Heard Sumsung has two different versions. Anyone shed light on this for me?
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Question answered....just read the FAQ's dummy
rockky said:
Heard Sumsung has two different versions. Anyone shed light on this for me?
Thanks
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The UK models don't appear to be Tegra, and are rather the Exynos 4210 chip.
Hey XDA Community,
after 3 1/2 years i'll retire my Galaxy S3 and get a new phone. So far so easy.
But as a Android enthusiast, i can't just buy a new phone, it has to be a phone which offers a good hardware base for using custom roms. And what i learned in the last 3 1/2 years is that, for example, Samsungs Exynos processors are NOT a good hardware base and rom developers hate Exynos processors.
So here we come to the magic question: Which is, from a developer view, the best, and what are acceptable processor brands which allow developers to develop a rom (more precisely the "device tree") which can make use of all of the processors features and its performance?
I think the following two brands are well known among all custom rom users and don't need to be commented:
Exynos -> as described above, "the Antichrist"
Qualcomm Snapdragon -> as far as i know the Holy Grail for developers
But what about the "underdogs"? How developer friendly are the following processor brands which now appear more and more in (flagship) phones from Huawei, Xiaomi and many other smaller phone manufacturers:
MediaTek (currently used by some Acer phones)
Hisilicon Kirin (for example used by the Huawei Ascend Mate 7, Huawei Honor 6 ...)
Nvidia Tegra (for example used by the new Google Pixel C tablet)
Intel Atom (for example used by the Asus ZenFone 2)
I'm excited about your experience with and recommendations for these "underdogs", especially if you are a developer!
Best regards,
Mika
Mediatek - Not developer friendly. Not easy to create custom ROMs for this brand of SoC.
Never heard of Hisilicon Kirin SoC. Not too sure about Nvidia Tegra.
No one else interessted in this issue?
Mika83AC said:
No one else interessted in this issue?
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Only qualcomm.
Hisilicon is a no go. No sources.
Sony + Qualcomm is the best choice.
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I added the "Intel Atom" processors to the list of choice. Perhaps a little late, but i think it's not unimportant.
Mika83AC said:
I added the "Intel Atom" processors to the list of choice. Perhaps a little late, but i think it's not unimportant.
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Intel is a no go as well since it's pretty new. As for your choice of SoC, it really depends on your needs. If you want to use a custom ROM, you're best off with Qualcomm. Otherwise most SoC will work fine for you. I own a Galaxy S6(Exynos SoC), unknown China phone(MediaTek SoC) and a HTC M8 HK edition(Qualcomm SoC). I can use them all just fine in my daily life.
Mika83AC said:
Hey XDA Community,
after 3 1/2 years i'll retire my Galaxy S3 and get a new phone. So far so easy.
But as a Android enthusiast, i can't just buy a new phone, it has to be a phone which offers a good hardware base for using custom roms. And what i learned in the last 3 1/2 years is that, for example, Samsungs Exynos processors are NOT a good hardware base and rom developers hate Exynos processors.
So here we come to the magic question: Which is, from a developer view, the best, and what are acceptable processor brands which allow developers to develop a rom (more precisely the "device tree") which can make use of all of the processors features and its performance?
I think the following two brands are well known among all custom rom users and don't need to be commented:
Exynos -> as described above, "the Antichrist"
Qualcomm Snapdragon -> as far as i know the Holy Grail for developers
But what about the "underdogs"? How developer friendly are the following processor brands which now appear more and more in (flagship) phones from Huawei, Xiaomi and many other smaller phone manufacturers:
MediaTek (currently used by some Acer phones)
Hisilicon Kirin (for example used by the Huawei Ascend Mate 7, Huawei Honor 6 ...)
Nvidia Tegra (for example used by the new Google Pixel C tablet)
Intel Atom (for example used by the Asus ZenFone 2)
I'm excited about your experience with and recommendations for these "underdogs", especially if you are a developer!
