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The power and volume buttons on the rezound are a hindrance at best, poorly designed and implemented.
I mean come on, flush buttons for critical functions... what was they thinking?!
Sure flush buttons can work, but they must be on the facing side of the device and be clearly visible is some way. Like the power button on many devices. (my laptop for example) They at least need to be able to be found easily tactically.
But the buttons on the rezound are thin, leaving little room for tactile differentiation and they are also placed on the side of the device where you can not see them without actively turning the phone and looking. So yeah, they are small pain and annoyance in an otherwise fine phone.
But was this always so? Was the buttons like this from the beginning and all through in house use testing and never discovered... or was it a last minute design change that wasn't thought through?
Lets look at some evidence shall we. Stock photos of the rezound in official HTC accessories.
Lets see...
Exhibit 1: HTC Silicone Skin view A
Exhibit 2: HTC Silicone Skin view B
Exhibit 3: HTC TPU Case view A
Exhibit 4: HTC TPU Case view B
Exhibit 5: HTC Extended Battery and Battery Door
This is only a few examples, there are others.
As you can see, these Rezounds all have buttons that protrude from the device slightly, just enough to allow tactile location of these critical controls.
It may just all be a trick of the angles and lighting when the pictures were taken, but they seem to protrude too far for that.
I believe these devices are early build units destined for in house testing and use of the final design. For some strange reason though, they changed the buttons to a flush mount for the actual production run.
Sad seeing as how great the phone is otherwise.
I have no issues with the power button and volume rocker. Once you get used to it they perform just fine imo.
Hmm. I plan on getting the extended battery and I am wondering how the cover will effect the flush buttons but in the meantime I'm a fan of the design. I'm already use to them and find myself trying to turn on my incredible on the right.
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I have had mine for a few days, I am getting better, but I would still appreciate a better tactile feel for the button placement.
More nitpicking.
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Marine6680 said:
I have had mine for a few days, I am getting better, but I would still appreciate a better tactile feel for the button placement.
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well i totally agree that the volume button suck LOL....i use a TPU case and it really sucks to adjust the volume witht eh case on. Now witht he Otterbox Commuter i can press the buttons even easier witht he case on compared to being off...All i can say really is, Is this your first HTC DEVICE (not being mean either)?????....in the recent years ive noticed HTC's buttons have gotten more and more flush with the Housing. Like the EVO 4G, the volume buttons were great, but the POwer button was a pain in the ass. The EVO 3D buttons were horrifying. The were slightly raised this time but hard as hell to press. But I try not to worry about the buttosn so much. Its gets people thinking a little too much and then they start to think about returning it HEHE. Id say if they start to get real frustrating for you, maybe u can get a replacement and see if another one differs from the one u have now?....thats what I did with my EVO 3D and the second one was a world of difference...
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well i totally agree that the volume button suck LOL....i use a TPU case and it really sucks to adjust the volume witht eh case on. Now witht he Otterbox Commuter i can press the buttons even easier witht he case on compared to being off...All i can say really is, Is this your first HTC DEVICE (not being mean either)?????....in the recent years ive noticed HTC's buttons have gotten more and more flush with the Housing. Like the EVO 4G, the volume buttons were great, but the POwer button was a pain in the ass. The EVO 3D buttons were horrifying. The were slightly raised this time but hard as hell to press. But I try not to worry about the buttosn so much. Its gets people thinking a little too much and then they start to think about returning it HEHE. Id say if they start to get real frustrating for you, maybe u can get a replacement and see if another one differs from the one u have now?....thats what I did with my EVO 3D and the second one was a world of difference...
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I'm like you. I have the Otterbox Commuter case and this is a non-issue for me.
There is no difference.
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The button on my first rezound protruded,and had good response with tpu case. My second rezound buttons are flushed , but really is not a problem so I enjoy the phone.
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Some rezounds have buttons that pop out a bit and some rezounds have buttons that are flush with the bezel. Not an actual difference in the devices, it is a difference in the plastic pieces(volume rocker/power button). If you open up the device you will see what I am referring to.
Being a incredible 2 user for ovet a year...I stoll can't get used to volume buttons on the opposite side
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I hate the flush buttons... Otterbox fixed that issue for me tho
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My buttons look just like the pics. I can see the protrusion and feel it if I run my finger along the edge.
