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Hey everyone!
Currently a user of an RR rooted oneplus 3. Love the phone but I keep hearing good things about Xiaomi.
I must admit I'm curious, especially with the Mi Mix 2 coming out. How are Xiaomi phones on US cell networks? I would mainly be using AT & T. I have no problem putting custom roms etc on my phones so that's not an issue.
I just wouldnt want to be stuck with a phone that had bad 4G/LTE support.
Pros and cons of going with a Xiaomi phone vs say the one plus 5, or a true US supported phone like the LG V30 or upcoming pixel XL2 or even the asus zenphone 4 pro?
Curious to see what everyone has to say .
slyyke said:
Hey everyone!
Currently a user of an RR rooted oneplus 3. Love the phone but I keep hearing good things about Xiaomi.
I must admit I'm curious, especially with the Mi Mix 2 coming out. How are Xiaomi phones on US cell networks? I would mainly be using AT & T. I have no problem putting custom roms etc on my phones so that's not an issue.
I just wouldnt want to be stuck with a phone that had bad 4G/LTE support.
Pros and cons of going with a Xiaomi phone vs say the one plus 5, or a true US supported phone like the LG V30 or upcoming pixel XL2 or even the asus zenphone 4 pro?
Curious to see what everyone has to say .
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I'm using Redmi note 4 global Version in USA on T-Mobile. You just need to do a little research on what frequency at&t uses. Or what bands they use. For me I'm only getting 1 LTE band supported which is band 4. I get lte everywhere and it's fast. This is what at&t supports 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz) currently. You can use this http://www.china-prices.com/phone/bands/7131/xiaomi-redmi-note-4-64gb to check compatibility with Chinese phones it's pretty accurate. So I just looked it up the global Version of Redmi note 4 you would get 2 LTE bands. Better than what I get. You can research other xiaomi phones as well.
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allrockedout said:
I'm using Redmi note 4 global Version in USA on T-Mobile. You just need to do a little research on what frequency at&t uses. Or what bands they use. For me I'm only getting 1 LTE band supported which is band 4. I get lte everywhere and it's fast. This is what at&t supports 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz) currently. You can use this http://www.china-prices.com/phone/bands/7131/xiaomi-redmi-note-4-64gb to check compatibility with Chinese phones it's pretty accurate. So I just looked it up the global Version of Redmi note 4 you would get 2 LTE bands. Better than what I get. You can research other xiaomi phones as well.
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Also switch service to mint sim for $25 a month with unlimited talk text and 10gb of data. Redmi note 4 global Version 3gb around $150 and the 4gb version around $200.
There are some xiaomi phones that support more bands but they do cost more. A unlocked phone in the USA you should be getting at least 3 LTE frequencies support. Like on T-Mobile there are 3 main bands. 2 4 and 12. 12 is for when your inside and it penetrates through buildings. At&t might have the same type of thing with 850mhz. Lower the frequency the farther it can travel.
Feel free to direct message me if you have more questions I've basically researched all available xiaomi phones. I can help you with compatibility
You don't have to worry about bands support, if it doesn't support bands on USA, You can unlock all bands on Mido, 1-41 bands can be unlocked
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You don't have to worry about bands support, if it doesn't support bands on USA, You can unlock all bands on Mido, 1-41 bands can be unlocked
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So basically as long as the soc's modem supports it then there are ways to unlock it. I am unfamiliar with Mido. What is that? I am going to be targeting a Snapdragon 835 phone here in the next month or two. Hopefully we will see on the 11th the mi mix 2 getting that Soc.
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So basically as long as the soc's modem supports it then there are ways to unlock it. I am unfamiliar with Mido. What is that? I am going to be targeting a Snapdragon 835 phone here in the next month or two. Hopefully we will see on the 11th the mi mix 2 getting that Soc.
