Rooted HDX Saturn - Problems with Play Store - Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot

Hello,
I own a Fire HDX 8.9 Saturn (4Gen) with FireOS 5 rooted.
I installed Play Store etc. and everything was working fine for months. All of a sudden the Play Store is not working anymore. Error DF-DFERH-01
I searched the Internet and deleted the account of accounts.db. I also deleted the cache of GApps but none of them fixed my problem.
I uninstalled all GApps and installed it from scratch (with elder App Versions. Then the Play Store worked again but when the Apps updated themselves the Play Store broke again.
Anyone knows how to fix this error?

epionier said:
Hello,
I own a Fire HDX 8.9 Saturn (4Gen) with FireOS 5 rooted.
I installed Play Store etc. and everything was working fine for months. All of a sudden the Play Store is not working anymore. Error DF-DFERH-01
I searched the Internet and deleted the account of accounts.db. I also deleted the cache of GApps but none of them fixed my problem.
I uninstalled all GApps and installed it from scratch (with elder App Versions. Then the Play Store worked again but when the Apps updated themselves the Play Store broke again.
Anyone knows how to fix this error?
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Newest version of Play Services is proving problematic on various devices - especially those with custom builds. Well known liability of running Google services on FireOS v4. Your choices are to roll back to an earlier version of Play Services (very temporary solution) or consider Safestrap and a custom ROM that is more hospitable to Google's ecosystem.

Hello, problem is that Play Store updates itself immediately, so installing an old version is useless without blocking the update process but how could this be done?
Safestrap is not available for Saturn so this is not an option.
But thanks for your statement.

epionier said:
Hello, problem is that Play Store updates itself immediately, so installing an old version is useless without blocking the update process but how could this be done?
Safestrap is not available for Saturn so this is not an option.
But thanks for your statement.
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Sorry - missed the Saturn reference (d'oh) and FireOS v5 (d'oh again). The latter has typically been the best solution for Saturn users ... ie: upgrade to FireOS v5 which plays nicer with Google components.
Tough situation as you don't have a lot of options until Google gets their house straighted out. Play Service v9 has been a nightmare for many devices. It sometimes take a few weeks for things to settle down.
There is a technique to block updates but I'm not familiar with the details. Perhaps someone else will jump in with instructions or a link. I'll take a look as well when time permits.

Davey126 said:
I'll take a look as well when time permits.
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As expected there are numerous home brewed methods for blocking updates to Google Play Services with variable outcomes and side effects. Suggest you wait for a compatible update or poke at some of the suggested work arounds to see if you can stomach the consequences.

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[Q] Google Play Store and other apps

