What your thoughts one the OP3? Upgrade? - OnePlus 2 General

I'm not liking the design at all.

evertking said:
I'm not liking the design at all.
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No... Not at all
My op2 didn't even complete a year
I change phones at least after 2 years of use
So maybe will look forward for op4

OP is going to release the final OxygenOS MM and maybe they will release also the OPT's Android 6 Device Tree, I don't think OP3 will be a great choice if they doesn't release Device Tree ASAP, cause modding needs it.
So, yep OP3 has a better hardware, I like that design, but OPT is still a good device. With OPT complete Device Tree we will get a fully working MultiROM, better custom roms, better customizations...And I don't want to face again the lack of sources on a device.
My next device? Maybe a Nexus.

Doesn't look overly inspiring to me. That said, there's nothing else on the market at the moment I'm that interested in.
Was the 6gb version just speculation, then? I quite liked the idea, even though that's a completely pointless amount of RAM to have on a phone

Wouldnt buy a phone with its specs for more than 300€. Considering OnePlus 3 will ship with android lollipop lol
This phone is good enough until 2018 or so if OnePlus release MM sources or update to N (dreaming)

Here is the link:
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i will go for the op4, the only thing i dont like about the op2 is the heat sometimes (lets see how its going on summer )

I'll give it a go. I was happy with the op2, dodgy battery life but a good camera on a sub £300 phone with 64gb storage. At the end of the day that's enough for doing daily stuff.
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Oneplus never again. I'm still waiting them to release the sources
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I would stick with OP2. There is not much difference in the specs department of the two phones. And once the kernel sources are released for MM, the development will flourish and I don't think we would have to wait so long for CM 14 like we did for CM 13. Also, I would refrain from buying OP devices and would simply go for nexus.

The main thing I like about my OP2 is that it has its own individual design and stands out from the crowd. The OP3 looks like any other phone out there. I think this is a bad move on oneplus's part.
Hopefully they'll realise their mistake and go back to what they do best with the OP4. Based on the leaked specs it's not worth upgrading from the OP2 anyway.
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I love the wooden backcovers on my OP2, one of the reasons I bought it and OP3 doesnt seem to have changeable backcovers. So no OP3 for me, if the leaked design is real.

Also now when eSIM seems to be on the rise, soon there won't be any need for phones with multiple SIM slots to have support for multiple phone providers. Instead we can have support for multiple SD-cards instead ?

No sandstone, no upgrade...

Its under 400$ ill upgrade ... I like the design it's op2+htc10 = op3
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alsybub01 said:
The main thing I like about my OP2 is that it has its own individual design and stands out from the crowd. The OP3 looks like any other phone out there. I think this is a bad move on oneplus's part.
Hopefully they'll realise their mistake and go back to what they do best with the OP4. Based on the leaked specs it's not worth upgrading from the OP2 anyway
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Agreed. I really like the design of the OP2. If I wanted a phone that looked like an HTC, I'd buy an HTC.

