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I currently own an International SGS2 GT-I9100 and i heard that the Exynos chip is better than that of the US variants even though they are cocked @1.5Ghz. Can someone clarify this for me please. Thank you very much.
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It's because they use different processors. Look, the Nexus One and the Nexus S both have their CPU's clocked at 1GHz. However, the Nexus S outperforms the Nexus One. The actual performance is the result of more than just the raw speed of the processor.
Just like the megapixels don't tell you s**t about the actual image-quality.
This is just a general explanation and I can't tell you if or how much better the international version is.
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http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6425/51292.png
As you can see here the nexus 4 scores much lower than the galaxy s3 running the dual core s4. These benchmarks shouldn't even be taken with a grain of salt if the dual core s4 out performs the quad core by such a large margin. Now I know this involves the 4, but I wonder if the same could be applied to the nexus 10. For example the nexus 10's sunspider benchmark is about half that of the chromebook and they have the same cpu at the same clock speed.
Look here how much higher the optimus g scores than the nexus 4.
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My S3 is a quad not a dual. PS, note the resolutions?
MentaLrz said:
My S3 is a quad not a dual. PS, note the resolutions?
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I know the international version is quad core, but it doesn't use the s4 quad. The tmobile galaxy s3 uses snapdragon s4 dual core. The resolutions are the same I believe due to the three buttons for home and such on the display. Also the resolution wouldn't affect sunspider or other cpu benchmarks.
On the nexus 4 the cpu under clocks itself because it gets too hot.
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ian1 said:
On the nexus 4 the cpu under clocks itself because it gets too hot.
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I didn't read anything where they mentioned the cpu underclocking itself. How can this be true if the optimus g is almost it's clone and doesn't have these issues? If I could get some links it would be greatly appreciated.
tcb4 said:
I didn't read anything where they mentioned the cpu underclocking itself. How can this be true if the optimus g is almost it's clone and doesn't have these issues? If I could get some links it would be greatly appreciated.
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It is in that very (mini) review you posted from anandtech, I am a huge follower of them, just Ctrl+F the word hot, I bet you will find out where they mentioned that the nexus 4 runs hot.
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akash3656 said:
It is in that very (mini) review you posted from anandtech, I am a huge follower of them, just Ctrl+F the word hot, I bet you will find out where they mentioned that the nexus 4 runs hot.
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I searched for the word hot in their review and it didn't find any results. Either way does it mention that it underclocks due to the heat?
I have to believe that the performance in only going to get much much better with future updates from Google.. The result clearly show how premature the kernel is for 4.2.. Show in the N10 and the N4
It's quite possible that the benchmarks produce BS results.
philosopher09 said:
It's quite possible that the benchmarks produce BS results.
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Im with you this... I highly doubt the iphone 5 outperforms my S3.
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Damn my infinity almost topped the iphone 5 in browser mark, here are some quadrant n sunspider. I was thinking of selling this beast 4 the n10 but nvm..
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Oh wait i did lol didnt notice by 6,000 points haaa iphone5 lol
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hit173 said:
Oh wait i did lol didnt notice by 6,000 points haaa iphone5 lol
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Lol, what's your clock speed?
I hope the nexus 10 gets a bump to 2.0 ghz by some dev. That just sounds killer.
tcb4 said:
Lol, what's your clock speed?
I hope the nexus 10 gets a bump to 2.0 ghz by some dev. That just sounds killer.
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1.8GHz
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1.8GHz
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Ha ha, we'll I am tempted to pick up an infinity, but I really want the developer support that will come with a nexus device.
tkoreaper said:
Im with you this... I highly doubt the iphone 5 outperforms my S3.
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in all honesty, i would not put it past the iphone 5 to beat the S3.
even if you ignore the benchmarks, which a lot seem to imply that the A6 gives even the 5250 in the nexus 10 a run for it's money in some (rare?) cases. (although the case of optimization argument may be made),
note that the PowerVR graphics chip in the iphone 5 is absolutely fantastic, as it seems apple are focusing more on bumping up graphics than CPU in the new A6.
(you should also bare in mind that it seems the A6 is A-15 based, compared to the A9 in the S3 international)
speaking of which. i'm pretty sure the dual core S4 in the S3 you have would be slower in most cases than the i9300 anyways,
so this idea that your s3 could beat the iphone 5 in raw power is a bit hopeful,
and definitely not in terms of games, loading apps ect, purely because of the whole iOS has less devices, ect ect.
Fissurez said:
in all honesty, i would not put it past the iphone 5 to beat the S3.
even if you ignore the benchmarks, which a lot seem to imply that the A6 gives even the 5250 in the nexus 10 a run for it's money in some (rare?) cases. (although the case of optimization argument may be made),
note that the PowerVR graphics chip in the iphone 5 is absolutely fantastic, as it seems apple are focusing more on bumping up graphics than CPU in the new A6.
