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I'm currently using the Zenfone 2 (4GB RAM) and I will soon getting a Redmi Note 3 PRO (Snapdragon). I'm new to the xiaomi's ecosystem, I'm so confused here. Their stable ROM have version number of v7.** but their beta versions are v6.**. This is so confusing, I'd assume that they have two totally unrelated version numbering (ie betas have betas numbering and stables have stables numbering). Am I right?
But the main question is that now Asus had announced that the Zenfone 2 will get Android M in Q2 2016, and the users are complaining that Q2 is VERY LATE. But now I checked the Internet for Xiaomi's plan on Android M, I can only find that they are planning to upgrade the XIAOMI line of devices (ie Mi4 Mi5 MiNote etc) and nothing have been told about REDMI line of devices (ie Redmi3 RedmiNote3). If the RMN3P is not getting Android M, I consider my switch from Zenfone 2 a downgrade despite the RMN3 have better specs and one year newer. What are your thoughts on this about "Will RMN3P get Android M" ? Will we be upgraded?
And moreover the RMN3 community doesn't seem like they care about Android M. Only one thread that is related to Android M on MIUI forum and that's a poll asking if they want it or not (and some users don't want it). Maybe to some, it's pointless to upgrade to Android M but for me, the main reason I want Android M is the native fingerprint API so that apps like Lastpass can integrate and use the fingerprint sensor present on the RMN3 (we can only use it for unlocking device only currently).
Why you replace your phone?
saarxee said:
Why you replace your phone?
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I'm giving the Zenfone 2 to someone else
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we prefer android M but it really doesn't matter because in miui you have more feature than the pure android or touchwiz etc
it's like new os between android and ios with monthly update
_ehsun said:
we prefer android M but it really doesn't matter because in miui you have more feature than the pure android or touchwiz etc
it's like new os between android and ios with monthly update
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I understand. But I found out that redmi devices never gets upgrade other than weekly updates. Redmi devices stays on whatever version it came with. With this case on the note 3 pro it's 5.1 forever
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better look for other device.
Xiaomi sad "with the start of the Mi5 in India we will bring 6.0 to Redmi Note 3 Pro, like the Mi5"
You got Stable and Dev Rom. With the Dev Rom you get every friday a update.
Look the Mi2, when it's rls and look which version of Android you will get today (I think almost 4 years later).
klanac8901 said:
Xiaomi sad "with the start of the Mi5 in India we will bring 6.0 to Redmi Note 3 Pro, like the Mi5"
You got Stable and Dev Rom. With the Dev Rom you get every friday a update.
Look the Mi2, when it's rls and look which version of Android you will get today (I think almost 4 years later).
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Hopefully they will really bring 6.0 to Redmi Note 3 Pro unlike other Redmi devices that never get any Android updates at all.
And I thought the global ROM there's no dev ROM now? For the global rom we only have stable one
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Xiaomi sad "with the start of the Mi5 in India we will bring 6.0 to Redmi Note 3 Pro, like the Mi5"
You got Stable and Dev Rom. With the Dev Rom you get every friday a update.
Look the Mi2, when it's rls and look which version of Android you will get today (I think almost 4 years later).
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When did they say this actually? Im kinda curious xD
ImjuzCY said:
Hopefully they will really bring 6.0 to Redmi Note 3 Pro unlike other Redmi devices that never get any Android updates at all.
And I thought the global ROM there's no dev ROM now? For the global rom we only have stable one
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No global dev beta build is out for redmi note 3 snapdragon
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And I thought the global ROM there's no dev ROM now? For the global rom we only have stable one
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hasan05 said:
No global dev beta build is out for redmi note 3 snapdragon
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http://en.miui.com/thread-252473-1-1.html
you are upgrading not downgrading..trust me...
i used ZF2 now using RN3 Pro 3gb.. only camera is downside on low light...but i trust Xiaomi..they are usually great with camera
also..if u just want to use app locks?? then dont wry they released 7.2.2 for some users and it is having app lock with FPS feature...and mi4i,mi3,mi4 are already upgraded from their initial android version[not miui version]
so yeah they can update android version ..