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Never Settle... Oh Really

I think the only way to get Opposition to change their tune is to complain....
Lets see no shared source code for the phone. They somehow let the success go to their heads, and think that it was them who made the OnePlus a success and not the independent community.
Based on their response in the past, the only way they change course is if they see a lot of people complaining.
The funniest thing is that the box says "Created together with our fans <3".
But seriously, we know that you are frustrated about this. But don't post it around. It already happends a lot.
Psyscope said:
I think the only way to get Opposition to change their tune is to complain....
Lets see no shared source code for the phone. They somehow let the success go to their heads, and think that it was them who made the OnePlus a success and not the independent community.
Based on their response in the past, the only way they change course is if they see a lot of people complaining.
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I totally disagree. If you don't like the companies behavior or their product you can just buy an iPhone to think different or go for a nice Nokia 5110. Still connecting people those days.
IMHO I think they do a pretty great job for such a small company. The phone has great build quality, superb ingredients, regular software updates and the OS is stable as hell. Just look at that super high end S6 Edge for example. Great piece of metal and glas but laggy as hell compared to our OP2.
For me that's the best smartphone I have had so far and I already shared some invites to some friends and neighbors. And no one so far complained to me about a missing open source git tree.
I agree with you in that way that it would be nice to have CM12 with fingerprint and laser autofocus. But who can blame a company for protecting their work? No big Android manufacturer released their source code as far as I know.
da_anton said:
I totally disagree. If you don't like the companies behavior or their product you can just buy an iPhone to think different or go for a nice Nokia 5110. Still connecting people those days.
IMHO I think they do a pretty great job for such a small company. The phone has great build quality, superb ingredients, regular software updates and the OS is stable as hell. Just look at that super high end S6 Edge for example. Great piece of metal and glas but laggy as hell compared to our OP2.
For me that's the best smartphone I have had so far and I already shared some invites to some friends and neighbors. And no one so far complained to me about a missing open source git tree.
I agree with you in that way that it would be nice to have CM12 with fingerprint and laser autofocus. But who can blame a company for protecting their work? No big Android manufacturer released their source code as far as I know.
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LOL
Seems that those who are happy with stock OS haven't ever tried any custom ROM based on CM
That's how the things should be done!
OP2 stock OS (oxygenOS) is crap, hate it.
When I tap on "Phone" app icon why it takes an app about 1 second to launch? Snapdragon 810, 4 gigs of RAM???
Really? What the heck? My 10 year old Nokia 3230 opens phone app with the same speed.
There are a lot of others examples how this ****ty oxygenOS spoil experience with beautiful hardware.
On AICP, for example, "Phone" app launches instantly.
I really miss FP sometimes, hope with CM13 finger print sensor will become functional.
So, phone itself is a superb piece of hardware, but oxygenOS is a piece of ...
jemcik said:
OP2 stock OS (oxygenOS) is crap, hate it.
When I tap on "Phone" app icon why it takes an app about 1 second to launch? Snapdragon 810, 4 gigs of RAM???
Really? What the heck?
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It's the oneplus launcher. Try another launcher like Google, nova or even CM launcher. Oxygen OS is basically stock with some customizations which are quite nice and which have nothing to do with performance. You can tweak it pretty much the same way you'd tweak the stock aosp. You can root it, install xposed, replace kernel. You can achieve a very nice result with Oxygen OS.
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alexeiz said:
It's the oneplus launcher. Try another launcher like Google, nova or even CM launcher. Oxygen OS is basically stock with some customizations which are quite nice and which have nothing to do with performance. You can tweak it pretty much the same way you'd tweak the stock aosp. You can root it, install xposed, replace kernel. You can achieve a very nice result with Oxygen OS.
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but what about a phone that works well out of the box
polar775 said:
but what about a phone that works well out of the box
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People who buy OnePlus 2 almost always want to customize it. That's the reason OPT is so easily unlockable and rootable. So for them the out of the box state should not be very important. That doesn't mean that OPT doesn't work out of the box. It works very well within my expectations. I think most of the problems with OPT are exaggerated.
