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I was wondering if this would be a good trade. I am currently running Miui on my Captivate and its all tweaked out...but I just want to know if the ease and customization of rooting/modding/etc compares to that of the Captivate. Pretty much I just wanna know the pro's and cons of the phone first hand from daily users/flashers...as well as average resale of the phone. I love my Captivate but I think it would be cool to have something new to play with until the SGSII is released...thanks in advance!!!
The biggest con is the dual touch is buggy so it sucks for games..
Also there isn't much development compared to other android phones.
I appreciate your response. I enjoy hacking/and modding...I looked at the dev thread earlier and concluded the same...still might give it a shot though..
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Noooooo!!!!!!
dual touch sucks.
gpu very weaker than captivate.
jgotti107 said:
I appreciate your response. I enjoy hacking/and modding...I looked at the dev thread earlier and concluded the same...still might give it a shot though..
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hey well you would have the ipod touch for games...
it is a decent phone, and from the sounds of things the bootloader might be unlocked very shortly!
Like I said, just be aware of the small issues, but I mean it looks nice and as long as you are informed and still feel up to it, then I say go for it.
I use my phone probably more than my laptop...but you do make a good point about having the touch. The other thing is like I said I'm gonna buy a SGSII when it is released so I could just resell them both and that would pay for my SGSII in itself...thanks you guys I really appreciate your responses...
On my rom i have.fully working dual touch and all games are working with perfectly.
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On my rom i have.fully working dual touch and all games are working with perfectly.
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Which rom are you using?
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On my rom i have.fully working dual touch and all games are working with perfectly.
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Bull****..
You didn't make the dual touch any better than any other..
It would still be equally buggy.
I can.show.u gameplays. Im a dev, i can make.what i want, and.dual touch was working grear ever
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Write in yt : OskarKxKlimek. U will see gameplays and how is working dual touch.
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Write in yt : OskarKxKlimek. U will see gameplays and how is working dual touch.
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I'm gonna check it out
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I can.show.u gameplays. Im a dev, i can make.what i want, and.dual touch was working grear ever
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you can't....
if you did that would be the single biggest discovery in the x10s history.
It still has the cross axis bug, try any gameloft games you'll see what I mean.
here is a video of the bug: (it shows it near the end)
I've been playing nova on my htc one x as well as transformer prime, problem is it gets laggy in some areas with full effects chainfire fix (no chainfire means no effects but no lag) however my gs3 plays it fine with chainfire and A 200 quid chinese tablet with dual core rockchip and quad mali400 with chainfire plays it full effects no lag???!!! And to help you understand this the antutu score on chinese tablet is 7560 and all tegra devices are just over 12500 so wtf?! I'm just so annoyed,
All devices running clean rooted ics no mods or tweaks only interactive governor
My nexus 7 plays nova3 with no lag at all...full effects
Plays fine on my prime also. No lag, full effects.
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Plays fine on my prime also. No lag, full effects.
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Don't give us this bull****... Yes it may play without problem but it's not fully smooth. Runs like a 24 fps movie. Hell the loading times are abysmal. Demandarin I respect you for all the work you've done for us and how positive you've been but don't go as far as lying.... I should be able to run this game on my supposed top of the line tablet with a quad core processor without modifying anything at all. Yet I can't. Game experiences on this tablet have been horrible even with Tegra 3 optimized games.
Sorry if I'm coming out strong but I'm damned tired of this. I have to rma my tablet again just to be able to ota update. Really? Really? Can't even unlock for goodness sakes...
