Hey guys,
I just got a few questions with this,
Will i lose my apps, theme and such when installing only a ROOT?
Also what do you guys prefer as ROOT method goes, Chainfire and Odin?
I've seen a ROOT BAT program a while ago that realy did everything for you, i just can't remember the name at the moment...
With that i would also like to ask what happens if i update my device? Will i still be able to update it when Samsung pushes a new update ?
Would i need a custom flash recovery? I used to have a phone wich i did it on, But as this is more of my expensiver phone i aint looking to realy risk it. and due all my apps info etc, has well over 150 apps.
Thanks everybody
Bump,
Sorry if nagging but i'm kinda in a rush, if anyone could help me a little?
I basicly know how you most likely root and stuff, just wanna be sure about a few things and what program/apk is best to get into the S3 at 4.3 firmware
Dr.Luigi said:
Hey guys,
I just got a few questions with this,
Will i lose my apps, theme and such when installing only a ROOT?
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You might lose data.
Few things can be saved, because you have an official (so unrooted) device.
Also what do you guys prefer as ROOT method goes, Chainfire and Odin?
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Odin is needed, Chainfire root is the most famous method.
I've seen a ROOT BAT program a while ago that realy did everything for you, i just can't remember the name at the moment...
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Personally I did root with an automatized software, called Unlock Flash.
The better one is Framaroot, but I don't know how it works.
With that i would also like to ask what happens if i update my device? Will i still be able to update it when Samsung pushes a new update ?
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You'll lost Samsung warranty (no more assistance support, excluded mine and use for software problems [emoji6]), update check and the access to some proprietary apps (You shouldn't be able to download/update from Galaxy Apps).
Normally when you root the device, a CWM custom recovery is included, otherwise you can simply flash via Odin the excellent Philz Recovery, so you'll be able to flash a new Samsung-based rom (ARHD, ArchiPort, Omega, Imperium... aborting the limited stock) or try the greatful AOSP roms (CyanogenMod, Omnirom, PacRom, etc.).
Also custom kernels (BOEFFLA, Googy Max, ArchiKernel and some others, I prevent to cite you outdated ones) and mods (everything!).
Would i need a custom flash recovery? I used to have a phone wich i did it on, But as this is more of my expensiver phone i aint looking to realy risk it. and due all my apps info etc, has well over 150 apps.
Thanks everybody
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Highly recommended, as I said you need this to install a new rom and any other zip file.
For the rest... I haven't understood you.
Can you explain better last things?
Simone98RC said:
You might lose data.
Few things can be saved, because you have an official (so unrooted) device.
Odin is needed, Chainfire root is the most famous method.
Personally I did root with an automatized software, called Unlock Flash.
The better one is Framaroot, but I don't know how it works.
You'll lost Samsung warranty (no more assistance support, excluded mine and use for software problems [emoji6]), update check and the access to some proprietary apps (You shouldn't be able to download/update from Galaxy Apps).
Normally when you root the device, a CWM custom recovery is included, otherwise you can simply flash via Odin the excellent Philz Recovery, so you'll be able to flash a new Samsung-based rom (ARHD, ArchiPort, Omega, Imperium... aborting the limited stock) or try the greatful AOSP roms (CyanogenMod, Omnirom, PacRom, etc.).
Also custom kernels (BOEFFLA, Googy Max, ArchiKernel and some others, I prevent to cite you outdated ones) and mods (everything!).
Highly recommended, as I said you need this to install a new rom and any other zip file.
For the rest... I haven't understood you.
Can you explain better last things?
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Well i would only be intrested in ROOT if i can keep all of my files, apps, widgets and such,
I would have done a new ROM if i wouldnt have had so many apps, it would take hours if not days to get everything back as it used to be would be a rather pain in the ***.
Thanks for your help!
Been a while when i unlocked my old device and rommed it undervoltaged it etc etc.
Dr.Luigi said:
Well i would only be intrested in ROOT if i can keep all of my files, apps, widgets and such,
I would have done a new ROM if i wouldnt have had so many apps, it would take hours if not days to get everything back as it used to be would be a rather pain in the ***.
Thanks for your help!
Been a while when i unlocked my old device and rommed it undervoltaged it etc etc.