But if you don't want to customize anything, but just enjoy the out of the box experience, OPT is not for you. You'd want a Samsung/LG/Sony phone which is locked down, so that its poor users can't escape the out of the box experience.
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alexeiz said:
People who buy OnePlus 2 almost always want to customize it. That's the reason OPT is so easily unlockable and rootable. So for them the out of the box state should not be very important. That doesn't mean that OPT doesn't work out of the box. It works very well within my expectations. I think most of the problems with OPT are exaggerated.
But if you don't want to customize anything, but just enjoy the out of the box experience, OPT is not for you. You'd want a Samsung/LG/Sony phone which is locked down, so that its poor users can't escape the out of the box experience.
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The thing is, it is not even that amzing for Customizing. Not yet at least. Not until OnePlus or Marshmallow comes along and fixes the LAF and FPS.
Psyscope said:
I think the only way to get Opposition to change their tune is to complain....
Lets see no shared source code for the phone. They somehow let the success go to their heads, and think that it was them who made the OnePlus a success and not the independent community.
Based on their response in the past, the only way they change course is if they see a lot of people complaining.
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See it's simple, OnePlus released enough source code that we could build such a stable CM12
The part where Oneplus can't release code is Autofocus and Fingerprint
Just wait for Marshmallow, since it will use Marshmallow API, we can directly use compiled OOS driver on Cm13 for fingerprint
The only thing I am worried about is LaF
Official Cm 13 is already in work
Check cyanogenmod's Github to see the progress
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Till then use hydrogen os 1.2 its better than oxygen os
alexeiz said:
People who buy OnePlus 2 almost always want to customize it. That's the reason OPT is so easily unlockable and rootable. So for them the out of the box state should not be very important. That doesn't mean that OPT doesn't work out of the box. It works very well within my expectations. I think most of the problems with OPT are exaggerated.
But if you don't want to customize anything, but just enjoy the out of the box experience, OPT is not for you. You'd want a Samsung/LG/Sony phone which is locked down, so that its poor users can't escape the out of the box experience.
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It seems to me there is no pleasing these people so no point in trying to use any form of logic on them. If it was that simple you could just use points like.
1. The 1+ company is brand new and offering amazing phones at unbeatable values.
2. No phone ever rolls off of the line perfect and bug free and usually takes at least 1 year to fix its major flaws.
3. Lollipop is the worst os Google has ever shoved out since the days of froyo.
4. Kernel sources were released super quickly unlike a lot of its competitors.
5. The fact you now got a fast desktop computer that can fit into your pocket is nothing more than simply amazing. When I was a kid in the early 90's just before the internet I had a pulsar computer which had a 16 mhz processor and 64 mb of ram and only had a 5" floppy disk drive. It came with windows 3.1 and only had 32 bit resolution and that was less than 25 years ago.
6. Be patient you cry babies. Didn't realize that a second of your time was the difference between life and death. Not only is the 1+2 not only a perfectly usable phone and everybody's over exaggerating problems with the device but marshmallow is about 10 days away from booting with 3 devs currently working on it.
I mean for Pete's sake I swear you guys would complain if somebody gave you a hundred dollar bill and it had an ink smudge on it.
Bottom line is you get what you pay for, but if your honestly expecting more bang for your buck than what you already have gotten I wish you the best of luck at finding it because when you get it you might find it not as good as you thought it would be. The 64 GB mi3 version of my phone ran about the same price as the 1+2 does now with a quad core sd801 and miui. Well it's been 2 years now and it only took them over 1 year to release kernel sources, miui has weekly updates that run on KitKat and are still really buggy, it lags down past 20 fps in 3d testing, the screen reacts before I even touch it if I don't have a screen protector on it, the radio in my phone is equivalent to the first gen iPhone (I usually sit between 2 and 3 bars out of 5 while my brothers 1+2 I had just bought for him sits at 3 to 5 it averages 4 bars mainly however it pegs out 5 bars just as often as it drops to 3 bars (I've never seen his lose signal for even a second). My phone will lose signal just driving down the road at times in the wide open rolling plains while his does not traveling in the same vehicle) so trust me for a Chinese phone you invested your money fairly well.
Sorry akexeiz I trailed off there while agreeing with you and got carried away but it needed to be said.
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It's just a marketing, guys...

