new note 3 pro with lte band 20 - Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers

hi,
I read about an upcoming note 3 pro version which supports band 20 which is important in germany.
http://www.mi.com/tw/note3/specs/
is it technically possible to upgrade the old one just with a software upgrade??

omg. Band 28 too. Hallelujah!
I hope this will be unlockable too if band 20 is.
Australians, Kiwis, South Americans etc Rejoice!

Wait... on the homepage you just see the MediaTek and the Snapdragon Version?!
In the CM Thread some users report working band 20.
Maybe we will get band 20 and Quick Charge with new firmwareupdate?

Link not working, i'm pretty sure the modem allows us to use 800 and even 700mhz bands the 650 is one of the most recent soc from Qualcomm they just can't forget something like that. Let's wait and see for miui8 Marshmallow (which Will Come for sure, we saw alpha builds for miui7 Marshmallow that means that someone at mi is working on it plus we got official miui Marshmallow kernel they can't throw the job like that)
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We need some testers and devs heree! The 650 features the brand new x8 lte modem which is also present in... the snapdragon 617. And what phone features a 617? HTC a9 which By the way DOES SUPPORT 700 &800 MHZ (B20 & B28) so we just need someone with a a9 to let us see the modem qpst values !!!

The link is working fine for me. The detail of the bands can be seen here: http://www.mi.com/tw/note3/specs/#brand
Yes, I do really hope that we might get the band 20 working after roms are released for the Special Edition (this one). Either that, or maybe after detailed pictures of the motherboard are posted, in case it is disabled by hardware (which I doubt, but it is not impossible). The Special Edition should have started selling yesterday, so we might get our hands on the rom for it.
Would be funny if it used exactly the same rom as normal Note 3 Pro

A9 got 652?!

Klanac89 said:
A9 got 652?!
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617 , a boosted 615 with the x8 lte modem of the 650

aaz03 said:
617 , a boosted 615 with the x8 lte modem of the 650
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Ok, I will try it. Send me a modem of A9.

aaz03 said:
617 , a boosted 615 with the x8 lte modem of the 650
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My bad, I think Galaxy A9.

Klanac89 said:
My bad, I think Galaxy A9.
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Doesn't matter. HTC One A9 and Galaxy A9 has the same modem, X8 LTE. Take a look! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Qualcomm_Snapdragon_devices#Snapdragon_617_and_625

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SIII only Dual Core??