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My same problem: too many apps to be restored.
With MyBackupsPRO, the only working without root permissions, you can only keep some settings, contacts, SMS and MMS, then all your apps and games... but without any relative data.
Because as I said you're on an unrooted/official system.
I think you are using an external SD for documents and multimedia files, when you run the first start of your custom rom (highly recommend for the updates, instead the limited stock), be sure that the "Restore data from Google" option is checked.
A discrete help for you, better than nothing.
You have to think that when you did root, backups will be complete, via the greatful Titanium Backup or via recovery with Nandroid backup (my words should be useless if you already have experience with an old device).
Good hacking
As Samsung-based roms I suggest you Android Revolution HD 4.3 or ArchiPort to get the new and officially unsupported 4.4 system.
Pro:
-Compatibility with other Samsung devices;
-Much better camera stabilization than AOSP roms.
Con:
-Touchwiz is heavy for RAM memory and CPU performance;
-Many AOSP functions are completely removed or altered.
As AOSP rom I suggest you CyanogenMod 11, the M builds to have a more stable system, the nightlies for daily updates and less (but always enough) stability.
Pro:
-Latest updates daily/monthly available;
-Many features, AOSP and Cyanogen specific;
-Fully configurable, launcher can be completely replaced, at opposite of Samsung-based roms;
-Greater performance than Samsung-based roms.
Con:
-Some little bug;
-Poor compatibility with Samsung devices and proprietary apps.
As custom kernel, no better one than BOEFFLA: obviously OC and UV support, then lots of functions such "Touch to Wake", a great audio engine, zRAM support, a rich choice of governors and schedulers... it's available for Samsung and many AOSP roms.
Simone98RC said:
My same problem: too many apps to be restored.
With MyBackupsPRO, the only working without root permissions, you can only keep some settings, contacts, SMS and MMS, then all your apps and games... but without any relative data.
Because as I said you're on an unrooted/official system.
I think you are using an external SD for documents and multimedia files, when you run the first start of your custom rom (highly recommend for the updates, instead the limited stock), be sure that the "Restore data from Google" option is checked.
A discrete help for you, better than nothing.
You have to think that when you did root, backups will be complete, via the greatful Titanium Backup or via recovery with Nandroid backup (my words should be useless if you already have experience with an old device).
Good hacking
As Samsung-based roms I suggest you Android Revolution HD 4.3 or ArchiPort to get the new and officially unsupported 4.4 system.
Pro:
-Compatibility with other Samsung devices;
-Much better camera stabilization than AOSP roms.
Con:
-Touchwiz is heavy for RAM memory and CPU performance;
-Many AOSP functions are completely removed or altered.
As AOSP rom I suggest you CyanogenMod 11, the M builds to have a more stable system, the nightlies for daily updates and less (but always enough) stability.
Pro:
-Latest updates daily/monthly available;
-Many features, AOSP and Cyanogen specific;
-Fully configurable, launcher can be completely replaced, at opposite of Samsung-based roms;
-Greater performance than Samsung-based roms.
Con:
-Some little bug;
-Poor compatibility with Samsung devices and proprietary apps.
As custom kernel, no better one than BOEFFLA: obviously OC and UV support, then lots of functions such "Touch to Wake", a great audio engine, zRAM support, a rich choice of governors and schedulers... it's available for Samsung and many AOSP roms.
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Thanks for the great help,
I aint realy sure yet realy,
But isnt there a way you can simple backup almost everything with the PC?
I thought that was faster, then root it and get those back up on the phone with the PC?
Youve made me thinking realy as my phone was getting slower, Samsung OS isnt that great quiet slow indeed,
I might just drop a few games i dont play realy, so i can get my faster phone back as it used to be.
I used to love tweaking my phone realy, till it broke due rain, was a quiet cheap phone 150e or so.
Do you mind giving your SKYPE or Steam? so i could ask you there, Its been 2 years when i did this, some are kinda floating around in my head but i just cant remember it all anymore.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...msung-galaxy-s3-unified-toolkit-v8-0-t1979290
This is what i meant, Its simple and all in 1, just aint sure if its still up to date?
Via ADT Development Tool, you can do the "adb backup" command, but I think it will include the bootloader, so you'll restore the official and unrooted device state.