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I'm not sure about the first line, but here on RN4 it can be unlocked with other version of RN4 who had All bands unlocked
Mido is code name for Redmi Note 4, every devices on Xiaomi have their own code name
I think yes it will be getting 835
I think it will be support for Mi Mix 2 on USA, i know someone who had mi6 basically had same soc, and he can used it in USA
Unlocking bands is not easy at all.. it's possible in theory, but it's extremely complicated and dangerous you can completely brick your phone.
Dont even consider this, i dont know what this guy above is talking about. Maybe he will present us unlocked all bands if this is so easy?
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Unlocking bands is not easy at all.. it's possible in theory, but it's extremely complicated and dangerous you can completely brick your phone.
Dont even consider this, i dont know what this guy above is talking about. Maybe he will present us unlocked all bands if this is so easy?
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It's easy and it will not brick your phone, only signal loss and you can restore your backup if anything happened (signal loss)
I have the redmi note 4x international with snapdragon soc on cricket (att prepay service). I cant say about the mi max 2 but my device works great with att network. The phone came with the global rom installed and all I had to do was put a sim in it. Network was found, data worked, sms and mms both worked. Have had no issues with the phone on cricket/att.
Just like to follow up with my post. Did some digging and apparently mi mix 2 will be fully capable in the US as the mi mix 2 will ship with a global version that has Google play support. Very cool stuff if this article is to be believed. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...ix-2-was-built-with-the-u-s-audience-in-mind/
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Just like to follow up with my post. Did some digging and apparently mi mix 2 will be fully capable in the US as the mi mix 2 will ship with a global version that has Google play support. Very cool stuff if this article is to be believed. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...ix-2-was-built-with-the-u-s-audience-in-mind/
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Yes it was announced that Mi Mix 2 will support global LTE bands
So basically it should work everywhere.
https://www1-lw.xda-cdn.com/files/2017/09/21430597_1498964703472451_3339054990448497680_n.jpg
allrockedout said:
I'm using Redmi note 4 global Version in USA on T-Mobile. You just need to do a little research on what frequency at&t uses. Or what bands they use. For me I'm only getting 1 LTE band supported which is band 4. I get lte everywhere and it's fast. This is what at&t supports 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz) currently. You can use this http://www.china-prices.com/phone/bands/7131/xiaomi-redmi-note-4-64gb to check compatibility with Chinese phones it's pretty accurate. So I just looked it up the global Version of Redmi note 4 you would get 2 LTE bands. Better than what I get. You can research other xiaomi phones as well.
Hello even I got Redmi note 4 64gb iam using with lycamobile but for some reason iam stuck with 2g , can u plz help how ur getting 4g on T-Mobile . I tried playing around with apn but its the same plzz I will really appreciate if u can put me to right settings thanks.
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allrockedout said:
I'm using Redmi note 4 global Version in USA on T-Mobile. You just need to do a little research on what frequency at&t uses. Or what bands they use. For me I'm only getting 1 LTE band supported which is band 4. I get lte everywhere and it's fast. This is what at&t supports 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz) currently. You can use this http://www.china-prices.com/phone/bands/7131/xiaomi-redmi-note-4-64gb to check compatibility with Chinese phones it's pretty accurate. So I just looked it up the global Version of Redmi note 4 you would get 2 LTE bands. Better than what I get. You can research other xiaomi phones as well.
Hello even I got Redmi note 4 64gb iam using with lycamobile but for some reason iam stuck with 2g , can u plz help how ur getting 4g on T-Mobile . I tried playing around with apn but its the same plzz I will really appreciate if u can put me to right settings thanks.
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Make sure your sim is in Sim slot 1 which is the one that goes farthest inside phone that's the only one that works for LTE.
Looks like your carrier runs off the t mobile network. You have lte band 2 4 and 12. There are also multiple versions of redmi note 4. If you have redmi note 4 global version which runs the snapdragon processor you should be ok and getting LTE on band 4.