So... Galaxy SIII in Europe comes with quad core processor - or so I've read... Why does the US only get dual core?? Can I use a European SIII on US T-Mobile network if I can get one?
svavrek said:
So... Galaxy SIII in Europe comes with quad core processor - or so I've read... Why does the US only get dual core?? Can I use a European SIII on US T-Mobile network if I can get one?
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The US version has qualcomm chip which supports LTE, the Exynos does not... INTL version has 1GB RAM, and qualcomm has 2GB RAM, yes you can use an unlocked INTL I9300 on T-Mobile but will not get LTE and have less RAM... The trade-offs are up to you...
svavrek said:
So... Galaxy SIII in Europe comes with quad core processor - or so I've read... Why does the US only get dual core?? Can I use a European SIII on US T-Mobile network if I can get one?
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Because the Exynos processor doesn't work with T-Mobile's non-standard 42Mbps on AWS (1700 MHz) and it also doesn't work with the LTE. You can use the international one on T-Mobile but you'll only get EDGE data. If you use it on AT&T though you'll get up to HSPA+ because most of Europe uses the same bands as AT&T (850/1900 MHz). If you want to use international phones, T-Mobile is the worst carrier to be on in terms of data speeds, but they're moving to the same frequency as AT&T, so eventually you'll be able to use it on T-Mobile with up to 21 Mbps.
B-Naughty said:
The qualcomm chip supports LTE, the Exynos does not... INTL version has 1GB RAM, and qualcomm has 2GB RAM, yes you can use an unlocked INTL I9300 on T-Mobile but will not get LTE and have less RAM... The trade-offs are up to you...
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To be fair, the i9300 is a lot faster than the US models. But to be honest, unless you game, you won't notice a different. The 2GB of RAM was a "whoops, my bad" from Samsung for having to switch processors; RAM does not affect performance unless you have too little RAM. Even the Nexus 7 comes with 1GB of RAM. But anyways, it depends how you use your phone. The other big thing is that the US models have the "bug" or "feature" where you might lose your IMEI when flashing anything to the phone, with no chance (so far) to get it back, meaning you'd have to do a warranty swap to get a working phone. The i9300 also gets major updates first. Development, I would say, is about the same for both though.
svavrek said:
So... Galaxy SIII in Europe comes with quad core processor - or so I've read... Why does the US only get dual core?? Can I use a European SIII on US T-Mobile network if I can get one?
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I'll try to reply in a nice way before you get flamed by someone. The quad core version (International) does not support LTE, hence we have the dual core setup which does support LTE. You can use an international device on ATT and T Mobile minus LTE. If I recall correctly you may not even get HSPA + either but I don't know if that is true or not.
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Product F(RED) said:
Because the Exynos processor doesn't work with T-Mobile's non-standard 42Mbps on AWS (1700 MHz) and it also doesn't work with the LTE. You can use the international one on T-Mobile but you'll only get EDGE data. If you use it on AT&T though you'll get up to HSPA+ because most of Europe uses the same bands as AT&T (850/1900 MHz). If you want to use international phones, T-Mobile is the worst carrier to be on in terms of data speeds, but they're moving to the same frequency as AT&T, so eventually you'll be able to use it on T-Mobile with up to 21 Mbps.
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Damn you beat me to it.
Damn we be on this one... LOL
Slight correction. There is a quad-core Exynos that supports LTE. Korea got it, but it wasn't completed by the time the US variants were in full production.
The Root said:
Slight correction. There is a quad-core Exynos that supports LTE. Korea got it, but it wasn't completed by the time the US variants were in full production.
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Because the LTE radio is separate from the Exynos SoC. The Exynos itself does not support LTE. Think HTC Thunderbolt. What this results in is horrible battery life. The Galaxy Tab 7.7 did the same thing with the Exynos dual-core, adding a separate LTE radio with the Exynos processor. If you need LTE, you're better off with the Snapdragon S4 (which is no slouch btw). We're at a cell phone generation where all CPU's perform pretty much the same (current gen meaning S4 - Tegra 3 - Exynos Quad) until you really push them. So again, unless you're benchmarking or heavily gaming, you won't notice a difference.
Also, yes you'll get HSPA+ on AT&T (I'm using my i9300 on Straight Talk), but only EDGE on T-Mobile.
Product F(RED) said:
The other big thing is that the US models have the "bug" or "feature" where you might lose your IMEI when flashing anything to the phone, with no chance (so far) to get it back, meaning you'd have to do a warranty swap to get a working phone.
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I'm starting to think even Samsung doesn't have a clue what's really going on with that... or a very ingenius way to sell some phones at full price... Hasn't deterred me any...
B-Naughty said:
I'm starting to think even Samsung doesn't have a clue what's really going on with that... or a very ingenius way to sell some phones at full price... Hasn't deterred me any...
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Samsung supports developers. They gave the entire CyanogenMod team Galaxy S II's when they first came out. They hired Steve Kondik (Cyanogen), and they worked with XDA devs to try and fix the ICS recovery perma-brick issue on the SII, Note, and other phones. It's probably the carriers that messed with the software without knowing what they were doing.
if you haven't heard already from previous posts the USA s3 supports lte and the UK one doesn't and we also have 2gb of ram they do not but they have a quad core chip to even it out and to be fair.
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Band unlock or access ?

