Can anyone of you, fit 2 owners, submit first impressions?
I am mostly interested in how notifications are working, are they seamless of the phone brand (same set of features no matter of phone being Samsung or not)...
Second thing is battery ofc, for instance, can it last 4 days (GPS free), with notifications turned on, normal usage?
I Like the device, own first generation, but use it with open fit app, and I am missing mostly notifications part as it was intended when using with great fit manager...
THANKS...
UPDATE: There's great thread on this device already, that if I knew existed, I'd hardly started this one, but the location of it is questionable, as I am not sure if gf2 was ever advertised as s7e accessory...
Hi.
See review from user Pilz, here at XDA:
[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/accessories/review-gear-fit-2-t3396090/page5#post67341876[/URL]"
I have Samsung S6 Edge, smooth connection without problem, also with wireless Energy Sistem headphones. Battery life, 4 days only without using it By me it is between 2-3 days.
74Marek said:
Hi.
See review from user Pilz, here at XDA:
[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/accessories/review-gear-fit-2-t3396090/page5#post67341876[/URL]"
I have Samsung S6 Edge, smooth connection without problem, also with wireless Energy Sistem headphones. Battery life, 4 days only without using it By me it is between 2-3 days.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
2-3 days is good result for 200 mA battery
agent_monthy said:
2-3 days is good result for 200 mA battery
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not good, but satisfying By the way, charging is very comfortable with original charger. So, in technical, hardware side, I am satisfyied wit Gear Fit 2. Annoying is only buggy software.
Good, hopefully they implemented reply by template for both call and SMS notifications, find these options really useful...
But, 2 day battery is a deal breaker to me... We'll see...
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
djurkash said:
But, 2 day battery is a deal breaker to me... We'll see...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
After second charging i've got 18% (82% remains) for 15 hours of usage without training session.
pavelbor said:
After second charging i've got 18% (82% remains) for 15 hours of usage without training session.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, report here when you get some constant results..
djurkash said:
Ok, report here when you get some constant results..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
BTW, first charging (not sure, was it fully charged?) lasts 2 full days. Used hardly - few trail "trainings" (~1hr each) with GPS, few workout session (~1hr each), played with settings, listened music, tryed some watchfaces.
2 days max, not with brighteness on 10
after 6, almost 7 days of 'testing' up till today
djurkash said:
Can anyone of you, fit 2 owners, submit first impressions?
I am mostly interested in how notifications are working, are they seamless of the phone brand (same set of features no matter of phone being Samsung or not)...
Second thing is battery ofc, for instance, can it last 4 days (GPS free), with notifications turned on, normal usage?
I Like the device, own first generation, but use it with open fit app, and I am missing mostly notifications part as it was intended when using with great fit manager...
THANKS...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here's my quick and dirty review so far. My prior devices: Fitbit, Polar Loop, Garmin Vivosmart, Garmin VSHR, Microsoft Band 2
Hardware: Very nice design. Well put together (doesn't feel cheap), screen is gorgeous. Band is comfortable and I don't even realize I'm wearing it. Waterproofing is nice. Has magnetic charging and charges at 1.32%/min. One con is that they don't include a loop on the band to lock it in place - I've had it pop off while brushing my wrist against things. Heart rate is accurate enough for RHR calculations. Had to buy a loop (18mm size) for $5.
Software: Beta-like. Buggy. Calories aren't calculated correctly. There are some decent apps (caffeine and water) and the one's there do have good UI/GFX. Notifications are easy to read and work bidirectional (an issue I had with the MS Band 2, where reading it on the phone didn't sync the read status on the band, annoying). Stair tracking is finicky and prone to inaccuracies.
Battery Life: I just logged a test of 91% usage over 68hrs. No GPS & wifi off. Display brightness at 5. Bluetooth on w/ notifications. 1hr worth of workout w/heart rate monitoring. Sleep tracked. That puts it at about an estimate 76hr total time if I don't use power-save mode. That's worlds better than the 50hrs I got with my Band2.