Has anyone gotten google play store working? I tried following the steps from android cowboy but I get back to back errors for google services no matter what.
On a different note, is there a way to remove the ads/special offers for free?
Thanks,
Sean
sjh1022 said:
Has anyone gotten google play store working? I tried following the steps from android cowboy but I get back to back errors for google services no matter what.
On a different note, is there a way to remove the ads/special offers for free?
Thanks,
Sean
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Google play is a system apps so it's gonna need a rooted or modified rom with bootloader cracked. Same is needed to disable kindle offers.
So is there any good way of getting apps beyond side loading?
n60 said:
Google play is a system apps so it's gonna need a rooted or modified rom with bootloader cracked. Same is needed to disable kindle offers.
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Only the second part is true. You can get the Google play store apk on any device, regardless of root or not.
Sent from my Kindle Fire HD 7 using xda app-developers app
r3pwn said:
Only the second part is true. You can get the Google play store apk on any device, regardless of root or not.
Sent from my Kindle Fire HD 7 using xda app-developers app
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You can get it on the device, but it won't work. ... from experience. If you know how, ... do tell!
These are not the droids you're looking for.
evanladoux said:
You can get it on the device, but it won't work. ... from experience. If you know how, ... do tell!
These are not the droids you're looking for.
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Try this link.
Although it says Kindle Fire HD, ignore that. Ignore step 3. Also ignore anything that says about copying to /system/app.
Just install the apps in the order he has listed then install the "Vending.apk" (That is the Google Play Store). Please also note that you will most likely not be able to install apps from it. :/
r3pwn said:
Try this link.
Although it says Kindle Fire HD, ignore that. Ignore step 3. Also ignore anything that says about copying to /system/app.
Just install the apps in the order he has listed then install the "Vending.apk" (That is the Google Play Store). Please also note that you will most likely not be able to install apps from it. :/
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Did you ever try 1mobile market?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.onemobile.lite.android
One way to get a lot of Android apps onto Kindle, until we get root.
These are not the droids you're looking for.
r3pwn said:
Try this link.
Although it says Kindle Fire HD, ignore that. Ignore step 3. Also ignore anything that says about copying to /system/app.
Just install the apps in the order he has listed then install the "Vending.apk" (That is the Google Play Store). Please also note that you will most likely not be able to install apps from it. :/
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lmao
Seems to me like there should be some kind of app you can run on your rooted android device to pull the apk. Then install the full version on the Kindle via sideloading.
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Better results
You'll get better results in the interim from installing:
a) 1MobileMarket
or
b) Aptoide
or
c) BlackMart Alpha (shh..)
Tinkering with Google Play Store components before we have root may be an exercise in futility.
The content of the link is quiet useful to me. Thank you for sharing. I decide to buy a licence. :good:
Anyone tried SNAPPEA TO passthru GooglePlay?
I saw a utility SnapPea that seems to allow a pass thru from a PC to Kindle Fire HDX for accessing GooglePlay. As I still have not ordered my HDX I was wondering if anyone has tried this.
Thanks in advance;
Big Al1 said:
I saw a utility SnapPea that seems to allow a pass thru from a PC to Kindle Fire HDX for accessing GooglePlay. As I still have not ordered my HDX I was wondering if anyone has tried this.
Thanks in advance;
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The SnapPea app that I just tested is a way to control your android device from a browser on your computer, similar to AirDroid. It does not allow access to Google Play for the Kindle. What it does do is help you to install an .apk file through the browser, but then we can do that already by allowing sideload anyway. So maybe you were thinking about something else?
The Gapps and Google Services Framework processes keep crashing. Any ideas?
Kindle Fire HD 2013
nudawa said:
The Gapps and Google Services Framework processes keep crashing. Any ideas?
