Hi guys!
I have never owned a tablet and i have decided to pull the trigger and get one, however, im not entirely sure which one to get. I have narrowed it down to 3 tablets. The Nexus 10, Nexus 7(because i travel a lot im considering the 7" screen) or the ASUS Transformer Infinity. I know they are all similar but which performs the best and worth the money? Thanks a bunch for the help guys!
mygti02 said:
Nexus 7(because i travel a lot im considering the 7" screen)
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^ Yah.
Since you travel a lot.. The N 7..
How is the performance of the N7 compared to the N10 or Transformer Infinity?
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How is the performance of the N7 compared to the N10 or Transformer Infinity?
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almost same powerful
premsrj said:
Since you travel a lot.. The N 7..
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If size didnt matter though, which one would you take?
I guess im also confused about the nexus 10 and its CPU....its only a dual core vs the transformers and nexus 7 quad core but yet all the benchmarks i see say that it is much faster. how does that work out?
QUAD vs DUAL
mygti02 said:
I guess im also confused about the nexus 10 and its CPU....its only a dual core vs the transformers and nexus 7 quad core but yet all the benchmarks i see say that it is much faster. how does that work out?
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good question. basically, more CPU cores doesnt always equate to better performance.
It really comes down to the design of the chipset being used. for example, the N10 is using a Exynos 5 (dual core), which is built using ARMs brand spanking new A15 architecture...however, the N7/Transformer/etc are all using a Tegra 3 (quad core), which is built using ARMs older A9 architecture. So that pretty much answers any questions about performance, mulit
The Exynoes chip also includes ARM's new Mali-T604 GPU, designed to power that record-breaking display
Throw in the fact that the the N10 was the only device in your lineup that has 2Gb of RAM...i think you know what to do!! :good:
mygti02 said:
I guess im also confused about the nexus 10 and its CPU....its only a dual core vs the transformers and nexus 7 quad core but yet all the benchmarks i see say that it is much faster. how does that work out?
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Because it's the next generation dual core, cortex-A15 architecture vs cortex-A9. Basically it's not about the number of cores it's about the architecture.
I'm not an expert on this so someone else will probably give a better explanation.
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wshelton24 said:
good question. basically, more CPU cores doesnt always equate to better performance.
It really comes down to the design of the chipset being used. for example, the N10 is using a Exynos 5 (dual core), which is built using ARMs brand spanking new A15 architecture...however, the N7/Transformer/etc are all using a Tegra 3 (quad core), which is built using ARMs older A9 architecture. So that pretty much answers any questions about performance, mulit
The Exynoes chip also includes ARM's new Mali-T604 GPU, designed to power that record-breaking display
Throw in the fact that the the N10 was the only device in your lineup that has 2Gb of RAM...i think you know what to do!! :good:
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Ah beat me to it
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Thanks for the explanation guys. That helped clear things up. I might go with the nexus 10 and just deal with the size. Only thing that sux is that it's on back order for a while.... Boooooo :'(
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the nexus 10 looks awesome. But I think it would rather go cheaper and buy the nexus 7. I bet it has better battery life and the 10" is almost as big as a laptop screen and might not be good for travel. I dunno, just my two cents.
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I know I'm in the gs2 forum but if anyone here has owned a nexus which do u think is better? It looks like our phone destroys the nexus but I wanted to see what others thought. Be gentle lol.
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I know I'm in the gs2 forum but if anyone here has owned a nexus which do u think is better? It looks like our phone destroys the nexus but I wanted to see what others thought. Be gentle lol.
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theres a million post just like this both phones are awesome if you wanna go for spec for spec i would say i777 is better only by a tiny bit not much better but if you wanna go software to software the Nexus is going to be better and also have more support for roms and development
Adam Outler in another thread mentioned Nexus S is actually a quad core, two for remedial tasks and two for hardcore processing like games. Sounds like the winner to me.
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AntwanL said:
Adam Outler in another thread mentioned Nexus S is actually a quad core, two for remedial tasks and two for hardcore processing like games. Sounds like the winner to me.
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The Gnex is a dual-core for its CPU. The "quad core" mess is if you include the DSPs, which only those a**holes hawking chinese tablets claim. Anyone repectable will call it a dual-core.