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thanks deadlocked, i thought i was going crazy here and ive been reading the forums of other users complaining. without tweaking anything llike going into development settings max 1 process kill all processes is a temp fix but it doesnt work that well, i shouldnt have to do all that, not sure why a cheap chinese tablet can do this yet an expensive tablet with tegra 3 cant get it right?
i respect the recognized developer above but i thought he was winding me up there as a developer of all people should know there are issues
question now is what can be done, why is this issue even here, how do we resolve this
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thanks deadlocked, i thought i was going crazy here and ive been reading the forums of other users complaining. without tweaking anything llike going into development settings max 1 process kill all processes is a temp fix but it doesnt work that well, i shouldnt have to do all that, not sure why a cheap chinese tablet can do this yet an expensive tablet with tegra 3 cant get it right?
i respect the recognized developer above but i thought he was winding me up there as a developer of all people should know there are issues
question now is what can be done, why is this issue even here, how do we resolve this
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He isn't a dev.... & well.. I'll end there.
As for Tegra 3 ULP Geforce GPU (with 8 spectacular cores)... it isn't a powerhouse GPU. It lacks raw power compared to Mali 400 (and basically all other GPUs)... however, it does have those "oozing" special effects that Nvidia patented.
Also, with single I/O memory controller... with the lack of bandwidth being channeled through during GRAPHIC intensive games... it can have some "FPS" issues.
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Don't give us this bull****... Yes it may play without problem but it's not fully smooth. Runs like a 24 fps movie. Hell the loading times are abysmal. Demandarin I respect you for all the work you've done for us and how positive you've been but don't go as far as lying.... I should be able to run this game on my supposed top of the line tablet with a quad core processor without modifying anything at all. Yet I can't. Game experiences on this tablet have been horrible even with Tegra 3 optimized games.
Sorry if I'm coming out strong but I'm damned tired of this. I have to rma my tablet again just to be able to ota update. Really? Really? Can't even unlock for goodness sakes...
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What's to lie about? Nova3 and all other games do play fine on my Nexus 7. The framerate not slow either. Like I said, it plays great on my NEXUS 7. now for Prime, Nova3 seems to like to crash on mines. So as of now, I honestly don't know how it plays on my prime. But I do have it for my Nexus 7. Even with full effects, nexus 7 handles it with ease. Prime has software shortcomings that is likely what you are experiencing. Plus you have to REMEMBER THIS, EVERYONE PRIME BEHAVES DIFFERENTLY. SO IF THE NEXT MAN SAYS THE GAME WORKS FINE ON HIS PRIME, THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE HIS WORD FOR IT. IF YOU DONT, PEOPLE WONT BELIEVE YOU EITHER. JUST LIKE NOT EVERYONE PRIME BEHAVES THE SAME AFTER AN UPDATE.
PEOPLE NEED TO STOP ASSUMING THAT JUST BECAUSE YOUR DEVICE SEEMS to Run the game slower, everyone else's must also. PEOPLE ASSUME TO DAMN MUCH UP HERE. These devices are not all the same, unfortunately.
I have to agee with demandarim. I have a prime with 0 wifi issues, unlike most.. also I have mine rooted and clocked to 1.6ghz, also with no issues at all.. Since alot of people have issues with those I agree that no two prime are 100% equil
And if it runs well on other Tegra3 devices like the Nexus 7 .. Then it might be a issues with the Asus software.
I know were not even on a 3.x.x kernel yet.. we have 2.6.39.4.. even that might be an issue..
There is a lot of reasons youre's might be slow.. You can wait for Asus to release new firmware that might resolve you're issues, or you can load a custom rom, that is useing different firmware for you're hardware that is more based around performance.
Everyone here is willing to take there Desktop PC, load the latest drivers for there screencard or what ever, imagen you had to wait for a new release to update the driver? Like complaining Ubuntu 10.2 is craps compared to Ubuntu 11.1cause it doesn't run well on you're Alienware Desktop.. No.. you update the it... cause it fixes it! So if you would update you're out of the box Desktop for 25 more FPS, then THATS WHY WE BOUGHT ANDROID AND NOT APPEL... cause with a little tweaking its better..
appel is like flying business class.. its just fine.. Android/linux is like flying first class, you just get the bolts and spanner on you way in to fasten your seat.. so with a little tweak is better, or you fail to tighten the bolts, and then you complain on XDA forums
I think you should also remember that your chinese tablet has an 800x480 screen, not 1280x800. That's a HUGE different in pixel count, so a slower/cheaper SOC can easily push 30+ frames a second to that screen.
