Hi everyone,
I'm currently ussing the back-to-n00t v9 ROM (KitKat) together with Boeffla Kernel for a pretty long time. It was good at the beginning, although the rom had a few bugs (like the mobile data button not working sometimes and roaming mode disabling when disabling data causing roaming warnings). But for some time already, I'm getting kinda frustrated. The phone likes to lag sometimes, like when going out of some app to the home screen and everything loads again causing a terrible lag, or all the apps close in the background. Also many times when I want to unlock the phone I have to wait a few seconds because nothing works (can't draw the pattern). I'm looking for some simple ROM (not any Marshmallow stuff etc, I want to maintain stability and performance). I'd love to get some better performance, without lagging and having problems with the keyboard (like it's not showing because of low RAM or stuff like that). I'd also like to get some good battery life althought this isn't that of a priority because I have 2 batteries.
I don't want to flash Cyanogenmod because I want to keep the TouchWiz camera and stuff.
Which ROM would you suggest me? I saw some website recommending Revolutionary S5, although I don't like the idea of trying to make an old phone like the some new model, they claim it's super smooth and optimised. Is that true? I don't want to waste any more RAM because of some ****ty features from S5 that I'll never use.
Thanks in advance! Hope you can help me.
same here, I use RR + boeffla but it is sucking one and half battery a day, inactivity battery consume is the same as Whatsapp I use a lot, it seems to be active when not active.
Same problem with Lineage 14.1
Best ROM for me was a stock rooted ROM with unnecessary apps disabled.
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Hey,
I'm very new to rooting flashing and all of this but I learn fast.
Originally came here because I was disappointed with my S3 and how it is working so I googled, knew a thing or two about rooting, rooted almost a week ago then a day after I was flashing my very first rom.
My first rom was S4 revolution v12 I liked it but after a while - not very long while - I have experienced lagging and dull responding just like what I had with my stock rom.
Then I said so what I'll flash another and another. Again, googled best rom and knew that there is no such a thing but my eyes captured Cyanogenmod and I said ok I'll give it a try and I did.
Now I'm running cm11 M3 and the device is speedy, no lagging what so ever, actually experinced multi tasking for my first time - multi tasking with stock rom is a lie - and finally I felt like hey that is what I actually wanted.
Had to do some changes to be honest - not to the rom don't get me wrong I'm not that smart - but I had that android keyboard with the number row I love it. Hated that google launcher and its ugly icons so now I'm using KK launcher and few other things and that's it.
Now to my question. In this little short adventure of mine I have experienced two diffrent roms well, three actually counting the stock rom and the stock rom was awful, S4 revolution v12 was quite good but not that speedy and cm11 that pushed my S3 to its limits. My question is - in terms of speed, performance and no lagging - what was holding the device back and what made it as fast as it now with cm11?
I mean is it the rom itself, maybe the kernel if I even understand the term well, the samsung heavy Touchwiz or maybe the samsung apps? I need to understand because it'll help me choose between roms and kernels and really have what I want.
P.S English in not my native language so if you'll correct me be nice
M7mdali said:
Hey,
I'm very new to rooting flashing and all of this but I learn fast.
Originally came here because I was disappointed with my S3 and how it is working so I googled, knew a thing or two about rooting, rooted almost a week ago then a day after I was flashing my very first rom.
My first rom was S4 revolution v12 I liked it but after a while - not very long while - I have experienced lagging and dull responding just like what I had with my stock rom.
Then I said so what I'll flash another and another. Again, googled best rom and knew that there is no such a thing but my eyes captured Cyanogenmod and I said ok I'll give it a try and I did.
Now I'm running cm11 M3 and the device is speedy, no lagging what so ever, actually experinced multi tasking for my first time - multi tasking with stock rom is a lie - and finally I felt like hey that is what I actually wanted.