The volume rocker is in the same position as my old phone so it works great for me.
I would have preferred the power button on the side of the phone as I think it would be easier to push it one handed. Like right below the volume rocker so I could press it easily with my middle finger when holding the phone in my left hand. As it is, sometimes I unintentionally adjust the volume at the same time as hitting the power button due to holding the phone with my other fingers in that area. I'm sure I will get used to it and my hand position will adjust and it will become second nature for me to avoid doing that.
At first the buttons were annoying, but I have gotten used to them!!
I take it you're in the graduate program "Human Factors& Ergonomics".
This is my first smartphone, the buttons work great.
I wish they offered phones in different varieties for different sized people. for instance, I'm tall and have big hands so these 'small' phones like the Rezound are a bit if a pain to use. i'd like a much bigger phone that fits in my hand better and is easier to use the touchscreen(I keep accidentally hitting the wrong buttons/links on the screen).
The power and volume buttons i agree are difficult.
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This is far from my first HTC device... and not my first android. I have been around since the G1 days and followed the development since early 2007. All have been HTC phones.
The buttons are just a bit of a pain and a little more thought would have been nice. I love the phone otherwise though.
I did a slight mod to my TPU case that helps a lot with using the volume buttons.
I am a fan of good well thought out design. I am not a fan of design for designs sake. The rezound borders that line in a few places but overall I like it.
This was mostly just an observation I noticed and thought I would share.
The only thing that annoys me I'd that I'd like for the headphone jack to be on the opposite side. When I put my phone in landscape I turn it to the left so the buttons are by my right hand. When I have headphones plugged in, I have to rotate it the other way so the plug doesn't get in the way. It's just a minor annoyance.
I'm curious where people rank the rear buttons on the G2 in practice. If you have the phone and have been using it a reasonable amount of time, what's your take on the button placement compared to typical placements of the keys on the side/top etc.
I would prefer side ones. I can't tell which is which on the Verizon version and have to flip the phone around to see
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love them. much better than top/side buttons. it just makes sense.
I absolutely love the buttons on the back. For me, the buttons, thin bezel and knock-knock feature all make for a unique and fun experience. Love it.
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I rarely use the buttons at all anymore..... But, the few instances I do, I have to turn the phone over because the Verizon ones are so small. I prefer power on the right, volume on the left.
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ffejy462 said:
I rarely use the buttons at all anymore..... But, the few instances I do, I have to turn the phone over because the Verizon ones are so small. I prefer power on the right, volume on the left.
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Thank god for Knock-On, because I rarely touch the volume keys (Tasker automates it for me for most situations) and I have a Power button on my AOKP navbar as I usually avoid the power buttons on phones so I don't wear the out (usually do volume-wake).
the rear keys are extremely useful when i listen to music with wired third party earphone; while my phone is in my pocket, and i want to skip/rewind the songs.
i just put the rear side facing outside, and whenever i feel like changing the song, the button is always within reach without pulling the phone out of my pocket.
unlike most phones with side volume/power key.
and of course i used gravity box to enable those functions.
Rear buttons: fully functional, no accidentally pressing volume n power when holding the sides of phone anymore, easier to take selfie snapshots, knock knock reduces the power button from getting worn out fast, power button doubles as a notification light and glows during a phone call (looks cool at night) and also makes the phone unique (if you're into that).
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They're cool but taking a screenshot is a pain.
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They're cool but taking a screenshot is a pain.
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Absolutely love them. I have a case so I keep my index finger on the edge of the button cutout (essentially making sure my finger is by default on the volume down) and then I can easily find which button is which without thinking twice. My hands aren't that big and it's still very comfortable. My dad was a bit skeptical about it and he picked up the phone and noticed his finger just went to the buttons and realized it actually makes sense and isn't just a gimmicky idea.
I would like to see rear buttons as a rule in future phones.
Using for a week and quite comfortable with them. I love knock-on. Problem trying to zoom in camera though!!
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Definitely more love.
1) I constantly use a Bluetooth headphone so adjust the volume while the phone is in my front pocket is easy
2) Knock knock is way too cool
3) I seldom even use the power button at all with so much convenience built into the G2 stock UI (Korean F320S) Anyway Kit Kat is out for F320S
What back buttons?
Honestly, I don't even notice the back buttons since I use the knock knock feature.