Its just like all other Gameloft games, they are not optimized at all to run with QuadCores or Tegra3 devices. Order and Chaos has the same issues, it doesn't have mind blowing effects and still runs at 24ish fps. Hell even Asphalt 6 doesn't feel like running at 60 fps. While other games with far, far better graphics run smooth like butter even when connected to the TV.
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I think you should also remember that your chinese tablet has an 800x480 screen, not 1280x800. That's a HUGE different in pixel count, so a slower/cheaper SOC can easily push 30+ frames a second to that screen.
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chinese tabet is 1280x800 so its not any less,
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chinese tabet is 1280x800 so its not any less,
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Really? Which one do you have?
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Really? Which one do you have?
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latest Window N101 it also has a chinese name yuanduo n101 or something like that, for 200 bones its a good deal, capacitive multi touch 10 point ips screen, ics 4.0.4. rooted etc. hd screen and plays 720p files smoothly, not tested 1080p it has a dual core rockchip 3066 and quad core mali 400 gpu tablet itself is really nice, i thought the asus would have have performed better than the cheap chinese one, but obviously not in this case, its probably gameloft being lazy and not optimizing for tegra as all tegra games run really smooth even in high activity scenes, large environments, etc.
still peed off thogh
just figured i'd chime in again (because of the controversy,lol)...
i was running androwook 2.1 with motley's lite kernel, o'ced to 1.8
the last time i checked out NOVA3(actually the only time i played it).
i went through a couple of levels and didn't have any issues on my Prime.
lately, i have been running team EOS Jelly Bean, and benchmarks have been down,
even from stock ROM, so i haven't tried to run it lately.
i have been playing Riptide GP tho, and it is still smokin fast!
Since upgrading to JB and updating Dead Trigger, I have only noticed one hiccup right when loading a level, and then no more lag through the rest of the level. Before the update and on ICS the game lagged like crazy for the first 30 seconds then finally cleared up. I'm not sure which one fixed it, but perhaps you should check out the JB rom as well...
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I have to agee with demandarim. I have a prime with 0 wifi issues, unlike most.. also I have mine rooted and clocked to 1.6ghz, also with no issues at all.. Since alot of people have issues with those I agree that no two prime are 100% equil
And if it runs well on other Tegra3 devices like the Nexus 7 .. Then it might be a issues with the Asus software.
I know were not even on a 3.x.x kernel yet.. we have 2.6.39.4.. even that might be an issue..
There is a lot of reasons youre's might be slow.. You can wait for Asus to release new firmware that might resolve you're issues, or you can load a custom rom, that is useing different firmware for you're hardware that is more based around performance.
Everyone here is willing to take there Desktop PC, load the latest drivers for there screencard or what ever, imagen you had to wait for a new release to update the driver? Like complaining Ubuntu 10.2 is craps compared to Ubuntu 11.1cause it doesn't run well on you're Alienware Desktop.. No.. you update the it... cause it fixes it! So if you would update you're out of the box Desktop for 25 more FPS, then THATS WHY WE BOUGHT ANDROID AND NOT APPEL... cause with a little tweaking its better..
appel is like flying business class.. its just fine.. Android/linux is like flying first class, you just get the bolts and spanner on you way in to fasten your seat.. so with a little tweak is better, or you fail to tighten the bolts, and then you complain on XDA forums
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1. Linux Kernel 3.1.1 vs 2.6.39.4 hardly matters.....
Perhaps you didn't know but Linux Kernel 3+ is really 2.6.40 but Linus Torvald simply renamed it to Linux Kernel 3.0...