Morning all,
Im looking at a SD 650 version of the Note3 but living in Australia would like the phone to have access to 700, 900, 1800 and 2100 MHz frequencies.
There is a lot of conflicting information regarding this phone and the versions that support different networks.
Searching here doesnt seem to provide me with an answer...
From what i read the 700MHz is the key (band 28?).
Can anyone confirm if they have a rom working for these frequencies? Happy to get either the Chinese or International version of the phone (the mysterious Taiwan versions that do appear seem to be the SD 616 version).
Thanks XDA hope someone can help with the answer,
A lot of people are waiting for the unlock of band 20 and 28 but so far it hasn't been done properly. (banmeifyouwant said he unlocked band20 but had reception problems)
I would recommend you to buy the special edition if you really need band 28 because right now I guess nobody can guarantee you that the bands can be unlocked by software only.
Thanks Man, not the news i wanted to hear. the special international editions dont seem to be that common on sale sites.
most of the international versions seem to be the SD 616 version.
crckmc said:
A lot of people are waiting for the unlock of band 20 and 28 but so far it hasn't been done properly. (banmeifyouwant said he unlocked band20 but had reception problems)
I would recommend you to buy the special edition if you really need band 28 because right now I guess nobody can guarantee you that the bands can be unlocked by software only.
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akallabeth said:
Thanks Man, not the news i wanted to hear. the special international editions dont seem to be that common on sale sites.
most of the international versions seem to be the SD 616 version.
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are you sure that you're not looking at redmi 4g? The note 3 pro special edition has the 650 for sure! You can check here in the anouncement post on miui:
http://en.miui.com/thread-299743-1-1.html
akallabeth said:
Thanks Man, not the news i wanted to hear. the special international editions dont seem to be that common on sale sites.
most of the international versions seem to be the SD 616 version.
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There is no SD 616 version of the Redmi Note 3. Isn't that in som Redmi non-note version?
Here is a version with band 28 for sale but it's only 2GB/16GB gold model for now: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Inte...4256c6095288e34-1469710136055-04171-AqrBIUF6I
Wow how did i miss that the 616 was the non-note... too many phones with similar names.
Thanks for the link, now if only it wasnt gold...
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There is no SD 616 version of the Redmi Note 3. Isn't that in som Redmi non-note version?
Here is a version with band 28 for sale but it's only 2GB/16GB gold model for now: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Inte...4256c6095288e34-1469710136055-04171-AqrBIUF6I
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Wow how did i miss that the 616 was the non-note... too many phones with similar names.
Thanks for the link, now if only it wasnt gold...
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The seller indicated that there would be other colors and sizes later but who knows when...

Supported frequencies/bands?

Gents,
Looking at picking up a Redmi Note 3 Pro but I'm very confused on the frequencies it supports. Every website seems to say something different. I really require 1700/2100mHz for my provider.
From what I've read, certain variations of the phone do, while some don't. How can I tell which?
Much appreciated!
you need the Note 3 Pro Special Edition (aka Kate) which has a snapdragon 650. It's also known as the International edition but that may depend on the seller.
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-3-Pro-5-5-Inch-FHD-3GB-32GB-Smartphone-371103.html
Is the snapdragon 650 the key to determining model? Lots of them on eBay with the 650, but are there different variants even within them?
Appreciate the help
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Is the snapdragon 650 the key to determining model? Lots of them on eBay with the 650, but are there different variants even within them?
Appreciate the help
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Yes, MTK version only has differences between RAM and internal storage sizes (2GB/16GB and 3G/32GB) but the SD versions not only have the RAM/internal storage differences, there is the special/international edition which adds multiple bands.
BobSlob said:
Is the snapdragon 650 the key to determining model? Lots of them on eBay with the 650, but are there different variants even within them?
Appreciate the help
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There are two versions of Snapdragon phones, kenzo and kate. Get the kate version, available at Geekbuying.
Link already provided in this thread.
BobSlob said:
Gents,
Looking at picking up a Redmi Note 3 Pro but I'm very confused on the frequencies it supports. Every website seems to say something different. I really require 1700/2100mHz for my provider.
From what I've read, certain variations of the phone do, while some don't. How can I tell which?
Much appreciated!
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Actually before you buy which variant of the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro, make sure you know what bands your current
phone carrier supports. You mention you require 1700/2100MHz but does your provider support Band 4 (which runs on 1700/2100MHz) for Note 3 Pro Snapdragon variant. Make sure not to buy MediaTek variant since that does not have the frequencies you requested.
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Unheardof said:
Actually before you buy which variant of the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro, make sure you know what bands your current
phone carrier supports. You mention you require 1700/2100MHz but does your provider support Band 4 (which runs on 1700/2100MHz) for Note 3 Pro Snapdragon variant. Make sure not to buy MediaTek variant since that does not have the frequencies you requested.
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I'm referring to check the Band support of your phone provider, since if it definitely has Band 4 listed, then I presume you can use 3G HSPA+ when on Data or even better, the 4G LTE while on Data.
Unheardof said:
Actually before you buy which variant of the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro, make sure you know what bands your current
phone carrier supports. You mention you require 1700/2100MHz but does your provider support Band 4 (which runs on 1700/2100MHz) for Note 3 Pro Snapdragon variant. Make sure not to buy MediaTek variant since that does not have the frequencies you requested.
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I'm referring to check the Band support of your phone provider, since if it definitely has Band 4 listed, then I presume you can use 3G HSPA+ when on Data or even better, the 4G LTE while on Data.
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My carrier supports 1700/2100 for AWS, so that's the big one I need. I don't see it listed anywhere (1700 listed under LTE). I'm not sure if they're the same or not. I'm ready to pull the trigger, just wanna make sure it works =D
goofball2k said:
Yes, MTK version only has differences between RAM and internal storage sizes (2GB/16GB and 3G/32GB) but the SD versions not only have the RAM/internal storage differences, there is the special/international edition which adds multiple bands.
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Thanks goofball... are you using one in Canada? (noticed your Ottawa tag). If so, with which provider?
BobSlob said:
Thanks goofball... are you using one in Canada? (noticed your Ottawa tag). If so, with which provider?
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No, I was about to pull the trigger on one (and still fighting with myself) but decided to wait until the Redmi Note 4 comes out. I'm using a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 which is still a pretty good phone so I'm not in a huge rush.

