Hey guys,
I just got a few questions with this,
Will i lose my apps, theme and such when installing only a ROOT?
Also what do you guys prefer as ROOT method goes, Chainfire and Odin?
I've seen a ROOT BAT program a while ago that realy did everything for you, i just can't remember the name at the moment...
With that i would also like to ask what happens if i update my device? Will i still be able to update it when Samsung pushes a new update ?
Would i need a custom flash recovery? I used to have a phone wich i did it on, But as this is more of my expensiver phone i aint looking to realy risk it. and due all my apps info etc, has well over 150 apps.
Thanks everybody
Bump,
Sorry if nagging but i'm kinda in a rush, if anyone could help me a little?
I basicly know how you most likely root and stuff, just wanna be sure about a few things and what program/apk is best to get into the S3 at 4.3 firmware
Dr.Luigi said:
Hey guys,
I just got a few questions with this,
Will i lose my apps, theme and such when installing only a ROOT?
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You might lose data.
Few things can be saved, because you have an official (so unrooted) device.
Also what do you guys prefer as ROOT method goes, Chainfire and Odin?
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Odin is needed, Chainfire root is the most famous method.
I've seen a ROOT BAT program a while ago that realy did everything for you, i just can't remember the name at the moment...
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Personally I did root with an automatized software, called Unlock Flash.
The better one is Framaroot, but I don't know how it works.
With that i would also like to ask what happens if i update my device? Will i still be able to update it when Samsung pushes a new update ?
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You'll lost Samsung warranty (no more assistance support, excluded mine and use for software problems [emoji6]), update check and the access to some proprietary apps (You shouldn't be able to download/update from Galaxy Apps).
Normally when you root the device, a CWM custom recovery is included, otherwise you can simply flash via Odin the excellent Philz Recovery, so you'll be able to flash a new Samsung-based rom (ARHD, ArchiPort, Omega, Imperium... aborting the limited stock) or try the greatful AOSP roms (CyanogenMod, Omnirom, PacRom, etc.).
Also custom kernels (BOEFFLA, Googy Max, ArchiKernel and some others, I prevent to cite you outdated ones) and mods (everything!).
Would i need a custom flash recovery? I used to have a phone wich i did it on, But as this is more of my expensiver phone i aint looking to realy risk it. and due all my apps info etc, has well over 150 apps.
Thanks everybody
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Highly recommended, as I said you need this to install a new rom and any other zip file.
For the rest... I haven't understood you.
Can you explain better last things?
Simone98RC said:
You might lose data.
Few things can be saved, because you have an official (so unrooted) device.
Odin is needed, Chainfire root is the most famous method.
Personally I did root with an automatized software, called Unlock Flash.
The better one is Framaroot, but I don't know how it works.
You'll lost Samsung warranty (no more assistance support, excluded mine and use for software problems [emoji6]), update check and the access to some proprietary apps (You shouldn't be able to download/update from Galaxy Apps).
Normally when you root the device, a CWM custom recovery is included, otherwise you can simply flash via Odin the excellent Philz Recovery, so you'll be able to flash a new Samsung-based rom (ARHD, ArchiPort, Omega, Imperium... aborting the limited stock) or try the greatful AOSP roms (CyanogenMod, Omnirom, PacRom, etc.).
Also custom kernels (BOEFFLA, Googy Max, ArchiKernel and some others, I prevent to cite you outdated ones) and mods (everything!).
Highly recommended, as I said you need this to install a new rom and any other zip file.
For the rest... I haven't understood you.
Can you explain better last things?
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Well i would only be intrested in ROOT if i can keep all of my files, apps, widgets and such,
I would have done a new ROM if i wouldnt have had so many apps, it would take hours if not days to get everything back as it used to be would be a rather pain in the ***.
Thanks for your help!
Been a while when i unlocked my old device and rommed it undervoltaged it etc etc.
Dr.Luigi said:
Well i would only be intrested in ROOT if i can keep all of my files, apps, widgets and such,
I would have done a new ROM if i wouldnt have had so many apps, it would take hours if not days to get everything back as it used to be would be a rather pain in the ***.
Thanks for your help!
Been a while when i unlocked my old device and rommed it undervoltaged it etc etc.
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My same problem: too many apps to be restored.