Heck, by that math my Prime is an Octo-core.
Simply put, the Gnex is about the same CPU-wise as the SGS2, but the SGS2's GPU dominates the Gnex. In trade, the Gnex has a technically better screen, but I wouldn't trade because I HATE Pentile screens. Also the Gnex lacks a SD card slot.
SGS II: Better CPU, GPU, camera
Galaxy Nexus: Better software, better screen, updates straight from google
So who is going to jump on this or jump to the Nexus LTE?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-codenamed-jet-and-possibly-arriving-in-june/
Jet! If the majority of my fave devs go that way...
fpineda101 said:
Jet! If the majority of my fave devs go that way...
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That thing is going to be a beast.....I wonder if they are going to put the 3d feature on it?
If the release date holds true I'm going to need someone to get me this for my B-Day.
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Dual core ? No thanks .
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What would you possibly want with a quad core? Benchmark swag?
So long as the technology in dual core has taken a step forward this device will be just fine.
And to stay on topic,I'll be getting both.
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Dual core ? No thanks .
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Krait runs circles around quad core tegra 3, only problem is the gpu is an overclocked adreno 220, but it will be a damn fine phone, and as long as sprint has the buy your upgrade back, I will be getting this phone
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Ugh...
I've been COMPLETELY sold on the Sprint GN, but I have a June 1st upgrade, and if this release date is concrete for the One X/Jet/EVO LTE, I might have a decision on my hands
So if the cpu chip isnt compatible with LTE here and thats why Europe is getting I wonder if it will be compatible next year? Hhmmm....either way I'm excited about the display!
Really? A Dual core?
And no, It's not about benchmark swag. Its about it actually being a worthy upgrade. Why am I going to buy a phone thats barely an upgrade? A slightly faster cpu, a slightly faster gpu, and the same amount of RAM? No thanks.
My next phone will have a 1.5ghz quad core, a way faster gpu, and 2gb of ram or its not worth dropping a dime on to me.
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Really? A Dual core?
And no, It's not about benchmark swag. Its about it actually being a worthy upgrade. Why am I going to buy a phone thats barely an upgrade? A slightly faster cpu, a slightly faster gpu, and the same amount of RAM? No thanks.
My next phone will have a 1.5ghz quad core, a way faster gpu, and 2gb of ram or its not worth dropping a dime on to me.
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And the second someone actually shows me what you can do with a quad core phone that you cant do with a dual core phone then ill be inclined to share your thoughts on quad core..What are the real life comparisons?What is the benefit other than saying "I have a quad core phone"
Its just a phone for god sakes,i just dont understand the fascination with going crazy over quad core in a phone.
Right now i have a gs2. I dont see me giving up this phone anytime soon. I have 2 eligible upgrades ive been savin. But normally if you sell your phone on craigslist then buy another on craigs list you pay less then what the upgrade would cost a new customer. Sold evo for 220...paid 350 for brand new white gs2. Im hopin sprint gets an updated galaxy note
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still no removable battery or storage so I'll probably still pass.
Paid retail on the EVO 3D to hold me for another year on my contract so won't be buying a new phone till next year with my upgrade and by then there will be something better. But seems like a worthy upgrade.
Although I am a 3D nut in a sense so I would miss that a lot (but that's just me)
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Really? A Dual core?
And no, It's not about benchmark swag. Its about it actually being a worthy upgrade. Why am I going to buy a phone thats barely an upgrade? A slightly faster cpu, a slightly faster gpu, and the same amount of RAM? No thanks.
My next phone will have a 1.5ghz quad core, a way faster gpu, and 2gb of ram or its not worth dropping a dime on to me.
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FYI Krait (MSM8960) dual core beats tegra 3 in almost 90% benchmarks...
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still no removable battery or storage so I'll probably still pass.
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Lol so nowhere in the article does it mention battery it storage. So your assumption has zero merit.
Btw i have 2 upgrades and this will be one. No pun intended
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Ehh..maybe. I have come to hate the 3d portion of this phone..it has NO easily accessible content and is only cool for a second before it hurts your eyes. Take that with lack of development (thank god for miui) and this phone is a bust lol
That said, I may still wait to upgrade until I see how much support my next phone gets. The new version of sense is the most hideous I've ever seen an HTC phone look...definitely don't wanna be stuck with that.