The only times I used the buttons is for volume adjustment when I'm watching a video. Even then, I don't even see it as an inconvenience.
I have slight OCD so I avoid using the buttons so they don't waste. They seem as if the paint would rub off after to much use.
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Using for a week and quite comfortable with them. I love knock-on. Problem trying to zoom in camera though!!
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I thought the "Take picture with power button" function in the stock ROM was hilarious; who could possibly do that? Selfies I guess, but using the rear camera, that'd be almost impossible with any kind of normal position on the phone.
Esteef said:
Honestly, I don't even notice the back buttons since I use the knock knock feature.
The only times I used the buttons is for volume adjustment when I'm watching a video. Even then, I don't even see it as an inconvenience.
I have slight OCD so I avoid using the buttons so they don't waste. They seem as if the paint would rub off after to much use.
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I have to agree. Knock-on is one of the most unexpectedly awesome (for me at least) features I've had in a phone in a long time, and I almost never use my power button.
I must say that it's a good thing knock-on is great though, cause the button layout on my VS980 is terrible. It seems like a simple fix like moving the power button next to the volume buttons would have fixed this, and made the buttons more distinct feeling. Putting it in the middle of the volume buttons make it impossible to tell which button you are pressing.
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i find it much easier. i use my one index finger to hold down both power and volume and bam, pic taken, nice and simple.
I absolutely love those bastards at the back of the phone. First because it allows the bezel to be almost non existent and 2 cause it gives the phone an identity. I love them.
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really awesome, I love them so much
Please use this thread to discuss devices other than and any comparisons with other devices on or about the GS 5 in this thread and any other off-topic issues that are not needing a new thread.
Post with respect, this is a helpful community, hope we all learn from this stuff in here.
How likely is it for the T-Mobile s5 to have a locked bootloader like att and verizon s4?
(I'm worried because the Xperia Z1s from T-Mobile wasn't unlockable even though sony devices usually are... So are locked bootloaders T-Mobile's new policy?)
Anyone think there will be a chance for a GPE? It seems like the M8 will be getting one according to the HTC gallery description in the Play Store. If so, I would prefer the S5 GPE over the M8 version.
The migration begins soon
Been mostly a lurker on the S2 forums, but I've placed my order and now the long wait for Christmas morning.
Ha ha
Christmas morning in April huh?
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I'm coming from a Note2... I love the device, but honestly its slightly larger then I'd like for 1 hand holding. I'm not looking forward to adjusting to a smaller screen. lol
Metro Pcs Gs5 with a T-Mobile sim? or visa versa?
hey do any of you guys know if the metro pics GS5 can be used wit a T-Mobile sim or does it need to be unlocked? I know that metro uses T-Mobile towers now I'm wondering if it will be the same model
Backordered?
Just ordered GS5 from t-mobile and got an email saying back ordered, anybody else order one and receive the email? I wonder if its just because its not available.
Yeah
All of them show up as backordered.
That is how their system handles backorder
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Ha ha
Christmas morning in April huh?
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Christmas eve now! Mine is in the Twin Cities and will be delivered tomorrow!
I have an S5 being delivered today, but I kinda sorta want to try something new and go with the HTC One M8, but a year to a year and half of something new may be regrettable.... blah
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hmm think I may Jump from LG G2 thanks to T-mobiles destructive kitkat recovery lockdown.
G2 is a mess after update GS5 here I come
Just upgraded from an s2 and man I'm sure glad I did this phone is so much faster!
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sikaros said:
Just upgraded from an s2 and man I'm sure glad I did this phone is so much faster!
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I bet it is
I purchased a couple hours ago pretty happy with it so.
Signal . Wifi , data strength & call quality is stronger then LG G2 which is a good sign.
Hopefully battery life provides positive results....I will give it a couple charge cycles.
If all is well I will be rooting this bad boy next week & building some goodies.
Anyway good to be holding a Samsung device again.
Can anyone explain the decision to stick with 2 GB ram - same as it was going back to the SIII? The Note 3 had 3, and I realize its a faster processor- but S3 and 4 already are snappy enough which handling whatever you do on screen, its the background processes and heavy multitasking with lots of apps working where the phone starts to hang and start to feel sluggish.
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I bought the Samsung GS5 and HTC One M8. Now I have to return one. Help me decide which one!
