Morning all,
Im looking at a SD 650 version of the Note3 but living in Australia would like the phone to have access to 700, 900, 1800 and 2100 MHz frequencies.
There is a lot of conflicting information regarding this phone and the versions that support different networks.
Searching here doesnt seem to provide me with an answer...
From what i read the 700MHz is the key (band 28?).
Can anyone confirm if they have a rom working for these frequencies? Happy to get either the Chinese or International version of the phone (the mysterious Taiwan versions that do appear seem to be the SD 616 version).
Thanks XDA hope someone can help with the answer,
A lot of people are waiting for the unlock of band 20 and 28 but so far it hasn't been done properly. (banmeifyouwant said he unlocked band20 but had reception problems)
I would recommend you to buy the special edition if you really need band 28 because right now I guess nobody can guarantee you that the bands can be unlocked by software only.
Thanks Man, not the news i wanted to hear. the special international editions dont seem to be that common on sale sites.
most of the international versions seem to be the SD 616 version.
crckmc said:
A lot of people are waiting for the unlock of band 20 and 28 but so far it hasn't been done properly. (banmeifyouwant said he unlocked band20 but had reception problems)
I would recommend you to buy the special edition if you really need band 28 because right now I guess nobody can guarantee you that the bands can be unlocked by software only.
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akallabeth said:
Thanks Man, not the news i wanted to hear. the special international editions dont seem to be that common on sale sites.
most of the international versions seem to be the SD 616 version.
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are you sure that you're not looking at redmi 4g? The note 3 pro special edition has the 650 for sure! You can check here in the anouncement post on miui:
http://en.miui.com/thread-299743-1-1.html
akallabeth said:
Thanks Man, not the news i wanted to hear. the special international editions dont seem to be that common on sale sites.
most of the international versions seem to be the SD 616 version.
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There is no SD 616 version of the Redmi Note 3. Isn't that in som Redmi non-note version?
Here is a version with band 28 for sale but it's only 2GB/16GB gold model for now: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Inte...4256c6095288e34-1469710136055-04171-AqrBIUF6I
Wow how did i miss that the 616 was the non-note... too many phones with similar names.
Thanks for the link, now if only it wasnt gold...
_mfm_ said:
There is no SD 616 version of the Redmi Note 3. Isn't that in som Redmi non-note version?
Here is a version with band 28 for sale but it's only 2GB/16GB gold model for now: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Inte...4256c6095288e34-1469710136055-04171-AqrBIUF6I
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Wow how did i miss that the 616 was the non-note... too many phones with similar names.
Thanks for the link, now if only it wasnt gold...
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The seller indicated that there would be other colors and sizes later but who knows when...
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Hi all,
I'm considering getting a Redmi Note 3 (Snapdragon version/Pro). I'm a little confused about the bands that it supports. When I check wellmyphonework.net it says that the Global model will work on LTE Band 4, but the China/Unicom one will not. Looking in the forums I see Global and China Roms, but nothing definitive about separate physical models.
Is the hardware all the same(ignoring RAM/Storage variations)? Do the supported bands depend solely on which ROM is installed? If there are distinct hardware versions is there any way to tell which one I would get from ebay or AliExpress?
Thanks in advance.
smallmj said:
Hi all,
I'm considering getting a Redmi Note 3 (Snapdragon version/Pro). I'm a little confused about the bands that it supports. When I check wellmyphonework.net it says that the Global model will work on LTE Band 4, but the China/Unicom one will not. Looking in the forums I see Global and China Roms, but nothing definitive about separate physical models.
Is the hardware all the same(ignoring RAM/Storage variations)? Do the supported bands depend solely on which ROM is installed? If there are distinct hardware versions is there any way to tell which one I would get from ebay or AliExpress?
Thanks in advance.
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The lte band support is hardware dependant, software doesn't matter.
I've bought mine with China global and lte is working fine in Europe.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
mr.loverlover said:
The lte band support is hardware dependant, software doesn't matter.