Redmi note 3 different versions

Hi,
I wanna order my redmi note 3 but i don't know what phone is the right one. there are so many models...
i want to flash a pretty clean AOSP or CM rom on it that is stable so im required to buy the right model.
When i look around i usually see pro's, with 3GB ram and a octa core but i have seen some with hexa core both claiming to be snapdragons...
I want to use this phone in europe.
which one is the Kenzo model with snapdragon and alot of custom roms etc?
are there a lot of 'fake' xiaomi's on ebay?
Greetz
Rens
You get the snapdragon. It is a hexacore SD 650.
What LTE bands do you need? There is a Kate which has more than the Kenzo.
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You get the snapdragon. It is a hexacore SD 650.
What LTE bands do you need? There is a Kate which has more than the Kenzo.
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I think B20, will probably not get 4G unless in bigger city's but i don't care for 4G that much anyway.. 3G is fine by me.
Doesn't kate have less rom choice?
Which is better kate or kenzo? and how do i know which one am buying??
Kate is newer than Kenzo, so yeah it has less support and even some people don't know it exists!
Kenzo is the Redmi note 3 Pro. Has LTE band 3 (1800mhz) only.
Kate is the Redmi note 3 Pro special edition or international edition. Has LTE Band 3 and Band 20 (800mhz).
I ordered the Kate one although I know it has less support, but I need all international LTE bands!