(you should also bare in mind that it seems the A6 is A-15 based, compared to the A9 in the S3 international)
speaking of which. i'm pretty sure the dual core S4 in the S3 you have would be slower in most cases than the i9300 anyways,
so this idea that your s3 could beat the iphone 5 in raw power is a bit hopeful,
and definitely not in terms of games, loading apps ect, purely because of the whole iOS has less devices, ect ect.
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you may be right there, but I think the nexus 4's gpu is better than the one in the iphone 5. I mean look at glbenchmark, the nexus 4 has a higher fps running at a higher a resolution(egypt hd onscreen). Also the cpu is a quad core krait so I highly doubt the iphone can compete there. The only reason I bring this up is because you were claiming that the iphone 5 has a fanatastic gpu, when in reality it's very good, but I'm not sure it's the best.. You could argue that the iphone 5 scores higher in the fill rate and the triangle throughput, but I feel like these ones may be easier to rig as they are the ones that don't actually render a game.
Hi guys!
I have never owned a tablet and i have decided to pull the trigger and get one, however, im not entirely sure which one to get. I have narrowed it down to 3 tablets. The Nexus 10, Nexus 7(because i travel a lot im considering the 7" screen) or the ASUS Transformer Infinity. I know they are all similar but which performs the best and worth the money? Thanks a bunch for the help guys!
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Nexus 7(because i travel a lot im considering the 7" screen)
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^ Yah.
Since you travel a lot.. The N 7..
How is the performance of the N7 compared to the N10 or Transformer Infinity?
mygti02 said:
How is the performance of the N7 compared to the N10 or Transformer Infinity?
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almost same powerful
premsrj said:
Since you travel a lot.. The N 7..
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If size didnt matter though, which one would you take?
I guess im also confused about the nexus 10 and its CPU....its only a dual core vs the transformers and nexus 7 quad core but yet all the benchmarks i see say that it is much faster. how does that work out?
QUAD vs DUAL
mygti02 said:
I guess im also confused about the nexus 10 and its CPU....its only a dual core vs the transformers and nexus 7 quad core but yet all the benchmarks i see say that it is much faster. how does that work out?
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good question. basically, more CPU cores doesnt always equate to better performance.
It really comes down to the design of the chipset being used. for example, the N10 is using a Exynos 5 (dual core), which is built using ARMs brand spanking new A15 architecture...however, the N7/Transformer/etc are all using a Tegra 3 (quad core), which is built using ARMs older A9 architecture. So that pretty much answers any questions about performance, mulit
The Exynoes chip also includes ARM's new Mali-T604 GPU, designed to power that record-breaking display
Throw in the fact that the the N10 was the only device in your lineup that has 2Gb of RAM...i think you know what to do!! :good:
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I guess im also confused about the nexus 10 and its CPU....its only a dual core vs the transformers and nexus 7 quad core but yet all the benchmarks i see say that it is much faster. how does that work out?
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Because it's the next generation dual core, cortex-A15 architecture vs cortex-A9. Basically it's not about the number of cores it's about the architecture.
I'm not an expert on this so someone else will probably give a better explanation.
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wshelton24 said:
good question. basically, more CPU cores doesnt always equate to better performance.
It really comes down to the design of the chipset being used. for example, the N10 is using a Exynos 5 (dual core), which is built using ARMs brand spanking new A15 architecture...however, the N7/Transformer/etc are all using a Tegra 3 (quad core), which is built using ARMs older A9 architecture. So that pretty much answers any questions about performance, mulit
The Exynoes chip also includes ARM's new Mali-T604 GPU, designed to power that record-breaking display
Throw in the fact that the the N10 was the only device in your lineup that has 2Gb of RAM...i think you know what to do!! :good:
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Ah beat me to it
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Thanks for the explanation guys. That helped clear things up. I might go with the nexus 10 and just deal with the size. Only thing that sux is that it's on back order for a while.... Boooooo :'(
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the nexus 10 looks awesome. But I think it would rather go cheaper and buy the nexus 7. I bet it has better battery life and the 10" is almost as big as a laptop screen and might not be good for travel. I dunno, just my two cents.
For those of you that haven't heard, a new Antutu benchmark has shown that the S810 scored higher than the new Exynos processor. If Sony doesn't release a sequel to the Z Ultra this year, I may have to figure out a way to get that sweet new Qualcomm 6.2" 490ppi developer phone somehow.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Pre...m-made-the-faster-SoC---with-caveats_id65973
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For those of you that haven't heard, a new Antutu benchmark has shown that the S810 scored higher than the new Exynos processor. If Sony doesn't release a sequel to the Z Ultra this year, I may have to figure out a way to get that sweet new Qualcomm 6.2" 490ppi developer phone somehow.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Pre...m-made-the-faster-SoC---with-caveats_id65973
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You might as well just buy the tablet as the phone doesn't have any cellular modem/radio.
https://developer.qualcomm.com/mobi...opment-platform-mdp/mdp-810-tablet-smartphone
Well that's a buzzkill ?
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megadp said:
Well that's a buzzkill ?
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I know it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57070183&postcount=10
Don't you think google should move up the release of the nexus phones? What's the point of releasing them around october? It puts the phone in a weird position, millions have already bought the new iphone refresh, it has not so top of the line specs anymore, since a couple of months later we the galaxy , LG and htc phones released , not to mention the new qualcomm chips.