I purchased both phones to use simultaneously for a couple weeks. I was confident that at the end of the two weeks, I’d have a clear answer about which phone was best for me – but I’m still torn.
I do think I have my mind made up about which phone is better in specific categories, and maybe some things people don’t think about when writing reviews.
Camera image quality on good shots: GS5.
Outside M8:
Outside GS5:
Auto settings. I upscaled the M8 image to 16MP. I think IMGUR might automatically downscale. My overall impression is that the M8 takes in too much light. It’s difficult to avoid, even when playing with exposure settings. Once you zoom, the GS5 16MP really comes into play. You can be the judge on which images are better, and by how much.
Camera consistency: M8. 50% my shots with the S5 end up a bit blurry. 75% of my M8 shots are in focus. That’s with still imagery.
Which is more important? Overall quality on excellent shots, or consistency?
Handfeel:
The S5 is easier to hold, especially when laying down in bed. The S5 is lighter and weighted in a way that feels like my hand is simply connected to the device. It doesn’t put strain on my wrist or make me feel concerned about dropping it at all. My confidence level holding the device without a case is extremely high. On the other hand, the S5 has a filmy/slimy feeling that makes it feel dirty. It always feels like the back of the S5 was rubbed on a slice of pizza. I feel confident holding it, but I don’t enjoy it. It’s very uninspiring.
The M8 feels amazing in the hand. I consistently want to pick it up for no other reason than to hold it. It has a nice cool temperature that is very welcoming. I don’t think the M8 is more slippery than the S5. I think it’s how the device is weighted. It’s harder to hold because it feels screen side heavy. When I’m holding it in bed, I always feel like the device is going to slip out of my hand and fall on my face. Not because the case is more slippery, but because of the weight. I am constantly reinforcing my grip on the phone out of fear of dropping it. It’s a strange mix of wanting to pick it up, and being afraid to pick it up.
I did use a GS4 and a Galaxy Nexus prior to that. I wonder how much of this is because I simply feel comfortable with Samsung devices? From a practical standpoint I feel the S5 is the better phone here. From an emotional standpoint I like how the HTC makes me feel.
Turning the device on and off:
The S5 can be turned on with the home button or power button. I’ve found hitting the home button is easier than double tapping. I’ve been able to use the fingerprint scanner with about 80% accuracy with one hand and my thumb. Accessing the camera from the lockscreen produces a second or two of lag.
The M8 is double tap or the top power button. The power button is my least favorite option, it’s recessed and actually fairly difficult to push. Double tap works when you hold the device, but not as well when the device is laying on a surface. For example, if I’m playing music and want to change a song, double tap doesn’t recognize my input 50% of the time. I have to keep double tapping or eventually pick the device up or hit the power button to turn the screen on.
On a positive side with the M8, tilting the device to the side and hitting the volume up key does instantly bring the M8 camera on. And it’s fast. Very handy.
Turning the devices off, there’s always a moment when reaching up to the power button on the M8 that I’m consciously concerned about dropping the device. Side power buttons are better.
Buttons:
Am I the only one that thinks it makes sense to have the back button on the right side like Samsung does it? I use the back button with my thumb 95% more than the current apps button. I don’t enjoy reaching across the screen on the M8. I also tend to prefer the Samsung home button, even though it’s an additional point of failure. I like being able to click a button to turn the screen on or go home. The tactile feel helps very much. I’m often hunting around on the M8 for the onscreen buttons, because the “HTC” bezel throws me off. What a waste of space.
Screen:
The S5 auto brightness is darker than the M8. With AB off, it’s easier to read text on the S5. With it on, it’s generally easier to read text on the M8. S5 is more vibrant with pictures, but the M8 has better contrast. I love the extra screen real estate due to the lack of screen buttons on the S5.
Touchwiz vs Sense: No preference.
How long will I keep the device:
I feel that the M8 will be gone in a year, because the M9 will have a better camera that make it a worthwhile upgrade. I can see myself holding onto the S5 for two years, it really is maxed out with specs and just works. On the other hand, the uninspiring nature of the S5 will probably make me want to ditch it in 2015.
crazeco said:
I bought the Samsung GS5 and HTC One M8. Now I have to return one. Help me decide which one!
I purchased both phones to use simultaneously for a couple weeks. I was confident that at the end of the two weeks, I’d have a clear answer about which phone was best for me – but I’m still torn.