But I'm not sure, I never used to backup via PC.
Games are almost innocue, except for notification services who consume a bit of resources.
Can you tell me the heavier apps you're using?
According to your words, having too many apps you're not very satisfied about your performance... or I'm wrong?
Simone98RC said:
Via ADT Development Tool, you can do the "adb backup" command, but I think it will include the bootloader, so you'll restore the official and unrooted device state.
But I'm not sure, I never used to backup via PC.
Games are almost innocue, except for notification services who consume a bit of resources.
Can you tell me the heavier apps you're using?
According to your words, having too many apps you're not very satisfied about your performance... or I'm wrong?
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Ye it used to be quiet a bit faster, Might be Samsung OS i forgot the name of the OS but anyhow, wizard or something,
Oh well, i will just do it i guess and i will see on the road what apps i need, the rest clearly seems that i dont need em if i never use em.
I'm guessing that the best would be Clockwork recovery and the SUroot? together with cyanogen ROM and buffalo.
As apps goes its basicly my home screen wich has quiet some widgets and such, all diffrent apps, in some folders like 100 apps etc.
Dr.Luigi said:
Ye it used to be quiet a bit faster, Might be Samsung OS i forgot the name of the OS but anyhow, wizard or something,
Oh well, i will just do it i guess and i will see on the road what apps i need, the rest clearly seems that i dont need em if i never use em.
I'm guessing that the best would be Clockwork recovery and the SUroot? together with cyanogen ROM and buffalo.
As apps goes its basicly my home screen wich has quiet some widgets and such, all diffrent apps, in some folders like 100 apps etc.
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SuperSU is included in CF-Root and so is the most known, but Superuser (from Clockworkmod, the other Superuser is obsolete!) is a great open source alternative.
The best recovery is Philz, always based on CWM, but with extra and TWRP functions.
CyanogenMod yes, is the better choicr and also the easiest choice for root newbies.
Ps Buffalo is a kernel? If it's true, try BOEFFLA, is considered absolutely the best.
Simone98RC said:
SuperSU is included in CF-Root and so is the most known, but Superuser (from Clockworkmod, the other Superuser is obsolete!) is a great open source alternative.
The best recovery is Philz, always based on CWM, but with extra and TWRP functions.
CyanogenMod yes, is the better choicr and also the easiest choice for root newbies.
Ps Buffalo is a kernel? If it's true, try BOEFFLA, is considered absolutely the best.
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Well i meant boeffla of course, Well i cant get it to work, What are the keys to get into TWRP recovery?
As in download mode it tells me its custom, but i cant get into it..
tryed quiet a few combis already
Dr.Luigi said:
Well i meant boeffla of course, Well i cant get it to work, What are the keys to get into TWRP recovery?
As in download mode it tells me its custom, but i cant get into it..
tryed quiet a few combis already
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Tryed again, i cant reboot if i did it would get the old recovery back, so in a push method it worked,
Now SuperSU, i might get a ROM but aint sure yet, Do kernels work on the stock rom aswell?
Dr.Luigi said:
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Tryed again, i cant reboot if i did it would get the old recovery back, so in a push method it worked,
Now SuperSU, i might get a ROM but aint sure yet, Do kernels work on the stock rom aswell?
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Yes, BOEFFLA works also on stock rom (make sure to flash the correct zip file)... but I haven't understood your problem: can't reboot, old recovery back... what?
Simone98RC said:
Yes, BOEFFLA works also on stock rom (make sure to flash the correct zip file)... but I haven't understood your problem: can't reboot, old recovery back... what?
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Ye nevermind that,
The problem is when i flashed my recovery, that when i reboot it switched automaticly back to the orginal stock recovery,
Only way to repair this was to not reboot, but goto the Philz recovery directly and reinstall the recovery program,
Also rooted it now,
So i can simple install Boefflo on my S3 international, With stock rom and ROOT, philz recovery?
If so that would be sweet ^^
As it should be more sufficient as far as battery goes, and a small overclock to like 1.6Ghz is reasonable ive heard,
1.8 is to high if i can believe those on some forums.
Since the last stable release you can overclock up to 1704 Mhz... and no more 1.5 Ghz step, I don't know the reason.
