Is it possible to port Android Wear 2.0 from emulator image to a G Watch? A developer ported the ZenWatch 2 system to the Gear 2 Neo so it might be possible to port from LG Watch Urbane 2 LTE, remove all features that are not compatible (SIM, WiFi, etc...) and make a ROM for G Watch. Anyone with experience here?
Developer ab123321 has ported Android Wear 2.0 from the LG G Watch R to Dory: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72738902&postcount=342
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konradit said:
Is it possible to port Android Wear 2.0 from emulator image to a G Watch? A developer ported the ZenWatch 2 system to the Gear 2 Neo so it might be possible to port from LG Watch Urbane 2 LTE, remove all features that are not compatible (SIM, WiFi, etc...) and make a ROM for G Watch. Anyone with experience here?
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This is definitely doable, just not sure how things work exactly with the watches as far as partitions go. Maybe some of the previous ROM devs on here can help out with that bit, I am new to supporting wear devices. If we can get the blobs ironed out it should be pretty easy, we should have part of a device tree from TWRP.
@DespairFactor Hi, nice to see you around here!
Do you have the G Watch? I can provide anything you need. I have 6.0.1 Wear, root (read only /system) and TWRP 3.0.2-0. Let's just wait for a square watch to receive N preview, or maybe port from emulator image? Most people believe the G Watch will not get updated due to not having a crown button, a crown button is crucial for Android Wear since it now acts as a back function, instead of the traditional swipe to left. Also the G Watch has now 3 major OS versions (KK, LP, MM) so it's not a surprise Google abandon it now, following Nexus update cycle. The watch is incredibly useful even after the years. @invisiblek made a very good kernel for G Watch, maybe he can help. As far as the partitions go, I will reply later with a command output.
Also I can make a little app to perform a back command using swipe to left gesture like most Android Wear unofficial launchers do
DespairFactor said:
This is definitely doable, just not sure how things work exactly with the watches as far as partitions go. Maybe some of the previous ROM devs on here can help out with that bit, I am new to supporting wear devices. If we can get the blobs ironed out it should be pretty easy, we should have part of a device tree from TWRP.
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See my previous answer.
Here is everything about partitions: https://gist.github.com/KonradIT/e2372ac3d74e671a3e98e8d3ecb93676
System dump: (adb pulling, will upload later)
About porting from an emulator image, are there cases of stable ports from Android emulator? I have a square android wear 280x280 cloned G Watch emulator instance running Android Wear N, I can also upload it.
Google released N Wear Developer Preview for the Huawei Watch and LG G Watch Urbane 2gen LTE, both round watches. For the G watch, a square watch is needed. Google will probably release a developer image for Asus ZenWatch 2 or Sony Smartwatch 3 (or even Samsung Gear Live??) down the road. The Asus ZenWatch 1 also does not have a crown, making it less likely to receive Android Wear 2.0 N.
G Watch and ZenWatch 2 have pretty similar specs (same SoC, same graphics module, same RAM, same internal storage space):
G Watch: http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g_watch_w100-7718.php
ZenWatch 2: http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenwatch_2_wi501q-7689.php
(G watch does not have a speaker btw, ZenWatch 2 does!)
Regarding TWRP, build here (it works wonders): http://forum.xda-developers.com/g-w...recovery-twrp-2-7-1-0-touch-recovery-t2827887
I personally love my G Watch a lot, looks like I'm not upgrading this year!
konradit said:
See my previous answer.
Here is everything about partitions: https://gist.github.com/KonradIT/e2372ac3d74e671a3e98e8d3ecb93676
System dump: (adb pulling, will upload later)
About porting from an emulator image, are there cases of stable ports from Android emulator? I have a square android wear 280x280 cloned G Watch emulator instance running Android Wear N, I can also upload it.
Google released N Wear Developer Preview for the Huawei Watch and LG G Watch Urbane 2gen LTE, both round watches. For the G watch, a square watch is needed. Google will probably release a developer image for Asus ZenWatch 2 or Sony Smartwatch 3 (or even Samsung Gear Live??) down the road. The Asus ZenWatch 1 also does not have a crown, making it less likely to receive Android Wear 2.0 N.
G Watch and ZenWatch 2 have pretty similar specs (same SoC, same graphics module, same RAM, same internal storage space):
G Watch: http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g_watch_w100-7718.php
ZenWatch 2: http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenwatch_2_wi501q-7689.php
(G watch does not have a speaker btw, ZenWatch 2 does!)
Regarding TWRP, build here (it works wonders): http://forum.xda-developers.com/g-w...recovery-twrp-2-7-1-0-touch-recovery-t2827887
I personally love my G Watch a lot, looks like I'm not upgrading this year!
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They generally will not expand the preview to other devices, they don't ever do it. Also, the OS likely has the images and stuff for the square devices in case others want to port it. I can see Sony doing it themselves and releasing it, but not ASUS. Regardless, I would need to pull apart the G watch system dump for vendor files and to rip apart the developer preview images to see what we can do with it. Chances are it'll take quite a bit of work, so I would be open to having others jump in to help out. Perhaps this should turn into a github org/hangouts chat.
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They generally will not expand the preview to other devices, they don't ever do it. Also, the OS likely has the images and stuff for the square devices in case others want to port it. I can see Sony doing it themselves and releasing it, but not ASUS. Regardless, I would need to pull apart the G watch system dump for vendor files and to rip apart the developer preview images to see what we can do with it. Chances are it'll take quite a bit of work, so I would be open to having others jump in to help out. Perhaps this should turn into a github org/hangouts chat.