The changes between the two kernel is minimal (of course, higher is always better in theory.. but here... it is extremely minimal)
If people want to discuss kernel & drivers..... and need someone to blame for multiple issues we have currently... look towards Nvidia FIRST & Asus 2nd (Asus is customer of Nvidia... and they are binded to their work.. sadly)
2. Tegra 3 SoC... no matter how much.. umm.. someone tells you... IS NOT A POWER SoC. It focuses mainly on battery performance (thus the 4+1 technology)... although.. sadly, it doesn't really perform that well in this category either if you look at smartphone sector (S4 HTC One X > Tegra 3 HTC One X).
Anyways, especially with single I/O memory controller, poor kernel/driver integration by Nvidia & Asus (this is assumption), and not very powerful GPU (yes, in terms of raw power... Tegra 3 is crap compared to other GPUs)..... IT CAN HAVE ISSUES during Graphic Intensive Games. IT CAN... as in... if we take Prime for example.... it behaves very radically from device to device.... thus... some will be unfortunate & some very fortunate.
3. I doubt Google wants Android to be portrayed as "tweaker" device. Google's trying their hardest to appeal to the mass public with Nexus 7..... Btw, all the updates & etc you speak of with Desktop.... going from Ubuntu 10.2 to Ubuntu 11.1 are OFFICIAL support. Custom ROMs are not....
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Don't give us this bull****... Yes it may play without problem but it's not fully smooth. Runs like a 24 fps movie. Hell the loading times are abysmal. Demandarin I respect you for all the work you've done for us and how positive you've been but don't go as far as lying.... I should be able to run this game on my supposed top of the line tablet with a quad core processor without modifying anything at all. Yet I can't. Game experiences on this tablet have been horrible even with Tegra 3 optimized games.
Sorry if I'm coming out strong but I'm damned tired of this. I have to rma my tablet again just to be able to ota update. Really? Really? Can't even unlock for goodness sakes...
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This. I couldnt agree more. I was looking for NOVA 3 lag fixes on my Nexus 7 and came across similar posts stating how smooth the game is. It's not smooth. The frame rate is ****. Seems like all of Gamelofts recent titles, lag to hell on Tegra 3. (Amazing Spiderman, Modern Combat 3, Nova 3). Look at videos of Nova 3 running on the Galaxy S3. Now that is smooth.
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This. I couldnt agree more. I was looking for NOVA 3 lag fixes on my Nexus 7 and came across similar posts stating how smooth the game is. It's not smooth. The frame rate is ****. Seems like all of Gamelofts recent titles, lag to hell on Tegra 3. (Amazing Spiderman, Modern Combat 3, Nova 3). Look at videos of Nova 3 running on the Galaxy S3. Now that is smooth.
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Yup they all lag on my N7 and Prime, although there is some hope: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780587 hopefully its true they are working on optimizations for the Tegra 3 platform.
that is bs
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My nexus 7 plays nova3 with no lag at all...full effects
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Dude that is b.s.No offence.you can't install chainfire3D,hence no full effects.TEGRA 3 DOES NOT GET FULL EFFECTS ON NOVA 3.You don't see fire and smoke on the building at the right side in the first level, before you jump off the building you crashed into.Secondly it does lag very badly especially in multiplayer,I am on 620mhz GPU overclock with 1.6ghz CPU with smoothrom 4.1 android 4.1.2
I don't know about Nova 3, but I have to agree that Wild Blood for example is not smooth at all on my Prime.
Backstab on the other hand seems much smoother.
I'll try Nova 3 and let you know. ( Using Latest Energy Rom).
anybody know a good rom that will run the game black ops zombies?? i currently have cyanogen mod 7and it will just freeze in one of the boot screens then i tried setting set cpu to max 1400 and it actually went a bit further but froze in another screen.. i also tried the game on my mytouch 4g and it runs nice and smooth no problems.. any recommendations??
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anybody know a good rom that will run the game black ops zombies?? i currently have cyanogen mod 7and it will just freeze in one of the boot screens then i tried setting set cpu to max 1400 and it actually went a bit further but froze in another screen.. i also tried the game on my mytouch 4g and it runs nice and smooth no problems.. any recommendations??