and also they release RN3 pro kernel yesterday which means custom roms can be more stable and most feature can be implemented ...
just relax and enjoy RN3
ansebovi said:
you are upgrading not downgrading..trust me...
i used ZF2 now using RN3 Pro 3gb.. only camera is downside on low light...but i trust Xiaomi..they are usually great with camera
also..if u just want to use app locks?? then dont wry they released 7.2.2 for some users and it is having app lock with FPS feature...and mi4i,mi3,mi4 are already upgraded from their initial android version[not miui version]
so yeah they can update android version ..
and also they release RN3 pro kernel yesterday which means custom roms can be more stable and most feature can be implemented ...
just relax and enjoy RN3
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Ahhhh I remember you from the ZF2 subforum. I know for sure hardware side it is an upgrade. From the software side I'm not sure because I didn't use Xiaomi devices before. But from opinions of a few users above including you, I think RMN2P software will not be worse than the ZF2. It'd just that maybe RMN2P will get Android M later than the ZF2 since xiaomi still didn't release plan to upgrade it.
And I don't care about applock, but what I meant in OP is that the lastpass app itself do support firstprint but previously it doesn't work with xiaomi's fingerprint sensor because xiaomi didn't release API to the developers. But recently it worked, so it's okay now.
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As the kernel source is released yesterday..we can get custom roms with in a month...as the cm12.1 already available in alpha stage developed by Santhosh MM....as u can see in that thread he said its time for cm13....as i saw his development for many devices he even made roma for my previous device yureka he is fast in developing roms...we can get stable cm13 for rn3 with in a month for sure..
I also sold my Asus Zenfone 2 (ZE551ML) and purchased Redmi Note 3 (snapdragon with 3gb/32gb). This mobile is far way better in RAM management and battery backup when compared to my zenny. Camera is awesome in zenny, but for a price of 12,000 INR we should not expect much.
ImjuzCY said:
I'm currently using the Zenfone 2 (4GB RAM) and I will soon getting a Redmi Note 3 PRO (Snapdragon). I'm new to the xiaomi's ecosystem, I'm so confused here. Their stable ROM have version number of v7.** but their beta versions are v6.**. This is so confusing, I'd assume that they have two totally unrelated version numbering (ie betas have betas numbering and stables have stables numbering). Am I right?
But the main question is that now Asus had announced that the Zenfone 2 will get Android M in Q2 2016, and the users are complaining that Q2 is VERY LATE. But now I checked the Internet for Xiaomi's plan on Android M, I can only find that they are planning to upgrade the XIAOMI line of devices (ie Mi4 Mi5 MiNote etc) and nothing have been told about REDMI line of devices (ie Redmi3 RedmiNote3). If the RMN3P is not getting Android M, I consider my switch from Zenfone 2 a downgrade despite the RMN3 have better specs and one year newer. What are your thoughts on this about "Will RMN3P get Android M" ? Will we be upgraded?
And moreover the RMN3 community doesn't seem like they care about Android M. Only one thread that is related to Android M on MIUI forum and that's a poll asking if they want it or not (and some users don't want it). Maybe to some, it's pointless to upgrade to Android M but for me, the main reason I want Android M is the native fingerprint API so that apps like Lastpass can integrate and use the fingerprint sensor present on the RMN3 (we can only use it for unlocking device only currently).
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if you want regular android updates go for moto g4 !!!! becoz redmi devices don't get android version update but only miui ver updates ! But I am gonna buy this and flash mokee 6.0.1 official !!! mokee rocks !!!
Xiaomi will get Android 6 Marshmallow and it is said by Xiaomi since the MIUI Forums said that MIUI 8 (Android 6) will be released in 17 of June.
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I would ofcourse like android 6, but if you are on miui does it really make a big difference? Ofcourse you will miss a few new android features if it doesn't upgrade to M, however, atleast there are other regular updates and system security patches right?
On my samsung tab4 i received just one firmware update and i think after that any official development was discontinued.