Verdict: It's a great piece of hardware. But buy it only if you feel they'll get the software bugs ironed out and not just abandonware it. I haven't used the original GearFit, so I don't know if they kept working on that.
What I Hope They Add in Software:
+ User voice or feedback submit option.
+ Invert Rotate-On, for wearing it inside the wrist.
+ Weightlifting/Interval workout option on band.
+ Ability to configure power-save mode to automatically turn on. Right now it asks permission at around 10%. Maybe even allow the user to select what it does (ie: grayscale, dim screen, etc.)
+ Automatic goal scaling
+ Inactivity meter (a few bands have this, it's a nice feature).
+ Ability to temporarily go full brightness on screen with extra tap or click. I have mine set to 5, would love to be able to just double-tap it to boost it for when in daylight. I don't believe it has a light sensor.
I'd recommend buying it with a protection plan. I got mine for $175+$30 at BB for 2years no questions replacement. Only reason I did it is because these bands are often made to the cheapest pricing and prone to failure. In fact, I traded my MS Band 2 straight across for this (also paid $175+$30 for that) because I had gone through 4 of those in 6 months.
JUst got mine this morning...Super Comfortable, Display is Awesome...Notifications work great with my V10... I am hoping more apps get developed this time around.
I picked it up a week ago (release day, the 10th), but just returned it. I never return things, and I hated returning this.
My experiences:
GREAT:
-Easily the most comfortable fitting device I've ever had on my wrist, and with no clip, it doesn't scrape desks and laptop palm wrests, or is even noticeable as a lump on the wrist (complete opposite of my experience with my wife's Microsoft Band 2).
-Screen is incredible, indoors, and not bad outside
-Swipe navigation is smooth and responsive
-The display wake gesture was pretty solid and responsive
-The charger is awesome. Pulls device into place via magnet perfectly and works the same regardless of direction, the display shows time and charge, right side up both ways. Mount is stable and low-centered to sit on desk firmly, without being oversized or heavy. Charges extremely fast
-GPS was dead on each day of my 42 mile daily bike commute, in comparison to my Wahoo ELEMNT cycling computer's GPS
MEH-ISH:
-The notifications were good, but limited details which required I go to the phone often to know what it was about. I understand it's a band and not a full blown smartwatch, so not really complaining
-There wasn't much you could do with it as far as apps, but it's new and I'm sure that will change soon.
-The auto-sleep detection didn't work well for me. If I watched TV before bed, it would count it as sleep, and if I got up in the middle of the night to pee and let the dogs out, it would end the sleep session, sometimes ignoring me going back to bed, other times counting them as separate sleeps. If I went into S Health to manually edit it, it was extremely buggy, wouldn't save, would lose the data, ect. I gave up trying. Since there was no manual sleep start/stop like you can with exercise, you have to go with the auto-detect.
BATTERY:
I ran mostly default settings as far as alerts/notifications 24/7 heart rate, ect. My 42 mile daily commute (~2 hrs) I would manually start the cycling mode with GPS and heart rate (ebike, video of my commute) lol and from that, after 24 hours, it would be down to around half battery. Each morning I would have a cup of coffee at my desk and charge it (<20 minutes). I'm the kind of person that needs habits or I forget. So, even if the device lasted 5 days, I would prefer to stick it on the charger at the same time every day to top it off as a routine. Don't get me wrong, I'd love it if it lasted a week, or a month+, if I need to travel, but as long as it easily lasts a day, I can be good with that, considering the fast charging. The Microsoft band 2 takes 1hr+ from my experience.
NOPE:
-The stopper, for me, was the locked down data for exercise. Heart rate data couldn't be viewed in the 1 second format anywhere but in a very basic graph on the S Health app and on the device. It doesn't even carry to Google Fit. Even though there's Strava sharing, export options, ect, it ONLY allows GPS and time stamp data out. Even in developer mode of the phone and app, I could only see the 24 hour heart rate samples, and random samples during the activity, nothing even close to the 1 second data, though better than the Microsoft Band's 1 minute heart rate data. Since my S7 doesn't have root, I gave up trying to get at the data.
