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as the title says, after rooting, i am unable to check for any firmware updates. i realize it doesnt mater right now as there is noithing out right now, but i like to check often just in case tmobile releases something or samsung. when i go to check for updates by selecting settings>software update and then a warning message pops up: DM initalisation is not ready, Check network or SIM card
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated
I was about to ask this same question, and yes i am also rooted. Just wanted to post that you are not alone on this one.
thats good to know, i was beginning to wonder if i was the only one having this problem, for now i unrooted and flashed back to stock using odin, but i miss having root and some of the apps i was using. I am not willing to give up the ability to check for new firmware though as my source at work told me that updates are coming in the next 2 weeks and that we should be getting a text message about them in the next week or so. and just so people know, it wasnt a tmobile customer service rep, i work for deutsche telekom so we here things first usually.
I have this same issue, where I'm unable to check for firmware updates. I am not rooted though... I just bought the phone today and when I click the 'Software Updates' option it says 'No firmware' in a pop-up message. This problem is not only associated with rooted devices.
joshuapurcell said:
I have this same issue, where I'm unable to check for firmware updates. I am not rooted though... I just bought the phone today and when I click the 'Software Updates' option it says 'No firmware' in a pop-up message. This problem is not only associated with rooted devices.
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Read the first post again... yours is the normal message that is displayed when no firmware update is available...
Also, I'm rooted and the update seems to be working fine.
I'm rooted and it pops no firmware.
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If I flash back to stock it works fine when I use odin to go back to stock, but if I reroot it says the same thing. Nothing ever stops it from saying what I posted in the OP. I need some help funding a fix or ok won't be able to get the froyo update when it releases.
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If I use oclf to root and apply the fix, then unroot using oclf, will the factory ota not work?
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Duuude don't worry about it. People will post ROM clockwork backups of the froyo release / stock odin flashes of it / etc.
Anyone will be able to update, however they do so... And just wait til you hear about it THEN unroot and update
yep i'm rooted to and it checks for filmware just fine .
im rooted and get the no firmware message
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im rooted and get the no firmware message
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... *sigh* Because there isn't a UPDATE for the Vibrant.
IF I ROOT, WILL I GET OTA UPDATES?
Yes. Rooting will not prevent this, unless you flash a custom ROM that will block receiving the OTA update. If you do receive and download the OTA update, you will lose root. Typically within hours of the OTA becoming available, thanks to some fine XDA folks you can get the update WITH root. You would simply need to download and flash the update like a normal ROM.
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Rooting doesn't mess with your OTA updates, when you update with the OTA it will remove your ROOT. The only way to interfere with OTA's are flashing custom ROMs.
But you cannot get the ota update when it releases if the check for update option under settings is not working. All I want to know is why the firmware update option is broken and how to fix it.
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When I first got my phone I got the message Check network or SIM card. I rooted the phone and still got that same message. I restored to origanal and got the message'No firmware'. Now again I am getting Check network or SIM card.
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But you cannot get the ota update when it releases if the check for update option under settings is not working. All I want to know is why the firmware update option is broken and how to fix it.
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It seems like your phone was more than just rooted. What method did you use to root?
Note: Yeah, the "No Firmware" message is the normal message you get if there's no update available, aka, your phone is searching for and/or receiving OTA updates just fine.
Leoslick said:
If I use oclf to root and apply the fix, then unroot using oclf, will the factory ota not work?
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This was my plan. Although, I'm reading posts that imply that even though a phone is rooted, if the user hasn't flashed a custom ROM, they'll still get the OTA update, and getting the OTA update will unroot the phone.
When this happens, root-necessary apps like ryanza's lag fix, titanium backup and android system info won't work anymore right? Will they need to be uninstalled and reinstalled? Or will I just need to re-root?
Sorry, I'm new to Android and don't know the typical process stock ROM root users go through with OTA updates.
Genuinely, thanks for any feedback.
Yes I wanna know this too. I'm holding off on getting apps for root only because I think they might mess something up. Also I thought I read set cpu spook might mess up the vibrant running oclf. Anyone?
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Hello guys i've been reading the former topics about the update for a while and still couldn't update using the ways mentioned there.
Anyway just check for update this morning through wireless and BANG there is an update available it even gave me the choice to use the computer or to do the downloading though wireless and I did it was more than 8megabytes
The thing is nothing changed no new apps the software is still 2.1-update 1
Can you get root?