Planning to buy opt

Ok so I've had enough of sammy phones. now i am planning to buy opt to be honest this is the only phone in my view right now.
but i read a lot about "home" and "fingerprint" not working or stopped working in few weeks or so.
i have a two questions regarding opt.
Should i buy this smartphone? If so why?
Is fingerprint and home button issue related to software or hardware?
its a good phone for the price. Development and updates are gonna come soon now, so you almost picked the perfect time. My fingerprint and homebutton has always been working fine and all I did was unlock, root and install some kernels for now. I think the problems are hardware related though. To be honest. If you can affort it, definitely go for a nexus 6p.
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im planning also to get this device, im confused if the 1+2 or the Redmi Note 3 pro.
It depends if you want a clean stock Android interface go for opt, if you want miui then go for mi note pro 3.
I personally would go for opt.
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Avoid it. I sold my OPT after 6 months. Fingerprint doesn't work as soon as any moisture touches it. No real developer interest - looks at the threads to see all the devs who left. The price used to be a great draw until the Nexus price drops. And at the end of the day, nothing will fix the SD 810 which is an overheating mess. It just doesn't work.
If price matters, get the N5X. If you want the best phone right now, get the S7 Edge.
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Ok so I've had enough of sammy phones. now i am planning to buy opt to be honest this is the only phone in my view right now.
but i read a lot about "home" and "fingerprint" not working or stopped working in few weeks or so.
i have a two questions regarding opt.
Should i buy this smartphone? If so why?
Is fingerprint and home button issue related to software or hardware?
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unless you get a used one on swappa or ebay for a deal, don't get it. I sold mine, Oxygen OS is terrible and even though there are custom roms where FP and LAF work, they are buggy. Wait for the Oneplus 3 or settle back for the original Oneplus One.
Love my OPT bought it in october and dont understand all the hate. Great overall experience. I ise exodus rom no bugs at all. But again all user choice. ?
Nexus 5 over heats way more than this device. fp and laf works perfect for me (only tested cm13 and exodus, though)
It's a great device, just buy it and dont think about it. The fingerprint Sensor is working awesome, much faster than the iPhone one. With the 3.0 update everything runs buttery smooth
I'd say it's really a gamble if you're buying the OPT since their tech support is flaky at best. The hardware specs are reasonable for the price and there are some good devs out there like Lord Boeffla and his kernel, however you will also have huge issues if your phone develops hardware problems. For example - some owners have setup a twitter account recently to badger Oneplus as they can't get any response from the local and official support channels after encountering hardware issues. I'd suggest taking the Nexus 5x instead as it is around the Oneplus price range and LG is a much larger and established company which will take RMA and support issues seriously.
my oneplus2 just arrived
I gotta say OS 3.0 on my OPT made the phone a million times better. Everything is super fast now and FP is even faster. Better life is much better now with 3.0. Before the update I wanted to throw the phone at the wall for all lags
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Won't suggest, better to go for a lower powered phone instead for the price.
Spec sheets are not everything
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Go for it.
I too am going to be getting myself a opt next week. I've been pretty loyal to samsung in general owned a nexus 6 but still came back. I'm selling the note 4 so effectively getting opt free.
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toanau said:
I gotta say OS 3.0 on my OPT made the phone a million times better. Everything is super fast now and FP is even faster. Better life is much better now with 3.0. Before the update I wanted to throw the phone at the wall for all lags
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Exactly my expreience as well. With the OOS 3.0 beta it's like a completely new phone. It doesn't get warm at all, the performance is actually what you would expect from a Snapdragon 810 and the battery life is what you would expect from 3300mAh. It was always kind of held back by the ****ty software but with the 3.0 beta working really well and official cyanogenmod on the way, I can't think of a better phone at this price.
I've had my OP2 since they were first released, and have to say I'm still really happy with it. As mentioned by others, OOS3 (and the recent CM13 builds) have made performance 10 times better, and have no major complaints. Never had any problems with the home button or anything else. It's a steal at the price, imo
Don't buy it. Unless they've changed their design around the home button/FP, its going to fail.
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Don't buy it. Unless they've changed their design around the home button/FP, its going to fail.
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Based on?
fuarkgl3 said:
Based on?
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Based on mine failing as well as a crap ton of others on this forum and oneplus community forum in the past month. I've raised this with OnePlus and they brushed it off, however they are RMA'ing my phone.
Trust me, I tried all the software tricks none of them worked for me.

Should i buy a OnePlus 2 or 5X?

