Wonder why att has their own specific version of cam plus (CBG-720). Hope it's just a super-special at&t logo, not something stupid (like restricting device from working on other g5 models)
http://www.lg.com/us/lg-friends/lg-CBG-720.AATTSV-cam-plus
Verizon/sprint/tmobile/us cellular share same model (CBG-700)
http://www.lg.com/us/lg-friends/lg-CBG-700.AVRZSV-cam-plus
Modules are whitelisted on phones - possible for generic module not to work on att's lg g5
(B&O module imported from Europe will not work on USA models)
Hello, found this out the hard way I have the ATT G5 H820 and bought the T-mobile version of the cam plus. It will not even power on after installing the module. Will be returning for correct version.
That makes no sense to me...Why would you, as a company, make carrier versions of hardware accessories? Is there any carrier branding on the CamPlus?
raynan said:
That makes no sense to me...Why would you, as a company, make carrier versions of hardware accessories? Is there any carrier branding on the CamPlus?
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being consumer-friendly is not a trait shared by some carriers/manufacturers
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Hello, found this out the hard way I have the ATT G5 H820 and bought the T-mobile version of the cam plus. It will not even power on after installing the module. Will be returning for correct version.
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when you get an AT&T version, bring it to a t-mobile store and try it on a tmobile display phone.....
my guess is that it won't work either
There are time when a carrier request the manufacturer to make parts or accessories for their branded product only by inserting a simply code only phone with the same code that can recognized it.
This is probably the case.
these request usually will cost alot for the companies like At&t to pay LG.
It's stupid. I bought the wrong one too not even knowing there were different models of the same thing. Bunk.
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Well, so far.. THis been a year that this was discussed. I bought a camera module for my phone without knowing about the difference between At&T and other ones... Now I got a brand new Cam module that doesn`t work in my AT&T LG G5...
Do you guys know if it is possibile to bypass that by software? Or install a different firmware on the phone that will allow me to use this module?>
Thanks in advance
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Hey,
I am thinking of buying this phone, but I want to know whats the difference between the AT&T version and the international version or UK version?
There are so many versions, I want to know what is the difference and which one is the best one to buy?
Please let me know as I am confused.
Thanks.
UK version is the same as the international version.
The at&t version is the same as the international version but with 4 buttons rather than 3 on the international version.
The tmobile USA version is totally different soc and almost a totally different phone.
Sprint sgs2 is also different as it has a cdma radio.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
I guess I am going to get the Internation version/UK, good decision?
With the ISGS2 you get:
- No carrier-added bloatware
- Unrestricted tethering
- Updates directly from Samsung
- No carrier mandated s/w & h/w changes
- Two year warranty if bought in the UK or from Expansys-USA
- You can use the data for non-Smartphones plan and get fake-4G for $10 a month
With the ASGS2 you get:
- Insurance and warranty support from AT&T
- Hobbled tethering
- NFC (but nothing to do with it)
- Four capacitive buttons vs. the Samsung multi-function hardware home key
- Screen display mode has been removed
- Dive (phone tracking) has been removed
- No FM radio
- Dependency on AT&T for updates if you don't root and they've been known to suck
If you're buying the phone outright they're almost the same price now. The only reason to get one from AT&T is if you're concerned about insurance and/or warranty service. If the ISGS2 breaks you'll be without for a few weeks while it's repaired overseas.
I wont be using the phone in USA, I will be using it in Canada. So I guess International version is better?
I dont need NFC, and looks like AT&T removed alot of features/softwares and made the phone limited....?
Can someone tell me is this SGS2 exact same as International version: http://www.bell.ca/shopping/Samsung...MOB_shophmpg_BAN_GalaxySII_mass_071911_TM_ALL ?
Thanks.
awaisuk said:
I wont be using the phone in USA, I will be using it in Canada. So I guess International version is better?
I dont need NFC, and looks like AT&T removed alot of features/softwares and made the phone limited....?
Can someone tell me is this SGS2 exact same as International version: http://www.bell.ca/shopping/Samsung...MOB_shophmpg_BAN_GalaxySII_mass_071911_TM_ALL ?
Thanks.