With MyBackupsPRO, the only working without root permissions, you can only keep some settings, contacts, SMS and MMS, then all your apps and games... but without any relative data.
Because as I said you're on an unrooted/official system.
I think you are using an external SD for documents and multimedia files, when you run the first start of your custom rom (highly recommend for the updates, instead the limited stock), be sure that the "Restore data from Google" option is checked.
A discrete help for you, better than nothing.
You have to think that when you did root, backups will be complete, via the greatful Titanium Backup or via recovery with Nandroid backup (my words should be useless if you already have experience with an old device).
Good hacking
As Samsung-based roms I suggest you Android Revolution HD 4.3 or ArchiPort to get the new and officially unsupported 4.4 system.
Pro:
-Compatibility with other Samsung devices;
-Much better camera stabilization than AOSP roms.
Con:
-Touchwiz is heavy for RAM memory and CPU performance;
-Many AOSP functions are completely removed or altered.
As AOSP rom I suggest you CyanogenMod 11, the M builds to have a more stable system, the nightlies for daily updates and less (but always enough) stability.
Pro:
-Latest updates daily/monthly available;
-Many features, AOSP and Cyanogen specific;
-Fully configurable, launcher can be completely replaced, at opposite of Samsung-based roms;
-Greater performance than Samsung-based roms.
Con:
-Some little bug;
-Poor compatibility with Samsung devices and proprietary apps.
As custom kernel, no better one than BOEFFLA: obviously OC and UV support, then lots of functions such "Touch to Wake", a great audio engine, zRAM support, a rich choice of governors and schedulers... it's available for Samsung and many AOSP roms.
Simone98RC said:
My same problem: too many apps to be restored.
With MyBackupsPRO, the only working without root permissions, you can only keep some settings, contacts, SMS and MMS, then all your apps and games... but without any relative data.
Because as I said you're on an unrooted/official system.
I think you are using an external SD for documents and multimedia files, when you run the first start of your custom rom (highly recommend for the updates, instead the limited stock), be sure that the "Restore data from Google" option is checked.
A discrete help for you, better than nothing.
You have to think that when you did root, backups will be complete, via the greatful Titanium Backup or via recovery with Nandroid backup (my words should be useless if you already have experience with an old device).
Good hacking
As Samsung-based roms I suggest you Android Revolution HD 4.3 or ArchiPort to get the new and officially unsupported 4.4 system.
Pro:
-Compatibility with other Samsung devices;
-Much better camera stabilization than AOSP roms.
Con:
-Touchwiz is heavy for RAM memory and CPU performance;
-Many AOSP functions are completely removed or altered.
As AOSP rom I suggest you CyanogenMod 11, the M builds to have a more stable system, the nightlies for daily updates and less (but always enough) stability.
Pro:
-Latest updates daily/monthly available;
-Many features, AOSP and Cyanogen specific;
-Fully configurable, launcher can be completely replaced, at opposite of Samsung-based roms;
-Greater performance than Samsung-based roms.
Con:
-Some little bug;
-Poor compatibility with Samsung devices and proprietary apps.
As custom kernel, no better one than BOEFFLA: obviously OC and UV support, then lots of functions such "Touch to Wake", a great audio engine, zRAM support, a rich choice of governors and schedulers... it's available for Samsung and many AOSP roms.
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Thanks for the great help,
I aint realy sure yet realy,
But isnt there a way you can simple backup almost everything with the PC?
I thought that was faster, then root it and get those back up on the phone with the PC?
Youve made me thinking realy as my phone was getting slower, Samsung OS isnt that great quiet slow indeed,
I might just drop a few games i dont play realy, so i can get my faster phone back as it used to be.
I used to love tweaking my phone realy, till it broke due rain, was a quiet cheap phone 150e or so.
Do you mind giving your SKYPE or Steam? so i could ask you there, Its been 2 years when i did this, some are kinda floating around in my head but i just cant remember it all anymore.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...msung-galaxy-s3-unified-toolkit-v8-0-t1979290
This is what i meant, Its simple and all in 1, just aint sure if its still up to date?
Via ADT Development Tool, you can do the "adb backup" command, but I think it will include the bootloader, so you'll restore the official and unrooted device state.
But I'm not sure, I never used to backup via PC.
Games are almost innocue, except for notification services who consume a bit of resources.
Can you tell me the heavier apps you're using?