**MIUI 8 Based On Nougat**
Earlier this week the company Xiaomi Released for flagship smartphone beta firmware MIUI 8 (build 6.12.8) on the basis of Android 7.0 Nougat for the Chinese region. Now the manufacturer has announced the global beta version 6.12.8 from multiple languages ??on official support for a larger number of devices, including Mi3, Mi4, Mi4i, Redmi 1S, Redmi 2, 2 redmi Prime, Redmi Note 2, Mi Max, Mi5S, Redmi note 3 and their variations. This means that the owners of these devices, if they had previously received MIUI 8, can now be downloaded from the official site Xiaomi latest firmware and install it.
Also note that for Xiaomi Mi5 global firmware based on Android 7.0 Nougat is currently only available to program participants of closed beta, but will soon be released to the public.
In the last week there was information that behind the flagship Xiaomi Mi5 manufacturer plans to start testing the firmware MIUI 8 based on Android 7.0 Nougat for smartphones 4C, 4S, Mi Note and Mi Max. And now, after only a few days, the company actually announced the start of closed testing Android 7.0 for the above devices. It is expected that, as in the case of the Xiaomi Mi5, closed beta test the new firmware for Xiaomi 4C, 4S, Mi Note, Mi Max and RN3 will last about a month, after which everyone will be able to test the update.
It is also worth noting that the situation is not yet clear with last year Xiaomi Mi Note. This device is based on a quad-core Snapdragon 801, which does not support Vulkan API in Android 7.0 Nougat. On this basis, Mi Note may eventually not get a stable version of Android 7.0, but this information is not officially confirmed.
Source-
Here
Gizchina
miui forum,
Article doesnt say anything about RN3 getting N...Only 4C, 4S, Mi Note, Mi Max and Mi5 are mentioned.
I know though that hw is almost aame with Mi Max so I think it should come
Oscilator said:
Article doesnt say anything about RN3 getting N...Only 4C, 4S, Mi Note, Mi Max and Mi5 are mentioned.
I know though that hw is almost aame with Mi Max so I think it should come
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Xiaomi is known for updating their mid-range phone's Android version, for only once. We already got a bump from 5.1.1 to 6.0.1. So, no more updates.
My old Mi4i was still on 5.0.2, not even 5.1.1.
Admit it, guys. Android versions don't really bring any changes to MIUI.
Yeah, but my RN3 was made in August and came with 6.0.1...but I know they will probably not release N for it, although its old Mi line is getting it. So better to go for Mi products than Redmi in future if I ever buy Xiaomi again...probably, because its still nice price/performance, but they started pricing new models too high and too many models to choose from. So no stable updatea...well they aim to use a smartphone for max one year
I plan on buying the Note 5 when it comes out in January. I know the Note 4 is updated with November patch, and also how good it is. But is Xiaomi supporting a device 2 years old ??? I need know if the phone I so eagerly want to buy well last nearly 2 years.
Any and all experiences shared are helpful.
Personally, i think not. Xiaomi doesn't respect the 2 years support for this device. It received MIUI 9, yes, but it was still based on Marshmallow, if they really care, they would have updated it to Nougat, like they did with their Mi counterpart (Xiaomi Mi Max)
You can grab note 5 if it doesn't come with SD 625 & probably equipped with 660.
Don't expect much from ****UI devs, XDA devs are always the best.
Only buy MI devices if you're low on budget & like ****UI irrespective of android version.
Hey I just heard from digit.in that xiaomi is rolling MIUI 9.5 based on Android 7.0 to 30 of it's devices including our beloved redmi 3s series.If nothing went wrong, it would be released within few days.I think we can expect some more roms for our devices now. Cheers:laugh:
Yeah it really must be truth. Stable 7.0 without testing in dev builds.
Here it is. As you see still 6.0 and yeah, still almost year old security patch.
http://bigota.d.miui.com/V9.5.1.0.MALMIFA/miui_HM3SGlobal_V9.5.1.0.MALMIFA_4cc6983736_6.0.zip
All Hail To Xiaomi For this.. ??
Well that's what they said
no 7.0 for Redmi 3s!
MIUI 9 Global Stable ROM V9.5.1.0.MALMIFA based on Android 6 (Marshmallow) has rolled out to public users.
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F__k Xiaomi
Was my first Xiaomi, and now is my last!!!!