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Any carrier phone is going to have modifications made to it by the carrier. Although, the Canadian carriers don't seem to molest them as much as the U.S. carriers. A phone purchased from a carrier is locked to that carrier. Some provide unlock codes for phones purchased outright, others don't. You can also get an unlock code from an online service - do a search. I don't know if Bell provides warranty support for phones purchased from them and used on other carriers. It's something you should investigate.
nexus prime is coming in a couple of days from now
I am from Norway and got my Gear S as a gift at the Samsung Developer Conference. It was locked to AT&T. I unlocked mine using cellunlocker.net. I received the network lock code less than an hour after submitting the order and it worked like a charm.
However, here in Norway we have GSM 900/1800 and the AT&T device is only GSM 850/1900 from what I can find on the net. Which matches my end result of not being able to connect to my network even after unlocking.
I should probably have thought of this before spending 29USD on an unlock code, but anything less than Quad-band on a phone just seems so '90s. As I do not have a compatible Samsung Phone either, the device is pretty much useless for me without GSM. I have Sony Z1 Compact (great), iPhone 5s (meh), Lumia 920 and 1020 (great), so buying a new phone is not an option at the moment.
Is the GSM-bands controlled by firmware or are there hardware differences between the US and European versions?
Does anybody know if it could be possible to load a European FW and get GSM 900/1800?
I'm fairly sure that's hardware controlled. Sorry
I also wish these were quadband.
You could try to sell yours on Ebay.com (I see they are currently going above suggested retail price), and buy one in Europe. They are, however, a bit more expensive there, EURO 390 in Germany including tax, for instance, but they also don't have SIM lock there.
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I am from Norway and got my Gear S as a gift at the Samsung Developer Conference. It was locked to AT&T. I unlocked mine using cellunlocker.net. I received the network lock code less than an hour after submitting the order and it worked like a charm.
However, here in Norway we have GSM 900/1800 and the AT&T device is only GSM 850/1900 from what I can find on the net. Which matches my end result of not being able to connect to my network even after unlocking.
I should probably have thought of this before spending 29USD on an unlock code, but anything less than Quad-band on a phone just seems so '90s. As I do not have a compatible Samsung Phone either, the device is pretty much useless for me without GSM. I have Sony Z1 Compact (great), iPhone 5s (meh), Lumia 920 and 1020 (great), so buying a new phone is not an option at the moment.
Is the GSM-bands controlled by firmware or are there hardware differences between the US and European versions?
Does anybody know if it could be possible to load a European FW and get GSM 900/1800?
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Have you tried contacting your local Samsung Developers on Google+? Samsung Developers US are very responsive on there.
I can't believe they didn't think about that!
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Have you tried contacting your local Samsung Developers on Google+? Samsung Developers US are very responsive on there.
I can't believe they didn't think about that!
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Yes, but no luck. Says there are differences in the hardware and that it cannot be changed in software.
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Yes, but no luck. Says there are differences in the hardware and that it cannot be changed in software.
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I mean contact them to find out if they can replace it with one that actually works where you live.
hey guys i am officially done with samsung after a complete circus ride of an s6. would like to buy a g5 but there are so many flippin variants i don't know what to buy. i'm currently on at&t, and i know they are all against unlocking the boot loader, so which do i get? i saw that the european g5 is the only one to get twrp? i found an H860n on ebay for $561. is this the same variant? thanks in advance.
European variant is H850.
I might get a European version myself. It costs the same if I were to buy it outright in Canada. The only thing I have to verify is the frequencies.
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i found an H860n on ebay for $561. is this the same variant? thanks in advance.
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No IT Has to be a H850 from Europe.
H860 is a dualsim LG g5.
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No IT Has to be a H850 from Europe.
H860 is a dualsim LG g5.
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sooooo all i'm seeing is h850 is a tmobile? is that the same thing? not seeing anything that specifically says european version.
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sooooo all i'm seeing is h850 is a tmobile? is that the same thing? not seeing anything that specifically says european version.
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You have to be sure that the Phone Comes from a European country.
And like mohsinkhan35 mentioned you schuld check the frequencies
Edit: in a Lot of countrys tmobile is a Network Carrier.
I don think that Helps.
Maybe ask the selber.