Had to do some changes to be honest - not to the rom don't get me wrong I'm not that smart - but I had that android keyboard with the number row I love it. Hated that google launcher and its ugly icons so now I'm using KK launcher and few other things and that's it.
Now to my question. In this little short adventure of mine I have experienced two diffrent roms well, three actually counting the stock rom and the stock rom was awful, S4 revolution v12 was quite good but not that speedy and cm11 that pushed my S3 to its limits. My question is - in terms of speed, performance and no lagging - what was holding the device back and what made it as fast as it now with cm11?
I mean is it the rom itself, maybe the kernel if I even understand the term well, the samsung heavy Touchwiz or maybe the samsung apps? I need to understand because it'll help me choose between roms and kernels and really have what I want.
P.S English in not my native language so if you'll correct me be nice
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Since the time Samsung Galaxy series phone were launched, over the years, this has been a problem with Samsung stock ROMs.
The device would be fast without lags for some period of time and then it starts lagging.
I am no expert, but in my experience, its the Bloatware and many unnecessary features that Samsung puts in its ROMs.
This is the reason Samsung ROMs are usually heavy about 1GB
These apps/features hog up the cache memory over time and takes up system memory.
this causes the lags and freezes (well, at least in my case it was always).
As opposed to this, in CM11 or AOSP ROMs in general are bare bones ROMs which are based on pure android.
this is the reason they are light about 200 MB + 150+ MB for gapps.
less bloat, lesser cache used and lesser lags.
Well this is my inference from my experience with Samsung Galaxy S and Samsung Galaxy S3.
Someone can correct me technically if I am wrong.
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msri3here said:
Since the time Samsung Galaxy series phone were launched, over the years, this has been a problem with Samsung stock ROMs.
The device would be fast without lags for some period of time and then it starts lagging.
I am no expert, but in my experience, its the Bloatware and many unnecessary features that Samsung puts in its ROMs.
This is the reason Samsung ROMs are usually heavy about 1GB
These apps/features hog up the cache memory over time and takes up system memory.
this causes the lags and freezes (well, at least in my case it was always).
As opposed to this, in CM11 or AOSP ROMs in general are bare bones ROMs which are based on pure android.
this is the reason they are light about 200 MB + 150+ MB for gapps.
less bloat, lesser cache used and lesser lags.
Well this is my inference from my experience with Samsung Galaxy S and Samsung Galaxy S3.
Someone can correct me technically if I am wrong.
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Thanks for your reply.
So if I'm in love with samsung apps I should live with a slow and low performance roms whether they are stock or custom?
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OK OK my bad
M7mdali said:
Thanks for your reply.
So if I'm in love with samsung apps I should live with a slow and low performance roms whether they are stock or custom?
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That is the problem with sammy roms, there's too much bloat and garbage. But there are some ways you can make it slightly better:
1- You can use a de-bloating app (search XDA) and remove unwanted apps for a better performance. But this is not recommended for new users or those who have less experience.
2- You can root your device and use Titanium Backup to freeze un-needed apps/services. Sometimes freezing an app can give you errors so you can defrost them safely, no worries. The apps are not deleted, but they are just hidden from the system.
3- Use an app like Greenify (Donate version recommended) and make them hibernate. Donate version can even freeze system apps like Google Play etc and this is one of the easiest/safest way to speed up your phone and reduce lag. (Need Xposed module to freeze system apps)
4- Use a custom Rom like Resurrection KK (but some camera issues) for fantastic performance.
5- Learn to forget Samsung apps There are better apps out there.
~ RazorMC
I really don't know why cyanogenmod consume battery but the stock dont do that much
Maybe it's related to activating the powersaver mode , so what is powersafer mode ?
And is there any ROOTED method to maintain battery on cyanogenmod ?
And I saw on google there is a way of installing root module to make multi window for non TouchWiz phones ? Is that really working ?
And the sensors of the mobile like smart stay is off on CM s3
Or maybe s4 and note 2. 3 s pens when installing cyanogenmod would they lose function too ?