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You need to run it on a ROM that supports hardware acceleration. Froyo based, ICS, and Jellybean would make it work the way you want it to. Gingerbread and honeycomb ROMs don't have true hardware acceleration for it.
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Do you know a good rom that also has camera and hardware acceleration? ?
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For camera support current only froyo based ROMs. With all those flavors to choose from the one I liked is Beast. One of the best UI's I have used. I don't use camera so I am using the jellybean ROMs. Fosser is hard at work on getting camera and progress is going good.
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thanks a lot i appreciate the help.. i switched to beast and everything is went good one of the games ran perfect but i cannot install the other 3.. it keeps telling me theres a problem parsing the package and i cannot install it thats the only thing stopping me from success
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thanks a lot i appreciate the help.. i switched to beast and everything is went good one of the games ran perfect but i cannot install the other 3.. it keeps telling me theres a problem parsing the package and i cannot install it thats the only thing stopping me from success
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Sounds like to me that it is Currently not compatible with the legacy ROM's or may never be. Can you boot the Jellybean ROM's? I just released a great UI on the Dev forms that more then likely work for it. If you can load it just perform the initial setup settings as posted. My son is currently playing Minecraft Demo version flawless. It wouldn't play on my PC and it has 2 gig memory.
The only bad thing is that camera doesn't work right now, but a USB camera will work without a issue.
Found a thread with the trick to getting Tegra 4 graphics on our Note 3's. Our device is more than capable of running this so it's BS that Madfinger and other devs do this crap. Give thanks to "lm that guy" in the original thread linked below.
Tegra 4 Graphics: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496204
Dead Trigger 2 Download: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.madfingergames.deadtrigger2
Enjoy!!!!
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Found a thread with the trick to getting Tegra 4 graphics on our Note 3's. Our device is more than capable of running this so it's BS that Madfinger and other devs do this crap. Give thanks to "lm that guy" in the original thread linked below.
Tegra 4 Graphics: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496204
Dead Trigger 2 Download: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.madfingergames.deadtrigger2
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I tried this on the Nexus 7 Grouper and it was almost perfect. You can notice very tiny lag when looking at the reflective water, so I expect that any other device out there such as the Galaxy S4 and Note 2 can run it no problems.
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I tried this on the Nexus 7 Grouper and it was almost perfect. You can notice very tiny lag when looking at the reflective water, so I expect that any other device out there such as the Galaxy S4 and Note 2 can run it no problems.
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It was unplayable laggy on my Grouper, might have been the level I was on. The N7 ROMs based on CM are a mess and don't allow custom kernels without what I consider major problems. Not sure what's going on there.
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It was unplayable laggy on my Grouper, might have been the level I was on. The N7 ROMs based on CM are a mess and don't allow custom kernels without what I consider major problems. Not sure what's going on there.
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Yup you were right depends on the level. First level plays pretty stable. Indoor levels are a disaster. The game is pretty damn optimized if it stays as stable as it does. It is playable on mine, just unpleasant to play, not a dramatic lag. I'm pretty pissed i waited all summer for this game, never released then, and now that it is it requires you to be connected to some sort of internet all the time to play. Groupers depend on wifi, i live in NYC where the best time to play is while on the buses. Buses don't have wifi?!?! How am I to play lol. And my Nexus 7 is mint but the wifi is pretty crappy compared to my girls which has some wear, so here at home even with a good connection i encounter issues playing and the loading also depends on internet believe it or not.
As for roms for the Nexus 7, go with SmoothRom 5.2. Its AOKP based instead of CM. If you've done your homework, AOKP is claimed to be glitchy, but that really doesnt apply to the Nexus 7. And SmoothRom is 99% stable, no crashes, no "Unfortunately BlaBlaBla has stopped working," no fluttering graphical glitches. The 1% instability goes to the fact that at times the stock AOSP browser's Back/Forward/Refresh buttons dissapear. Its stable for daily use. I have it installed on mine and my girls. Only con is that its still stuck on 4.2.2 but the preformance IMO exceeds 4.3 with the tweaks it has.