According to your words, having too many apps you're not very satisfied about your performance... or I'm wrong?
Simone98RC said:
Via ADT Development Tool, you can do the "adb backup" command, but I think it will include the bootloader, so you'll restore the official and unrooted device state.
But I'm not sure, I never used to backup via PC.
Games are almost innocue, except for notification services who consume a bit of resources.
Can you tell me the heavier apps you're using?
According to your words, having too many apps you're not very satisfied about your performance... or I'm wrong?
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Ye it used to be quiet a bit faster, Might be Samsung OS i forgot the name of the OS but anyhow, wizard or something,
Oh well, i will just do it i guess and i will see on the road what apps i need, the rest clearly seems that i dont need em if i never use em.
I'm guessing that the best would be Clockwork recovery and the SUroot? together with cyanogen ROM and buffalo.
As apps goes its basicly my home screen wich has quiet some widgets and such, all diffrent apps, in some folders like 100 apps etc.
Dr.Luigi said:
Ye it used to be quiet a bit faster, Might be Samsung OS i forgot the name of the OS but anyhow, wizard or something,
Oh well, i will just do it i guess and i will see on the road what apps i need, the rest clearly seems that i dont need em if i never use em.
I'm guessing that the best would be Clockwork recovery and the SUroot? together with cyanogen ROM and buffalo.
As apps goes its basicly my home screen wich has quiet some widgets and such, all diffrent apps, in some folders like 100 apps etc.
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SuperSU is included in CF-Root and so is the most known, but Superuser (from Clockworkmod, the other Superuser is obsolete!) is a great open source alternative.
The best recovery is Philz, always based on CWM, but with extra and TWRP functions.
CyanogenMod yes, is the better choicr and also the easiest choice for root newbies.
Ps Buffalo is a kernel? If it's true, try BOEFFLA, is considered absolutely the best.
Simone98RC said:
SuperSU is included in CF-Root and so is the most known, but Superuser (from Clockworkmod, the other Superuser is obsolete!) is a great open source alternative.
The best recovery is Philz, always based on CWM, but with extra and TWRP functions.
CyanogenMod yes, is the better choicr and also the easiest choice for root newbies.
Ps Buffalo is a kernel? If it's true, try BOEFFLA, is considered absolutely the best.
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Well i meant boeffla of course, Well i cant get it to work, What are the keys to get into TWRP recovery?
As in download mode it tells me its custom, but i cant get into it..
tryed quiet a few combis already
Dr.Luigi said:
Well i meant boeffla of course, Well i cant get it to work, What are the keys to get into TWRP recovery?
As in download mode it tells me its custom, but i cant get into it..
tryed quiet a few combis already
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Tryed again, i cant reboot if i did it would get the old recovery back, so in a push method it worked,
Now SuperSU, i might get a ROM but aint sure yet, Do kernels work on the stock rom aswell?
Dr.Luigi said:
Edit:
Tryed again, i cant reboot if i did it would get the old recovery back, so in a push method it worked,
Now SuperSU, i might get a ROM but aint sure yet, Do kernels work on the stock rom aswell?
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Yes, BOEFFLA works also on stock rom (make sure to flash the correct zip file)... but I haven't understood your problem: can't reboot, old recovery back... what?
Simone98RC said:
Yes, BOEFFLA works also on stock rom (make sure to flash the correct zip file)... but I haven't understood your problem: can't reboot, old recovery back... what?
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Ye nevermind that,
The problem is when i flashed my recovery, that when i reboot it switched automaticly back to the orginal stock recovery,
Only way to repair this was to not reboot, but goto the Philz recovery directly and reinstall the recovery program,
Also rooted it now,
So i can simple install Boefflo on my S3 international, With stock rom and ROOT, philz recovery?
If so that would be sweet ^^
As it should be more sufficient as far as battery goes, and a small overclock to like 1.6Ghz is reasonable ive heard,
1.8 is to high if i can believe those on some forums.
Since the last stable release you can overclock up to 1704 Mhz... and no more 1.5 Ghz step, I don't know the reason.
As I said, BOEFFLA works almost on every rom, but you habe to flash a different zip file for Samsung and AOSP roms.
Why can't you get a custom recovery? Are you sure to flash them reproducing properly the reported Odin guide (what to check in app, where to write file, etc.)?