A link for multiwindow feature on xhalo module
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.zst.xposed.halo.floatingwindow
Slimroms is based at cm11 and have enought life battery. Maybe custom rom are usualy drainer battery, but offer a lot of freatures
Send from my Galaxy S3 runing with TemasekROM
There are many comparisons already.
Now let me say. I think you know about AOSP and smoothness? Battery drains a little faster,that's true. That's becase Stock firmwares are smooth,maybe,but responsiveness is slow. I mean compared to AOSP,it's slow,that means less CPU power used,thus less battery drain. It's possible to configure AOSP to work like Stock,I mean make it as slow as Stock fw,so battery will be better.
I'm on AOSP now,too. On Stock firmware my battery usage from 100 to 20% was 4 and sometimes more hrs of screen time. On AOSP I get mostly 3.30-3.50,that's because I use custom kernel and tweaks which give more performance. I just couldn't stand that slowness and lags in some social apps on Stock firmwares (it was smooth in settings,but not in apps). AOSP is smooth everywhere and I prefer that and already got used to battery.
As for features,some are lost,some are gained.
chrissykess said:
Slimroms is based at cm11 and have enought life battery. Maybe custom rom are usualy drainer battery, but offer a lot of freatures
Send from my Galaxy S3 runing with TemasekROM
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Thanks so much but what is slimroms ?
AssassinGEO said:
There are many comparisons already.
Now let me say. I think you know about AOSP and smoothness? Battery drains a little faster,that's true. That's becase Stock firmwares are smooth,maybe,but responsiveness is slow. I mean compared to AOSP,it's slow,that means less CPU power used,thus less battery drain. It's possible to configure AOSP to work like Stock,I mean make it as slow as Stock fw,so battery will be better.
I'm on AOSP now,too. On Stock firmware my battery usage from 100 to 20% was 4 and sometimes more hrs of screen time. On AOSP I get mostly 3.30-3.50,that's because I use custom kernel and tweaks which give more performance. I just couldn't stand that slowness and lags in some social apps on Stock firmwares (it was smooth in settings,but not in apps). AOSP is smooth everywhere and I prefer that and already got used to battery.
As for features,some are lost,some are gained.
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Hmm totally agree with you , but it's not the social apps only on stock they are all apps are bugged and restarting crashing .. unbearable !!
But you know , if I didnt use powersaver mode the battery drains so quickly tho :/ on stock I mean
So what are the customizations I have to do on AOSP to give me more battery life ?
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Hmm totally agree with you , but it's not the social apps only on stock they are all apps are bugged and restarting crashing .. unbearable !!
But you know , if I didnt use powersaver mode the battery drains so quickly tho :/ on stock I mean
So what are the customizations I have to do on AOSP to give me more battery life ?
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Use pegasus governor,use battery-saving tweaks. Underclocks and etc.
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Thanks so much but what is slimroms ?
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This is just kind of rom, u can check this one.
http://www.slimroms.net/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/orig-development/rom-slimkat-i9300-t2565166
I was wondering about the pros and cons of each. For example, right now I'm running MIUI, and it has the best experience of any rom I've used (I've been using MIUI since GB on my N1 - only recently upgraded to the GSIII). But, I really like the way Milk Music looks, and I can only get that particular app if I'm running a near-stock touchwiz based rom.
I was wondering if there was a way to get the best of both worlds? Or if I should stay away from stock entirely, or if there are any other benefits I'm missing!
Hello !
I believe this is one of the hardest question to reply ever "stock or aosp/aokp/miui".
For me, everything depends on what you want to do with your phone. Exellent battery life would be stock rom, but more smoothness would be cm, for exemple.
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Hello !
I believe this is one of the hardest question to reply ever "stock or aosp/aokp/miui".
For me, everything depends on what you want to do with your phone. Exellent battery life would be stock rom, but more smoothness would be cm, for exemple.