Amazon just started selling the RS988 model that is supposedly fully unlocked and supports all the US carrier frequency bands. I just ordered one today - $649.99 + tax, free same day delivery (in some areas - I'm in LA).
http://amzn.to/206SH6F
When I get it, I'll let you know if it is actually fully unlocked.
BestBuy also has fully unlocked G5s.
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sooooo all i'm seeing is h850 is a tmobile? is that the same thing? not seeing anything that specifically says european version.
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Clove is where I bought mine... Very reputable seller out of the UK. Myself and some other people on the forums bought their H850 from clove. Got mine via DHL from the UK to Colorado in 2 days!
Verified H850 unlocked, unbranded, and made for UK but listed as EU open. Have had ZERO issues that others report.
Everytime I look at the lg g5 site listing the price goes down.
If u want guaranteed root and twrp go with H850 EU open variant. Do not buy from eBay! Go with Clove or AmazonUK.
Also H850 supports all the band's you'll need unless u decide to join CDMA network. DO not get RS988 , if history has shown us anything about LG, it tells us that variant will only ever be carrier unlocked.
Clove link:
https://m.clove.co.uk/lg-g5
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hey guys i am officially done with samsung after a complete circus ride of an s6. would like to buy a g5 but there are so many flippin variants i don't know what to buy. i'm currently on at&t, and i know they are all against unlocking the boot loader, so which do i get? i saw that the european g5 is the only one to get twrp? i found an H860n on ebay for $561. is this the same variant? thanks in advance.
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Just a PSA if you get the rs988 do not change or update your imei. Att does not recognize the device in any way and you would be stuck with hspa+ just was on the phone with them had to use my old imei.
Thanks for the clove link. How long does shipping take? Kinda wanting to get one asap.
I am really excited about the new V30, I had 3 LG phones before, Optimus G, G3 and G4 now which is BL locked because it is the israeli Variant H815L, which means I am stuck with the stock firmware
is it going to be the same with the V30? I really want to be able to open the BL after 2 years of use
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I am really excited about the new V30, I had 3 LG phones before, Optimus G, G3 and G4 now which is BL locked because it is the israeli Variant H815L, which means I am stuck with the stock firmware
is it going to be the same with the V30? I really want to be able to open the BL after 2 years of use
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Wait for the carrier unlocked versions European or U.S.) which will be eligible for official bootloader unlock.
See this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3665927
I believe most LG flagships Single SIM International version will be definitely bootloader unlocked and of course root. example for the LG G6 the model is LG H870, for the LG V30 , it should be LG H930! If my country ships an LG V30 with impossible bootloader unlocked (could be a dual SIM LG flagship like the LG H930DS ) I'll instead buy LG H930 from Online (EBay or Amazon)!
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I believe most LG flagships Single SIM International version will be definitely bootloader unlocked and of course root. example for the LG G6 the model is LG H870, for the LG V30 , it should be LG H930! If my country ships an LG V30 with impossible bootloader unlocked (could be a dual SIM LG flagship like the LG H930DS ) I'll instead buy LG H930 from Online (EBay or Amazon)!
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Yes, H930 (with no other characters) is the unlocked version for Europe.
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
The problem is AFTER the U.S. and European LG G6 unlocked carrier versions were released, LG waited ANOTHER SIX WEEKS to put them on the official bootloader unlock list. I hope they don't wait that long for the LG V30. Otherwise would be end of December before we could unlock bootloader and root the carrier unlocked versions.
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Yes, H930 (with no other characters) is the unlocked version for Europe.
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30-model-number-differences/
The problem is AFTER the U.S. and European LG G6 unlocked carrier versions were released, LG waited ANOTHER SIX WEEKS to put them on the official bootloader unlock list. I hope they don't wait that long for the LG V30. Otherwise would be end of December before we could unlock bootloader and root the carrier unlocked versions.
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That six week delay, coupled with the wait for the darn unlocked version just to be released, is the disappointed point for me.
I just will not buy an Android based device in which I can't root.
I hate missing all the carrier costs savings (BOGO) and free gifts from ordering from T-Mobile, but these locked bootloader's for $800 devices is just ridiculous.
I'll get back to the V30 come December I guess.
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That six week delay, coupled with the wait for the darn unlocked version just to be released, is the disappointed point for me.
I just will not buy an Android based device in which I can't root.