DISCOVERY:
-Having bought it from Best Buy, I exchanged it for the Vivoactive hr. HOWEVER, after exchanging it, I noticed a Samsung rep in the store so I went to him to say how much I loved the Gear Fit 2, but I HAD to have access to the data, so returned it. He said something like: "Very soon there's a Tizen update coming that will open that data up via an API for the major fitness platforms, including Strava, who is already set up to receive that data once we update".
-Well, crap, wish I had known that before. The Vivoactive hr display is HORRIBLE, I have the brightness cranked and a custom, bold, white watch face to help me try and see it in dim areas. In the sun it's fine, because it reflects the light to see the numbers, but in the dark it's extremely hard for me to see. Also, the notifications are more like annoyifications because they keep re-notifying even after being dismissed, randomly.
i saw a photo in hg notification. good enought for me
My thoughts so far
From a hardware perspective, I am a big fan. I find it to be very comfortable, the screen is gorgeous, and the whole thing is very responsive. I would like more battery - I am only getting a day out of mine so far, but that does involve about an hour of GPS from my bike commute along with an abnormal amount of use, as it is a new toy.
From a software perspective, it still needs work. I have not had it autodetect my workouts yet, and GPS occasionally fails to pick up a signal. Notifications in general are spotty. I will get most text messages on my wrist, but I can't get any alarm clock program to work. My main interface issue is that it is rather common for a swipe to be picked up as a press, especially if I start the swipe on the screen as opposed to off of the edge. I'm not enamored with any of the available watch faces, and I would like an always on mode.
Personally, I have no issues with S Health, but my fitness tracking was very fragmented beforehand. My previous tracker was a Basis Peak, which was locked into its own bubble anyway. So far, I am still doing double tracking of workouts with Endomondo, but once I am satisfied that the GPS will be more consistent (or that automatic tracking will work), I will drop that.
All in all, I am happy, but would like to see a few updates.
Can someone compare it vs. Fit1 (I mean owners of both devices), I.e. notifications, factory apps...
I'm still getting 2.5-3 days of battery life after cycling through it 2x now. I have 8% left after 70 hours of being on with GPS enabled; you can read my OP for more details on that, but I'm happy with it so far.
Pilz said:
I'm still getting 2.5-3 days of battery life after cycling through it 2x now. I have 8% left after 70 hours of being on with GPS enabled; you can read my OP for more details on that, but I'm happy with it so far.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Really great and thorough test, I've added to the op of this thread, hope you don't mind...
djurkash said:
Really great and thorough test, I've added to the op of this thread, hope you don't mind...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's fine with me; I also reviewed the original Gear Fit (I'm surprised the OP is still on the second page) if your curious to see how much it has changed. I managed to eek out 4 days of battery with the original if I recall correctly. I turned on power saving mode earlier today (about 5 hours ago) and it has really helped my battery last this last stretch before it dies. I just hit 72 hours (3 days) of solid usage and I still have 7% left thanks to power saving mode for the past few hours. I think anyone can manage 2-3 days of use if they follow the way I used the device, or any alternative that allows you to use the Gear Fit 2 without limiting it.
Original Gear Fit Review
Pilz said:
That's fine with me; I also reviewed the original Gear Fit (I'm surprised the OP is still on the second page) if your curious to see how much it has changed. I managed to eek out 4 days of battery with the original if I recall correctly. I turned on power saving mode earlier today (about 5 hours ago) and it has really helped my battery last this last stretch before it dies. I just hit 72 hours (3 days) of solid usage and I still have 7% left thanks to power saving mode for the past few hours. I think anyone can manage 2-3 days of use if they follow the way I used the device, or any alternative that allows you to use the Gear Fit 2 without limiting it.
Original Gear Fit Review
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, remember your review of gf1, now, as you've mentioned it..
I am using my third gf1 for 2 years now, tried some wear devices, sw3 was the closest to the level I wanted (although I am fan of Sony devices, damn, that thing was so ugly), fr230 was good from noon wear devices, but always coming back to gf1, and the simplicity and looks it had...