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Do you have the G Watch? I forgot my cradle and I am pushing the image via bluetooth, so it will take some hours. Any other partition you need? My emulator image is x86, download armeabi v7 now! (https://dl.google.com/android/repository/sys-img/android-wear/sysimg_wear_armeabi-v7a-N_r01.zip if anyone needs it)
konradit said:
Do you have the G Watch? I forgot my cradle and I am pushing the image via bluetooth, so it will take some hours. Any other partition you need? My emulator image is x86, download armeabi v7 now! (https://dl.google.com/android/repository/sys-img/android-wear/sysimg_wear_armeabi-v7a-N_r01.zip if anyone needs it)
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I do have one, I also have a Moto 360.
DespairFactor said:
This is definitely doable, just not sure how things work exactly with the watches as far as partitions go. Maybe some of the previous ROM devs on here can help out with that bit, I am new to supporting wear devices. If we can get the blobs ironed out it should be pretty easy, we should have part of a device tree from TWRP.
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DespairFactor said:
I do have one, I also have a Moto 360.
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Cool, here is a folder with everything: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-CbH9Yv1OUWM2tHdGRtdkliSkE&usp=sharing
/armeabi-v7a are the Android Wear N emulator files
/G_Watch_port_armeabiv7.avd is a folder with settings from emulator which is similar to G Watch in terms of specs
/G_Watch_port_armeabiv7.ini is a file for emulator
/system_g_watch_mm.img is a system dump from G Watch with the latest Wear OS (MM)
So, what is left to start porting?
Gonna try my skills over there. Let's see what we can get with our lovely G Watch. @konradit there's as much info/files as we need I think. I'm starting porting this weekend.
konradit said:
Cool, here is a folder with everything: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-CbH9Yv1OUWM2tHdGRtdkliSkE&usp=sharing
/armeabi-v7a are the Android Wear N emulator files
/G_Watch_port_armeabiv7.avd is a folder with settings from emulator which is similar to G Watch in terms of specs
/G_Watch_port_armeabiv7.ini is a file for emulator
/system_g_watch_mm.img is a system dump from G Watch with the latest Wear OS (MM)
So, what is left to start porting?
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I will have to look when I can get acces to drive, I don't have access here
DespairFactor said:
I will have to look when I can get acces to drive, I don't have access here
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Are the files useful? I am doing the swipe left to back app too.
bemolx said:
Gonna try my skills over there. Let's see what we can get with our lovely G Watch. @konradit there's as much info/files as we need I think. I'm starting porting this weekend.
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Nice, please post updates here
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Nice, please post updates here
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Okay, I will. No problem
you made my day if you can port it
I am hoping the LG G watch can be compatible with Android Wear 2.0.
ericdabbs said:
I am hoping the LG G watch can be compatible with Android Wear 2.0.
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Not supported, it has been discontinued: https://twitter.com/LGUSAMobile/status/735246368609083392
konradit said:
Not supported, it has been discontinued: https://twitter.com/LGUSAMobile/status/735246368609083392
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Well you see it does say jk so I think he's joking.. And besides that doesn't mean anything
goast said:
Well you see it does say jk so I think he's joking.. And besides that doesn't mean anything
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I believe he/she was serious. I think JK is initials of the customer rep who wrote that reply.
xymic said:
I believe he/she was serious. I think JK is initials of the customer rep who wrote that reply.
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Well that's awesome. We all have opinions and are allowed to have them. Why wouldn't they include it? Because of one review that says something about a button? All software companies deny any info about updates, so nothing to see here.
DespairFactor said:
I will have to look when I can get acces to drive, I don't have access here
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Any update on this?
So as i undderstand there is a speaker in the moto 360 2, and today i recieved an android wear update that listed speaker usage for calls and sounds as one of the changes, anyone figure out how to enable this on the watch?
AFAIK, the Moto 360 2015 does NOT have speakers...
From a quick google search:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/107029/p/2815,9542
bossman137 said:
So as i undderstand there is a speaker in the moto 360 2, and today i recieved an android wear update that listed speaker usage for calls and sounds as one of the changes, anyone figure out how to enable this on the watch?
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How exactly did you find out that there is a speaker, since there isn't any?
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Pnevma said:
AFAIK, the Moto 360 2015 does NOT have speakers...
From a quick google search:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/107029/p/2815,9542
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that is what the spec say, i haven't found any tear down (and i'm not willing to sacrifice my own) but i'm still curious what the slot below the microphone does?
Android Wear is completely independent from the Moto 360 2nd gen. It's just the app that allows ANY Android Wear device (Moto 360, LG Urbane, Huawei Watch, etc) to share information between the phone and device. That spec in the update was only referring to some sort of fix or tweak for those Android Wear devices who DO have speakers.
The Moto 360 2nd gen (and 1st gen) does not have built-in speakers, so this change in the update does not apply to our watches. Simply put, without a speaker, no update in the world could magically make your watch produce sound. Lol
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willumpie82 said:
that is what the spec say, i haven't found any tear down (and i'm not willing to sacrifice my own) but i'm still curious what the slot below the microphone does?
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Since the band now connect to lugs instead of the phone body, that slot beneath the microphone is there to assist in opening the device. It is not a speaker outlet.
Besides, it would really be awkward to talk to a watch in public XD
I don't even use my phone on handsfree when in public.
I saw my brother do it a few times with his Apple Watch (phone conversation that is). It wasn't exactly clear and easy, but it wasn't terrible either.
If my watch had a speaker I'd probably use it in a pinch if I couldn't get my phone out right away or I was a maybe in a different room in my house. But then I'd probably only do it long enough to answer the call and tell the caller to hold on while I went to the other room to get my phone.
At work I usually have my BT headset on so I wouldn't use it then... well, except for days like today when I forgot to grab it, dangnabbit!