Hey guys,
is there anywhere the technical documentation of the Snapdragon 650 SoC?
Or only customers of qualcomm get these datasheets?
Thanks in advance!
0ptr said:
Hey guys,
is there anywhere the technical documentation of the Snapdragon 650 SoC?
Or only customers of qualcomm get these datasheets?
Thanks in advance!
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Take a look here :https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/650
Well, I dont see there any datasheet/technical documentation...
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I'm now looking for the information in details about the coprocessor chip of Xperia 2014, but all I found is just the link of sony develop website and it's not enough for me. I wonder what kind of chip are they using as the coprocessor chip and does it has the same kind of function with the sensor hub chip inside S4/S5 phone? I checked the teardown websites but it do not contain this information. Please, anyone help me to check this chip !!!
blackmun said:
I'm now looking for the information in details about the coprocessor chip of Xperia 2014, but all I found is just the link of sony develop website and it's not enough for me. I wonder what kind of chip are they using as the coprocessor chip and does it has the same kind of function with the sensor hub chip inside S4/S5 phone? I checked the teardown websites but it do not contain this information. Please, anyone help me to check this chip !!!
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The phone uses a Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 baseband-apps processor. This combines the communications processor with the applications processor. The Samsung Galaxy S5 uses the same processor.
Is this what you are referring to?
Ylo said:
The phone uses a Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 baseband-apps processor. This combines the communications processor with the applications processor. The Samsung Galaxy S5 uses the same processor.
Is this what you are referring to?
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Not exactly, but thank for your help. I'm looking what kind of sensor hub/coprocessor chip that phone use.
Hey XDA Community,
after 3 1/2 years i'll retire my Galaxy S3 and get a new phone. So far so easy.
But as a Android enthusiast, i can't just buy a new phone, it has to be a phone which offers a good hardware base for using custom roms. And what i learned in the last 3 1/2 years is that, for example, Samsungs Exynos processors are NOT a good hardware base and rom developers hate Exynos processors.
So here we come to the magic question: Which is, from a developer view, the best, and what are acceptable processor brands which allow developers to develop a rom (more precisely the "device tree") which can make use of all of the processors features and its performance?
I think the following two brands are well known among all custom rom users and don't need to be commented:
Exynos -> as described above, "the Antichrist"
Qualcomm Snapdragon -> as far as i know the Holy Grail for developers
But what about the "underdogs"? How developer friendly are the following processor brands which now appear more and more in (flagship) phones from Huawei, Xiaomi and many other smaller phone manufacturers:
MediaTek (currently used by some Acer phones)
Hisilicon Kirin (for example used by the Huawei Ascend Mate 7, Huawei Honor 6 ...)
Nvidia Tegra (for example used by the new Google Pixel C tablet)
Intel Atom (for example used by the Asus ZenFone 2)
I'm excited about your experience with and recommendations for these "underdogs", especially if you are a developer!
Best regards,
Mika
Mediatek - Not developer friendly. Not easy to create custom ROMs for this brand of SoC.
Never heard of Hisilicon Kirin SoC. Not too sure about Nvidia Tegra.
No one else interessted in this issue?
Mika83AC said:
No one else interessted in this issue?
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Only qualcomm.
Hisilicon is a no go. No sources.
Sony + Qualcomm is the best choice.
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I added the "Intel Atom" processors to the list of choice. Perhaps a little late, but i think it's not unimportant.
Mika83AC said:
I added the "Intel Atom" processors to the list of choice. Perhaps a little late, but i think it's not unimportant.
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Intel is a no go as well since it's pretty new. As for your choice of SoC, it really depends on your needs. If you want to use a custom ROM, you're best off with Qualcomm. Otherwise most SoC will work fine for you. I own a Galaxy S6(Exynos SoC), unknown China phone(MediaTek SoC) and a HTC M8 HK edition(Qualcomm SoC). I can use them all just fine in my daily life.
Mika83AC said:
Hey XDA Community,
after 3 1/2 years i'll retire my Galaxy S3 and get a new phone. So far so easy.
But as a Android enthusiast, i can't just buy a new phone, it has to be a phone which offers a good hardware base for using custom roms. And what i learned in the last 3 1/2 years is that, for example, Samsungs Exynos processors are NOT a good hardware base and rom developers hate Exynos processors.
So here we come to the magic question: Which is, from a developer view, the best, and what are acceptable processor brands which allow developers to develop a rom (more precisely the "device tree") which can make use of all of the processors features and its performance?
I think the following two brands are well known among all custom rom users and don't need to be commented:
Exynos -> as described above, "the Antichrist"
Qualcomm Snapdragon -> as far as i know the Holy Grail for developers
But what about the "underdogs"? How developer friendly are the following processor brands which now appear more and more in (flagship) phones from Huawei, Xiaomi and many other smaller phone manufacturers:
MediaTek (currently used by some Acer phones)
Hisilicon Kirin (for example used by the Huawei Ascend Mate 7, Huawei Honor 6 ...)
Nvidia Tegra (for example used by the new Google Pixel C tablet)
Intel Atom (for example used by the Asus ZenFone 2)
I'm excited about your experience with and recommendations for these "underdogs", especially if you are a developer!