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Same here.. Just bought a Kindle Fire HD 2013 and tried every possible attempt described on many how-to to get it rooted for Google Play. Nothing worked. Device current version is 11.3.0.5.
Tried the side load as well described for HDX. Gmail app works but that's about it.
Anyone succeeded on this version?
Thanks
marcello2k13 said:
Same here.. Just bought a Kindle Fire HD 2013 and tried every possible attempt described on many how-to to get it rooted for Google Play. Nothing worked. Device current version is 11.3.0.5.
Tried the side load as well described for HDX. Gmail app works but that's about it.
Anyone succeeded on this version?
Thanks
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I basically got pretty much every app to work except for Hangouts and Play Store. This includes everything from Voice to Gmail to Map to Google Earth to Google Plus to whatever. The key for me was to start with base configs that Android Cowboy posted, but then add bunch of dependencies from android 4.2.2 and update with latest version of backed up apps. For example, I have had to install Google Play Services 3.2.66 first and then was able to update to 4.0.31 after reboot. That version was required for Youtube to work properly (i.e. allow account sign-in). Things still crash sometimes, but it's not a huge deal.
Main thing is Youtube, Music, Gmail and Calendar are all working more or less ok. Chrome signed into my google account, but its not pulling down settings (bookmarks, open tabs from other computers, etc...). Google Plus crashes sometimes but works. Hangouts is clearly missing a dependency of some sort. I installed most things I could thing of from default Android 4.2.2 CM10.1 apps package and from backing up my phone (galaxy s4), but it's still no go. It would be nice to get that going as well. Oh well, Skype can cover most things there.
Google Voice Convifirmed
oblomov said:
I basically got pretty much every app to work except for Hangouts and Play Store. This includes everything from Voice to Gmail to Map to Google Earth to Google Plus to whatever. The key for me was to start with base configs that Android Cowboy posted, but then add bunch of dependencies from android 4.2.2 and update with latest version of backed up apps. For example, I have had to install Google Play Services 3.2.66 first and then was able to update to 4.0.31 after reboot. That version was required for Youtube to work properly (i.e. allow account sign-in). Things still crash sometimes, but it's not a huge deal.
Main thing is Youtube, Music, Gmail and Calendar are all working more or less ok. Chrome signed into my google account, but its not pulling down settings (bookmarks, open tabs from other computers, etc...). Google Plus crashes sometimes but works. Hangouts is clearly missing a dependency of some sort. I installed most things I could thing of from default Android 4.2.2 CM10.1 apps package and from backing up my phone (galaxy s4), but it's still no go. It would be nice to get that going as well. Oh well, Skype can cover most things there.
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Wanted to confirm that I also have Google Voice working on the HDX 7 (since I rarely see people mentioning it as a Google App). Interestingly, I also got Talkatone working on the HDX with my Google Voice number, even though the app's FAQ plainly says that Google Voice will NOT work with it. As a result, as long as I have wifi, I can now easily use my Google Voice number to make and receive calls.
When I download apps from other sources (1mobile) they don't show up in the multi tasking bar. Anyone know of a multitasking app to fix this?
bdtao said:
When I download apps from other sources (1mobile) they don't show up in the multi tasking bar. Anyone know of a multitasking app to fix this?
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I'm using the paid version of floating toucher to access recent apps.
To get apps to show up on the stock multi tasking bar you have to open them from the stock home launcher.
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megathormic said:
I'm using the paid version of floating toucher to access recent apps.
To get apps to show up on the stock multi tasking bar you have to open them from the stock home launcher.
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Correct. The multitasking feature on the HDX is basically just the Carousel, with exactly the same shortcuts in exactly the same order. The only difference is it's hidden on the edge of the screen until you pull it up. So, just as apps launched from alternative launchers won't show up on the Carousel, they also won't show up on the HDX multitasking bar.