Actually I don't root so never tried and never will.
Sorry
yahona3 said:
Actually I don't root so never tried and never will.
Sorry
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Well.. I was going to say a good way to check if you have the latest update is to try and root with Z4root or something.. if it doesn't work.. good chance you are on the new update. (what have you got against rooting anyway? sounds like the new update is perfect for you.. because it hates root too.. )
:-D I have nothing against root I don't even know what it does.
It just I have a really bad history in messing with software ,i lost a very important phone to me because I messed with it. W980
i updated via OTA a couple of minutes ago. The phone was rooted and still is...
I don't want to do thus update and I accidentally selected OTA now I have a notification is there a way to remove it
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Go to 'Setup -> Application -> Active Services (Translated menu)' and remove one of the running services. I've forgot the exact name as I already removed it. Now open the notification area (scroll the thing at the top down) and select the update. Now select cancel.
Something like that. I've done that 2 day's ago, so I don't know exactly anymore.
Mine said that it has the latest software version. UK firmware.
Someone else uses UK Fw that updated your phone please show me how to do that.
Thanks.
Does anyone know where is the downloaded update stored ?
Don't want to update right now but it is going to remind me in 3 hours, and is there a way to stop the update process or do a factory reset will it skip the update?
cixtim3 said:
Does anyone know where is the downloaded update stored ?
Don't want to update right now but it is going to remind me in 3 hours, and is there a way to stop the update process or do a factory reset will it skip the update?
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Just connect to the pc and update with Kies, or flash the new rom with Odin.
Just wanted to skip the update completely, so how to avoid update ?
cixtim3 said:
Just wanted to skip the update completely, so how to avoid update ?
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If a box appears that an update is available just press no, look in settings, about the phone, software update and you can disable fota updates.
Did you try removing the battery in between the update ?
It stopped popping up after i installed a ROM. I refuse to install it since i did it before and my phone would not root until i got an exchange from sprint and didn't install it the second time.
I didnt realize at that time, that the update he was doing would block root. If I factory reset, will it put me back to pre-update so that when i boot up the phone I can root it first thing? Thanks for any help.
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I didnt realize at that time, that the update he was doing would block root. If I factory reset, will it put me back to pre-update so that when i boot up the phone I can root it first thing? Thanks for any help.
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From what I have read the answer is NO. I think you are SOL until a new root method is found.
So basically all I can do is take it back, pay 35 buck restock fee, get another phone and root as soon as I get it setup and not install that update?
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So basically all I can do is take it back, pay 35 buck restock fee, get another phone and root as soon as I get it setup and not install that update?
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I believe that is your only option, yes. To my knowledge, there is no way to revert back and you're stuck. Unless you'd like to just keep your current phone and wait until someone roots the new update, but your only other option would be to exchange it.
In your opinion, do you think the devs will find a way to crack this update and obtain root?
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So basically all I can do is take it back, pay 35 buck restock fee, get another phone and root as soon as I get it setup and not install that update?
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Correct. That is *IF* the new phone doesn't already have the update installed, or the sales rep doesn't install the update while activating it and getting it ready for you.
Rumor has it that they already have root, but aren't releasing how until they can find a way to also unlock/patch the boot loader. They are said to be afraid of having Samsung/Verizon block this root method before they can use it to unlock the boot loader. Will they ever get it? Will they ever release the root method? That is anyone's guess.
So for now, it looks like the 16gig DEV edition direct from Samsung, without warranty, is the only option if you definitely want to root and flash custom roms now and "forever". But is it still available? or did they sell out yet?
Spoke with my rep and he told me bring it back, exchange it and all he will do is activate it and hand it right over to me and will not install the update. Now once I do get the new phone without the update and obtain root, can or will that verizon update still try and come thru and ask me to install it?
You can block the OTA updater with titanium backup. I'm not on a stock ROM, so I don't remember the updater app name.
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That sucks. You gotta keep your eye on those reps :cyclops:
i never let any sales person set up, activate or even power up any phone i buy. if they chose to do so i cancel the order and buy on line where it comes sealed. i always tell them i'm in a rush and i'll take care of activating it afterwards. only one has ever refused and i told him to cancel the sale since he decided to open a product i purchase without my consent. he did get me a new one after that.
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So basically all I can do is take it back, pay 35 buck restock fee, get another phone and root as soon as I get it setup and not install that update?
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That is assuming the new phone you get isn't updated b4 u turn it on...