I do think I have my mind made up about which phone is better in specific categories, and maybe some things people don’t think about when writing reviews.
Camera image quality on good shots: GS5.
Outside M8: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Pk8jEUw.jpg[/IMG]
Outside GS5:
Auto settings. I upscaled the M8 image to 16MP. I think IMGUR might automatically downscale. My overall impression is that the M8 takes in too much light. It’s difficult to avoid, even when playing with exposure settings. Once you zoom, the GS5 16MP really comes into play. You can be the judge on which images are better, and by how much.
Camera consistency: M8. 50% my shots with the S5 end up a bit blurry. 75% of my M8 shots are in focus. That’s with still imagery.
Which is more important? Overall quality on excellent shots, or consistency?
Handfeel:
The S5 is easier to hold, especially when laying down in bed. The S5 is lighter and weighted in a way that feels like my hand is simply connected to the device. It doesn’t put strain on my wrist or make me feel concerned about dropping it at all. My confidence level holding the device without a case is extremely high. On the other hand, the S5 has a filmy/slimy feeling that makes it feel dirty. It always feels like the back of the S5 was rubbed on a slice of pizza. I feel confident holding it, but I don’t enjoy it. It’s very uninspiring.
The M8 feels amazing in the hand. I consistently want to pick it up for no other reason than to hold it. It has a nice cool temperature that is very welcoming. I don’t think the M8 is more slippery than the S5. I think it’s how the device is weighted. It’s harder to hold because it feels screen side heavy. When I’m holding it in bed, I always feel like the device is going to slip out of my hand and fall on my face. Not because the case is more slippery, but because of the weight. I am constantly reinforcing my grip on the phone out of fear of dropping it. It’s a strange mix of wanting to pick it up, and being afraid to pick it up.
I did use a GS4 and a Galaxy Nexus prior to that. I wonder how much of this is because I simply feel comfortable with Samsung devices? From a practical standpoint I feel the S5 is the better phone here. From an emotional standpoint I like how the HTC makes me feel.
Turning the device on and off:
The S5 can be turned on with the home button or power button. I’ve found hitting the home button is easier than double tapping. I’ve been able to use the fingerprint scanner with about 80% accuracy with one hand and my thumb. Accessing the camera from the lockscreen produces a second or two of lag.
The M8 is double tap or the top power button. The power button is my least favorite option, it’s recessed and actually fairly difficult to push. Double tap works when you hold the device, but not as well when the device is laying on a surface. For example, if I’m playing music and want to change a song, double tap doesn’t recognize my input 50% of the time. I have to keep double tapping or eventually pick the device up or hit the power button to turn the screen on.
On a positive side with the M8, tilting the device to the side and hitting the volume up key does instantly bring the M8 camera on. And it’s fast. Very handy.
Turning the devices off, there’s always a moment when reaching up to the power button on the M8 that I’m consciously concerned about dropping the device. Side power buttons are better.
Buttons:
Am I the only one that thinks it makes sense to have the back button on the right side like Samsung does it? I use the back button with my thumb 95% more than the current apps button. I don’t enjoy reaching across the screen on the M8. I also tend to prefer the Samsung home button, even though it’s an additional point of failure. I like being able to click a button to turn the screen on or go home. The tactile feel helps very much. I’m often hunting around on the M8 for the onscreen buttons, because the “HTC” bezel throws me off. What a waste of space.
Screen:
The S5 auto brightness is darker than the M8. With AB off, it’s easier to read text on the S5. With it on, it’s generally easier to read text on the M8. S5 is more vibrant with pictures, but the M8 has better contrast. I love the extra screen real estate due to the lack of screen buttons on the S5.
Touchwiz vs Sense: No preference.
How long will I keep the device:
I feel that the M8 will be gone in a year, because the M9 will have a better camera that make it a worthwhile upgrade. I can see myself holding onto the S5 for two years, it really is maxed out with specs and just works. On the other hand, the uninspiring nature of the S5 will probably make me want to ditch it in 2015.
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Dude first of all thanks a lot for a very informative post, really appreciate it.
I'm interested yo know your input about the performance of both devices. If you don't mind, can u give a detailed opinion about the performance like you did about the rest on your post above? Thanks! Want to see how the S5 does compared to the M8.