Hi all,
I am at a bit of a loss here. I am an avid Nexus user (see sig below) though i want to like the OnePlus 2 though i keep reading horror stories and concerns about throttling, charging and performance issues over time. It's like they made an awesome phone though failed with the software implementation.
I am hoping like a lot of issues on devices that the XDA community has addressed these problems with a nice Custom ROM..
Can people give me some honest feedback regarding their experiences? I have read a lot of reviews though its all using the Factory ROM. I want to know how good the device can be with a good community rom.
Please let me know thanks very much.
Buy a 6P or wait for the new nexus, really looking forward to get rid of my OPT.
oneplus2 far much better than 5X
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Buy a 6P or wait for the new nexus, really looking forward to get rid of my OPT.
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6P is too big and too expensive. Why don't you like it?
Between 5x and op2
Op2 any day.. Much better than 5x
Op2 FTW.
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6P is too big and too expensive. Why don't you like it?
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OTP I've had too many small and big problems and bugs, I mean, the phone is usable but doesn't live up to it's specs and hype, software is the worst part of all, and if you are already a nexus user you will find annoying to wait for new versions of Android, also if you're into custom roms you should always stick to nexus.
And de 5X is too expensive for it's built and specs.
I mean personally I would think of other options, the Nexbit Robin seems really nice, or you can wait for the new phones that are coming.
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OTP I've had too many small and big problems and bugs, I mean, the phone is usable but doesn't live up to it's specs and hype, software is the worst part of all, and if you are already a nexus user you will find annoying to wait for new versions of Android, also if you're into custom roms you should always stick to nexus.
And de 5X is too expensive for it's built and specs.
I mean personally I would think of other options, the Nexbit Robin seems really nice, or you can wait for the new phones that are coming.
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You cannot go wrong with a Nexus - I am a OP 1 and 2 user. Came from Nexus 5(which still works).
OP2 now has everything working Custom ROM's but there are still niggles, which do not hamper you daily use. Community support is almost at par with Nexus. Fingerprint scanner is a bit fickle, I am having mine RMA'ed right now.
On the other hand... 5x is way to expensive for the specs being offered.. You could wait for new lineup this summer.. OP3, Motorola etc..
Obviously opt unless you want to settle for a less specifications mobile device for a higher price.
OP2 has better everything except OTAs which can be fixed with cyanogenmod. I'd pick up the OP2 or wait for the next nexus line.
Op2 is an awesome phone, just flash the latest hydrogen os build on it and compare it with a 5x... Everything in op2 is better even the camera...
Nexus 5X price is a joke. I would buy a N5 for 150$ before N5X lol
I wouldnt buy a phone with 2gb of ram and snapdragon 808 in 2016 anyways
I am also very satisfied with my 2. It just works rocking solid. And it has the best fingerprint Sensor out there, i really love it! So fast and accurate if you set it up correct.
But if i were you, i would wait for the 3. It should be out in july, so its not that long. If you want a phone now, just get the 2
got them both.
op2 has better specs.
5x feels cheaper, cooler, charges faster, has lower memory, lower ram, single sim and has a smaller screen.
both last 4-5hrs sot on my daily usage
personally i have my OPT on sale and have considered getting the nexus 5X instead (been some price drops here in uk). mainly because the OPT software is horrible, heats up quick, sluggish performance on stock rom, even though custom roms significantly improve the device its still doesnt feel like a flagship, i.e. some lag and small bugs here and there. in comparison my dads redmi note 3 and sisters OPO feel faster and snappier in comparison and in my side by side usage there both are smoother while scrolling.
also another thing ... people go crazy about specs and wanting a phone with the best possible hardware but they are forgetting the main thing the user experience. The oneplus 2 is culprit of this as it has the best specs but software is horrible that you are forced to use a custom rom
5x if the price is cheaper depending on your available sources. OPT very prone to fingerprint sensor failure and the RMA process apparently has been a nightmare to those unlucky enough to need a replacement or even any kind of hardware technical support really.
Go with anything other than OPT i regret now buying opt instead of Moto X variants or Nexus variant.
There is little to no support from the company for updates and they dont even release source code in time.
XDA community is there true but still isnt on par with devices who has their source code released.
It's been posted but compare the two and see what ya come out with.. On paper the OP2 is the better phone. I'm glad I got mine. I was down to the Nexus 6 or OP2 and I'm glad I did.
I'm sure your gonna root the thing.. So CM and updates will flow... So yeah.. Get the OP2
And despite what you have been told.. Oxygen 3.0 is a damn nice ROM. I was a slim ROM freak and I'm satisfied and very happy with MM update.. Yeah it's beta but it's rock solid.
Hell.. I would get a OPO over the 5X
Wait for new device.
A lot of users thinks oneplus2 is failed in China, me too.
Wish Oneplus3 will be better.
I am still with my OPT just because of the ability to use two SIM cards. That's just way more practical for combining work+private SIM. Atleast I prefer it over having to take two phones with me.
So if it wasn't for that, I would still be using my Nexus 5X, since there's just way better software support.
I hope the OnePlus 3 will change that.

