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Hello All,
I was wondering how to improve the performance on games such as mc3, horn, and other high graphic games? I heard from someone that ics roms run games faster than gb , and that you also should overclock your device using an app called tegrak overclock. So my question is this: how well does our player run games, and if so how to make the games run smoother or better. Thanks!:laugh:
spartacus279 said:
Hello All,
I was wondering how to improve the performance on games such as mc3, horn, and other high graphic games? I heard from someone that ics roms run games faster than gb , and that you also should overclock your device using an app called tegrak overclock. So my question is this: how well does our player run games, and if so how to make the games run smoother or better. Thanks!:laugh:
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same cpu and gpu as sgs afaik. overclockable to 1.6 ghz stable
KOala888 said:
same cpu and gpu as sgs afaik. overclockable to 1.6 ghz stable
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How do you ovetclock to 1.6?
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spartacus279 said:
Hello All,
I was wondering how to improve the performance on games such as mc3, horn, and other high graphic games? I heard from someone that ics roms run games faster than gb , and that you also should overclock your device using an app called tegrak overclock. So my question is this: how well does our player run games, and if so how to make the games run smoother or better. Thanks!:laugh:
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(This thread should have been posted under Questions, just so you know.)
The Player 4 and 5 both use an SGX540 running at 200MHz. I have both NOVA 3 and MC3 on my Player, and it seems to me that Gameloft has definitely not optimized their Android games as well as they could (example: the 4th generation iPod Touch has a weaker SGX530 GPU and less RAM, yet MC3 runs better).
That said, I have seen people overclock the SGX540 in our Exynos 3110 to anywhere from 210-250MHz. If someone can implement this to a Player kernel, we should be able to do the same, and probably reduce some lag.
As far as Android version- from what I understand (and this may not be correct), 4.0 uses more RAM, so some games might work better on 2.3. I have also seen many reports that Gameloft's games do not work well on 4.0 (more lag and/or crashing), but they may have been updated to fix these issues.
I'm running Android 4.0. I've got an overclock to 1.2GHz. I have set the maximum number of background tasks to only allow 2. This has pretty much completely fixed any lag i've had whatsoever. Even on 2.3! I have MC3 and Nova 3 and they both run fine with the odd jitter every 10 mins but you can expect that with any device. I also bought Gangster Rio but I haven't tried that on Remics UX yet. It ran terrible last time Si used it on ICS Crumble but I didn't have the Background process limit set then so i'll get it and i'll see how it gose. But if you've got ICS Seriously, you will be amazed at what difference it makes. I just hope Modern Combat 4: Zero Hour will run as smoothly!
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(This thread should have been posted under Questions, just so you know.)
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I think this is part of the problem; our forum doesn't have a dedicated Q/A section like most do. For all you people uncertain; ALL QUESTIONS GO IN GENERAL. Never ever post a question in development.
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before the world explodes, I have a quick q, could we make a q& a section? Or ask for it, for the very least? or rename the general section?
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Karim.younus said:
I just hope Modern Combat 4: Zero Hour will run as smoothly!
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I highly doubt it will run at all, unless Gameloft has a version with highly toned-down graphics. NOVA 3 with all effects and graphic elements set to high is nearly unplayable (though it looks incredible), and we know MC4 is more graphically advanced than N3. Even if these Players had a better GPU, though, RAM would still be an issue, and Gameloft might even skip on a PowerVR-optimized MC4 anyways.
I am making custom kernel atm, show me an example of overclocked gpu that we have. Afaik the were tryind to do so with i9000 without success
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I highly doubt it will run at all, unless Gameloft has a version with highly toned-down graphics. NOVA 3 with all effects and graphic elements set to high is nearly unplayable (though it looks incredible), and we know MC4 is more graphically advanced than N3. Even if these Players had a better GPU, though, RAM would still be an issue, and Gameloft might even skip on a PowerVR-optimized MC4 anyways.
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Nova 3 is much more playable for me on GP5 then on Nexus 7 ,you cant set video options so gamelooft set it for you in some awful retarded way and nova 3 lags heavy on mu nexys 7 even its quad core with tegra 3 ,on sg5 graphics is worster but plays smoth.
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DZonikg said:
Nova 3 is much more playable for me on GP5 then on Nexus 7 ,you cant set video options so gamelooft set it for you in some awful retarded way and nova 3 lags heavy on mu nexys 7 even its quad core with tegra 3 ,on sg5 graphics is worster but plays smoth.
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If you look around, you'll see that just about anyone with a Tegra 3 device and a Gameloft game has the same problem. Either the Tegra 3 has a weak GPU, Gameloft fails at optimizing their games, or both.