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Dude first of all thanks a lot for a very informative post, really appreciate it.
I'm interested yo know your input about the performance of both devices. If you don't mind, can u give a detailed opinion about the performance like you did about the rest on your post above? Thanks! Want to see how the S5 does compared to the M8.
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I addressed some of this in the above, I made the following post in the HTC forum and thought this might answer your question on "performance":
I used the M8 and S5 side by side for over a week. I really wanted to keep the M8, but I couldn't.
Basic inputs:
It actually takes longer to use the M8 for basic inputs, turning the device on, and turning it off. The Samsung turns on a bit faster with just pushing the home button. Fingerprint scanner unlocks more quickly. Side power button is far superior.
Double tap on the M8 is NOT perfect. Neither is holding the device in landscape and hitting the volume key to activate the camera (doesn't work on the first try about 30%). Double tap takes you to the first lock screen. Then you have to slide the icon of what you want to use and input your pin. This can be mitigated by utilizing swipes instead of double tap. It's still not faster.
Buttons:
I often found myself constantly hunting for the onscreen buttons on the M8. The empty HTC bezel throws you off. It's very hard to have muscle memory when you have a big empty row where you think the buttons are. It also takes a moment for the buttons to simply appear. S5 doesn't have this issue due to the hardware home button.
Screen Off:
However often we turn the screen on, a lot of us are also turning it off. It takes longer to turn the screen off on the M8 than it does the S5. Every time I turned the M8 off with one hand it required maneuvering the device in a way that made me fear dropping it because the power button is on top and the device is long. I generally used my other hand to hit the power button just for that reason. That's not necessary on the S5.
Screen on with Music:
I LOVE the M8 speakers. I love playing music on this device around the house, while I'm in the shower, etc. If I am playing music on the M8 and have the device on the counter, and I want to change a song, it's not designed to register a doubletap when laying flat. With the S5, I hit the home button and it brings the screen up. It takes significantly longer to either find a way to hit the top power button or repeatedly tap the screen until it registers on the M8.
Speed:
In day to day use, after disabling bloat on the S5, the devices are equally as snappy. In fact, the S5 is more accessible for the reasons mentioned above. That's all that matters, because all of us here are capable of tinkering and optimizing.
Everyone wants to talk about microseconds worth of lag, what about basic functions, like turning the screen off. It's little things like that, things I do often, which should be taken into consideration when you talk about how long you have to wait for things between devices. If we are going to argue about tenths of a second, these things matter.
Let me start by saying that i bought this phone only 3 days ago and these are the problems I've found with it.
1. The Second screen back light issue. This is a common problem among many lg v10 users as i have noticed, and i have that same problem too. to the extreme left of the second display it is brighter than the rest but only when it is off. I do not find this very annoying since i do not use the second display for reading my notifications while it is off. i mostly use it when the screen is on
2. In addition to that, the power button/ fingerprint scanner combo is completely garbage, as in the actual clicking. the button seems loose and when i click it, it squeaks. Also, when i run my finger up and down the power button it wobbles and has the same annoying squeak.
3. The charging port is loose. Not so much that the cable could slide out not in that axis, but it moves side to side freely and up and down. this worries me because i think that if i put too much pressure on the cable the port could break somehow.
4. The steel bezels are nice and stuff but the gaps, are uneven at the bottom left, the metal bezel is like bent and you can easily see through it. also at the back when you pop in the cover it seems like it doesn't align with the bezel. but that might just be my ocd lol
This phone in my opinion is great the best phone I've had. but its just that these things are what let me down. This phone is great but they absolutely ruined it with the quality control. note* my batch is from January 15, 2016
U probably just got a bad one. Sometimes, they make it thru the quality control somehow. I would return it until u get the one ur satisfied with.
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U probably just got a bad one. Sometimes, they make it thru the quality control somehow. I would return it until u get the one ur satisfied with.
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Yeah I think I should but I'll wait until the weekend and decide if I should change it.
Probably a good idea. The flaws won't change. I have the lightbleed on the 2nd screen, but I never notice unless it's absolutely pitch black where I am and the screen is off. It doesn't annoy me tho.