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Ok, got a new S4 and this worked !!
Ok, everyone I got a new S4 and activated at Verizon which it immediately started download pretty much as soon as it was turned on. I immediately disabled mobile data, turned it off and then took out the sim card. Once I got home, I hooked this baby up to my PC and rooted...success, finally! I used the I545 all-in-one-root tool which includes OUDS clockwork. http://www.droid-life.com/2013/05/30/all-in-one-root-tool-released-for-verizon-galaxy-s4/
My questions is I have installed ROM Manager so that I could do a backup, but when I first open ROM manager, it says I need to install a custom recovery even though I have OUDS clockwork built in. Do I need to install clockwork from within the ROM manager app? I can reboot into recovery, but its the OUDS "generic" recovery, for lack of a better word. Is that recovery good to go for backing up, flashing another ROM or do I need to use the ROM manager to install CWM from with the app itself? Hope this makes sense. Thanks everyone!!
I'm a VZW rep and every time I activate a new S4, the update automatically starts downloading and there's NO way to tell it to "differ" to a different time.
Trust me, its not OUR fault. It just happens sadly :-\
I too hope devs get a way to root past this OTA because I have friends that would like me to root for them, but the OTA just muscles its way through.
I haven't upgraded anyone to an S4 today, but will report back with more info when I do. I'm pretty sure that after we activate the phone, the download starts and the notification just sits there until you click it (then it updates) or if you restart the device, it may force the update. I'll test on my next customer and let y'all know the real answer
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dopediculous said:
I'm a VZW rep and every time I activate a new S4, the update automatically starts downloading and there's NO way to tell it to "differ" to a different time.
Trust me, its not OUR fault. It just happens sadly :-\
I too hope devs get a way to root past this OTA because I have friends that would like me to root for them, but the OTA just muscles its way through.
I haven't upgraded anyone to an S4 today, but will report back with more info when I do. I'm pretty sure that after we activate the phone, the download starts and the notification just sits there until you click it (then it updates) or if you restart the device, it may force the update. I'll test on my next customer and let y'all know the real answer
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My experience with the update is that it will tell you the download is ready and at that point you can postpone it to a later time. It even gives you a little wheel to select when to install the update. The phone is still completely rootable during that time. When the notification comes back you can again postpone until a later time.
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My experience with the update is that it will tell you the download is ready and at that point you can postpone it to a later time. It even gives you a little wheel to select when to install the update. The phone is still completely rootable during that time. When the notification comes back you can again postpone until a later time.
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That's what happened to me. During the initial setup it was downloading the OTA update. As soon as I could, I enabled "Airplane mode" to kill the update, but no, it had already downloaded and asked if it was OK to install.
I deferred it until 1:00 AM and immediately started the rooting process. Got root, installed SuperSU Pro and enabled Survival mode. I also installed Voodoo OTA RootKeeper, but that wasn't necessary.
So I'm now running stock with superuser available and protected. Unfortunately, no custom recovery.
Since I have been doing smartphones, I have NEVER updated, I wait until someone has tried it. and even then, I wait for a dev to cook it up. And everyone better hope you do not have to do any replacements thru the carrier, you WILL get a bootloader locked device with the newest release, NO bootloader fix.
Need to find alternatives.
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That's what happened to me. During the initial setup it was downloading the OTA update. As soon as I could, I enabled "Airplane mode" to kill the update, but no, it had already downloaded and asked if it was OK to install.
I deferred it until 1:00 AM and immediately started the rooting process. Got root, installed SuperSU Pro and enabled Survival mode. I also installed Voodoo OTA RootKeeper, but that wasn't necessary.
So I'm now running stock with superuser available and protected. Unfortunately, no custom recovery.
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That's great news to hear! Unfortunately my location was dead yesterday and I didn't sell any S4's. Just stupid idonts to bubblegum chewing pop tarts and grandparents. Ugh *face palm
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brw9100 said:
My experience with the update is that it will tell you the download is ready and at that point you can postpone it to a later time. It even gives you a little wheel to select when to install the update. The phone is still completely rootable during that time. When the notification comes back you can again postpone until a later time.
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Yeah, I ordered my S4 online, and it let me defer the update. It downloaded, then said ready to install would you like to install now or later? I set the timer to 12 hours, rooted, installed recovery, flashed AOKP, and bam, no worrying about OTA updates.