Also depending on what area you are in and the cell towers in your area you could be to far from LTE cell towers. Good luck
Go into sim apn settings there should be one already setup called fast t mobile. Because I'm pretty sure your on t mobile network you can select that and get LTE.
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allrockedout said:
sunny777 said:
Make sure your sim is in Sim slot 1 which is the one that goes farthest inside phone that's the only one that works for LTE.
Looks like your carrier runs off the t mobile network. You have lte band 2 4 and 12. There are also multiple versions of redmi note 4. If you have redmi note 4 global version which runs the snapdragon processor you should be ok and getting LTE on band 4.
Also depending on what area you are in and the cell towers in your area you could be to far from LTE cell towers. Good luck
Go into sim apn settings there should be one already setup called fast t mobile. Because I'm pretty sure your on t mobile network you can select that and get LTE.
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Thanku so much for the detail reply , yes sim slot is 1 and yes it runs on tmobile towers . my note 4 version looks global 625snapdragon, 64gb 4gb ram running on global miui 9 .I even tried the tmobile fast apn but I cannot get 4g , is there any way to change the bands n check?? what else shld I check. I tried different tower locations but the same E everywhere plz help thanks.
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sunny777 said:
allrockedout said:
Thanku so much for the detail reply , yes sim slot is 1 and yes it runs on tmobile towers . my note 4 version looks global 625snapdragon, 64gb 4gb ram running on global miui 9 .I even tried the tmobile fast apn but I cannot get 4g , is there any way to change the bands n check?? what else shld I check. I tried different tower locations but the same E everywhere plz help thanks.
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A good app from the play store is called LTE discovery it will tell you what band or frequency you are on I posted a couple screen shots on a different phone though running MIUI 8 but should be about the same. Also what plan are you on maybe you have used all your data? Also check with your carrier you might have to supply the IMEI number for them to activate it. Are you able to make calls?
Are you able to use the Sim in a different phone and LTE is fine?
Are you sure your not on redmi note 4x?
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sunny777 said:
A good app from the play store is called LTE discovery it will tell you what band or frequency you are on I posted a couple screen shots on a different phone though running MIUI 8 but should be about the same. Also what plan are you on maybe you have used all your data? Also check with your carrier you might have to supply the IMEI number for them to activate it. Are you able to make calls?
Are you able to use the Sim in a different phone and LTE is fine?
Are you sure your not on redmi note 4x?
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so I installed the app under signal tap lte bars negative only edge bars shows full , I inserted the same sim to Samsung s7 edge and I get lte right away , and yes I did the same apn setting as shown in screen shot I don't know wht else shld I try....
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allrockedout said:
so I installed the app under signal tap lte bars negative only edge bars shows full , I inserted the same sim to Samsung s7 edge and I get lte right away , and yes I did the same apn setting as shown in screen shot I don't know wht else shld I try....
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I sent a you a private message so you can contact me
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cidxtc said:
I have the redmi note 4x international with snapdragon soc on cricket (att prepay service). I cant say about the mi max 2 but my device works great with att network. The phone came with the global rom installed and all I had to do was put a sim in it. Network was found, data worked, sms and mms both worked. Have had no issues with the phone on cricket/att.
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Does LTE actually continue to work for you after you make a voice call or when it otherwise switches to something other than LTE?
Because I'm on cricket as well and mine never goes back to LTE once it switches to H+. I've gotta go into preferred network and switch to to Prefer 3G and back to Prefer LTE to make it work again.
I've tried it with an AT&T prepaid sim as well. I've also done a factory reset, tried the nano sim in slot 2 and also in a micro sim adapter in slot 1. All with the same result. I've got good LTE signal on band 4 all over the place which works perfectly when it's connected. But if I make a phone call or walk into the center of home depot where the signal drops for even a second, it will go to H+ and literally never switch back.
dennygreen said:
Does LTE actually continue to work for you after you make a voice call or when it otherwise switches to something other than LTE?