Apps want Google Play Services update but it doesn't like Kindle. Ideas?

I've got various Google apps running on my Fire HDX - Gmail, Google calendar, and so on. Last week I started seeing a notification that Gmail wanted a new version of Play Services, but I know that the latest Play Services (or any version past 7.099, I think it is) doesn't run on the HDX. So I downgraded Gmail, and it's happy.
However, another app I use, Business Calendar 2, is no longer updating itself properly. Since it piggybacks on Google Calendar, my theory is that it wants something in the new version of Services. Which I can't run.
Any ideas, short of replacing the stock ROM?
RobFreundlich said:
I've got various Google apps running on my Fire HDX - Gmail, Google calendar, and so on. Last week I started seeing a notification that Gmail wanted a new version of Play Services, but I know that the latest Play Services (or any version past 7.099, I think it is) doesn't run on the HDX. So I downgraded Gmail, and it's happy.
However, another app I use, Business Calendar 2, is no longer updating itself properly. Since it piggybacks on Google Calendar, my theory is that it wants something in the new version of Services. Which I can't run.
Any ideas, short of replacing the stock ROM?
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I heard the latest version of Google Play services (v7.5) integrates well with Fire OS. Look around the forums for conformation. I have no first hand experience as I run a different ROM
Davey126 said:
I heard the latest version of Google Play services (v7.5) integrates well with Fire OS. Look around the forums for conformation. I have no first hand experience as I run a different ROM
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I saw that in another forum thread, but when I installed it, I got the dreaded "Google Play Services has stopped". I'll head over to that other thread and see what they have to say.
Rob