I will wait for few months to see how the development rolls out, and also whether will it be accessible in my country via official channels, but I am already pretty sure gf2 to be on my wrist eventually...
djurkash said:
Yes, remember your review of gf1, now, as you've mentioned it..
I am using my third gf1 for 2 years now, tried some wear devices, sw3 was the closest to the level I wanted (although I am fan of Sony devices, damn, that thing was so ugly), fr230 was good from noon wear devices, but always coming back to gf1, and the simplicity and looks it had...
I will wait for few months to see how the development rolls out, and also whether will it be accessible in my country via official channels, but I am already pretty sure gf2 to be on my wrist eventually...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is a huge improvement of the first generation GF even though I sold mine a while back. I read through my initial review of the GF, and wow has it changed! I tried a few Android Wear Watches. I'm enjoying the GF2 so far without any real issues which is a good sign. Let me know if you have any questions.
So I was thinking about getting the watch, but I saw this
https://www.neowin.net/news/review-...t-needs-to-hit-the-gym-for-some-massive-gains
It says basically the watch is not good for fitness as it doesn't sync data with apps like goofle fit or so. It says you can't even show your data on phone or similar.
Only sync with strava, but not all data
Has it changed since one year ago? Would you recommend the watch for someone who will use it almost exclusively to fitness? (Count calories, count gym series, runnings....). And obviously want to see it in the phone synchronised
I would also use it for google assistant, google keep, maps....but I haven't found about that...so thinking the watch it's quite useless because of software
Enviado desde mi ONEPLUS A5000 mediante Tapatalk
Javi22 said:
So I was thinking about getting the watch, but I saw this
https://www.neowin.net/news/review-...t-needs-to-hit-the-gym-for-some-massive-gains
It says basically the watch is not good for fitness as it doesn't sync data with apps like goofle fit or so. It says you can't even show your data on phone or similar.
Only sync with strava, but not all data
Has it changed since one year ago? Would you recommend the watch for someone who will use it almost exclusively to fitness? (Count calories, count gym series, runnings....). And obviously want to see it in the phone synchronised
I would also use it for google assistant, google keep, maps....but I haven't found about that...so thinking the watch it's quite useless because of software
Enviado desde mi ONEPLUS A5000 mediante Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll have a go answering your question
The Amazfit app has improved since last year, you can see data within the app e.g. step count, sleep quality (for what it's worth), heart rate etc... But that data is tied to the app since there is no web portal that you can access say on a PC.
The sync still remains with Strava only, I found that if you install the MiFit app from the Google Play Store you can sync the watch to that which can then export the data to Google Fit. Though I didn't really find the data in Google Fit to be all that great / useful for it to be worth my while having 3 different apps installed.
Another limitation I've found with the watch is that calorie count is not all day calories. It is some very odd "active" calorie count figure. That is to say, if you wear the watch and sit down all day doing nothing you will not see the calorie count figure increase as Fitbits or Garmin devices since Amazfit have not considered BMR in their calorie counting whatsoever.
If you start an activity or you walk all day your calorie count will increase. I guess you could treat the calorie figure as active calories...personally I was annoyed with it at first but realistically I don't count calorie intake, so why would I worry about calorie expenditure? I just use a watch face that doesn't show calories and forget about the usefulness of that metric.
My use case for the watch is primarily fitness based, always on screen and notifications. I'm happy with the always on screen and notifications. Fitness and general health leaves a lot to be desired though. In my experience the things I've noticed include:
* Sleep tracking is not great, it gets the times correct most nights, but I'm pretty much exclusively in light sleep mode. Maybe the watch is too sensitive or I trash around in my sleep, I don't know. I hardly look at this outside of seeing how many hours sleep I got.
* Calorie count not worth the hassle due to the above
* HR tracking is...well, I'm still not sure. Resting HR can have me a 50 bpm one minute, the next I'm at 90+ bpm while sitting at my desk. Other times it can go hours nailing a pretty good representation of HR as I'd expect. During exercise, don't expect weight training to be anywhere near accurate (this is true for most optical HR sensors), running workouts do have drops where I could be at 150 or 160bpm one second then <120bpm the next but the trend seems to be correct most times.