I've bought mine with China global and lte is working fine in Europe.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
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That's simply not true. The SD650 supports Band 4 which is what he's asking about. Europe doesn't use Band 4 and all the versions support European lte bands. On another thread here a user with AT&T was getting lte on the vendor rom and changed to the Global rom and now only gets H+. I too would like to know which version of the phone I have.
hi,
I read about an upcoming note 3 pro version which supports band 20 which is important in germany.
http://www.mi.com/tw/note3/specs/
is it technically possible to upgrade the old one just with a software upgrade??
omg. Band 28 too. Hallelujah!
I hope this will be unlockable too if band 20 is.
Australians, Kiwis, South Americans etc Rejoice!
Wait... on the homepage you just see the MediaTek and the Snapdragon Version?!
In the CM Thread some users report working band 20.
Maybe we will get band 20 and Quick Charge with new firmwareupdate?
Link not working, i'm pretty sure the modem allows us to use 800 and even 700mhz bands the 650 is one of the most recent soc from Qualcomm they just can't forget something like that. Let's wait and see for miui8 Marshmallow (which Will Come for sure, we saw alpha builds for miui7 Marshmallow that means that someone at mi is working on it plus we got official miui Marshmallow kernel they can't throw the job like that)
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We need some testers and devs heree! The 650 features the brand new x8 lte modem which is also present in... the snapdragon 617. And what phone features a 617? HTC a9 which By the way DOES SUPPORT 700 &800 MHZ (B20 & B28) so we just need someone with a a9 to let us see the modem qpst values !!!
The link is working fine for me. The detail of the bands can be seen here: http://www.mi.com/tw/note3/specs/#brand
Yes, I do really hope that we might get the band 20 working after roms are released for the Special Edition (this one). Either that, or maybe after detailed pictures of the motherboard are posted, in case it is disabled by hardware (which I doubt, but it is not impossible). The Special Edition should have started selling yesterday, so we might get our hands on the rom for it.
Would be funny if it used exactly the same rom as normal Note 3 Pro
A9 got 652?!
Klanac89 said:
A9 got 652?!
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617 , a boosted 615 with the x8 lte modem of the 650
aaz03 said:
617 , a boosted 615 with the x8 lte modem of the 650
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Ok, I will try it. Send me a modem of A9.
aaz03 said:
617 , a boosted 615 with the x8 lte modem of the 650
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My bad, I think Galaxy A9.
Klanac89 said:
My bad, I think Galaxy A9.
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Doesn't matter. HTC One A9 and Galaxy A9 has the same modem, X8 LTE. Take a look! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Qualcomm_Snapdragon_devices#Snapdragon_617_and_625
Gents,
Looking at picking up a Redmi Note 3 Pro but I'm very confused on the frequencies it supports. Every website seems to say something different. I really require 1700/2100mHz for my provider.
From what I've read, certain variations of the phone do, while some don't. How can I tell which?
Much appreciated!
you need the Note 3 Pro Special Edition (aka Kate) which has a snapdragon 650. It's also known as the International edition but that may depend on the seller.
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-3-Pro-5-5-Inch-FHD-3GB-32GB-Smartphone-371103.html
Is the snapdragon 650 the key to determining model? Lots of them on eBay with the 650, but are there different variants even within them?
Appreciate the help
BobSlob said:
Is the snapdragon 650 the key to determining model? Lots of them on eBay with the 650, but are there different variants even within them?
Appreciate the help
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Yes, MTK version only has differences between RAM and internal storage sizes (2GB/16GB and 3G/32GB) but the SD versions not only have the RAM/internal storage differences, there is the special/international edition which adds multiple bands.
BobSlob said:
Is the snapdragon 650 the key to determining model? Lots of them on eBay with the 650, but are there different variants even within them?
Appreciate the help
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There are two versions of Snapdragon phones, kenzo and kate. Get the kate version, available at Geekbuying.
Link already provided in this thread.
BobSlob said:
Gents,
Looking at picking up a Redmi Note 3 Pro but I'm very confused on the frequencies it supports. Every website seems to say something different. I really require 1700/2100mHz for my provider.
From what I've read, certain variations of the phone do, while some don't. How can I tell which?
Much appreciated!
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Actually before you buy which variant of the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro, make sure you know what bands your current
phone carrier supports. You mention you require 1700/2100MHz but does your provider support Band 4 (which runs on 1700/2100MHz) for Note 3 Pro Snapdragon variant. Make sure not to buy MediaTek variant since that does not have the frequencies you requested.