Google Play Services

A while back I had to freeze Google Play Services at 7.0.99 so that the store would continue to work, but that meant I couldn't run a few apps that were prompting for GPS to be updated, like the Gmail app (and Netflix, when installed from the Kindle store, prompts for this as well, oddly... but just tapping elsewheres on the screen lets you bypass it). Is the current version still buggy, or has that since been resolved so that I can update things?
Thanks.
stormerider said:
A while back I had to freeze Google Play Services at 7.0.99 so that the store would continue to work, but that meant I couldn't run a few apps that were prompting for GPS to be updated, like the Gmail app (and Netflix, when installed from the Kindle store, prompts for this as well, oddly... but just tapping elsewheres on the screen lets you bypass it). Is the current version still buggy, or has that since been resolved so that I can update things?
Thanks.
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Google Play Services will always be a compromise on FireOS as the two were never intended to work together (at least through v4; suspect v5 will be even less accommodating). Your best option is to install a different ROM (Nexus v4 or CM11) via Safestrap v4.

Play Store Service crashes every 10 seconds - how to freeze version?

Hey there,
if you are still a regular user of the good old GTab 10.1 - like my GF - you might have encountered this issue recently too.
Google has updated and does remotely update your Play Store Service to a version which is not supported anymore by this tablet, or the other way around, the app does not support our hardware anymore and the service keeps crashing and crashing, same with Chrome and Maps as far as I know.
Well I first thought something is wrong with the ROM or Gapps so I looked for a recent unofficial ROM and found the [ROM][Unofficial][AOSP] Android 7.1.1 Nougat and there was stated:
Incompatible apps:
The following apps no longer support the hardware in this tablet. They will not work on any ROM for this device. There is no hack to make them work.
Apps that do not support this tablet:
Chrome 50+
Google Translate
Gboard 6.0.79
Maps 9.45
Google Play services 10.2
Apps based on Unity 5 engine
Last known compatible versions:
Chrome 49.0
Gboard 6.0.69
Maps 9.44
Google Play services 10.0.84
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Well I had a backup from 2015 on the GTab and restored it but immediately the service updated itself and it began to crash.
In the Above mentioned thread there was some1 writing
This worked for me (for disabling Google Play Services auto-update) :
- disconnect wifi
- disable auto-update apps in Google Play Store
- in Settings / Apps, GPS, 3-dots menu, Uninstall updates, so back to v10.0.84....
- in App info, Data usage, disable Unrestricted data usage
- reconnect wifi
Now GPS doesn't seem to auto-update anymore.
Best regards
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Sadly this does not seem to work for me. I was thinking about Titanium backup to freeze the GPS but I am not sure if this will work.
Also flashed manually a GApps Version which had the older play store in it but also got overwritten immediately
So have you encountered this issue and how did you fix it?
Thanks
Did you make sure to turn off auto update apps in Google Play store? That combined with the other steps listed worked for me and my Galaxy Tab play services has NOT updated... And it works fine, though it still occasionally crashes, but not every ten secons.
Thank you for this information. I've been banging my head on the wall for a few days while searching the cause.
I'm facing exactly the same problem.
I don't have the "Disable unrestricted data usage" option in Google Play Services Data Usage.
There is only "Restrict app background data", but this one doesn't prevent GPS from update.
In the next day GPS updates automatically to version 10.2.* and crushes.
have you tried this ? : https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/delete-disable-downgrade-prevent-update-t3091832
tl;dr create 2 folders at /data/app : com.google.android.gms-1.apk and com.google.android.gms-2.apk . Done that today, but still need to test on the long run.
I tried this and it worked - for a couple of days. Now some apps are complaining they are unlicensed
Well I was able to disable GPS completely but now, as stated above, apps are complaining and there are now no app updates availible and the complete store is disabled, not really what I was looking for. But I guess Google now really fu:cyclops::cyclops:ed us. So are we done with this tablet or what?
Not Dead Yet
HansiHusten said:
Well I was able to disable GPS completely but now, as stated above, apps are complaining and there are now no app updates availible and the complete store is disabled, not really what I was looking for. But I guess Google now really fu:cyclops::cyclops:ed us. So are we done with this tablet or what?
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My p4wifi is working fine on the latest 7.1.1 ROM and the older GApps. Disabling automatic updates in the Play Store keeps regular apps from updating when we don't want them to.
Disabling the background data settings in Apps.... Google Play Services... Settings keeps GPS from updating itself.
(I'm not sure that I made the settings change in Developer Options or not.)
It might be worth reading through the posts in the 7.1.1 thread.
I can afford a new tablet, but cannot find anything this size that keeps the ROM current with Google releases.
(I also do not play games or need esoteric applications.)
Don't give up yet.
Is this a solution?
https://www.xda-developers.com/unshackle-your-device-from-the-google-play-store-with-apkupdater/
I also deleted cacche from Gps & blocked the internet connection wth Afwall.
Tried the solution of lebaronrouge in 5.1.1 rom topic.
Seems to work.