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It's mostly about appearance and functionality for me. I'm pretty good on battery life, and have a battery backup if needed. I love how clean MIUI looks. It's always looked obsessively clean, and I love it for that. It also lets me arrange my status bar into the iOS style (I like the battery on one side, signal on the other - clock in the middle).
MIUI with Aviate as my launcher seems to work wonders, and MIUI has a lot of great features - built in data monitor, app and trash cleaners, just a lot of great things to keep the phone running smooth.
But I want the samsung support as well. I like a lot of the touchwiz stuff (minus the actual launcher), and I enjoy having my data backed up with them (MIUI backs up my data, but not all of it, really). And I am absurdly interested in the Milk Music app. But when you look at stock/near-stock touchwiz based roms that have the samsung support and the camera app, and the like, you're stuck with the stock UI as well. Which is nice, mind you - leaps and bounds better than it was in previous versions, but still leaps and bounds behind the work that MIUI has done to give it the smooth feel I've come to expect.
If only there was a way to get the Samsung Framework on MIUI, I think all my problems would be solved.
I never tried MIUI, because I don't really fancy the iOS style..
I think, the perfect rom would be a mix of CM, stock rom, and maybe MIUI too, but I believe that's impossible to make.. :/
Stock:
Pros:Usually completely stable,Full warranty,Apps is usually better designed/has more features,Can use official updates easily,More Secure(Without root of course)Usually looks better(my opinion)
Cons:
(may be a bit slow)
Inefficient
Unrooted
Bootloader may be locked
High ram usage
Custom
Pros:
Usually faster than stock
Usually pre-rooted
More efficient
Usually quicker update timeframe
Less space is used
Easier to install certain apps
Cons:
Loss of warranty
Unstable
Errors
Insecure(rooted)
Apps are more plain (less features/looks)
Hi guys, I'm searching for a rom which works great with games, any ideas?
No one is going to answer you because of the rules. I'm trying to find it to for the last six months. In my opinion is best if you have some knowledge if you don't you will have to read for a while, to use you latest stock rom. But you will have to deodex it, zipallighn it, apply the modes you like from other rom if there are some and remove the bloatwear not all just the one that is safe to remove and you don't need. And perhaps replace touchwiz with nova launcher. It's just that here are very sensitive on questions about best rom. For the past six months I've downloaded a lot of roms and after a while having problems with all of them- here I mean problems with playing games. And till now the best experience I had was with stock rom but then I was missing some futures, mods from others. So only solution as I don't wanna search for another 6 monts is make my own. By the way the qiestion is not which is the best rom but which is the best for games or in other words on which rom I'll have no or less problems but stil for here is like you ask which is the best.
So make your own rom deodex and zipallighn for speed, remove the app you don't need because most of the bloatwear has running processes all the time so you can have more free ram and then if you want some extra mods.
I hope this is helpful although it mean you have a lot to read if you are new at that.
As previously stated, stock roms are the best all rounders and in my opinion much better than custom roms hands down.
As soon as you root a samsung you can expect performance issues. Had the same problem on all 3 samsung devices I've owned. This led me to not touch my htc m9 at all as far as mods go..
I wish I stole my HTC M9.
petkovmt said:
No one is going to answer you because of the rules. I'm trying to find it to for the last six months. In my opinion is best if you have some knowledge if you don't you will have to read for a while, to use you latest stock rom. But you will have to deodex it, zipallighn it, apply the modes you like from other rom if there are some and remove the bloatwear not all just the one that is safe to remove and you don't need. And perhaps replace touchwiz with nova launcher. It's just that here are very sensitive on questions about best rom. For the past six months I've downloaded a lot of roms and after a while having problems with all of them- here I mean problems with playing games. And till now the best experience I had was with stock rom but then I was missing some futures, mods from others. So only solution as I don't wanna search for another 6 monts is make my own. By the way the qiestion is not which is the best rom but which is the best for games or in other words on which rom I'll have no or less problems but stil for here is like you ask which is the best.