Why is this phone so abandoned? :'(

Hi guys,
I feel it's really sad to see there are so few options to mod our Xperia phone.
I think Sony made a great phone with pretty good OS and feature set, as well as design, but we have almost zero modding options.
There's no official TWRP, which seems odd since there's an official one for the much similar Xperia X Performance...
Also, no Lineage, no custom ROMs other than a few ones that aren't really famous and well known like Lineage or others.
Do you guys know why is this phone so underrated? Is it so difficult to port ROMs to or are there just a few users?
Cheers
PS Still hope for an official Lineage/TWRP port... fingers crossed for now
Well there are two stock based roms and OmniRom for the xx, which is not too bad. There are also at least two twrp versions around that are not official, but do what they need to do. If you are used to Lineage you'll like Omni!
That said, Sony had hoped to sell double the number of devices in the x-series as they actually did. Unfortunately demand is not so high for midrange phones that perform as good as last year's premium phones.
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Well there are two stock based roms and OmniRom for the xx, which is not too bad. There are also at least two twrp versions around that are not official, but do what they need to do. If you are used to Lineage you'll like Omni!
That said, Sony had hoped to sell double the number of devices in the x-series as they actually did. Unfortunately demand is not so high for midrange phones that perform as good as last year's premium phones.
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I actually think that the demand for mid-rangers are actually fairly high if it was at the right price bracket.
The Xperia X with its $899 or was it $799NZD was actually on par with discounted flagships like the regular 32GB S7 making it a bad buy.
Likewise, I bought this phone when it was on special at $549 and while it's not exactly cheap, that is the price it should honestly be sold at.
It was a touch below the price of the Galaxy A5 2016 making this phone the more appealing premium mid-ranger.
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MrAndroid12 said:
I actually think that the demand for mid-rangers are actually fairly high if it was at the right price bracket.
The Xperia X with its $899 or was it $799NZD was actually on par with discounted flagships like the regular 32GB S7 making it a bad buy.
Likewise, I bought this phone when it was on special at $549 and while it's not exactly cheap, that is the price it should honestly be sold at.
It was a touch below the price of the Galaxy A5 2016 making this phone the more appealing premium mid-ranger.
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I agree that the xx was too expensive when it was introduced. I also bought it after the price had dropped .
Seriously guys? I actually got mine for a pretty good price (320 euros). That's not a lot for the phone's specs tbh.
Anyway I agree that there's some TWRP around, but how deep can a user trust a dropbox-hosted custom recovery made by who knows...
Not to disrespect by any means the dev behind it, but being this my main phone I'd prefer a more official recovery.
Also gotta try this OmniRom, seems a good project, but still no way of trying it without the proper twrp.
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Seriously guys? I actually got mine for a pretty good price (320 euros). That's not a lot for the phone's specs tbh.
Anyway I agree that there's some TWRP around, but how deep can a user trust a dropbox-hosted custom recovery made by who knows...
Not to disrespect by any means the dev behind it, but being this my main phone I'd prefer a more official recovery.
Also gotta try this OmniRom, seems a good project, but still no way of trying it without the proper twrp.
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I know right? I do not understand how they paid so much for this thing. I payed 320 months ago. Now it goes for as low as 280! For that price, you cannot get a better deal unless you want some chinese stuff. Personally I spent months researching phones at that price and this was the best.
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I know right? I do not understand how they paid so much for this thing. I payed 320 months ago. Now it goes for as low as 280! For that price, you cannot get a better deal unless you want some chinese stuff. Personally I spent months researching phones at that price and this was the best.
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Yeah it's a damn good deal at 300, and keep in mind i bought it some months ago when it was even better.
That being said the development behind it is terrible
JoeWan said:
Hi guys,
I feel it's really sad to see there are so few options to mod our Xperia phone.
I think Sony made a great phone with pretty good OS and feature set, as well as design, but we have almost zero modding options.
There's no official TWRP, which seems odd since there's an official one for the much similar Xperia X Performance...
Also, no Lineage, no custom ROMs other than a few ones that aren't really famous and well known like Lineage or others.
Do you guys know why is this phone so underrated? Is it so difficult to port ROMs to or are there just a few users?
Cheers
PS Still hope for an official Lineage/TWRP port... fingers crossed for now
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to answer you question, you have to consider SONY's health as business entity! the company had 2.3+ Billion losses in 2015 even with z5 and z5p on their side! (there are many reasons for that)
1. they don't usually link their devices with careers (like samsung does)
2. only gsm
3 poor marketing (the biggest)
4 drmkeys concept (for developers)
now when Xperia X was launched when sony dumped whole Z project and never released Z6 , (may be XZP is another name of z6p) . also X was never released in many countries! in my country there is no Xperia dealer and i order them from dubai.
when extremely talented devices gets extinct, you don't see much activity in developer world also! , If you wana see the most successful and popular ever xperia! , in my opinion Xperia Z (C6602/03 ) is the king. there are so many roms, tweaks, recoveries, for that device! Sony was down very well that time!
now, coming back to X, i have X, its nice phone, today got 7.1.1 from sony. so they haven't completely abandon it; its just its not a very popular device in developer world
I got my XX almost a year ago. Used it like 4 months as my only phone, then as a jukebox when I got a Honor 8 and then an OnePlus 3T, those are good phones but there's something I like of my Xperia X, that's why I installed an Android 7.1.2 concept ROM and I'm using it again. Can't believe the screen is sharper and clearer in the sunset than the OP3T! Also, audio and video recorder is superior than Honor 8 and OP3T.
Even if I hate the fingerprint scanner location, I like my Xperia and I'm currently using it as my daily phone again, while I'm experimenting with the OP3T.
Too bad developers don't have too much interest on this nice piece of phone.