Sharp Aquos S2 Widget not work

I bought Sharp Aquos S2 from TWN, evething works fine with original play store except Sharp widget does not work (System UI no permission). Don't know how to set permission system UI?
PS: reset several times but does not work.
Please help.
Thank you
Kinda off-topic but how did You get google play store to work on Aquos S2?
I can't install it at all. Did You have it preinstalled on your phone?
I bought from Taiwan, it has google play store original but the problem is the phone widget is N/A.
_haker_1 said:
Kinda off-topic but how did You get google play store to work on Aquos S2?
I can't install it at all. Did You have it preinstalled on your phone?
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liuhaychiv said:
I bought from Taiwan, it has google play store original but the problem is the phone widget is N/A.
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So, you don't know how to install CH play to Sharp S2?
Everyone,
Pls let me know the way to install CH play.
Thank you so much.
liuhaychiv said:
I bought from Taiwan, it has google play store original but the problem is the phone widget is N/A.
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Lucky You with play store preinstalled. I'd suggest you to simple get rid off original widget and install any other widget from google play store. The original one is not working for me either (N/A). I'm gonna keep fighting with mine. Does anyone know how to enter recovery mode on S2? I was able to boot in safe mode (power + volume down) but idk what's the combination for recovery. Maybe under recovery mode I'll be able to install all those google services. I was also unable to root this device.
If anyone got some info how to install google services on this I'd appreciate it!
Cheers,
Hi, first lucky owners of this brand new phone; could you share any benchmarks, please?
maxecume said:
Hi, first lucky owners of this brand new phone; could you share any benchmarks, please?
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~70k antutu
~325k droidfish
Still no luck with play store :-/ @liuhaychiv
Can You tell me what's Your ROM version?
_haker_1 said:
~70k antutu
~325k droidfish
Still no luck with play store :-/ @liuhaychiv
Can You tell me what's Your ROM version?
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You must install Google Play Services in order to have Google Play Store and other Google apps. Both apps can be found here: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-services/. Choose the right services, this one works for me: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...s-11-7-41-248-171017412-android-apk-download/
piskr said:
You must install Google Play Services in order to have Google Play Store and other Google apps. Both apps can be found here: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-services/. Choose the right services, this one works for me: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...s-11-7-41-248-171017412-android-apk-download/
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This is exacly what I did. I've checked dpi, android version, cpu architecture. I've installed services, framework, account, play store in order. Still no luck. I've also installed google installer which is downloading all neccesary services automaticaly and... same story. Everything installs without any problem but it freezes when I want to open any google app.
Have You installed gaaps on Sharp S2 without those apps being preinstalled?
Actually, I haven't. I had Gapps preinstalled this time. But I had some Chinese phones before and not all of them came with Gapps. I never had problem with installing them.
S2 has plenty options to set rights and restrictions per app. They are in 3 sectors - under SIM settings (about use of networks), apps settings and S boost. I couldn't get internet radio working before I assign necessary rights to it. Have you checked that you gave all gapps needed rights?
Hm.. Maybe I've found the problem. Under SIM and S-boost everything looks good. In apps settings I'm unable to give "get location" for Google Services. I can see it needs "access precise location" to work. Can You tell me whether You have "get location" set for google services on your phone?
I gave GPS all possible permissions. Always.
Well, I can't. The phone is crashing when I want to swipe "location: ON" in google services. It freezes, going black-screen and then going back to settings. It's exacly the same when I want to allow Google Services Framework to read/write instant messages (as far as I can see online those two are by default OFF anyway). All the other permissions for all google apps are ON. Also, most of the other apps with location needed are crashing when I have gaaps installed. Idk why I cant give it all permissions, didn't find any similar problem online.
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Well, I can't. The phone is crashing when I want to swipe "location: ON" in google services. It freezes, going black-screen and then going back to settings. It's exacly the same when I want to allow Google Services Framework to read/write instant messages (as far as I can see online those two are by default OFF anyway). All the other permissions for all google apps are ON. Also, most of the other apps with location needed are crashing when I have gaaps installed. Idk why I cant give it all permissions, didn't find any similar problem online.
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Then, it seems that the problem is serious. When I bought the phone I noticed that the system has flaws, so first thing I did was factory reset. Even after that I still have two errors, fingerprint scanner is slow and sometimes after unlocking the screen just turns blank and after using power button it turns out that phone is unlocked already. And after every resetting the phone Android Pay simply disappeared and has to be enabled in Google Play again. I've gotten one OTA already and nothing regarding both issues has been changed.
I guess you have 3 options: factory reset and set all bunch of Gapps again, returning the phone or waiting for next OTA. It is obvious that the problem is on the sw side and it is in proprietary Smile UI system precisely.
Hopefully they gonna sort it out soon.
Yeah, exacly. I've already done factory reset multiple times. I'm installing proper version of google service and I can't give it location permisions. I'm almost sure I'm doing everything right.
Gonna wait for OTA, I'll use it without play store atm.
I have no problems at all with fingerprint sensor and unlocking. I think we might have slightly different softwares. Can You tell me whats your ROM version? Mine is 00CN_1_27L with android patched September 1, 2017. Kernel Version 4.4.21
Cheers
_haker_1 said:
Yeah, exacly. I've already done factory reset multiple times. I'm installing proper version of google service and I can't give it location permisions. I'm almost sure I'm doing everything right.
Gonna wait for OTA, I'll use it without play store atm.
I have no problems at all with fingerprint sensor and unlocking. I think we might have slightly different softwares. Can You tell me whats your ROM version? Mine is 00CN_1_27L with android patched September 1, 2017. Kernel Version 4.4.21
Cheers
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Mine is 00WW_1_27L and that is the difference. WW stays for worldwide and CN for china (kernels are the same). And WW has Gapps installed. But it has other issues caused by incorrect android system modification (smile UI).
Result of that erroneous system is obviously in Gapps failure. My previous phone was Chinese (there was ww version as well), without Gapps, but system was good and I had no troubles installing Gapps.
I understand - thanks for information. I guess I'll have to wait for root manual and flash rom to WW in future.
You don't need root, just OTA or factory image. If I were you, I'd ask both the seller and Sharp for it Describing troubles and they might hear you.
Sharp didn't even reply. Seller said that I bough device with CN rom and it is as it is. They are both kinda right. How can I OTA with region change? I dont think I can use factory image as my image is CN atm. WW images are not available online.
It's the same kernel, exactly the same hw, there is no difference, only the system. You can flash either ww ota or factory image. Another problem is to get any if supplier doesn't cooperate.

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