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Unheardof said:
Actually before you buy which variant of the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro, make sure you know what bands your current
phone carrier supports. You mention you require 1700/2100MHz but does your provider support Band 4 (which runs on 1700/2100MHz) for Note 3 Pro Snapdragon variant. Make sure not to buy MediaTek variant since that does not have the frequencies you requested.
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I'm referring to check the Band support of your phone provider, since if it definitely has Band 4 listed, then I presume you can use 3G HSPA+ when on Data or even better, the 4G LTE while on Data.
Unheardof said:
Actually before you buy which variant of the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro, make sure you know what bands your current
phone carrier supports. You mention you require 1700/2100MHz but does your provider support Band 4 (which runs on 1700/2100MHz) for Note 3 Pro Snapdragon variant. Make sure not to buy MediaTek variant since that does not have the frequencies you requested.
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I'm referring to check the Band support of your phone provider, since if it definitely has Band 4 listed, then I presume you can use 3G HSPA+ when on Data or even better, the 4G LTE while on Data.
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My carrier supports 1700/2100 for AWS, so that's the big one I need. I don't see it listed anywhere (1700 listed under LTE). I'm not sure if they're the same or not. I'm ready to pull the trigger, just wanna make sure it works =D
goofball2k said:
Yes, MTK version only has differences between RAM and internal storage sizes (2GB/16GB and 3G/32GB) but the SD versions not only have the RAM/internal storage differences, there is the special/international edition which adds multiple bands.
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Thanks goofball... are you using one in Canada? (noticed your Ottawa tag). If so, with which provider?
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Thanks goofball... are you using one in Canada? (noticed your Ottawa tag). If so, with which provider?
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No, I was about to pull the trigger on one (and still fighting with myself) but decided to wait until the Redmi Note 4 comes out. I'm using a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 which is still a pretty good phone so I'm not in a huge rush.
Is there a major difference between the x820 and the x829 version? From what i could find on the internet the x829 is the version for the US and i'm not sure if it has bootloader unlocked, considering the 64 gb ROM i would risk buying it, but if lte wont work in Romania on this version, and there's no way to instal another custom rom thats a no buy, please tell me your thoughts
P.S. sorry for the basic language i'm not a expert in this field
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Is there a major difference between the x820 and the x829 version? From what i could find on the internet the x829 is the version for the US and i'm not sure if it has bootloader unlocked, considering the 64 gb ROM i would risk buying it, but if lte wont work in Romania on this version, and there's no way to instal another custom rom thats a no buy, please tell me your thoughts
P.S. sorry for the basic language i'm not a expert in this field
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You can look on this site: willmyphonework.net
There you can choose brand,model,country and your provider.
Website mentioned does not help, as you can't select variants.
As far as I know (I have ordered it myself) X829 is USA version, so it DOES NOT HAVE BAND 20. I would skip on this one if your 4G/LTE carrier is emitting via B20 frequency.
Here in Montenegro, 2 out of 3 carriers have 4G and both use bands 3 and 7, so I am covered and don't really care about B20.
There is a tool that unlocks bands, yet nobody confirmed that it actually works.
As far as custom ROMs are a concern, they all are interchangeable , means all ROMs can be used on all variants, X820, X821, X823, X829...
voolandis said:
Website mentioned does not help, as you can't select variants.
As far as I know (I have ordered it myself) X829 is USA version, so it DOES NOT HAVE BAND 20. I would skip on this one if your 4G/LTE carrier is emitting via B20 frequency.
Here in Montenegro, 2 out of 3 carriers have 4G and both use bands 3 and 7, so I am covered and don't really care about B20.
There is a tool that unlocks bands, yet nobody confirmed that it actually works.
As far as custom ROMs are a concern, they all are interchangeable , means all ROMs can be used on all variants, X820, X821, X823, X829...
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Yeah you're right. I didn't think about that
voolandis said:
Website mentioned does not help, as you can't select variants.
As far as I know (I have ordered it myself) X829 is USA version, so it DOES NOT HAVE BAND 20. I would skip on this one if your 4G/LTE carrier is emitting via B20 frequency.