It's time to say goodbye - farewell OP rant

As a former huge OnePlus fan, it's time to say goodbye. I never upgraded after the 2, the phones got more expensive and the upgraded features didn't justify the additional cost. I've been running my OnePlus 2 on DU 11.5 for months now, the ROM development just never got to where we all hoped it to be. I blame OnePlus for this not giving the developers the tools needed and really hindering their success opportunities.
A huge thanks to all the devs who have and still put work into keeping this phone development alive. Until we meet again.
As for where I'm going. I'm a 2 phone guy, one for work and one for personal. I'll be switching my personal over to the Samsung A5(2017) which is an incredible phone. And my corporate phone will be an iPhone 7...
Farewell. I'm personally not buying OnePlus again.
Oneplus is still using USB 2.0 in the OP5, over 2 years after the type C spec was published. There is still issues with jpeg compression in their phone app and it is not adjustable. Not releasing decent camera blobs for devs to use in their roms, etc. Oh yeah, premium pricing too. No thanks, I am done with them too.
My carrier has the LG G6 on sale right now, I think I'm gonna try that. I love the idea of a wide angle lens, and the Google camera app with HDR+ is confirmed working on it.
Murbert said:
Oneplus is still using USB 2.0 in the OP5, over 2 years after the type C spec was published. There is still issues with jpeg compression in their phone app and it is not adjustable. Not releasing decent camera blobs for devs to use in their roms, etc. Oh yeah, premium pricing too. No thanks, I am done with them too.
My carrier has the LG G6 on sale right now, I think I'm gonna try that. I love the idea of a wide angle lens, and the Google camera app with HDR+ is confirmed working on it.
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That phone doesn't have an led notification. Just saying.
utkarsh102 said:
That phone doesn't have an led notification. Just saying.
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The OP5 doesn't have LED notification?
Murbert said:
The OP5 doesn't have LED notification?
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Lg g6
Farewell!!
Yeah, I have enjoyed my one plus 2 also but the lack of decent support from the company has turned me off from them. Around the beginning or middle of next month I will be switching to something else. Farewell OP2
OP2 is still a decent phone even in 2017. It's all about finding the right rom for your needs. But yeah.. OP is a terrible company and have forgotten what made them great in the past.
Kirahvi said:
OP2 is still a decent phone even in 2017. It's all about finding the right rom for your needs. But yeah.. OP is a terrible company and have forgotten what made them great in the past.
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This sums up my thoughts too. I'm happy with my OP2 for now but when it comes time to change I won't buy another OP.
What if I told you that OnePlus provided the tools, but no one here ever made efficient use of them since Grarak left?
This device still has life and its still a solid phone. I just got it and my intention is to improve it.
CertifiedBlyndGuy said:
What if I told you that OnePlus provided the tools, but no one here ever made efficient use of them since Grarak left?
This device still has life and its still a solid phone. I just got it and my intention is to improve it.
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I would say yey new ROM !
There seems to be some good devs working on the phone still so would be surprised if they where all missing something.
I'l just dreaming about Google doing affordable Nexus devices again ... They would be so successful I'm sure. I first bought the 2 because the 6P was too expensive for me, but I still don't know about any other company which is "developer friendly" as OnePlus and Google. So yeah I'm stuck buying ****ty devices from a brand who doesn't car about their customers
Never settle. Yeah right.