Best regards,
Mika
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If you want the most development, nexus devices will always have the best open source support. If not a nexus, stick with qualcomm . all the other socs have less open source support and therefore fewer developers willing to work on them. That doesn't mean you won't get custom ROMs (zenfone 2 is going well), but the pool of people able to do real development on it is tiny...
nVidia also releases open sourced images for it's devices...
check out
Cheers
dirlan2001 said:
nVidia also releases open sourced images for it's devices...
check out
Cheers
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nvidia = binary-hell
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popthosegaskets said:
Intel is a no go as well since it's pretty new. As for your choice of SoC, it really depends on your needs. If you want to use a custom ROM, you're best off with Qualcomm. Otherwise most SoC will work fine for you. I own a Galaxy S6(Exynos SoC), unknown China phone(MediaTek SoC) and a HTC M8 HK edition(Qualcomm SoC). I can use them all just fine in my daily life.
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My question is only meant to find the best choice/choices for using custom roms.
You're right, if just looking for a new phone, the SoC is not the most important to look for.
codeworkx said:
nvidia = binary-hell
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I guess this means "no fun for the devs"?
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I guess this means "no fun for the devs"?
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Depends on how you define "fun".
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codeworkx said:
.... Sony + Qualcomm is the best choice ...
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Hey @codeworkx, just one question regarding your sony recommendation.
What do you say about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/loss-drm-keys-t2890936
If Sony offers you good conditions / sources / binarys and whatever to develop a custom rom, but kills or at minumum downgrades many of the phones features when unlocking the bootloader (camera quality, screen quality, sound quality ...) would you buy this devices at all?
Or is there a way arround this bootloader mess which just isn't known in the thread linked above?
Regards,
Mika
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If it works, do not touch it! [emoji1]
If there is no official support from the manufacturer, I would not risk it. It's my advice.
fulgura91 said:
If it works, do not touch it! [emoji1]
If there is no official support from the manufacturer, I would not risk it. It's my advice.
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Thank you wery much it is working good
Please sign so Samsung can see this! Samsung needs to listen to what customers want. If you're on the same boat with me, please sign and share it to friends and/or other threads.
Ditch Exynos: http://chng.it/YN5nWtrv97
3yr android updates: http://chng.it/v4P5wTMp
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Please sign so Samsung can see this! Samsung needs to listen to what customers want. If you're on the same boat with me, please sign and share it to friends and/or other threads.
Ditch Exynos: http://chng.it/YN5nWtrv97
3yr android updates: http://chng.it/v4P5wTMp
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Exynos is better if unlocked.....
ExtremeGrief said:
Exynos is better if unlocked.....
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Not in this universe. Seriously, Snapdragon version is a lot better than Exynos version. More performance, more efficiency, possibility to have porting of common apps like Google Camera. It's a shame that Samsung is selling us premium smartphones of class "A" and class "B". In Europe we can only buy Exynos versions, we pay them the same of Snapdragon versions and we have less things. It's just a shame.
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Not in this universe. Seriously, Snapdragon version is a lot better than Exynos version. More performance, more efficiency, possibility to have porting of common apps like Google Camera. It's a shame that Samsung is selling us premium smartphones of class "A" and class "B". In Europe we can only buy Exynos versions, we pay them the same of Snapdragon versions and we have less things. It's just a shame.
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No, if you root the phone exynos is better.
An unlocked S9 withe exynos 9810 is better than an snapdragon 855 (s10)
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No, if you root the phone exynos is better.
An unlocked S9 withe exynos 9810 is better than an snapdragon 855 (s10)
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Yes and you lose everything. No Knox, no bank's services, no S Health. Definitely not convenient.
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No, if you root the phone exynos is better.
An unlocked S9 withe exynos 9810 is better than an snapdragon 855 (s10)
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Exectly how is it better by simply unlocking the bootloader and rooting? By doing what though?
The snapdragon variants don't need to be rooted to get there full potential they're just there, plus we will lose the function of some apps if we root, camera quality is also better on the 855 because of the processor, so by rooting my exynos how does it make it better?
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No, if you root the phone exynos is better.
An unlocked S9 withe exynos 9810 is better than an snapdragon 855 (s10)
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I'm sorry dude but you are totally wrong ! Exynos is shame compared to Snapdragon : perfs are lower, battery is worse, phone heats as hell... Definitely not a good variant of Samsung flagships ! Btw, in 2020, rooting is not as useful as when Samsung Experience / TouchWiz was running on Samsung phones... One UI has improved a lot over those old Samsung softwares, and that made root simply useless nowadays (my opinion)
Hey XDA, made the choice to buy an S9 Plus, amazing phone, love the hardware but a bit sad that I ended up with the Snapdragon based G965U1 model.
I wanted to know if it's possible to swap the logic board directly for one that has the Exynos chipset?
Any help appreciated kindly!
Nyanners said:
Hey XDA, made the choice to buy an S9 Plus, amazing phone, love the hardware but a bit sad that I ended up with the Snapdragon based G965U1 model.
I wanted to know if it's possible to swap the logic board directly for one that has the Exynos chipset?
Any help appreciated kindly!
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Hello, did you ever find out?