It's a strange problem, rom "might" be cause by replacing the new recovery with the stock one, I think, but I'm not absolutely sure.
Simone98RC said:
Since the last stable release you can overclock up to 1704 Mhz... and no more 1.5 Ghz step, I don't know the reason.
As I said, BOEFFLA works almost on every rom, but you habe to flash a different zip file for Samsung and AOSP roms.
Why can't you get a custom recovery? Are you sure to flash them reproducing properly the reported Odin guide (what to check in app, where to write file, etc.)?
It's a strange problem, rom "might" be cause by replacing the new recovery with the stock one, I think, but I'm not absolutely sure.
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Well like i said i've fixed that,
The standard way to flash doesnt work, As once i get booted in Samsung ROM, It fixes it, So you have to goto your Recovery immeaditly when youve flashed it, and flash it again in the custom recovery, and then it does work.
Well i will see, aint sure yet if i will do it the kernel and romming.
Thanks for the help
Dr.Luigi said:
Well like i said i've fixed that,
The standard way to flash doesnt work, As once i get booted in Samsung ROM, It fixes it, So you have to goto your Recovery immeaditly when youve flashed it, and flash it again in the custom recovery, and then it does work.
Well i will see, aint sure yet if i will do it the kernel and romming.
Thanks for the help
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Here is also a great kernel. Check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...04-googy-max2-kernel-2-3-1-cm-camera-t2517875
So my girlfriend's EVO 4G LTE is a bit of.. well, I'm gonna say bastard. I'm not new when it comes to rooting devices but I've never had to deal with one that fought me so much.
I've been through this adventure many times with it, and it gets more complicated each time. Here is what's happened with it so far.
It was stock, and it was terrible. It lagged so much, despite factory resets, that apps like google maps were completely unusable. It got no battery life AT ALL, and was generally freeze-happy and miserable.
So then I s-off'd it and after learning all its quirks, installed recovery and CM 11.2 (I think? It's been a year)
This worked great! For.. a few days. The phone worked, we went on vacation to a roaming area where Sprint had no coverage. We come back, and only the data works, texts and calls do not, and the phone acts like it's not activated. Yay. All attempts to get it activated are met with failure, much to the confusion of the poor sprint person on the line. The phone just will not take, at all. (damn lack of real sim cards..) We tried recovering back to a backup from twrp of the stock firmware but that won't work either? It wouldn't register with sprint even on the backed up version of stock sense. The phone seemed dead at this point. Bricked radio?
So we give up. We bring it to the sprint store, and they do some magic to it, and its back to stock, slow and terrible, but functional. We don't touch it until about three weeks ago.
But, my girlfriend is tired, again, of the terribleness, and asks me to try again. Okay, sure.
I install TWRP again, so far so good. The phone is still S-OFF from last time, which is nice. I go to install CM11.2 from the files used from last time (the MD5 does check out correct) But, the phone complains about not having a new enough bootloader. ???? (So I assume sprint downgraded the bootloader in the process of fixing it. somehow)
I forget the exact numbers, but we can't install CM11.2, only 10. or 10.whatever. the newest 10. Okay, fine. I gather a new set of cyanogen files, gapps, whatever, and flash all of that, so far so good.
This time it works, and stays working! Yay! So I thought.
As it turns out, its on a very old version of android (so old that it goes into a special usb file host mode when usb is plugged in) and more importantly, the camera is TERRIBLE. I've read that the evo 4g lte uses a special ImageSense chip to boost camera performance, and that cyanogen 10 does not support it. I can tell, because the camera is absolutely terrible. The battery life also is terrible, presumably because it lacks optimizations. It had way better battery life on CM11.2 when it worked. Other then that, its working just fine, but the camera is just unacceptable.
So, I want to know what to do from here. I see a few paths.
plan A:
update HBOOT to a newer version to allow the install of CM11.2
(how do I do that? I heard you have to use an RUU, but which RUU? I read that there is some touchscreen driver that is an issue depending on what version you run)
(Once I install the ruu is it business as usual, install twrp and then flash cyanogen like normal? Will it do the crazy not activation thing again? was that a fluke??)
plan B:
update HBOOT, but to a much newer one that allows the install of CM12 or whatever the newer ones are. Presumably updating past the touch screen driver issue and not allowing us to go back to an old version.