If you set the graphics of NOVA 3 on the Player to the same level as on the N7, the game becomes unplayable, even though it has to push a much lower resolution. Tying that back in on-topic, as MC4 has more advanced graphics than NOVA 3, it is probably not going to work with the Players.
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If you look around, you'll see that just about anyone with a Tegra 3 device and a Gameloft game has the same problem. Either the Tegra 3 has a weak GPU, Gameloft fails at optimizing their games, or both.
If you set the graphics of NOVA 3 on the Player to the same level as on the N7, the game becomes unplayable, even though it has to push a much lower resolution. Tying that back in on-topic, as MC4 has more advanced graphics than NOVA 3, it is probably not going to work with the Players.
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tegra 3 has very good gpy and with custom kernel you can overclock gpy to blow every other curent android device away..but that gamelooft are so ret..is it so hard to add video options like in every pc game or gta for android ..that is one day job..
DZonikg said:
tegra 3 has very good gpy and with custom kernel you can overclock gpy to blow every other curent android device away..but that gamelooft are so ret..is it so hard to add video options like in every pc game or gta for android ..that is one day job..
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A one day job? One day to re-do / re-render ALL the textures and models ? Also some games DO have options , like Max Payne.
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I highly doubt it will run at all, unless Gameloft has a version with highly toned-down graphics. NOVA 3 with all effects and graphic elements set to high is nearly unplayable (though it looks incredible), and we know MC4 is more graphically advanced than N3. Even if these Players had a better GPU, though, RAM would still be an issue, and Gameloft might even skip on a PowerVR-optimized MC4 anyways.
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I can run Nova with no lag. The thing that was causing the problem I think was the RAM until o set it to 2 background tasks. And also SWAP file support could be another thing to work on to gives more than a 1GB or RAM.
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A one day job? One day to re-do / re-render ALL the textures and models ? Also some games DO have options , like Max Payne.
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Its not one day..its one HOUR job..the game has allready options because every game engine has video option..but with a gamelooft you have to extract option file from ogg file then change on off what you thing ..save and then recreate ogg file again..And only game that gice options is rock star ..they are only developers with brains in android world for now..and off course there is no need to recreate textures..its one command in opengl.
Karim.younus said:
I can run Nova with no lag. The thing that was causing the problem I think was the RAM until o set it to 2 background tasks. And also SWAP file support could be another thing to work on to gives more than a 1GB or RAM.
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I can run it with no lag, too. NOVA 3 for our Players has all the graphical effects disabled, but when they are turned on, the lag is unbearable, which is what I was talking about (I'll make a video showing this). Tying that back in, since MC4 has these graphical effects by default plus a new graphics engine, either the game will not work at all (read: to laggy to play), or Gameloft will greatly downscale the graphics for us (unlikely).
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I can run it with no lag, too. NOVA 3 for our Players has all the graphical effects disabled, but when they are turned on, the lag is unbearable, which is what I was talking about (I'll make a video showing this). Tying that back in, since MC4 has these graphical effects by default plus a new graphics engine, either the game will not work at all (read: to laggy to play), or Gameloft will greatly downscale the graphics for us (unlikely).
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Hmmm. Never knew that. How can I enable the better graphics cause I want to see what it looks like.
Karim.younus said:
Hmmm. Never knew that. How can I enable the better graphics cause I want to see what it looks like.
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Install Chainfire3d from the Market. Open it, install the driver, reboot, and it should be good to go.
However, a few warnings. Campaign will not work, at all. The only way for the game to load and be somewhat playable is to do a local WiFi multiplayer match with just yourself. I also recommend letting it sit for a minute or so after the map (pick a relatively small one) has loaded.
So no campaign? Oh well I'm completely stuck on a mission anyway ha ha.
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So no campaign? Oh well I'm completely stuck on a mission anyway ha ha.
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Well, with the full graphics, the game lags too much when doing anything (except for walking around) for the campaign to be playable.
So San Andreas is out in December and I was wondering if our beloved S2 can play it. It's kind of my all-time favourite game and i was hoping i could refresh some old memories. With 1 gb of RAM and a decent processor it should just about make the cut...Can anyone help me with any tricks, maybe some kernels to flash or overclocking which can cause a considerable boost in gaming performance or will siyah or dorimanx not have much of an effect...I know that benchmarks are not always conclusive but I can just about manage to get barely playable framerates on dead trigger 2 high graphics with stock cm 10.2 while i could play it only on low graphics on the stock ROM...This is the first game in which i have experienced any performance issues while modern combat 4, gta 3 and vice city, nfs most wanted, pvz 2, angry birds, fifa 14 etc run like a dream...Any tips for squeezing that last bit of performance and battery life would be greatly appreciated...