As I said, BOEFFLA works almost on every rom, but you habe to flash a different zip file for Samsung and AOSP roms.
Why can't you get a custom recovery? Are you sure to flash them reproducing properly the reported Odin guide (what to check in app, where to write file, etc.)?
It's a strange problem, rom "might" be cause by replacing the new recovery with the stock one, I think, but I'm not absolutely sure.
Simone98RC said:
Since the last stable release you can overclock up to 1704 Mhz... and no more 1.5 Ghz step, I don't know the reason.
As I said, BOEFFLA works almost on every rom, but you habe to flash a different zip file for Samsung and AOSP roms.
Why can't you get a custom recovery? Are you sure to flash them reproducing properly the reported Odin guide (what to check in app, where to write file, etc.)?
It's a strange problem, rom "might" be cause by replacing the new recovery with the stock one, I think, but I'm not absolutely sure.
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Well like i said i've fixed that,
The standard way to flash doesnt work, As once i get booted in Samsung ROM, It fixes it, So you have to goto your Recovery immeaditly when youve flashed it, and flash it again in the custom recovery, and then it does work.
Well i will see, aint sure yet if i will do it the kernel and romming.
Thanks for the help
Dr.Luigi said:
Well like i said i've fixed that,
The standard way to flash doesnt work, As once i get booted in Samsung ROM, It fixes it, So you have to goto your Recovery immeaditly when youve flashed it, and flash it again in the custom recovery, and then it does work.
Well i will see, aint sure yet if i will do it the kernel and romming.
Thanks for the help
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Here is also a great kernel. Check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...04-googy-max2-kernel-2-3-1-cm-camera-t2517875
just got this phone yesterday, and it was on 4.4.4 , so I went through the rooting process (downgrade/root/upgrade) and everything is working fine
I did build my pre-rooted .167 version based on my customization number (downloaded files through xpirifirm), and spent today restoring my backups with titanium, but I just noticed that now I'm using an odexed rom, which I totally hate since it isn't mod-friendly, so I decided to look into deodexing
The thread I found with google points to a deodex script by a dev here on xda, problem is it does not work with Z2, so my only current choice is to download a pre-rooted & deodexed rom and use that, I'd rather create one from my device's Customization FTF file, but I haven't gotten any luck, yet.
I used to have a Note2, and I created a couple of deodexed roms for personal use and for the sake of learning how to use android kitchen, any ideas if it works with the Z2 stock rom (kitchen thread doesn't mention anything)
would appreciate any help, still a Sony/xperia nub, so please take it easy on me
Kamome Tool is something you can use or you can download one already pre-made
yeah, I eventually used that on my phone, and it seems to work fine, although there are some odex files left (due to lack of companion jar files)
I didn't want to download a pre-made rom since it meant different customization number, and people were reporting NC (noise cancellation) not working when using such roms, plus I got to learn something new myself this way
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yeah, I eventually used that on my phone, and it seems to work fine, although there are some odex files left (due to lack of companion jar files)
I didn't want to download a pre-made rom since it meant different customization number, and people were reporting NC (noise cancellation) not working when using such roms, plus I got to learn something new myself this way
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noise cancleing is a odd one.
if it works on your current rom, itll work if you flash anorher
but if you data wipe on the 2nd rom it stops working untill you go back to the one it was working on
so i had a tiwanese FTF flashed and NC was working. i flashed a custom rom and it was still working till i had to wipe my device
I currently have an locked, unrooted Z5C.
I've always rooted my old phones because I liked trying out new features and hopefully get a better faster phone. However, certain things are critical to me (Phone calls, Camera, GPS, Data/Wifi).
To start with, I basically hope to be able to get some software requiring root to work (Gsam Battery root companion, xposed, cpu gov control) and see if there are some bug fixes (like volume boost). Then any improvements to speed (ie. debloating, etc). Then any added functionality like improved GUIs, better ability to backup.
I'm trying to decide if I should go ahead and root or keep waiting for custom ROMs to mature.
As I understand it, there is a procedure to unlock your phone, root, then load replacement DRM keys. What are my options after doing this? Looking thorugh threads, it seems like these are my options:
1. Install back the stock rom. Will this give me identical functionality to what I have now but with the ability to run root-apps?