Because I'm on cricket as well and mine never goes back to LTE once it switches to H+. I've gotta go into preferred network and switch to to Prefer 3G and back to Prefer LTE to make it work again.
I've tried it with an AT&T prepaid sim as well. I've also done a factory reset, tried the nano sim in slot 2 and also in a micro sim adapter in slot 1. All with the same result. I've got good LTE signal on band 4 all over the place which works perfectly when it's connected. But if I make a phone call or walk into the center of home depot where the signal drops for even a second, it will go to H+ and literally never switch back.
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I have never had a problem with it switching back to lte. I a running miui 9.
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I have never had a problem with it switching back to lte. I a running miui 9.
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oh OK. Im on 8.5.4.0. I should probably try 9, or Lineage soon.
I did actually witness this thing switch from H+ to LTE today, I couldn't believe my eyes. It was out in the middle of nowhere, and the LTE signal showed 1 bar, so apparently the H+ must have been even worse.
Guys H+ is fast too, I think it's like up to like 168mbps. Personally I have no problems with LTE but I prefer to use H+ because it's enough of speed for everything you could think of, obviously the signal is better then 4g and it's easier on battery.
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Actually it seems like H+ can be even faster then LTE.
https://support.freedompop.com/app/featured/answer/id/3238
Guys Xiaomi will it unlock band 1 (2100mz) to work with Vodafone India?....it's terribly not fair to use 3g in 4g device.
Or anybody got luckily work?
Hello everyone. I'm fairly new here.
I had a moto e4 plus but I'm ditching it as I've bought a redmi 5 plus 4 /64 (I believe) from eglobal.
The terrible thing is that I don't know which carrier it works on. I didn't do much research. I just read that it was really good for the money so I bought it impulsively.
It's all my fault, I know.
Can anyone be so kind as to tell me what carrier it'll work on? I tried to do it myself but all the different bands and networks and frequencies confused me.
I'm in the USA in Texas, if that helps any.
Thank you in advance.
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All those letters and numbers confuse me.
Would you kindly tell me what carriers I'll be able to use with this device?
T-mobile, boost, virgin, etc...
Thunderdr said:
All those letters and numbers confuse me.
Would you kindly tell me what carriers I'll be able to use with this device?
T-mobile, boost, virgin, etc...
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There is a suggestion why don't you borrow sim card from any of your friend and check either it will work or not.
Or you may go to service center and try different carriers.
Redmi 5 Plus supports almost all kind of popular carriers I am from Pakistan and have friends of almost all countries and they use use redmi 5 plus with carriers available at their country.
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The problem is that everyone I know uses Boost mobile so I have no way of testing it on other carriers. I don't think I can test on Boost because they don't use sim cards.
I think I saw on YouTube that I'll be able to use AT&T, cricket wireless and T-mobile. Can anyone confirm?
Ps. I don't actually have the phone yet. Supposed to arrive Thursday.
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The problem is that everyone I know uses Boost mobile so I have no way of testing it on other carriers. I don't think I can test on Boost because they don't use sim cards.
I think I saw on YouTube that I'll be able to use AT&T, cricket wireless and T-mobile. Can anyone confirm?
Ps. I don't actually have the phone yet. Supposed to arrive Thursday.
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The global version should work on most popular carriers. I can't say for the US but for the PH, Smart and Globe (carrier duopoly) work perfectly fine and support voLTE
Hey guys any help with this would be amazing. I grabbed this for really cheap the other day and thought it would be able to use ATT LTE since others have had success but no matter what it will only connect to H+ even when LTE finder finds the band I wanted. Really frusted as I thought I got the right model. There is only ONE international one right? Any help would be really appreciated. Thanks you guys. Hopefully I didn't mess up and get a wrong version or something though I can return it if I did.
I'm having the same issue, but on T-mobile! I don't know how to fix this.
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I'm having the same issue, but on T-mobile! I don't know how to fix this.