Some good points here, yes, OP2 is still a good phone even in 2017. OnePlus turned it's back on it in pursuit for more ka-chiiiing, and 3, 3T or 5 haven't done much to make them sooo much better. But prices, oh my. Just got OnePlus spam in my mail, new OP5 model with more memory already! What? How much?
6GB RAM + 64GB Storage
499,00 €
8GB RAM + 128GB Storage
559,00 €
So I went to see my order from february 2016. I got 64GB one at the time when 32GB was available. Mine was 345€ minus 40€ for coupon. So 305€. Guess what OnePlus, I won't be settling.
Dac0908 said:
Never settle. Yeah right.
Some good points here, yes, OP2 is still a good phone even in 2017. OnePlus turned it's back on it in pursuit for more ka-chiiiing, and 3, 3T or 5 haven't done much to make them sooo much better. But prices, oh my. Just got OnePlus spam in my mail, new OP5 model with more memory already! What? How much?
6GB RAM + 64GB Storage
499,00 €
8GB RAM + 128GB Storage
559,00 €
So I went to see my order from february 2016. I got 64GB one at the time when 32GB was available. Mine was 345€ minus 40€ for coupon. So 305€. Guess what OnePlus, I won't be settling.
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OP2 is still a good phone even in 2017
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Come on, stop. OnePlus 2 was not a good phone, is not a good phone and would never be a good phone.
How can you say it's a good phone when you see User Experience is so bad with the Snapdragon 810, when there is so much thermal throttling every time you are doing something on the phone ? (don't talk about underclock / overclock / custom kernel / etc, those are elements which are flashed after by the user, and are not relevant for every users).
When you can see that you can buy a OnePlus 3T for 350E on Ebay (what I did, phone is in perfect condition), you should not even consider buying the OnePlus 2.
Never had those problems, but I am not using it for games. Phone works just fine - not saying it is (or ever was) a great phone, just a reasonably good one. Mostly let down by software and company which became greedy, and yes, while being the latest thing at the time Snapdragon 810 wasn't that good. Still it works for all basic needs, even after 2 years specs are almost impressive and user experience can be ok. *Not* a power-user experience.
Not comparing it to flagships because it never really was in that category, and you also should put it in it's price bracket, you bought used 3T for 350€ while OP2 when new was 300€. So there's that. After having it for a year and a half I am surely not considering buying another one or recommending someone to get OP2 or any OP actually. For that user experience and satisfaction should be on higher level.
Actually i will buy oneplus again. Why, because it's cheaper then the rivals much cheaper. And i really like my oneplus 2, spent 100 euros for it, really cheap and good phone.
Valneo said:
I'l just dreaming about Google doing affordable Nexus devices again ... They would be so successful I'm sure. I first bought the 2 because the 6P was too expensive for me, but I still don't know about any other company which is "developer friendly" as OnePlus and Google. So yeah I'm stuck buying ****ty devices from a brand who doesn't car about their customers
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Me too on that one...
Bought a Nexus 4 towards the end of them selling out for like £150 or something, was a brilliant phone even though I replaced god knows how many screens and back's on it but was a great great phone
Efforts will be put in getting Oreo up for the OP2, specifically halogenOS 8.0
Any help is appreciated, if you want to submit patches, do so via review.halogenos.org, otherwise, if you have a device tree, let us know.
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What if I told you that OnePlus provided the tools, but no one here ever made efficient use of them since Grarak left?
This device still has life and its still a solid phone. I just got it and my intention is to improve it.
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Hi CertifiedBlyndGuy, if I am not wrong then you're the AOSPA maintainer for OnePlus X. Are you building AOSPA for OnePlus 2 as well ?

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