So make your own rom deodex and zipallighn for speed, remove the app you don't need because most of the bloatwear has running processes all the time so you can have more free ram and then if you want some extra mods.
I hope this is helpful although it mean you have a lot to read if you are new at that.
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Thanks for an answer.
I've used a lot of roms too, I've been changing them every week and I'm really enjoying ArchiDroid with android 5.1.1. I'm definitely going to try installing latest stock and doing what you told me to, I never liked stocks though.
shivadow said:
As previously stated, stock roms are the best all rounders and in my opinion much better than custom roms hands down.
As soon as you root a samsung you can expect performance issues. Had the same problem on all 3 samsung devices I've owned. This led me to not touch my htc m9 at all as far as mods go..
I wish I stole my HTC M9.
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I can't live without root, I'm using a lot of tweaks and rooted apps. Stock roms were always laggy and slow for me, maybe I just can't use them properly.
Stock ROMs are laggy on legacy devices.
New devices works perfectly good on Stock ROMs. This is why they have lesser Custom ROMs and older devices still has some ongoing developments.
I've never had any performance issue after rooting my Sonys and Samsungs. I always had better performance and recommend custom ROMs because they work better for me. Please bear in mind that my latest device is the S3 which has 1GB RAM while other new phones are going 4GB so my opinion only stops here : On old devices. On new devices , I've played with my friends Note 3 alot and we reached a conclusion that it works flawless even on Stock ROM.
For a gaming ROM , I would suggest ArchiDroid if you are going CM. Latest Archidroid Lollipop works flawlessly for me (Even while using Chrome with 11 Tabs. No lags and reloads while switching tabs). Runs NFS:Most Wanted , Cyrus and alot other major games that I've tested run on full FPS without a single lag. However , Hearthstone will never work good on S3 even on this magnificent ROM. Go for Archidroid for both KitKat and Lollipop if you want Performance. Go for Temasek (Darkened's build) if you want balanced Performance , customization and slightly better Battery life. Other ROMs work too , they may have more customization (Blisspop) etc but I did not list them because they are too heavy for a Gaming ROM In my opinion. AOKP KitKat is also a fair choice to go for.
For Touchwiz Based ROMs, I would say LukeROM. Install without Bloat and enjoy a smooth ROM even on stock kernel and no Greenify. NFS:Most Wanted , Cytus and other major games that I've tested also runs on full FPS without lag. It also has stock Camera and Note 4 Multiwindow that allow floating app like Messenger Chat Head. However , Chrome makes this ROM die on stock kernel. 4 or 5 tabs and it starts reloading when switching tabs. NeatROM Lite is also a good choice if you're fine with Android 4.3 and a Bluetooth Bug where NFC gets turn on too when you connect to a Bluetooth device. (Might be device specific bug since I don't see a lot of comments about that bug). Blekota's S5 Lite ROM with Boeffla kernel and Speed Mod also works flawless. Check my post on that thread for tutorial.(Posted few months back)
These are my personal experience with various ROMs for I9300. I've flashed almost every ROM that came to XDA and a few other Chinese forums since January 2014 and these are my conclusions. Please bear in mind that the same ROM might perform differently for different users with different usage and settings. Have a nice day
@conanDO98 Thanks for an answer, you just put everything in a whole new light to me. I'm on Luke's rom for like an hour now, it works great. But i do have a question, you said "no greenify", may I ask why? I always thought it's good for performance.
I have 550 free ram running cm 12(gaaps pico installed)now looking for a custom kernel to overclock...can u sugest me one?
@nolitooo When I was on cm12 I was using an ArchiKernel, it worked great. There's always boeffla kernel, with boeffla config app, try them both and pick your best
MichAzer said:
@conanDO98 Thanks for an answer, you just put everything in a whole new light to me. I'm on Luke's rom for like an hour now, it works great. But i do have a question, you said "no greenify", may I ask why? I always thought it's good for performance.