Here in Montenegro, 2 out of 3 carriers have 4G and both use bands 3 and 7, so I am covered and don't really care about B20.
There is a tool that unlocks bands, yet nobody confirmed that it actually works.
As far as custom ROMs are a concern, they all are interchangeable , means all ROMs can be used on all variants, X820, X821, X823, X829...
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Cheers mate ,now i know what to look for, not so many informations on the internet about the phone variants...
what are your thoughts overall on the phone did you encounter any of the problems with the screen flickering or fingerprint scanner?
Thank you it will work it uses band 3 and 7 just like in montenegro so no problem there
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Is there a major difference between the x820 and the x829 version? From what i could find on the internet the x829 is the version for the US and i'm not sure if it has bootloader unlocked, considering the 64 gb ROM i would risk buying it, but if lte wont work in Romania on this version, and there's no way to instal another custom rom thats a no buy, please tell me your thoughts
P.S. sorry for the basic language i'm not a expert in this field
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I have x820 working perfectly in Lithuania, you can check your Country's LTE supported bands on this link; http://willmyphonework.net/ and hardware for all version of max 2 is the same, you can always switch between roms.
Most webshop are pre-selling the X829 and will ship fom Feb 28, let's wait a few days to have them in hand and have actual experince on whether they have B20 and if they can be unlocked. (I want to know also if they do)
razvan1000 said:
Cheers mate ,now i know what to look for, not so many informations on the internet about the phone variants...
what are your thoughts overall on the phone did you encounter any of the problems with the screen flickering or fingerprint scanner?
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Phone is still shipping, so I can't tell you yet
voolandis said:
Website mentioned does not help, as you can't select variants.
As far as I know (I have ordered it myself) X829 is USA version, so it DOES NOT HAVE BAND 20. I would skip on this one if your 4G/LTE carrier is emitting via B20 frequency.
Here in Montenegro, 2 out of 3 carriers have 4G and both use bands 3 and 7, so I am covered and don't really care about B20.
There is a tool that unlocks bands, yet nobody confirmed that it actually works.
As far as custom ROMs are a concern, they all are interchangeable , means all ROMs can be used on all variants, X820, X821, X823, X829...
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Sorry man, but are you sure that I can use a x820's rom on x829 version? Because there is an awesome x820 rom by cuoco92
Hello in an German Forum a user told that all Roms are working for the X829 and the LTE Band 20 have been unlocked
And than he said he was mistaken, 'cose his phone was x820, not as he belived x829
There's no proof b20 is gonna work - yet.
kinetiq said:
And than he said he was mistaken, 'cose his phone was x820, not as he belived x829
There's no proof b20 is gonna work - yet.
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In some german forum, not here on XDA as you problably think of. I know of our case also.
that would be very fortunate, if true
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that would be very fortunate, if true
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Yes, he got his Phone last friday. He wrote, the unlock with the DFS-Tool is done like the manual description. He can't test the LTE-Band, because he havn't a SIM with LTE. He is waiting for a new SIM to test the x829. DFS-Tool shown a unlocked B20
link it here, bitte
Has anyone tried the x829 in the US CDMA carriers like Verizon, if it works on them it will be e killer deal!
Thinking about buying this phone. Can you guys tell me the common issues with this phone? The one I'm most concerned with is the headphone jack, does it produce hiss sound at low volume? I ask this since I came across a lot of phones with that issue. Thanks in advance
linkzex said:
Thinking about buying this phone. Can you guys tell me the common issues with this phone? The one I'm most concerned with is the headphone jack, does it produce hiss sound at low volume? I ask this since I came across a lot of phones with that issue. Thanks in advance
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I personally don't experience hissing on this phone. As far as issues, it involves the OTA from Vendor Roms which bricked some devices. You can check your ROM version and cross reference it with the ones on the Mi website to make sure. Aside from that, I don't see anything wrong with the phone.
Hi, I'm also considering to buy Note 5 and I just wanted to say that I don't have that problem with Note 4, it doesn't mean much since I don't use N5 but I think there is very very little chance for hissing issue in any device produced in 2017.
Hi just want to ask about redmi note 5 plus.