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So San Andreas is out in December and I was wondering if our beloved S2 can play it. It's kind of my all-time favourite game and i was hoping i could refresh some old memories. With 1 gb of RAM and a decent processor it should just about make the cut...Can anyone help me with any tricks, maybe some kernels to flash or overclocking which can cause a considerable boost in gaming performance or will siyah or dorimanx not have much of an effect...I know that benchmarks are not always conclusive but I can just about manage to get barely playable framerates on dead trigger 2 high graphics with stock cm 10.2 while i could play it only on low graphics on the stock ROM...This is the first game in which i have experienced any performance issues while modern combat 4, gta 3 and vice city, nfs most wanted, pvz 2, angry birds, fifa 14 etc run like a dream...Any tips for squeezing that last bit of performance and battery life would be greatly appreciated...
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i think you should use PurePerformances X mod(see the thread there is some point says "- Allows you to play ported games without lags"its awesome.
here is the link to the mod:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360985
P.S:i like GTA san andreas very much.
Well i flashed it and things are definitely faster. Dead trigger 2 is playable at high graphics now while battery life hasnt taken a hit. Thanks a lot
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Link to play store gta san andreas?
Don't see it at rockstar inc.
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Well i flashed it and things are definitely faster. Dead trigger 2 is playable at high graphics now while battery life hasnt taken a hit. Thanks a lot
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can you give me fps for dead trigger 2? and what rom plus kernel?
btw san andreas have • Enhanced for the iPhone 5 series and iPad 4th Gen and above with dynamic detailed shadows and real-time environmental reflections.
now we look to other game that do kind of this enhancement too, ravensword shadowland. on our device shadowland run on full effect like 4s/ipad 2 but without the enhancement for iphone 5/ipad 4.
if your curious what the enhancement look like just see ravensword shadowland on iphone 5/ipad 4 on youtube. On the first five minutes of game play, you will meet a big troll. Now on S2 the troll body texture is the same as ipad2/4s while on iphone 5 it have better texture.
It depend on the setting itself, maybe on android full effect setting only have same effect like 4s/ipad 2 or maybe can run on high setting but without shadow.
btw sky gambler air supremacy on our device does'nt have lens flare like ipad 2/4s :crying:
GreekBlood said:
Link to play store gta san andreas?
Don't see it at rockstar inc.
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check this out:http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/11/gta-san-andreas-ios-out-now/;)
LYandroid said:
check this out:http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/11/gta-san-andreas-ios-out-now/;)
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wheeee, amazing!
Our phone will run this since vc runs on ultra without lag.
I hope this game will be running on our s2 at high graphics without lag
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Dude, every one,hear this,GTA san andreas is just released for android its now on google play.
EDIT:now its working for most devices after 1.03 update(even Samsung S3), it should work now on S2 since the GPU is the same as S3.
Sorry for bad enghlish.
Here is a link for the game: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rockstargames.gtasa&hl=en
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perfomance review pls at max setting
GTA SA works flawlessly with no lags on high settings on my GS2 running Stock Official 4.1.2. No Root, No Custom Kernel
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Seriously, the graphics are down scaled a lot compared to pc...
(look pics at google play)
GreekBlood said:
Seriously, the graphics are down scaled a lot compared to pc...
(look pics at google play)
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have you see the game on other device? especially on non mali gpu? the screenshot is same on google play and the game itself on galaxy note 3 with max setting (from some site) from my perspective the graphic have ugly and flat texture. I see some people share ss on adreno devices and the texture is better compared on note 3/google play. I believe the mali version have toned down texture and polygon. the character itself look ugly compared to ps2 version.
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have you see the game on other device? especially on non mali gpu? the screenshot is same on google play and the game itself on galaxy note 3 with max setting (from some site) from my perspective the graphic have ugly and flat texture. I see some people share ss on adreno devices and the texture is better compared on note 3/google play. I believe the mali version have toned down texture and polygon. the character itself look ugly compared to ps2 version.
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ps2 is vga, on pc you can get to hdmi (much better quality)
But my question is,
Is the whole story ported? All the missions and side missions?
GreekBlood said:
ps2 is vga, on pc you can get to hdmi (much better quality)
But my question is,
Is the whole story ported? All the missions and side missions?
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i m not talking about the resolution, oh well just forget it...
i haven't tested it yet, still waiting for stable version
Yes everything is ported, I'm in San Fierro now . And 1.0.3 is the stable version. R* have confirmed this.
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Well, generaly, even if such games work on my SGSII, my device burns as hell after 15mins of gameplay..