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hondaboi20002 said:
Spoke with my rep and he told me bring it back, exchange it and all he will do is activate it and hand it right over to me and will not install the update. Now once I do get the new phone without the update and obtain root, can or will that verizon update still try and come thru and ask me to install it?
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What I suggest is what I did.
Do not place the sim into the phone.
My phone came from Wirefly.com without the sim card installed.
Power up without sim card, boot directly to download mode, connect to pc usb port, run Odin, follow rooting procedure.
Only after you freeze SDM using titanium backup, should you consider inserting the sim card.
Also while on wifi samsung will ask to install update, say no.
P. S. I installed samsung drivers, and Odin. I did not install kies which I have read also tries to install the update.
has anyone lost root updating to current this month? i know my v10 became an ad filled, stock navbar, paper weight after it's last forced update.
I'm curious about this as well.
I finally got around to rooting my Stylo 3 Plus for the first time over the weekend, after closely following the developments in this forum for the past 6 months. It took a lot of trial and error and reflashing of TWRP before I got the timing down right, but I finally got it rooted (using Magisk 15.2).
And of course, luck would have it that within a few hours of my rooting success, a new system update notification (which I had never heard of until now!), pops up and asks me to restart to install it. I am using Titanium Backup to force stop the particular Google service involved, which makes the notification go away and I can reboot without it upgrading. But it always come back within 24 hours or so.
Has anyone installed this update yet (MP45010f) and successfully re-rooted? I'm currently using Magisk 15.2 with systemless hosts, Ad-Away, and Xposed with Greenify & MinMinGuard enabled. I would welcome any advice on how to proceed after the update to restore root and continue using Ad-Away, Xposed, etc. Or even how to disable the update notification for good so I can stay on MP45010e a while longer.
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has anyone lost root updating to current this month?
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I Installed the 10f update.
On the download page the date was listed as March something.
While updating with LG Bridge, it was listed as Feb 22.
After it was installed (update 10f for LGMP450) the security patch date was listed as Feb 01.
I rooted and installed TWRP (and removed RCTD). Everything seems fine.
I am reverting back to my old install. Because i have made a million little tweaks, that would take forever to redo on a new install. I just wanted to see if everything still works (and it appears it does).
PS - The first time i updated this phone (back around Oct2017) the LG Bridge erased my SD storage. This time it left all of my installed apps in place. Also, this appears to simply be a google security update. No firmware changes from LG.
I thought a system update wouldn't happen if youv done rooted your phone the only way back on the day was to reflash stock ROM to get the update
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I thought a system update wouldn't happen if youv done rooted your phone the only way back on the day was to reflash stock ROM to get the update
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yeah thats what i did was revert back to stock so u can update then i update it then re rooted my phone
if you update using the LG Bridge computer program, it will update a rooted phone. but you will need to reroot afterward.
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I Installed the 10f update.
On the download page the date was listed as March something.
While updating with LG Bridge, it was listed as Feb 22.
After it was installed (update 10f for LGMP450) the security patch date was listed as Feb 01.
I rooted and installed TWRP (and removed RCTD). Everything seems fine.
I am reverting back to my old install. Because i have made a million little tweaks, that would take forever to redo on a new install. I just wanted to see if everything still works (and it appears it does).
PS - The first time i updated this phone (back around Oct2017) the LG Bridge erased my SD storage. This time it left all of my installed apps in place. Also, this appears to simply be a google security update. No firmware changes from LG.
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Thanks for testing this out. If you don't mind me asking, which method do you use to root? And do you also use Xposed?
To anyone else who might know, does everything Magisk- or Xposed-related get removed by the security updates (frameworks, modules, configs, etc)? Just trying to get an idea how many of my modules I should expect to reinstall and configure from scratch if I decide to update from 10e to 10f.
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I thought a system update wouldn't happen if youv done rooted your phone the only way back on the day was to reflash stock ROM to get the update
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Yeah, I thought this was kind of weird too. I've never used LG Bridge to update. The notification just appeared on my phone shortly after rooting.
Is Xposed only for Magisk or can it be used on the rom, if so can I get a link to how to do so
LG Bridge
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root?
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Im using Magisk 16.1 (no Xposed) and TWRP 3.2.1
I have not run into any issues.
It appears to simply be a security patch update.
I doubt it should cause any new headaches.
The original method still works to reroot and reinstall TWRP.
Using the LG Bridge program is about as easy as an update can be. You install it on your computer, plug your phone into the computer, and click "update" on the computer program. Its all automatic.