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I'm sorry. By no greenify I mean I did not install Greenify on that ROM.
I suggest flashing Boeffla 7.9 on Luke ROM because after flashing I find the ROM smoother and Chrome works better
@conanDO98 I'm gonna flash it now and see how it works
I've tried archdroid it's not that it wasn't good just searching for better. I play a lot call of duty heroes which is laggy with all the roms i've tried so far but with most of them after a few days the game starts to crash, to close by itself but I don't need a rom that I need to restart every few hours or every day.
I'll try Luke Rom in a few days and will see if it's better. I guess that part of the problem is that most of the time I have installed around 80 apps by me. Some games, for alarm, calculator, apps like facebook, line, soundhound, xposed with some mods and others.
About the kernel I like boeffla with his options but for some reason I have less apps closing by itself with stock.
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I've tried archdroid it's not that it wasn't good just searching for better. I play a lot call of duty heroes which is laggy with all the roms i've tried so far but with most of them after a few days the game starts to crash, to close by itself but I don't need a rom that I need to restart every few hours or every day.
I'll try Luke Rom in a few days and will see if it's better. I guess that part of the problem is that most of the time I have installed around 80 apps by me. Some games, for alarm, calculator, apps like facebook, line, soundhound, xposed with some mods and others.
About the kernel I like boeffla with his options but for some reason I have less apps closing by itself with stock.
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I think stock roms are better for gaming, I play a lot of games, I was using cm12.1 and archidroid for few months and gaming was nice, but not what I was looking for. Now I'm on Luke ROM with boeffla 7.9 and gaming is so much better then on lollipop. I haven't played CoD Heroes though.
I did try the Luke rom but after a few days had some problems with some games, back on stock and all perfect. Now just have to download some tools and have free time and will deodex and zipaligh it. And some other mods if I find some good.
MichAzer said:
I think stock roms are better for gaming, I play a lot of games, I was using cm12.1 and archidroid for few months and gaming was nice, but not what I was looking for. Now I'm on Luke ROM with boeffla 7.9 and gaming is so much better then on lollipop. I haven't played CoD Heroes though.
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What's a good rom to play garena free on galaxy s3 T mobile (d2tmo)?
What's your way to make your device be truly yours?
Me personally,
I am a power user and i don't really care about battery life much (1.5 days of battery life is enough for me), and i love to try out custom roms. I always loved the look and feel of pixel devices, especially the product sans font.
So my way of setting up my device is to install a font pack and a custom kernel.
I had mostly used the AOSCP Rom since it first came out, but recently the Liquid Remix rom is being my daily driver.
So my way to flash things is-
Liquid remix rom>Product sans font>Stormguard kernel
That does my job. and later on i install some apps like modded google cam and pixel 2 launcher and the Viper module from magisk for my sound mod..
So at the end of the day i have a device with super stock pixel look and full of raw performance.:victory:
But whats your way of doing things? Do you love stock miui or run a customised version of it? or are you a part of the modding community?
I like a balanced phone. Neither biased towards RAW performance nor too power saving.
What I find is you can increase performance and decrease battery consumption at the same time when you minimise the amount of automation in your system. Say for example an auto sync service which requires it own service to be running in the background, it's not much savings but when a considerable number of automations are reduced your phone might run smooth even on the powersave governor. I analyse evey automated process be it kernel related like Touch boost, a system automation like updates checking, an app automation like google sync and see if it is really necessary for me. Only the once I use and need get to run.
This is mostly why I root my phone in the first place. I want my phone's power where and when I need it. But never do I compromise on performance too, after all we're in the 21st century.
I use a well stable custom ROM( which most of times happens to be Lineage) topped with a well balanced kernel and of course Magisk. Once booted there's a lot of stuff I do to achieve that butter smooth power friendly UI.