August should be a good time, the iphone is not out still and most of the android manufacurters have already released their flagships, what do you think?
Agreed
Timing is everything
Also quit giving us hardware that's "meh" example, 3 gig ram, when most flag ship devices are running 4 gig
Then for 2016, the higher end model is going smaller, MEH, wrong moves imho
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badrsj said:
Agreed
Timing is everything
Also quit giving us hardware that's "meh" example, 3 gig ram, when most flag ship devices are running 4 gig
Then for 2016, the higher end model is going smaller, MEH, wrong moves imho
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the 4 gig of ram is only useful if you are keeping 60 apps running on the background..who keeps that many apps running anyways..the 3gig should be plenty..the note 7 will have 6gig and thats bc all the bloatwares running on touchwiz
Nexus was never about having best specs available. Its kinda obvious that this is your first nexus device, because all the ones in the past were the same. And releasing it at the end of the year makes it possible to sell cheaper.
Nexuses also cost significantly less than those flagship phones with 4gb of RAM
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Nexus was never about having best specs available. Its kinda obvious that this is your first nexus device, because all the ones in the past were the same. And releasing it at the end of the year makes it possible to sell cheaper.
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Yeah, the Nexus program was meant to showcase the new version of Android.
So the timing is all about when the new release of Android is available, which has traditionally been Q4. This is bad for phone releases since it means they are in between SoC availability time frames but the Nexus program was never meant to move large number of phones. Perhaps with the new "Phones by Google" program, they'll introduce a new line of devices different from the Nexus line. That way they can slot in releases sometime in Q2 like all of the other manufacturers.
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Nexuses also cost significantly less than those flagship phones with 4gb of RAM
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Not in the UK they don't.
Batfink33 said:
Not in the UK they don't.
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It did when it was released
feis said:
It did when it was released
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The original Nexus? Yeah,the 6P was pretty much a flagship price.
Batfink33 said:
The original Nexus? Yeah,the 6P was pretty much a flagship price.
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On amazon it was like 400-450, so no, not really.
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On amazon it was like 400-450, so no, not really.
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I paid £499 for my 64gb 6P from the Play Store,the 128 was £579!
Guys I'm ignoring negative responses we're all enthusiasts and there is no end to points of view and evidence based arguments
I've moved on
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Nexus was never about having best specs available. Its kinda obvious that this is your first nexus device, because all the ones in the past were the same. And releasing it at the end of the year makes it possible to sell cheaper.
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Sorry to dissapoint you but I've had almost all nexus phones : galaxy nexus , nexus 4,5,6 and now 6p
The only cheap nexus outside the US have been the 4 and the 5
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Nexuses also cost significantly less than those flagship phones with 4gb of RAM
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Only in the US, here in Europe the official price for the nexus 6P is 650 euros, the exact amount I paid for the nexus 6
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Yeah, the Nexus program was meant to showcase the new version of Android.
So the timing is all about when the new release of Android is available, which has traditionally been Q4. This is bad for phone releases since it means they are in between SoC availability time frames but the Nexus program was never meant to move large number of phones. Perhaps with the new "Phones by Google" program, they'll introduce a new line of devices different from the Nexus line. That way they can slot in releases sometime in Q2 like all of the other manufacturers.
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You're right nexus phone are supossed to showcase the new version of android, so maybe google should move up the release of androids updates too ;P haha I got a feeling that will be the case this year
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I paid £499 for my 64gb 6P from the Play Store,the 128 was £579!
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So 32gb one was 450 as i said And how much does new galaxy or htc or even iphone cost when they come out? Answer is more lol
Guys there's devices such as One plus and Mi which are delivering excellent money for value vs sub flagship class devices at ratios better than Nexi
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badrsj said:
Guys there's devices such as One plus and Mi which are delivering excellent money for value vs sub flagship class devices at ratios better than Nexi
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Then keep using your xiaomi and oneplus devices and be happy this thread however is not about them, and its not really about money. And btw i had oneplus one, horrible company, with horrible customer service, or no customer service at all and even more horrible os full of bugs. Never again lol. Cant say much about xiaomi since never had one, but its mainly for asian markets anyways so i dont really care
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Guys there's devices such as One plus and Mi which are delivering excellent money for value vs sub flagship class devices at ratios better than Nexi
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I would have gotten a oneplus 3 if it'd had a better screen , Im spoiled by the Nexus 6p screen , yes it is dim but accurate and I love 2k
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badrsj said:
Guys I'm ignoring negative responses we're all enthusiasts and there is no end to points of view and evidence based arguments
I've moved on
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Guys there's devices such as One plus and Mi which are delivering excellent money for value vs sub flagship class devices at ratios better than Nexi
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Offended by a simple Nexus phone and comments. You must be a joke, right ?
Back on topic. The latest and greatest doesn't matter to me. I just need something that can follow my lead. They can release it whenever they want and I would still buy it.
I am not early buyer. (4-5 month after release.)