* GPS might not be as accurate as some other running watching, but does exactly what I want. I've not noticed any major drift or drop outs in GPS, just make sure to wait for the GPS lock before starting your activity.
With all that said it might sound like I dont like the watch. But I think even with these issues I'd buy it again. Mainly because it was cheap (compared to rival products), offers most day to day benefits i wanted (notifications, always on display, several days battery life), it also has GPS and exports to the exercise tool I use.
To try and make the fitness aspect a bit more appealing for me what I've started doing is running with a second hand vivofit 3 in my pocket reading HR from a strap and use the Amazfit for GPS. When I get home I've written a script to replace the Amazfit HR with the Garmin HR and upload that to Strava. Works well, allows me to keep Cadence, GPS info and get a more accurate HR reading. I could use this setup for weight training as well, but realistically I'll never be HR zone training during a weight workout so as long as the Amazfit can upload workout time to Strava I don't care about that data.
I open this post because I haven't been able to find any review or opinion about one of the functionalities that offers Stratos: Skiing.
Has anyone try it and can share his or her experiencie?
I am interested mainly if it is able to dismiss the skilifts automatically on Alpine ski.
I assume it can measure speed, hear rate, and the other normal variables that are shared with running.
Any experience?
As well I am interested to know if for long multi-day hiking trips the battery would resist with the GPS active? (like 12hours sport tracking?)
In general, it would be good to know the tracking difference between one sports mode or the others
Last weekend I just made a long hike and starting with full battery and with GPS on of course, it recorded all my 11 hours hike. At the end, the battery was at 12%
I have just returned from a 400+km hike where I used the Stratos constantly. With an average of 7h of hiking I got 3 full days of battery life: Bluetooth on, sleep tracking but obviously internal HR sensor off during activities and outside.
Tioz90 said:
I have just returned from a 400+km hike where I used the Stratos constantly. With an average of 7h of hiking I got 3 full days of battery life: Bluetooth on, sleep tracking but obviously internal HR sensor off during activities and outside.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What about the readings on altitude? Looks pretty inaccurate in the reviews and it's a very important metric when hiking.
Does anyone else have any feedback on the "Skiing" mode please? I am also interested in this mode, and whether it automatically detects travel on the ski lift. Thanks.
Stratos skiing mode
Just used my stratos for a couple of days skiing and am pretty disappointed in the results. Firstly the altitude readings are pretty inaccurate, out by more than 10% in some cases. Amizfit support responded with the following "The altitude error is greatly affected by the environment.
Due to environmental factors, the error may reach tens of meters or even hundreds of meters." So even though this is a metric that is important to skiing dosn't look like it can be improved.
Secondly, yes it looks like the watch does stop recording during lift travel and start again during a downhill run. This is what I noticed when I looked at my tracks. There was the odd lift travel that may have been a bit downhill that got recorded as a lap but most of the laps were actual runs. I even looked at my watch at the end of a run/lap and noticed that it recorded the downhill distance and descent for that lap. When I started riding the lift these results cleared and the watch was ready for the next run/lap. So this is were the good news stops. Even though I was under the impression that the watch was recording all this great individual lap information when I tried to see my results in the evening on my phone app most of my metrics were all combined into totals. For example total laps, total downhill km, total descent and total time. The only metrics listed per lap/run is max speed which is good and the time each lap ended, which is useless becuase it includeds lift waiting and riding time.
It is sad as I believe the watch has been designed and is capable of gathering detailed information but the phone apps inability to present this information totally ruins a potentialy good product. At the moment I would not recommend this watch for skiing. Go back to using your phone and any of several free ski tracking apps.
Many thanks for the detailed feedback. I used the Skiing mode on my Pace a few months ago and found it almost useless because it didn't detect travel on the skl iift and treated it as part of the ski run, thus totally ruining the data it collected.