2. Install a custom ROM. I basically see CM13, XPower, OMNI. If I use a custom ROM, do I loose access to all sony software? (ie. camera app, advanced camera features)
2a. CM13, I see there is currently a bug with videos and bluetooth so that is prob a dealbreaker for me at this point.
2b. XPower ROM. I've been trying to determine what the known bugs for this ROM are.
2c. OMNIROM seems to have issues with the camera so that's prob a dealbreaker as well.
Am I missing any other options?
eng3 said:
I currently have an locked, unrooted Z5C.
I've always rooted my old phones because I liked trying out new features and hopefully get a better faster phone. However, certain things are critical to me (Phone calls, Camera, GPS, Data/Wifi).
To start with, I basically hope to be able to get some software requiring root to work (Gsam Battery root companion, xposed, cpu gov control) and see if there are some bug fixes (like volume boost). Then any improvements to speed (ie. debloating, etc). Then any added functionality like improved GUIs, better ability to backup.
I'm trying to decide if I should go ahead and root or keep waiting for custom ROMs to mature.
As I understand it, there is a procedure to unlock your phone, root, then load replacement DRM keys. What are my options after doing this? Looking thorugh threads, it seems like these are my options:
1. Install back the stock rom. Will this give me identical functionality to what I have now but with the ability to run root-apps?
2. Install a custom ROM. I basically see CM13, XPower, OMNI. If I use a custom ROM, do I loose access to all sony software? (ie. camera app, advanced camera features)
2a. CM13, I see there is currently a bug with videos and bluetooth so that is prob a dealbreaker for me at this point.
2b. XPower ROM. I've been trying to determine what the known bugs for this ROM are.
2c. OMNIROM seems to have issues with the camera so that's prob a dealbreaker as well.
Am I missing any other options?
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If you have no "need" to root I'd hold off. There are no custom Roms that are functional as a daily driver yet. On the contrary the OEM ROM has so many bugs it needs to be rebooted a few times a day and wiped every few weeks so you don't have much to lose!
Here's a list of my mods to lollipop that I run:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/themes-apps/post-setup-apps-tweaks-t3349010
Hello,
I have an issue with making a tweaked, modified, etc TouchWiz ROM (aka BaconOS).
When I debloated, deodexed, deknoxed it with Assayed kitchen (and by flashing a debloat/deknox zip before that), the WiFi stopped working for some reason.
So I tried deodexing and only removing some apps (file manager, camera, samsung store, email, gapps), but that didn't fix the issue.
After that, I tried flashing stock ROM (Nothing changed, extracted using ext4unpacker) with assayed kitchen's updater-script, but still nothing.
Please let me know how to fix this issue.
maybe replace wifi folder from very stock rom..?
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maybe replace wifi folder from very stock rom..?
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It has to do something with deodexing, because when I deodexed the stock rom, wifi stopped working. So the ROM will be odexed (a bit slower)
tried with odex system, problem is with debloating..
Hi, are you seriously making a ROM for this old device? Wow, finally something at last!
Had this device since christmas of 2014 and actively used it as my main device until january 2017.
During this time, I rooted it about 6 times. A couple of times I did it with Kingroot (or was it Kingoroot?) and all was well. But every time I tried to root using a SuperSU root that I found here, there was this glitch that would seemingly trigger out of nowhere, causing infinite "App has closed unexpectedly" messages to appear, along with a black screen behind those warnings, nothing worked until I did a factory reset. Yea, frustrating times...
I have always wondered why nobody bothered to port literally anything to this phone. Not even a (working) custom recovery was ever available for it. There was one that I tried, but was very unsuccessful in trying to boot it.
All that being said, my phone's battery has unfortunately "gone up in size", or "spicy pillow", so I can't really test anything right now.
My phone is the SM-G357FZ running TMZ firmware (Czech republic T-Mobile), and I always wanted to get rid of that and put an unbranded European CSC/firmware onto it.
I support you in your efforts OP and can't wait to test out your work!
Edit: I just discovered that there was an official update released by Samsung in 2021! Have you considered basing your ROM on that instead of the now ancient 2017 ROM?