Best regards,
Mika
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If you want the most development, nexus devices will always have the best open source support. If not a nexus, stick with qualcomm . all the other socs have less open source support and therefore fewer developers willing to work on them. That doesn't mean you won't get custom ROMs (zenfone 2 is going well), but the pool of people able to do real development on it is tiny...
nVidia also releases open sourced images for it's devices...
check out
Cheers
dirlan2001 said:
nVidia also releases open sourced images for it's devices...
check out
Cheers
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nvidia = binary-hell
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popthosegaskets said:
Intel is a no go as well since it's pretty new. As for your choice of SoC, it really depends on your needs. If you want to use a custom ROM, you're best off with Qualcomm. Otherwise most SoC will work fine for you. I own a Galaxy S6(Exynos SoC), unknown China phone(MediaTek SoC) and a HTC M8 HK edition(Qualcomm SoC). I can use them all just fine in my daily life.
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My question is only meant to find the best choice/choices for using custom roms.
You're right, if just looking for a new phone, the SoC is not the most important to look for.
codeworkx said:
nvidia = binary-hell
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I guess this means "no fun for the devs"?
Mika83AC said:
I guess this means "no fun for the devs"?
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Depends on how you define "fun".
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codeworkx said:
.... Sony + Qualcomm is the best choice ...
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Hey @codeworkx, just one question regarding your sony recommendation.
What do you say about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/loss-drm-keys-t2890936
If Sony offers you good conditions / sources / binarys and whatever to develop a custom rom, but kills or at minumum downgrades many of the phones features when unlocking the bootloader (camera quality, screen quality, sound quality ...) would you buy this devices at all?
Or is there a way arround this bootloader mess which just isn't known in the thread linked above?
Regards,
Mika
Hey guys,
is there anywhere the technical documentation of the Snapdragon 650 SoC?
Or only customers of qualcomm get these datasheets?
Thanks in advance!
0ptr said:
Hey guys,
is there anywhere the technical documentation of the Snapdragon 650 SoC?
Or only customers of qualcomm get these datasheets?
Thanks in advance!
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Take a look here :https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/650
Well, I dont see there any datasheet/technical documentation...
I would like to know how to get the FM radio working on a rooted Qualcomm S7 Edge, the sm-g9350, Hong Kong variant.
I've rooted on Aurora ROM from a chinese site, and it doesn't have what's needed for FM. I can't get OTA updates as knox is 0x1. I've poured over the AP7 T Mobile update that enabled FM for the USA S7 Edge Qualcomm variants. I've found some radio jar files, some lib files, but I'm at a loss as to how to get FM working.
How do I do this? It's the Qualcomm msm8996 chip, which runs on some other devices that have fm.
Can someone with knowledge on this please work with me or help me in getting this working?
Just because it has the same chip doesn't mean it has the radio antenna or chip for it. You might want to find out if the hardware is even there first.
My s5 mini duos has same.
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zelendel said:
Just because it has the same chip doesn't mean it has the radio antenna or chip for it. You might want to find out if the hardware is even there first.
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I've Googled and found it should have fm. How can i verify it? It is the same S7 Qualcomm sd820 as US variants, and they have fm enabled, as of a recent firmware update. Hong kong hasn't released this update, so I want to know where in the firmware I need to look.
zelendel said:
Just because it has the same chip doesn't mean it has the radio antenna or chip for it. You might want to find out if the hardware is even there first.
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The hardware is there. It's a replica of the US variants.
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The hardware is there. It's a replica of the US variants.
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I don't know about this specific phone, but "the hardware is there" may not necessarily be accurate. The phone may have say a wifi module with integrated bluetooth and fm-radio, BUT for some of these functions, discrete components are required. Like say a few resistors, capacitors and stuff. So it is possible they have omitted that in the design and simply disabled that functionality.
Hey XDA, made the choice to buy an S9 Plus, amazing phone, love the hardware but a bit sad that I ended up with the Snapdragon based G965U1 model.
I wanted to know if it's possible to swap the logic board directly for one that has the Exynos chipset?
Any help appreciated kindly!
Nyanners said:
Hey XDA, made the choice to buy an S9 Plus, amazing phone, love the hardware but a bit sad that I ended up with the Snapdragon based G965U1 model.
I wanted to know if it's possible to swap the logic board directly for one that has the Exynos chipset?
Any help appreciated kindly!
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Hello, did you ever find out?