So it meant I had to take my glove off to manually start and stop the Pace (since it doesn't have buttons like the Stratos), which of course means digging under the sleeve of your ski jacket and fleece, and then adjusting the clothes back. Doing this at the start and stop of every run is a big hassle when you're with a group of people. It's not worth it.
I don't think I checked the altitude accuracy, so I can't comment on that. I also couldn't work out how to use the 'lap' function. It treated every run I did as the first lap, even if it was a repeat run on the same slope.
Amazfit still doesn't seem to have any instructions for this mode.
Hi,
I have a sleeping disorder and like to see my sleeppaterns. Next to that I have a realy low heartrate in rest (sporters heart)
Used it on my Garmin (worked great), Fitbit (worked a bit) and know Stratos (not good..).
The reasons the Stratos doesn't work good for me is that it detects my "resting heartrate" as sleep.
So when I'm awake in bed with my 45-55 heartrate it thinks I sleep.
So the watch thinks I slept for example from 0:00 till 6.30 while in real i only slept from 2.00 till 5.30.
That realy is a big difference.
Is there a way to adjust the sleeping heartrate in the watch?
That's strange.. I am almost sure that watch doesn't use HR to monitor sleep, only the accelerometer and ambient light sensor... If you don't move in a dark place during the night (it only records sleep between sunset and sunrise) then it will record that you slept. Continuous HR can be activated, some say the help detecting when you start/stop sleeping, but I doubt it... The only benefit is getting your resting HR (it only records this if HR is on while sleeping).
lfom said:
That's strange.. I am almost sure that watch doesn't use HR to monitor sleep, only the accelerometer and ambient light sensor... If you don't move in a dark place during the night (it only records sleep between sunset and sunrise) then it will record that you slept. Continuous HR can be activated, some say the help detecting when you start/stop sleeping, but I doubt it... The only benefit is getting your resting HR (it only records this if HR is on while sleeping).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, but how is that sleep tracking? If I lie still I sleep according to the watch?
My Garmin and Fitbit used HR to messure is as far as I know...
Continues HR is enabled, I track my HR all the time.
Hello, I also think that it uses hr sensor to at least know if you are wearing the watch: I dont wear the watch while I sleep, and somehow it knows it doesn't has to track my sleep because there is no sleep activity tracked in the app. Also, I place it in the bedside table and sometimes while in the dark i've seen the sensor trying to scan my wrist during a short period of time (maybe 10 seconds, no more). Makes sense to me that it could also use HR from time to time during night not to just know if I'm wearing it but also to collect HR data and use it.
Try going to amazfit app
Tap on Me > account info > heart rate zone > use reserved heart rate
In there there's something to do with resting heart rate and many other stuff to change your rate zones..
I hope this help.
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
3ze said:
Hello, I also think that it uses hr sensor to at least know if you are wearing the watch: I dont wear the watch while I sleep, and somehow it knows it doesn't has to track my sleep because there is no sleep activity tracked in the app. Also, I place it in the bedside table and sometimes while in the dark i've seen the sensor trying to scan my wrist during a short period of time (maybe 10 seconds, no more). Makes sense to me that it could also use HR from time to time during night not to just know if I'm wearing it but also to collect HR data and use it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have never seen HR light on while I was in bed unless continuous HR was on... And for not detecting sleep while it's not being used it's easy: if it's horizontally and doesn't move then it's not being worn. A few times I left one of my watches on a table and they were tilted, and they registered a few hours of sleep... :silly:
I wish they would do an update and allow you to set a different time for sleep tracking. I work night shift and sleep during the day so my Stratos doesn't track my sleep because it's during the daytime hours.
hangdogdaddy38 said:
I wish they would do an update and allow you to set a different time for sleep tracking. I work night shift and sleep during the day so my Stratos doesn't track my sleep because it's during the daytime hours.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was surprised myself the other day as I went to sleep at 8am but according to my watch i didn't sleep at all. Also any nap during day are not recognised. I used to have Huawei Band 3 and it work flawless. Even if we had an option to manually start "sleep" so it knows we are about to sleep when we do fall asleep it will be taken into consideration.