I hate missing all the carrier costs savings (BOGO) and free gifts from ordering from T-Mobile, but these locked bootloader's for $800 devices is just ridiculous.
I'll get back to the V30 come December I guess.
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I agree. I love the pre-order stuff, but TBH, this one isn't giving much. I don't use vr headsets. I'm gonna wait until the unlocked one comes and get that. I miss root.... Haven't had it since the G4.
There's nothing root offers me that I must have.
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There's nothing root offers me that I must have.
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I wish I could say the same. Ads drive me utterly bonkers! An adblocker and HOSTS file modification is a must for me.
jcsww said:
I wish I could say the same. Ads drive me utterly bonkers! An adblocker and HOSTS file modification is a must for me.
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Ads where? I can't even say I know where I've ever seen an ad.
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Ads where? I can't even say I know where I've ever seen an ad.
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Even XDA Developers has ads on the site. I take it you don't surf the internet very much or watch YouTube? Some free apps also contain ads.
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Even XDA Developers has ads on the site. I take it you don't surf the internet very much or watch YouTube? Some free apps also contain ads.
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I think he is just being a smart ass, same **** people were doing in the note 8 forums about root on carrier phones.
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There's nothing root offers me that I must have.
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Congratulations. I think Apple makes a phone you would be interested in..... Most of us here on XDA want root capabilities and an unlocked bootloader for obvious reasons.....
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Congratulations. I think Apple makes a phone you would be interested in..... Most of us here on XDA want root capabilities and an unlocked bootloader for obvious reasons.....
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You feel better? Just because I don't need root means I need to go Apple. Great thought processing you have going. KY
So LG doesn't know when the release date for the unlocked is? I'm done with having this note 8 and no root, and even when root is achieved for us note 8's it will come with shortcomings
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So LG doesn't know when the release date for the unlocked is? I'm done with having this note 8 and no root, and even when root is achieved for us note 8's it will come with shortcomings
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Nothing official but more than likely around the middle of November, at least what some sites are hinting towards.
the LG V30 is the most gorgeous phone they've ever made. I like that it doesn't have overly curved sides creating a glare. BUT....I have to have full theming available. The theming out of the box doesn't cut it. I need everything to be black with an accent color of my choosing.
Does the Unlocked Bootloader UK have the 600MHz network speed? Or is it just US variant that have it?
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Does the Unlocked Bootloader UK have the 600MHz network speed? Or is it just US variant that have it?
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You mean the 600MHz frequency? LTE BAND 71? The new U.S. T-Mobile LTE band? Not sure why you used the words "network speed".
I'm not speaking for LG, but European carrier unlocked V30 wouldn't need it. What carriers in Europe are using that LTE band? It's not just software, but also hardware (antennas) needed to send/receive that new LTE band.
For instance the South Korea LG V30 model does not have that band.
We have yet to see if the U.S. carrier unlocked version will definitely have it on release. It should, as all the U.S. variants should have the same hardware, with various bands enabled/disabled according to carrier needs. Verizon doesn't need LTE band 71, T-Mobile does.
But it would make sense for LG to basically make the same phone for all of North America, and then enable/disable bands for various carriers.
The "carrier unlocked" version US998 SHOULD have all the U.S./Canada bands enabled. One dept. of T-Mobile said it would, but another said it wouldn't or they didn't know. But LG doesn't need T-Mobile permission to enable that band on a phone T-Mobile is not selling (carrier unlocked version, US998). T-Mobile can't speak for LG.
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So LG doesn't know when the release date for the unlocked is? I'm done with having this note 8 and no root, and even when root is achieved for us note 8's it will come with shortcomings
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I sent my note 8 back over this and am waiting on the V30.
RiffyDivine said:
I sent my note 8 back over this and am waiting on the V30.
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Why did you sent the note 8 back???
Is the best phone out there so far....
I'm looking to buy a used G8X on eBay (GSM Unlocked) to use in the Dominican Republic. I was wondering if there's an advantage to buying one version over another (AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, etc) or if they're all the same. I know some times phones will have diferent variants that won't let you use the same rooting methods or the same ROMs.
Also, do all versions support the dual screen case, even if it didn't originally come with it? I'd probably buy the phone without the dual screen and maybe buy that later.
Thanks in advance.