Galaxy s9+ SM-9650

I purchased a SM9650 that I can't seem to figure out if it's config correctly for Verizon. I put my sim card in and it seems to be working correctly but when I put the IMEI in verizon's database it shows as not compatible. what bands does Verizon use. when I load the one menu it's connected on band 4 20mhz. just trying to get some info on this phone. I thought I was getting the SM-965U
stark21 said:
I purchased a SM9650 that I can't seem to figure out if it's config correctly for Verizon. I put my sim card in and it seems to be working correctly but when I put the IMEI in verizon's database it shows as not compatible. what bands does Verizon use. when I load the one menu it's connected on band 4 20mhz. just trying to get some info on this phone. I thought I was getting the SM-965U
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3G : 850 MHz, Band 0 (CDMA). 1900 MHz PCS, Band 1 (CDMA).
4G : 700 MHz Block C, Band 13 (LTE). 1900 MHz PCS, Band 1 (1xRTT/ EV-DO/ eHRPD). 1900 MHz PCS, Band 2 (LTE). 1700/ 2100 MHz AWS, Band 4 (LTE).
Verizon is also testing new LTE equipment in AWS-3 Band 66.
I'm betting you bought the Exynos variant. If possible switch to T-Mobile, they support Exynos equipped devices.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/help/exynos-s9-verizon-s-t3798174
is there a hidden menu to find out the processor that's in this version. going by the spec of model number it's the snapdragon but not 100 percent sure. also I can call and use data so far on verizon so I guess it's working. it has been going between band 2 and band 4 when I look at the one service menu.
stark21 said:
is there a hidden menu to find out the processor that's in this version. going by the spec of model number it's the snapdragon but not 100 percent sure. also I can call and use data so far on verizon so I guess it's working. it has been going between band 2 and band 4 when I look at the one service menu.
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Install the PhoneINFO app, run the app and check Hardware- Platform/Chip.
it's showing SDM845 as cpu and Qualcomm Adreno 630 as gpu
stark21 said:
it's showing SDM845 as cpu and Qualcomm Adreno 630 as gpu
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My bad, SM-G965F is the Exynos variant. You're phone works on Verizon as you've shared however if you need VoLTE or Wifi Calling it's not compatible.. Lots of discussion here as to the differences between Exynos and Snapdragon variants. Nice thing about your device is the bootloader is unlocked meaning you have the ability to install custom ROM's, something the US Snapdragon variants don't have.
ok thanks, I will have to read up on this particular phone to see what it's capable of doing.
stark21 said:
ok thanks, I will have to read up on this particular phone to see what it's capable of doing.
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What's the CSC Code on your device?
under phone info it shows active csc TTT
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under phone info it shows active csc TTT
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CSC - Trinidad Tobago
Great phone! If you just got it you may want to see if you have the latest software and security update. Open Settings, search Update then Download updates manually while connected to wifi.
says phone is up to date when I do the update software. out of curiosity what makes this a great phone in your opinion.
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says phone is up to date when I do the update software. out of curiosity what makes this a great phone in your opinion.
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Well, it's a Galaxy S9 Plus, arguably the best smartphone money can buy and the SM-G9650 is the top of the line. I've had mine (SM-G9650 - Snapdragon - Hong Kong) since it debuted in March and the upgrades over the S8+ are more significant than spec comparisons between the two models would indicate. It runs smoother and faster than my previous S8+ by far. IMHO you're fortunate you bought the International variant over the US device since you can flash the software and customize it's functions to your personal liking. Opinions vary between the Exynos and Snapdragon chipsets but based on what's been shared the Exynos equipped devices have more bugs, they're prone to overheating and they're gaming speeds lag behind Snapdragon chips. Also others running Exynos chips have had problems with Verizon connectivity and Samsung Pay. Not sure if this is your first Galaxy Smartphone but I'm guessing you're going to really like your device.
I have had other Galaxy phones but this is first one that is international version so will be learning what I can do with it.
Have a look at the spec shared in this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-difference-s9-dual-duos-vs-s9-t3774559/page2
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My bad, SM-G965F is the Exynos variant. You're phone works on Verizon as you've shared however if you need VoLTE or Wifi Calling it's not compatible.. Lots of discussion here as to the differences between Exynos and Snapdragon variants. Nice thing about your device is the bootloader is unlocked meaning you have the ability to install custom ROM's, something the US Snapdragon variants don't have.
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This is false. I am writing this in my SM-G9650 and it is currently on Verizon with volte working just fine. I don't think vowifi works as it needs special software but volte works just fine. It's not apparent as there is none of the VZW custom software that indicates it but I have full internet access while on the phone and if you dig into the low level network connection status stuff it clearly states that I have a volte connection.
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ok thanks, I will have to read up on this particular phone to see what it's capable of doing.
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You need to use a specific multi csc variant to get everything working correctly. The variant I've been using is the one for CHL or PGU. They both install the OWA CSC which is the one you want.
If you are feeling braver, download a vzw 965U firmware and flash only the CSC with the rest of the 9650 firmware. The 9650 firmware will work with the 965u CSC, and will definitely make sure everything works and is named correctly
ok I will take a look at what you mentioned.
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This is false. I am writing this in my SM-G9650 and it is currently on Verizon with volte working just fine. I don't think vowifi works as it needs special software but volte works just fine. It's not apparent as there is none of the VZW custom software that indicates it but I have full internet access while on the phone and if you dig into the low level network connection status stuff it clearly states that I have a volte connection.
You need to use a specific multi csc variant to get everything working correctly. The variant I've been using is the one for CHL or PGU. They both install the OWA CSC which is the one you want.
If you are feeling braver, download a vzw 965U firmware and flash only the CSC with the rest of the 9650 firmware. The 9650 firmware will work with the 965u CSC, and will definitely make sure everything works and is named correctly
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