I'm Batman..
swaze said:
Lol so nowhere in the article does it mention battery it storage. So your assumption has zero merit.
Btw i have 2 upgrades and this will be one. No pun intended
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The Jet is said to be identical to the One X in every way, except it's packing CDMA1X/EV-DO/LTE radios instead of the GSM/LTE radios of its AT&T counterpart
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While there is no mention of storage or battery the article states LTE as being the only difference. Had battery and/or storage been changed it would be a pretty big deal and mentioned. I hope I'm wrong but don't hold your breath that HTC decided to make those changes only for Sprint when LTE is the single necessary alteration for the CDMA LTE roll out.
xblackvalorx said:
Really? A Dual core?
And no, It's not about benchmark swag. Its about it actually being a worthy upgrade. Why am I going to buy a phone thats barely an upgrade? A slightly faster cpu, a slightly faster gpu, and the same amount of RAM? No thanks.
My next phone will have a 1.5ghz quad core, a way faster gpu, and 2gb of ram or its not worth dropping a dime on to me.
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Dual core ? No thanks .
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You guys need to take some time and do some research on what your talking about...
neither of you mentioned the fact that the screen is HUGELY improved, dedicated ImageChip, and besides the whole point both of you are not grasping the fact of how much better the S4 chip's are than the S3's...If this doesn't satisfy an upgrade b/c of the SoC then you'll be left waiting till '13 when Qualcomm pushes their 28nm quads...
fact is the SoC mentioned in this device is a huge upgrade to the current one in the EVO3D...
If this was a Tegra3 would you consider it an upgrade??? If you say yes then you are greatly miss-leaded by the facts of the SoC's themselves b/c there is sooo much more than just the # of cores...28nm vs 40nm, integrated modems vs not, and a bunch more...
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Lol so nowhere in the article does it mention battery it storage. So your assumption has zero merit.
Btw i have 2 upgrades and this will be one. No pun intended
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really?
...The Jet is said to be identical to the One X in every way,...
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...Solid polycarbonate body...
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pretty much means built in battery and no removable storage there...
though also the wrinkle is that things are always subject to change...
I'm sold.
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As you can see here the nexus 4 scores much lower than the galaxy s3 running the dual core s4. These benchmarks shouldn't even be taken with a grain of salt if the dual core s4 out performs the quad core by such a large margin. Now I know this involves the 4, but I wonder if the same could be applied to the nexus 10. For example the nexus 10's sunspider benchmark is about half that of the chromebook and they have the same cpu at the same clock speed.
Look here how much higher the optimus g scores than the nexus 4.
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My S3 is a quad not a dual. PS, note the resolutions?
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My S3 is a quad not a dual. PS, note the resolutions?
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I know the international version is quad core, but it doesn't use the s4 quad. The tmobile galaxy s3 uses snapdragon s4 dual core. The resolutions are the same I believe due to the three buttons for home and such on the display. Also the resolution wouldn't affect sunspider or other cpu benchmarks.
On the nexus 4 the cpu under clocks itself because it gets too hot.
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On the nexus 4 the cpu under clocks itself because it gets too hot.
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I didn't read anything where they mentioned the cpu underclocking itself. How can this be true if the optimus g is almost it's clone and doesn't have these issues? If I could get some links it would be greatly appreciated.
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I didn't read anything where they mentioned the cpu underclocking itself. How can this be true if the optimus g is almost it's clone and doesn't have these issues? If I could get some links it would be greatly appreciated.
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It is in that very (mini) review you posted from anandtech, I am a huge follower of them, just Ctrl+F the word hot, I bet you will find out where they mentioned that the nexus 4 runs hot.
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It is in that very (mini) review you posted from anandtech, I am a huge follower of them, just Ctrl+F the word hot, I bet you will find out where they mentioned that the nexus 4 runs hot.
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I searched for the word hot in their review and it didn't find any results. Either way does it mention that it underclocks due to the heat?