Never never Xiaomi again!!
Guys they sell great value for money products.. u can always change the software but what matters is the hardware.
Take the example of leco le max 2 it has snapdragon 820 at a price range of 10500 at banggoods, no one can match.. To its performance per dollar ?..
But still 6.1
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I am cool with my phone and thank xiaomi because of it selling so many phones we have got such a great community on xda..
I have my pixel but still use my redmi 3s as it being my first phone.
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Someone actually know when would android nougat be available on this device?
its a shame, that they not even update the security patch level: still from 04/2017!!!
Otherwise:
i love MIUI - i don't need Nougat/Oreo...
everything work perfekt for me. But Performance and Akku is better in LOS and co...
yup I really hate xiaomi for not providing at least one android upgrade and for this ancient security patch. the moderators on miui forum are very rude one word against xiaomi and baaaam instant ban. They are bootlickers of xiaomi. I also hate ugly round green coloured notification toggles. and with every stable update new bloatwares and no option to remove them and also plenty full of ads
Never
HardlyRock said:
Someone actually know when would android nougat be available on this device?
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never
starboyvivek said:
Hey I just heard from digit.in that xiaomi is rolling MIUI 9.5 based on Android 7.0 to 30 of it's devices including our beloved redmi 3s series.If nothing went wrong, it would be released within few days.I think we can expect some more roms for our devices now. Cheers:laugh:
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Xiaomi is fooling us by upadting MIUI version. They are not updating Android version.
To everyone complaining about miui. It's true that it's a bad OS but not ****ty. As a matter of fact, MIUI is far more stable than any of the custom ROMs available. Xiaomi instead of bumping the android version from marshmallow, keeps increasing the stability with marshmallow which isn't bad. And those suffering from bloatware, use modded miui like Xiaomi.eu or miuipro.
Official MIUI with Android 7.0 or higher will NEVER come to the 3S. Just flash official LineagOS 14.1, is as stable as the stock ROM, you'll have decent notifications and no bloatware.
The MIUI update 9.5.1 was actually pulled back and made nightly due to critical bugs.
http://en.miui.com/thread-2160466-1-1.html
The update was on Android 6.0.1 (obviously) and with April Security patch ( 2017 not 2018 )
So in short use Custom ROMs and be happy with the minimal bugs and in return get solid performance and stability.
My recommendations : crDroid 3.8.5 OFFICIAL
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-3s/development/rom-crdroid-android-v3-8-t3694074
Hi, I was wondering for people who have own various Xiaomi phones. How are they on OS updates and Security updates?
HiddenSanctum said:
Hi, I was wondering for people who have own various Xiaomi phones. How are they on OS updates and Security updates?
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They have weekly ROM updates for those who want to opt-in to the developer builds.
Stable builds are at their own discretion.
They're not amazing, but better than many.
Security updates is another story. They're a bit slow with them, though I think that varies per device (Redmi is budget so gets low priority).
Poco is a new brand trying to go global though, so hopefully it's better than other devices (not sure how security updates are on the flagship Mi series)
After one or two months most of the people will shift to some or the other custom rom. So there won't be any problem with the security updates and normal OS upgrades. My Mi3 was released with KitKat now it's running Android Pie
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After one or two months most of the people will shift to some or the other custom rom. So there won't be any problem with the security updates and normal OS upgrades. My Mi3 was released with KitKat now it's running Android Pie
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I assume he's asking about *Xiaomi* updates, the official ROM. Of course you can just install custom ROM's to get latest updates unofficially - but that makes the question moot.
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Hi, I was wondering for people who have own various Xiaomi phones. How are they on OS updates and Security updates?
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Beta ROM updates are very fast both security n OS updates.
Stable updates within the same OS version are faster too. But OS upgrade need a bit waiting time as OS integrating to MIUI takes time.
Poco I expect faster updates due to treble support.
FYI:
Mix 2S of xiaomi already has Android 9 beta update.
very bad on stock roms stuck to old OS builds for mid range phones but on flagships very fast like blyat cyka rush b
I have used Redmi 2, Redmi 2 Prime, Redmi Note 3/4/5, Redmi 3S/prime and only Redmi 2 and Redmi Note 3 as my daily driver.