Kernel-wise, I use M-Kernel to reach the crazy 1.6GHz although I never really clock it that high except when testing preformance differences (it can reach 1.7GHz, the secret is it must be on a single core as NVIDIA points out on their Tegra 3). Franco Kernel gives nice battery life, but theres occasional slowdowns on the entire rom and freezes, at times complete system crashes (not sure if thats only with this rom, i know the latest updates to that kernel suddenly brought that).
So if your looking for a stable, fast, reaponsive rom for the Grouper, think SmoothRom. Kernel is up to you.
I will look in to that ROM, thanks for the heads up.
Sick graphics
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I will look in to that ROM, thanks for the heads up.
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No problem! You wont regret it let me know how it works out! I'm now testing this on the LG Optimus G...wish me luck!
I'm using the Root Browser in Rom Toolbox. I can edit the value in the XML, and it says it's saving, but when I go back in to the file my edit is reverted back to the original.
How can I tell visually if the ultra high graphics are actually enabled?
So, I have a major problem, currently I'm on CM12.1, Latest build by lokjianming, but pretty much all of my games are running bad? Like, it's struggling to keep up, although it should easily be able to cope on this modern phone, stuff like Temple run 2 and Osmos HD, they're all stupidly choppy! I need help.
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I need help.
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Return to Global stable 7.0.12.0. Very good game's perfomanse here
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So, I have a major problem, currently I'm on CM12.1, Latest build by lokjianming, but pretty much all of my games are running bad? Like, it's struggling to keep up, although it should easily be able to cope on this modern phone, stuff like Temple run 2 and Osmos HD, they're all stupidly choppy! I need help.
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sadly, imo there is no other stable gaming rom than MIUI for redmi note 2 (until now)
just reflash to MIUI, and you wont get disappointed
Unfortunately, very bad optimization of apps and games. The same problem on htc e9 and meizu mx5, they too have mtk6795. We must wait. Someone says "deal with it"
(sorry for my eng plz, i'm ukrainian)
Im running Miui and playing need for speed no limite run fine for me without lags.
If you buy a 2 Chevaux or Fiat 500 you want get performance of a Mercedes or Bmw !!!
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If you buy a 2 Chevaux or Fiat 500 you want get performance of a Mercedes or Bmw !!!
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but this phone has the power. im gaming fine even with cpu underclocked
its his unstable rom causing problems
Just take it easy, this phone was released 4 months ago, and we have CM builds !! Honestly I never excpect to have them this quick, we just have to wait for developers to deal with MTK and its mistical source code.
This the latest (leak) china rom stable: http://bigota.d.miui.com/V7.1.1.0.LHMCNCK/miui_HMNote2_V7.1.1.0.LHMCNCK_dc250ba711_5.0.zip
Working very very well, fast and smooth, for a moment the best rom i tried (I tried all roms, cm, aosp, miui, international, china, russian...)
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but this phone has the power. im gaming fine even with cpu underclocked
its his unstable rom causing problems
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I have zero issues with the same cm 12.1. ROM and all heavy 3d games run flawless here. So why do you talk crap about his ROM and it being unstable when it's not? Also it does actually @ludoke have the power of a Mercedes to be honest. Lol. I am very surprised about its "power" tbh.
Try to while your dalvik and cache and see if that helps.
I also DLL the temple run because i dont play it, but it worked fine here. No stuttering or problems so something else must be causing it I reckon.
The only problem I have with games is battery draining but performance is ok. I have 0 lag or fc on bule's CM.
The Helio X10 has a pretty bad gpu. Similar to the old Snapdragon 600 or S4 Pro.
If you want to play games, then get something with the Snapdragon 801 like the infocus m810t. Or the Mi 4c with the Snapdragon 808.
For the next 1 year I need to use this but its the last time I buy a device with miui stock.. I hate the closed source and bad too for mediatek..