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What I can't understand or just not knowing is the amazon version I have does 1,3,5,8 and up but the listings on Ebay have them 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,12 etc...basically all bands which I can't seem to figure out. Is there a difference? I have the UK model which is the Worldwide model not the chinese one but are there OTHER regional differences that unlock more bands? Is there a way to manually force this if so? I figured return to amazon and then get the ebay version but that is stupid if they are incorrect and they really dont' cover 2,4,5,12 for ATT that is needed.
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What I can't understand or just not knowing is the amazon version I have does 1,3,5,8 and up but the listings on Ebay have them 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,12 etc...basically all bands which I can't seem to figure out. Is there a difference? I have the UK model which is the Worldwide model not the chinese one but are there OTHER regional differences that unlock more bands? Is there a way to manually force this if so? I figured return to amazon and then get the ebay version but that is stupid if they are incorrect and they really dont' cover 2,4,5,12 for ATT that is needed.
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I searched around today and found this. Scroll down to the connectivity part and you see that the phone supports 1 of 5 ATT LTE bands, and 0 of 5 T-Mobile LTE bands. However, I'm not sure if this information is accurate since my phone detects a neighboring band 4 LTE cell tower (which my old phone instantly connected to), but does not connect to it. Also, why is the rest of the forum quiet about this issue? Is it really just me and you that are experiencing it (or that live in the US)? I also am very confused why Huawei removed the USSD code menu option wherein you could force it to LTE. I've heard that changing something in the build.prop can force it, but you need to be rooted for that, and I've gotten bored of rooting phones lol (and the risks involved).
Luckily, for me, this isn't that big of a problem as data still works (albeit slowly), and in the beginning of September I'll be in France for at least a year. So, I made sure that this phone's bands matched up with what the carriers are on in France, so hopefully I should be fine. Otherwise, it's a sleek, awesome phone.
Honor 10 isnt made for US and US bands, even if its the global version. The bands in US are different from those in EU or Asia.
As the guy above confirmed this, the it has just one LTE compatbile band at ATT.
the one on ebay global version from Singapore is not what u think. there's a misprint on its ad. these are the actual bandwidths it supports ;
col~L29
Primary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
Secondary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
I want to tweak the build. prop, too, but root is required but, unfortunately, Huawei pulled that recent maneuver everyone frustrated about.
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the one on ebay global version from Singapore is not what u think. there's a misprint on its ad. these are the actual bandwidths it supports ;
col~L29
Primary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
Secondary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
I want to tweak the build. prop, too, but root is required but, unfortunately, Huawei pulled that recent maneuver everyone frustrated about.
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Yeap its a bit dead end without unlocking the bootloader. I dont know if by building and compiling original firmware from released sources and make the changes there, if it would allow you to install it.
Yes I too can pick up band 4 on LTE finder on my phone but I cannot use it, if I could then I would have fine coverage. If I go 5 miles away the other half of the city has full ATT LTE 5 coverage so I was bummed LOL when I went up there and saw full bars LTE+ LOL. Yeah the ebay guys are just putting false info then. I have my bootloader code to unlock as I have done to my V10 but not sure how that would enable the other band 4 I need. I don't have quite that much experience.
I don't know if there is something comparable to this available to be done (since Honor 10 has a Kirin and not a qualcomm), but I'm just going to leave this here for now.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
I don't know if Honor went the route of having a few more lte bands and just disabling them in software since my phone does detect band 4 lte, but can't connect to it, but what do I know.
I have the same issue on t-mobile network.
From all the research i did it looks like the US bands are software locked. P20 supports all LTE bands (including US) and it runs on the same chipset, Kirin 970. Also as few people said, they are able to see band 4 in LTE discovery (and other apps), I can see it as well, but can't connect.
As for the software to unlock lte bands, there is nothing like that for Kirin right now.
The only option for now is to find the right modem files, edit them and flash to the device. At least that's the only thing that comes to my mind.