(I have to keep it plugged in for battery would drain in 10min otherwise x) )
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run fine on neatrom lite debloated 5.4.2 + pure perfomance mod
the game seems lock on 24 - 28 fps no matter setting used ,even when frame limiter off hover around 28-31 fps, remind's me of ps2 version
run fine on max setting except shadow and car reflection on low,
little slow down with crowded traffic if use detailed car reflection and med shadow
stutter when shadow and car reflection on max
amdultra said:
run fine on neatrom lite debloated 5.4.2 + pure perfomance mod
the game seems lock on 24 - 28 fps no matter setting used ,even when frame limiter off hover around 28-31 fps, remind's me of ps2 version
run fine on max setting except shadow and car reflection on low,
little slow down with crowded traffic if use detailed car reflection and med shadow
stutter when shadow and car reflection on max
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that sounds good:good:,does the game performing well when the phone is connected to MHL/hdmi adapter on TV??????
LYandroid said:
that sounds good:good:,does the game performing well when the phone is connected to MHL/hdmi adapter on TV??????
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i dont know , i dont have mhl/hdmi adapter maybe you can buy me one? i will test it :laugh:
btw i notice no matter low res,graphics or draw distance , the game will stutter if use car detail more than low and shadow more than classic. If seems the mali doesn't have enough power to run those two(vertex bound). If you want to play this game smoothly on all max, you need min a device with adreno 305 gpu with max res at 720p. so just turn off shadow and car detail if you want to play this game smoothly. I use classic shadow and low car detail and the effect look like PS2 version , it's okay btw for me
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GTA SA works flawlessly with no lags on high settings on my GS2 running Stock Official 4.1.2. No Root, No Custom Kernel
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what setting you use for shadow and car detail? and how many FPS you get? (try with FPS meter)
Hey guys, just wondering if any of you have tried running PPSSPP on your z2 yet and if you were having any problems.
I can't seem to get Tekken 6 running at a playable speed (it runs at an average of 65% speed ingame). I can get it to sort of run fine when I turn on 7-8 frameskip, but then of course the framerate suffers to compensate...
I've tried many settings and have made sure that power saving features are deactivated... Could this be z2 specific or am I just missing something (I'm really hoping it's the latter)?
Cheers
P.S. (P?) Fwiw, I can get 3D Android games running fine (e.g. Spiderman 2, Prince of Persia Snf)
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Hey guys, just wondering if any of you have tried running PPSSPP on your z2 yet and if you were having any problems.
I can't seem to get Tekken 6 running at a playable speed (it runs at an average of 65% speed ingame). I can get it to sort of run fine when I turn on 7-8 frameskip, but then of course the framerate suffers to compensate...
I've tried many settings and have made sure that power saving features are deactivated... Could this be z2 specific or am I just missing something (I'm really hoping it's the latter)?
Cheers
P.S. (P?) Fwiw, I can get 3D Android games running fine (e.g. Spiderman 2, Prince of Persia Snf)
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Ppsspp isn't that optimised yet... You're mistaking emulation with native Android code when talking about running the Android games.
Basically, ppsspp is taking psp game data and translating it to Android code to make it run... Every single bit of data.
This requires huuuuge cpu usage and is the reason it's so slow.
Tl : dr: no... It isn't yet possible to run most psp games at full speed, especially not extensive 3d ones like tekken.
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Thanks for the reply. I totally understand emulators will never be 100% compatible and perfect, even on high end computers just as lossy compression will never be a prefect representation of the original product.
But after some internetting, I found that PPSSPP seems to be able to run at least Tekken 6 at what seems to be close enough to original speed on most mid-high range phones. Examples:
Tkn6 on SGS3: http://youtu.be/t4lw0OexO3Y
Crisis Core FF7 on latest HTC M8 (which has pretty much the same processor as the z2): http://youtu.be/8mH1Z2cebpY
And many more videos of phones running Tkn6 just fine: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=y...Z04H4BQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=348&bih=409&dpr=3
TL;DR: PPSSPP seems to run Tekken 6 and graphically similar games fine on most phones, even those with inferior as well as similar specs to ze Z2, yet I can't seem to replicate anything close to the same speed let alone the same. :/
I bet there's just a setting that I stupidly forgot to change somewhere... Might try downloading Crisis Core and see how that goes.
EDIT: Hmm actually it seems Crisis Core runs fine. Guess it still could be the new CPU/GPU.
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Wow... That s3 video of tekken6... I'm amazed.
Did you try replicating his settings shown at the beginning?
If not it could simply be that it isn't ready to use our phones full power yet and just got to wait for a few updates.
Or something somewhere is bogging the cpu down
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Wow... That s3 video of tekken6... I'm amazed.