I have to believe that the performance in only going to get much much better with future updates from Google.. The result clearly show how premature the kernel is for 4.2.. Show in the N10 and the N4
It's quite possible that the benchmarks produce BS results.
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It's quite possible that the benchmarks produce BS results.
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Im with you this... I highly doubt the iphone 5 outperforms my S3.
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Damn my infinity almost topped the iphone 5 in browser mark, here are some quadrant n sunspider. I was thinking of selling this beast 4 the n10 but nvm..
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Oh wait i did lol didnt notice by 6,000 points haaa iphone5 lol
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hit173 said:
Oh wait i did lol didnt notice by 6,000 points haaa iphone5 lol
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Lol, what's your clock speed?
I hope the nexus 10 gets a bump to 2.0 ghz by some dev. That just sounds killer.
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Lol, what's your clock speed?
I hope the nexus 10 gets a bump to 2.0 ghz by some dev. That just sounds killer.
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1.8GHz
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1.8GHz
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Ha ha, we'll I am tempted to pick up an infinity, but I really want the developer support that will come with a nexus device.
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Im with you this... I highly doubt the iphone 5 outperforms my S3.
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in all honesty, i would not put it past the iphone 5 to beat the S3.
even if you ignore the benchmarks, which a lot seem to imply that the A6 gives even the 5250 in the nexus 10 a run for it's money in some (rare?) cases. (although the case of optimization argument may be made),
note that the PowerVR graphics chip in the iphone 5 is absolutely fantastic, as it seems apple are focusing more on bumping up graphics than CPU in the new A6.
(you should also bare in mind that it seems the A6 is A-15 based, compared to the A9 in the S3 international)
speaking of which. i'm pretty sure the dual core S4 in the S3 you have would be slower in most cases than the i9300 anyways,
so this idea that your s3 could beat the iphone 5 in raw power is a bit hopeful,
and definitely not in terms of games, loading apps ect, purely because of the whole iOS has less devices, ect ect.
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in all honesty, i would not put it past the iphone 5 to beat the S3.
even if you ignore the benchmarks, which a lot seem to imply that the A6 gives even the 5250 in the nexus 10 a run for it's money in some (rare?) cases. (although the case of optimization argument may be made),
note that the PowerVR graphics chip in the iphone 5 is absolutely fantastic, as it seems apple are focusing more on bumping up graphics than CPU in the new A6.
(you should also bare in mind that it seems the A6 is A-15 based, compared to the A9 in the S3 international)
speaking of which. i'm pretty sure the dual core S4 in the S3 you have would be slower in most cases than the i9300 anyways,
so this idea that your s3 could beat the iphone 5 in raw power is a bit hopeful,
and definitely not in terms of games, loading apps ect, purely because of the whole iOS has less devices, ect ect.
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you may be right there, but I think the nexus 4's gpu is better than the one in the iphone 5. I mean look at glbenchmark, the nexus 4 has a higher fps running at a higher a resolution(egypt hd onscreen). Also the cpu is a quad core krait so I highly doubt the iphone can compete there. The only reason I bring this up is because you were claiming that the iphone 5 has a fanatastic gpu, when in reality it's very good, but I'm not sure it's the best.. You could argue that the iphone 5 scores higher in the fill rate and the triangle throughput, but I feel like these ones may be easier to rig as they are the ones that don't actually render a game.
... that was only released in Korea? Well.. it seems it has morphed into something else and in that form is going to be released in Europe!
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/01/18/exclusive-samsung-to-announce-5-8-android-smartphone/
Do i care about it? If it has the same specs as the Samsung Galaxy Player 5.8 i don't, because i think Samsung charges too much for their underpowered players. My mind is set on the Huawei Ascend Mate 6.1' Phonblet that will be released soon with a HD screen, 1.5 GHz quad-core processor and an awesome 4000MAh battery. Check the specs: http://www.huaweidevice.com/worldwi...eeId=3745&pinfoId=3520&directoryId=6001&tab=0
Hyawai shoul be nice if it has reason price.But i am not satisfy with hyawai.. I have hyawai tablet for 1.5 year and it still have android 2.2,hyawai does not care about it users.
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... that was only released in Korea? Well.. it seems it has morphed into something else and in that form is going to be released in Europe!