I'm digging through source files, which were released by Huawei, whenever i have a chance, but i'm not even sure what I'm looking for.
really sucks because of all the phones I have (a lot LOL) this is by far my favorite one to use, the way the backing was slightly curved and everyting is just perfect except for that pesky LTE issue. I know they are software locked like you said but have no way of getting it unlocked. I hve picked up LTE 4 here as well but cannot use it at all. I can get full 4g LTE when I drive 5 five miles up the road LOL but only 3g+ here at my home which is the issue. Argggg.....i have about a week left before i have to return it or keep it so I'm on the fence. My honor v10 with 970 has all bands, and my P20 lite has all LTE bands too I just don't get it.
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really sucks because of all the phones I have (a lot LOL) this is by far my favorite one to use, the way the backing was slightly curved and everyting is just perfect except for that pesky LTE issue. I know they are software locked like you said but have no way of getting it unlocked. I hve picked up LTE 4 here as well but cannot use it at all. I can get full 4g LTE when I drive 5 five miles up the road LOL but only 3g+ here at my home which is the issue. Argggg.....i have about a week left before i have to return it or keep it so I'm on the fence. My honor v10 with 970 has all bands, and my P20 lite has all LTE bands too I just don't get it.
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This is my favorite too. I guess Huawei really just wants to push the more pricier p20's in the U.S, even though they aren't really in the U.S. market to begin with anymore. With very similar specs to the P20 pro, the honor 10 would easily take away sales from the P20. Can't stop gearbest though, lol. Anyways, the extent of my modification to an android device was decompiling a rom (I think?), editing in specific MCC/MNC values for an AT&T MVNO in a certain file, recompiling it and flashing it to get 4gLTE back, since my phone thought it was roaming. I'm assuming the software-locked band information is a lot harder to find (or fix). I'm keeping my fingers crossed that HajmeR or others manage to find what we're looking for-maybe I'll even give it a go.
The question is whether LTE bands are only locked in software on your device or whether there really is a reason in hardware (missing antennas and such) that prevents you from using your preferred bands. People seem to disagree on this topic. Some claim that hardware reasons will prevent you from changing the set of allowed bands; however,
with respect to the Honor 6X, it seems that altering the oeminfo partition (https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/help/debrand-to-enable-lte-bands-indian-t3663359) can make a difference with respect to allowed LTE bands.
I have a Chinese Honor 10 (COL-AL10) which I rebranded to COL-L29 C432 by adjusting (not completely replacing) oeminfo, more precisely by carefully editing model number etc. Everything works well, but I noticed that the device does not connect to LTE band 20 towers that are in my neighborhood - even though I can connect to them when I put my sim card into a different phone. The Chinese COL-AL10 does not have band 20, so this lock or unavailability of band 20 seems to have survived the rebranding. A real COL-L29 C432 would be able to connect to band 20.
So, to investigate this further, one would have to study the oeminfo partition of a real COL-L29 C432 and investigate where information on the available LTE bands is stored - if this piece of information is hidden in the oeminfo partition. I can share the oeminfo of the COL-AL10 but have to make sure that my IMEI number cannot be extracted from it.
yeah i got my refund already from amazon and looking for a replacement, I don't like phones that are 72 mm or wider they are hard to hold, so my view 10 is tough at 75 mm..........the lg g7 is only 71 mm wide and 6.1 screen which is incredible but VERY pricey and it's LG, we know how they are on updates of ANY kind. I have the P20 lite too, which get's every single band in the USA on GSM, I don't get why the honor 10 was hampered so much because I'm not gonna buy the more expensive P20 i've used one and they are not nearly as nice feeling as the honor 10, the body is totally different not curved at all on back and feels like crap.