Did you try replicating his settings shown at the beginning?
If not it could simply be that it isn't ready to use our phones full power yet and just got to wait for a few updates.
Or something somewhere is bogging the cpu down
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Hi, I'm a PPSSPP developer and I'd just like to say that Tekken 6 is one of the hardest PSP games to emulate along with God of War.
You definitely need to have the latest version of PPSSPP from the download page, ppsspp.org/download and not just the one on Play Store. You also need to make sure you have the settings that this person was using in his video. Turn on all those speed hacks and make sure you're not turning on extra graphical effects.
Many of those settings aren't enabled by default like using multi-threading, disabling fog,.. They make a huge difference.
Then it will run at full speed.
Tekken 5 runs much faster by the way. You will be able to run it full speed without any speed hacks and will even be able to run it in Full HD with large textures.
Hi, none of the multiple combination of settings helps me to run this game, Tony Hawk's Underground 2 Remix on Xperia Z2 ppsspp gold 1.0.1
What should I do?
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Today's I play nfs but the game Running very poor graphics
Any one known how to increased graphics Games
Performance?
vaibhav1 said:
Today's I play nfs but the game Running very poor graphics
Any one known how to increased graphics Games
Performance?
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Go to Developer Options and enable High Performance mode.
PS: battery life will suffer and phone may get hot
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Today's I play nfs but the game Running very poor graphics
Any one known how to increased graphics Games
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This is the best the device can do. Remember it is run by more than two year old SD400 processor, and just 2200mah battery. This phone is heavily optimised for smooth operations of a very average user. It will not play power hungry games properly. If gaming was your forte, you should have looked elsewhere. Sorry.
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This is the best the device can do. Remember it is run by more than two year old SD400 processor, and just 2200mah battery. This phone is heavily optimised for smooth operations of a very average user. It will not play power hungry games properly. If gaming was your forte, you should have looked elsewhere. Sorry.
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Thanks but my problem solve
In development mode a high cpu usage option found after enable high usage all games are running without any issues I play bully in full HD without any issues and smooth..
vaibhav1 said:
Thanks but my problem solve
In development mode a high cpu usage option found after enable high usage all games are running without any issues I play bully in full HD without any issues and smooth..
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Oh that's great. However I feel you will end up pushing the device which will result in heating and battery drain.
Btw, would you recommend buying this device? I am in the market to buy a new phone. I like HTC phones. Currently using HTC One M8 Eye as my secondary phone. I need to buy a 4G phone for primary use. I am kind of between heavy user and light user. I don't play games. I thought of buying this phone cuz it looks stylish and the prices seem to have come down. I can fetch this in india for INR8300 (USD 125). My budget is under USD150.
According to some Youtube videos, Mi A3 was performing poorly with gaming, as its firmware was supposedly unoptimised and full of bugs. One Youtube reviewer claimed that (I didn't bookmark the video so can't post the link) Mi A3 4/64 version was struggling to run PUBG even with Balanced setting (second from lowest), while Redmi Note 8, which has same chipset ran PUBG with Medium setting (3rd from lowest) quite well.
Now that I am planning to buy this phone, I wonder, if bugfix and optimisation updates have resolved the issues that this phone supposedly have.
In a nutshell my question is, how well can you play games on this phone right now?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a3/themes/pubg-graphics-hd-hdr-enable-mi-a3-t3967602
PUBG runs quite well on HD settings with extreme FPS. However, I had to use GFX tools to unlock the settings. I'm on stock rom with no root.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a3/themes/pubg-graphics-hd-hdr-enable-mi-a3-t3967602
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Wow, HDR is available? How does it perform?
hzkh2000 said:
PUBG runs quite well on HD settings with extreme FPS. However, I had to use GFX tools to unlock the settings. I'm on stock rom with no root.
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HD setting is not available by default?
How does it perform this way: HDR graphics, Extreme FPS, Realistic mode, Anti Aliasing ON?
yesssss because from the company the SD 665 was underclocked.....therefore gaming struggles....but if we push the processor ......waaooo what a performance man...pubg play smoothly at 60fps?.....Zeroo graphically lag
hamidU34 said:
yesssss because from the company the SD 665 was underclocked.....therefore gaming struggles....but if we push the processor ......waaooo what a performance man...pubg play smoothly at 60fps.....Zeroo graphically lag
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Sorry if this question sounds noob-y, but how do you measure FPS on Android?
hamidU34 said:
but if we push the processor ......waaooo what a performance man...pubg play smoothly at 60fps.....Zeroo graphically lag
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Push the processor how? Root apps? Custom ROM/Kernel?