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/01/18/exclusive-samsung-to-announce-5-8-android-smartphone/
Do i care about it? If it has the same specs as the Samsung Galaxy Player 5.8 i don't, because i think Samsung charges too much for their underpowered players. My mind is set on the Huawei Ascend Mate 6.1' Phonblet that will be released soon with a HD screen, 1.5 GHz quad-core processor and an awesome 4000MAh battery. Check the specs: http://www.huaweidevice.com/worldwi...eeId=3745&pinfoId=3520&directoryId=6001&tab=0
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Agree with the price and performance thing you mentioned there. But the 5.8 does have an Enoxys ( <- Wrong spelling I know ) 4 and 1GB of RAM which is significantly better than the 5.0 ect. Although this device costs like £320 for the 32GB model so it's not worth buying. I'm waiting for Nvidia's Project Shield as that just looks awesome.
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Agree with the price and performance thing you mentioned there. But the 5.8 does have an Enoxys ( <- Wrong spelling I know ) 4 and 1GB of RAM which is significantly better than the 5.0 ect. Although this device costs like £320 for the 32GB model so it's not worth buying. I'm waiting for Nvidia's Project Shield as that just looks awesome.
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Agreed. Project Shield is definitely something i want to get. Hopefully the price for it isnt gonna be outrageous like the ASUS Transformer series tablets I hope though that Samsung would release the Galaxy Player 5.8 in the U.S. It would hopefully get people to switch over to android instead of CrApple's iSheep devices
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DZonikg said:
Hyawai shoul be nice if it has reason price.But i am not satisfy with hyawai.. I have hyawai tablet for 1.5 year and it still have android 2.2,hyawai does not care about it users.
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I also have a Huawei tablet and there are official firmwares for it with Android 3 and ICS, so i think their support is very reasonable, which i can't say about my Galaxy Player.
Same specs as the Nexus 10 but with better CPU, microSD, USB 3.0, etc.
Anyone thinking of changing their Nexus 10 to this new tablet?
Sensamic said:
Same specs as the Nexus 10 but with better CPU, microSD, USB 3.0, etc.
Anyone thinking of changing their Nexus 10 to this new tablet?
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All the depends on the nand they use. ASUS uses cheap nands on their tablets which bottleneck the performance with turtle-like i/o speeds. This is from someone that owned an asus transfomer and still owns a nexus 7...
I'd be tempted. Depends how good the GPU is because the nexus 10's is far too weak for this resolution. Micro SD is nice also. Hopefully screen is super bright like the original
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3473 said:
I'd be tempted. Depends how good the GPU is because the nexus 10's is far too weak for this resolution. Micro SD is nice also. Hopefully screen is super bright like the original
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How weak is weak?
Weak ------------------------------earth ---------------------- moon -------------------------------- far too weak
That weak
3473 -> look at Tablet z ... Its a nice example of how the things must be
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Weak or no weak... This thread shouldn't be posted here. It has nothing to do with the Nexus 10...
I concur, though I'll admit I'm now second guessing my N10... But I'll keep it. Better development.
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Lags every other animation weak
I'd consider it. I love me nexus 10 but it never turned out to be the halo product that people said it would be. Or, maybe that I wanted it to be.
I really don't see the point in trading my nexus 10 for anything unless I can get better multitasking and multi-window support. Unless something really exciting is released Ill stick to my nexus 10. Maybe try Ubuntu on it.
Assuming here that the tab is using a tegra 4. The GPU may not end up being more powerful. Tegra usually makes one of the weaker gpu's on the market for mobile. The new tegra 4 GPU won't even be opengl 3.0 or opencl 1.1 compliant so you'll see a lot of improvements when android natively supports that
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Weak or no weak... This thread shouldn't be posted here. It has nothing to do with the Nexus 10...
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Why? Just because you say so?
This thread is located where it should be, because I'm asking if it's worth the change from my Nexus 10 to this new tablet. There's no Transformer Pad Infinity 2 forum yet.
So I guess to you every thread comparing the Nexus 10 to another tablet (like the thread comparing it to the Sony tablet Z) shouldn't be posted here right?
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There is already a thread to make your comments HERE
Thank you and thread closed.