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YMartin said:
This phone in my opinion is great the best phone I've had. but its just that these things are what let me down. This phone is great but they absolutely ruined it with the quality control. note* my batch is from January 15, 2016
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I like the phone, maybe I love it. I have the same problem with the residual light on the left of second screen. (phone batch 26 Oct.2015) But, what I dislike the most:
1. The lack of a LED on the front.
2. The second screen, about my opinion is useless until then a developer create an xposed apk for a flashing light on second screen when I loose a call.
3. The fingerprint sensor is useless too for me.
4. Volume of the speaker is not too loud.
But, I like the size and the shape of the phone. It is a catch eyes everywhere I go. Benchmarks are very good for a Snapdragon 808. The screen is very fluid. And the most, the camera and his software are great; you believe or not I compared in photoshop pictures from an expensive Sony semiprofessional DSLR camera with photos made with my V10 and the overall quality are quite the same. It's the best phone I ever had (and I had a lot of top level androids)
I don't want to change it, even on a G5!
H961 dual SIM, rooted, debloated.
The light bleed is a common issue, but everything else sounds like your phone was assembled incorrectly, you should exchange it
Okay so today I was wondering if I could find any more nit picky problems and noticed that the back cover did not sit flush with the buttons and that if I pushed it down it became flushnot a big issue but it bugs me when I'm turning up the volume or turning on the phone
thisisjason said:
The light bleed is a common issue, but everything else sounds like your phone was assembled incorrectly, you should exchange it
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Well I exchanged a week ago and now that the time limit to return it is over, it cracked, not from a drop. It just cracked by itself there is a small hair line crack right by the metal rail and if is so annoying I paid good money and I take care of my phones well even if this was made to be tough. It cracked while I was in the car waiting for someone and then out of no where I heard a little pop and I thought nothing about it but after I finished watching the video I noticed it and got so scared I was like"did I drop it" but I did not idk how it managed to break I haven't dropped my phone yet and it just cracked out of nowhere
I loved, and still live my MXPE camera. This one seems a little lackluster comparatively. Any found a setting that needs tweaked? It seems very software related.
I haven't had any issues, I miss the old layout but I changed the option from shutter button to tap anywhere and it feels better.
Aside from redoing a point and click to help adjust light, no, haven't discovered any big tricks yet. Pro mode doesn't add all that much. Related to camera, anyone get scratching on cams lens? I had it for two days and kept in soft sunglasses case, and already it's covered in microscratches, my note 4 has been abused for a while now and has zero, little disconcerting
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Mid-light seems to cause real dramas for the Moto Z camera. Bright or low light no problems but there's some terrible shutter lag in mid-light. It can be easily overcome by going into Pro mode and increasing the shutter speed (at the expensive of added noise) but it's a shame it's not been turned to this setting out of the box.
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Aside from redoing a point and click to help adjust light, no, haven't discovered any big tricks yet. Pro mode doesn't add all that much. Related to camera, anyone get scratching on cams lens? I had it for two days and kept in soft sunglasses case, and already it's covered in microscratches, my note 4 has been abused for a while now and has zero, little disconcerting
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The same story here, after 2 days of careful usage, I noticed two scratches on the camera glass that's supposed to be made of gorilla glass 4, the best way I found to deal with it is to put a dbrand skin on it, costs just 99 cents, it just arrived today. Another thing about the camera, is it just me, or it seems slow to react to movement, like when in the camera app you move the phone and the image on the screen moves real slow a second later, like back in the day on cheap Chinese no brand phones:laugh:, doesn't happen all the time though, hard to say what the reason for this behavior might be.
HelloMoto777 said:
The same story here, after 2 days of careful usage, I noticed two scratches on the camera glass that's supposed to be made of gorilla glass 4, the best way I found to deal with it is to put a dbrand skin on it, costs just 99 cents, it just arrived today. Another thing about the camera, is it just me, or it seems slow to react to movement, like when in the camera app you move the phone and the image on the screen moves real slow a second later, like back in the day on cheap Chinese no brand phones:laugh:, doesn't happen all the time though, hard to say what the reason for this behavior might be.
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That "slow to react" thing is the image stabilization catching up, can be worse sometimes than others. And I would get a protector for my lens if it didn't create a whole other layer of light refracting scratches. This lens is like putting little tike wheels on a sports car, totally embarassing in design and kinda unacceptable
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Then there's this, Not happy with how easily the lens scratches. I don't abuse my devices...
So baby that thang if you want the camera below the crappy shield to work
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