So the search is on, lenovo has an 845 with samsung super AMOLED on amazon for 450 with 6 gig RAM and 64 ROM and all the other bells and whistles edcept it's not glass on back which is actually like. I really really wanted the nokia 6.1 plus which is perfect in every way except once again 1,3,5, bands only LOL. So not go again. The Xiaomi A2 lite is interesting, metal back, 4000 ma battery which is insanely big, but then only 2.4 wifi and microusb LOL? 625 processor but only 200 bucks so really a good value and get's every band like the p20 lite.
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The question is whether LTE bands are only locked in software on your device or whether there really is a reason in hardware (missing antennas and such) that prevents you from using your preferred bands. People seem to disagree on this topic. Some claim that hardware reasons will prevent you from changing the set of allowed bands; however,
with respect to the Honor 6X, it seems that altering the oeminfo partition (https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/help/debrand-to-enable-lte-bands-indian-t3663359) can make a difference with respect to allowed LTE bands.
I have a Chinese Honor 10 (COL-AL10) which I rebranded to COL-L29 C432 by adjusting (not completely replacing) oeminfo, more precisely by carefully editing model number etc. Everything works well, but I noticed that the device does not connect to LTE band 20 towers that are in my neighborhood - even though I can connect to them when I put my sim card into a different phone. The Chinese COL-AL10 does not have band 20, so this lock or unavailability of band 20 seems to have survived the rebranding. A real COL-L29 C432 would be able to connect to band 20.
So, to investigate this further, one would have to study the oeminfo partition of a real COL-L29 C432 and investigate where information on the available LTE bands is stored - if this piece of information is hidden in the oeminfo partition. I can share the oeminfo of the COL-AL10 but have to make sure that my IMEI number cannot be extracted from it.
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I just happened to trade my Samsung Galaxy S7 to Honor 10 andit happens to be that what you're looking for. Can you help me out to help you how to get that information.
I uploaded screenshot where to check its correct build.
Hope this camera beats Galaxy S7 as thats the only reason to change phone at the first place.
banch said:
I just happened to trade my Samsung Galaxy S7 to Honor 10 andit happens to be that what you're looking for. Can you help me out to help you how to get that information.
I uploaded screenshot where to check its correct build.
Hope this camera beats Galaxy S7 as thats the only reason to change phone at the first place.
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Do you have an unlocked bootloader? Otherwise, you cannot read out the oeminfo partition.
I'm sorry I don't have it right now. Maybe I'll root this later on then or can I lock the bootloader again?
banch said:
I'm sorry I don't have it right now. Maybe I'll root this later on then or can I lock the bootloader again?
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Wouldn't you need to pay a third party to unlock it at this point? Or do you keep an unlock code obtained earlier from the days when huawei handled bootloader unlocking? Just wondering. I've kind of learned to suck it up at this point since I'm no longer in the US, so the band issues only affect me when traveling back. However, if there is anyone out there with an unlocked bootloader that can share the oeminfo/know how to understand it, it would be nice to finally figure out if this really is a hardware issue or a software lock.
Hey guys when i go to Sony website and look up bootloader unlock instructions. it says the US variant is locked by verizon.
this is the version i have. Does that mean i cannot unlock bootloader? do i need to return my phone and the global version? The guides posted on here don't seem to mention the model number as if it matters.
Unlock Bootloader - Open Devices - Sony Developer World
developer.sony.com
Unless anything has changed, it is generally known that Verizon phones have a locked bootloader for customer security and in Verizon's interest.
ze7zez said:
Unless anything has changed, it is generally known that Verizon phones have a locked bootloader for customer security and in Verizon's interest.
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Yea I am a first time sony buyer. the phone i have is actually the 5 IV which we don't have a forum for yet.
I usually am buying older phones with established guides and hacks to unlock on here. So i simply missed this since i didn't see it plastered everywhere on the front page of the some other sony forums. my bad.
I am not surprised. just ordered the wrong one thinking it didn't matter for the sony brand.
returning mine now. and ordering the 72.
thud1 said:
Yea I am a first time sony buyer. the phone i have is actually the 5 IV which we don't have a forum for yet.