Those things taught the following:
Don't except updates from Xiaomi, not even security patches, although they have started providing patches on Note series but they are always late, so patches may arrive but not when you expect them.
You may not get the latest features even if you have the latest android version on your MIUI, why? because Xiaomi wants to provide same features to all the phones so that phones running on Kitkat will have the same feature as phone running on Oreo, this makes their software development easy, that means that the feature that you are using doesn't have native support and may be buggy and battery hogging.
There are two channels in MIUI - Beta Channel and StableChannel. Stable channel update is provided every 4-5 months or whenever they feel like or to fix a very important bug. Beta channel was previously bimonthly but I have heard that now, it's changed. Due to this, they don't fix bugs properly and instead introduce more bugs in the system
Their update size are generally 500MB-1.5GB but the fixes are things like: Calender icon changed, Button of some subforum in MIUI forum app changed, New Ringtones and every useless things, then in the end *Bug Fixes* but they don't mention which one. Out of every 10 beta updates only 1 or 2 updates are useful while others are just formality.
Now, note this, other companies give update to keep your phone running for longer amount of time. Xiaomi thinks different, they will wreck your device with every update they provide.
When I had Redmi Note 3, Beta channel was more better and more stable than the Stable channel, I am not lying go check the forums.
There is no major change in MIUI 7-9 the first major change I saw was MIUI6 - MIUI 7 after that all changes were just useless and they everytime just change notification shade style.
MIUI 10 - Notification shade now looks like a copy of iPhone and it's really very cheap act by Xiaomi, although their App switcher is somewhat cool.
Custom ROM:
Xiaomi phones works best with stock android and indeed has the best development support. But there are few catches.
Not all features work in custom ROM, you will have to leave one or two things if you want to use custom ROM.
The famous and best developers will not port VOLTE if their cell providers don't provide it
Camera (on Xiaomi phones) doesn't works well on custom ROMS.
Xiaomi does provide kernel but they don't provide a lot of proprietary codes and binaries that ensures smooth functioning of phones.
Don't buy the phone if you want to get updates unless it's Chinese, they do care about Chinese people unlike their global counterpart, or those people who develop global roms are arseheads.
All the above points can be confirmed on MIUI forums and XDA, if anyone says that even one of the point(s) is wrong, he is probably new in Xiaomi's world.
Redmi is the cheap line and they get late updates and bugs are not fixed properly. Mi is the expensive line of Xiaomi so they get proper update in first few months and after that they are also neglected. Since Poco is also a cheap but is a flagship, they will get good number of updates and fixes for few months then they will announce another phone and Poco will be neglected, and people who are saying that Poco has a different team may be wrong, I don't think Xioami will divide the team because internally it uses the same MIUI as others only launcher is different. For world Poco is a brand, for Xiaomi it's yet another phone.
Depends. My Mi3 got updated from kitkat to Marshmallow while my mi tab 1 was still stuck at kitkat with such a laggy interface until I flashed nougat roms with shiels blobs which made the tab as smooth as my oneplus 3. So MIUI sucks and they don't update android versions when they update their miui version. So buy a phone which has strong custom rom support. (Xiaomi models that are sold in India have strong dev support from what I have seen)
Thanks everyone for the info. That gives me a good idea.
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very bad on stock roms stuck to old OS builds for mid range phones but on flagships very fast like blyat cyka rush b
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Aye Aye Kurwa :laugh:
you forgot p90
Sandepp said:
Depends. My Mi3 got updated from kitkat to Marshmallow while my mi tab 1 was still stuck at kitkat with such a laggy interface until I flashed nougat roms with shiels blobs which made the tab as smooth as my oneplus 3. So MIUI sucks and they don't update android versions when they update their miui version. So buy a phone which has strong custom rom support. (Xiaomi models that are sold in India have strong dev support from what I have seen)
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Huh? You say it sucks but your Mi 3 got two major updates. How does that suck?
As for tablet, well it's a tablet. Android tablets were always poor selling and are now completely dead anyway (Chrome OS tablets are the future), can't compare phones to tablets.