(once again, what do I need to do that? Is this advisable? I quite prefer the idea of running a newer version. So if this is the better idea, I will do it.)
I thank you greatly for your help. I'm not used to it being this complicated. I've read a lot of things about this phone and it seems very conflicting at times. I just want to get straightened out.
yeah, it's probably running like crap because the firmware is so out of date.
use this RUU http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2653730
then re-flash twrp and another ROM if you want (i've been running cm12.1 for MONTHS) but she might be able to survive just like that. only fear would be staying vulnerable to security threats, but you've been living in that house this whole time anyway.
for a good while i was running this stock 4.3 with root and some xposed modules installed to get the cm functionality that i missed. but seriously, run the RUU, let it activate, then go under settings and update profile and PRL, fire up maps/navigation with GPS on so that it gets a good lock and its cache populated, then you should be good from there.
Thank you!
Can I use the same utility that I used to flash twrp (that one-click thing that seems to support a half million phones) or do I need something special? This sounds very easy to do. Almost too easy, given that the story of this phone's life is that the easiest thing I've ever done to it was take it completely apart to replace its battery.
never used the one-click stuff. flashing recovery via fastboot is simple enough.
get the adb tools, here's some easy instructions for that http://lifehacker.com/the-easiest-way-to-install-androids-adb-and-fastboot-to-1586992378
get the latest twrp from here https://dl.twrp.me/jewel/
then follow these directions to flash twrp https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_jewel#Installing_a_custom_recovery_using_fastboot
if not installing cm or any other rooted rom (you want to root stock) get supersu from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053 and use the twrp installable zip
If you've gone through the trouble to S-Off, then fastboot flash the latest TWRP (3.0.2.0, I believe), which supports the new partition layout (extra 4gig of internal SD space).
From there, flash the official 651.4 developers version, go through the device setup which updates your PRL, then shut it down and reboot to TWRP and flash the latest CM12.1 and a proper gapps package (I use "stock", which is a bit much for some, but I like having everything available to me).
The one thing I do that most don't is to disable zRam and enable swap with my own script I wrote specifically for the external SD I formatted as vFat/ext4/swap.
After doing all this, I do not have the issues you seem to have, and the PRL seems to stay from the last install of stock Sense 5. Even with all the apps I have installed, it's still fairly snappy. Facebook/Messenger, and other memory hogging apps run smooth with no discernable lag, unless there's network issues.
YMMV, but look into using an app like "Ampre" to measure battery life and gauge if the battery is going bad or not.
Outside of that, there's not much left to do with these older devices that hasn't been done already.
Hello guys
I would like some help to make a kind of "Camera-survival-fix" for my GS3, while running the back to noot. I tried most of the roms available, but i keep ending with Back to n00t or QS i9300, but the last one is a mix of Note 2 + S3, and i would like to keep the "Stock-state" of the phone, i mean, maintaining it as a real i9300. back to n00t (as QS i9300) are stock, not heavily customize, they are faster than stock and runs the latest official android for the S3 series (4.4.4). There are a lot of apps that requires this API 19 KitKat as minimun OS, like Google Clock, and even, omg, Pokemon Go, so basically this is a heavy difference if we compare to Samsung's 4.3. Now, to the problem...
I've tried most of the roms, as i said, but back to n00t, my lovely one, destroys the camera after the flash, always, and i have to flash JustArchi's Camera Fix Everything to make it work again, otherwise it will forever give me a error "Camera error/black camera". I've looked into it and discovered there's something about the camera firmware which makes this disgrace happens. My CAM FW ver is ZHFJ02 and i noticed that almost all the other roms have a folder "/data/cfw/" where contains like All the camera firmwares, while back to n00t don't have this folder containing the SlimISP.bin files. I think this is the difference, which make my camera work on the customs, but not this one. I want to keep the ROM to survive cache cleaning and factory resets, without the need to use the Archi Camera Fix Everything thing... Basically, i would like to implement the fix in the ROM. I tried to edit the updater-script.bin on META-INF folder, however it doesn't seems to work, it flashes, but i'm afraid that if i overwrite the ROMs update-binary.bin it may not work at all, please help... any help is much appreaciated...
replace from stock or change rom,
i have problem with sms (proces stop working, when i nothing have installed too, its was random for me) and now change to latest cm13 - much better