I usually am buying older phones with established guides and hacks to unlock on here. So i simply missed this since i didn't see it plastered everywhere on the front page of the some other sony forums. my bad.
I am not surprised. just ordered the wrong one thinking it didn't matter for the sony brand.
returning mine now. and ordering the 72.
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It's the same reason I returned US version and bought international version ct72 . So make sure about bands supports for 71 it has 66 which is TMobile and band 41 which i get some good speed depending on the location I'm in.
same here I wanted to root and Use Repainter app and change fonts and I did have the CT62, but I return it back to Sony and bought the CT72, sad that sony doesn`t allow the bootloader to be unlocked on the CT62.
2015Ducatimulti said:
same here I wanted to root and Use Repainter app and change fonts and I did have the CT62, but I return it back to Sony and bought the CT72, sad that sony doesn`t allow the bootloader to be unlocked on the CT62.
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Right i thought they allowed bootloader unlocked on any Xperia really sucks that they didn't allowed it on US specially if I'm paying 1600+ on it lol
raven213 said:
Right i thought they allowed bootloader unlocked on any Xperia really sucks that they didn't allowed it on US specially if I'm paying 1600+ on it lol
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my exact thoughts, 1600.00, no thanks, buy the CT72 and save some money, only thing is you don`t get the USA warranty when you buy the Non-US version, and some missing 5G band`s and the missing MMWave bands
As @2015Ducatimulti mentioned, there is something missing there between the two version.
There is Hardware differences between CT72 and CT62. The US version supports has mmW support and also more bands that are available in the US such as band 2, 66, and 71 used by TMO in addition to mmW 260 and 261.
if your carrier does not have use of these bands and mmW frequencies, then the CT72 should still work as long as you flash the US version ROM. otherwise, you will have coverage issues due and high call drops due to the limited US band support
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As @2015Ducatimulti mentioned, there is something missing there between the two version.
There is Hardware differences between CT72 and CT62. The US version supports has mmW support and also more bands that are available in the US such as band 2, 66, and 71 used by TMO in addition to mmW 260 and 261.
if your carrier does not have use of these bands and mmW frequencies, then the CT72 should still work as long as you flash the US version ROM. otherwise, you will have coverage issues due and high call drops due to the limited US band support
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Flashing US ROM on ct72 will give you signal issues. So far i haven't found a way to get signal working on it.
That might make sense since the RF hardware is different between them and hence the software might not work as expected
FWIW, I just got the Xperia 1 IV, CT-72, using it on AT&T (primary subscriber, no MVNO). Just using the stock ROM, didn't flash any other ROMS.
So far I appear to have 5G as well as VoLTE. No VoWIFI, but I don't care about that anyway.
I'll use it for another week or so to see if AT&T decides to shutdown service for a non whitelisted device, but so far so good. And it was $840 new, vs $1600 for the USA version, so a HUGE cost difference
I by the way did first have to do the trick where you disable dual-sim and only use the primary SIM slot.
Sakete said:
FWIW, I just got the Xperia 1 IV, CT-72, using it on AT&T (primary subscriber, no MVNO). Just using the stock ROM, didn't flash any other ROMS.
So far I appear to have 5G as well as VoLTE. No VoWIFI, but I don't care about that anyway.
I'll use it for another week or so to see if AT&T decides to shutdown service for a non whitelisted device, but so far so good. And it was $840 new, vs $1600 for the USA version, so a HUGE cost difference
I by the way did first have to do the trick where you disable dual-sim and only use the primary SIM slot.
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Is your CT-72 still working on AT&T?
tonysunshine said:
Is your CT-72 still working on AT&T?
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Mine is still going fine on Att elite
David.k20z1 said:
Mine is still going fine on Att elite
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XQ-CT72 No go on Cricket. Data works fine but no calls.