1. How could i know if it is a international variant
2. Any one show me an SS of something like model name or variant for international variant so that i have a clue when buying it
LabLab...28 said:
Hi just want to ask about redmi note 5 plus.
1. How could i know if it is a international variant
2. Any one show me an SS of something like model name or variant for international variant so that i have a clue when buying it
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Did you manage to get the info? Please share if you did.
Is the india model the international variant?
Thanks
antares* said:
Did you manage to get the info? Please share if you did.
Is the india model the international variant?
Thanks
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No one is concern bro. ;(
Hello, I have Redmi 5 in Pakistan. It is a international variant. Screenshots are attached. Hope they help. Thanks.
LabLab...28 said:
Hi just want to ask about redmi note 5 plus.
1. How could i know if it is a international variant
2. Any one show me an SS of something like model name or variant for international variant so that i have a clue when buying it
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Hi, when I purchased seller offer also a global variant for 40 usd more.
Many people confuse about global device version and global firmware that it´s not the same.
You just have to pay special attention to the bands that is enabled, the global version has more bands enabled, by i.e my version that is a non global doesn´t have LTE bands 2 (1900) nor 4 (1700/2100) it mean that in my country it can´t work on 4G (of course I bought it so it is cause I didn´t need). This is the main difference.
SubwayChamp said:
Hi, when I purchased seller offer also a global variant for 40 usd more.
Many people confuse about global device version and global firmware that it´s not the same.
You just have to pay special attention to the bands that is enabled, the global version has more bands enabled, by i.e my version that is a non global doesn´t have LTE bands 2 (1900) nor 4 (1700/2100) it mean that in my country it can´t work on 4G (of course I bought it so it is cause I didn´t need). This is the main difference.
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I really don't understand because my device is working with the B4 (1700) band but it is not a real Global version. :silly:
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I really don't understand because my device is working with the B4 (1700) band but it is not a real Global version. :silly:
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Why do you say that has B4? Where you saw it?
Look at this info, just 4G apparted, this is a non-global version from a chinese seller you can find these specs;
4G FDD LTE B5:850 /B8:900 /B3:1800 /B1:2100 /B7:2600
TD LTE B38：2600 /B39：1900/ B40：2300 /B41：2500 MHz
TD or TDD is the LTE FOR China, look up FDD LTE bands.
And this is a Global version, seller usually put in a red highlighted the bands added
4G: FDD LTE B5:850 /B8:900 /B3:1800 /B1:2100 /B7:2600 /B4:1700 /B20:800;
TD LTE B38：2600 / B40：2300
Differences here are bands 4 for Latin America and guess some regions of Asia and maybe others and band 20 for Spain.
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Why do you say that has B4? Where you saw it?
Look at this info, just 4G apparted, this is a non-global version from a chinese seller you can find these specs;
4G FDD LTE B5:850 /B8:900 /B3:1800 /B1:2100 /B7:2600
TD LTE B38：2600 /B39：1900/ B40：2300 /B41：2500 MHz
TD or TDD is the LTE FOR China, look up FDD LTE bands.
And this is a Global version, seller usually put in a red highlighted the bands added
4G: FDD LTE B5:850 /B8:900 /B3:1800 /B1:2100 /B7:2600 /B4:1700 /B20:800;
TD LTE B38：2600 / B40：2300
Differences here are bands 4 for Latin America and guess some regions of Asia and maybe others and band 20 for Spain.
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I mentioned that because my 4g shouldn't work but it appears in the notification bar.
I bought the "Official Global ROM" (I saw it is not the Global Version)
FDD LTE B3:1800/B1:2100/B7:2600/B5:850/B8:900MHz
TDD LTE B34:2100/B38:2600/B39:1900/B40:2300/B41:2500MHz
This confuses me :silly:
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I mentioned that because my 4g shouldn't work but it appears in the notification bar.
I bought the "Official Global ROM" (I saw it is not the Global Version)
FDD LTE B3:1800/B1:2100/B7:2600/B5:850/B8:900MHz
TDD LTE B34:2100/B38:2600/B39:1900/B40:2300/B41:2500MHz
This confuses me :silly:
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No, if your device hasn´t these two added bands definitely it´s not a global version (global rom concept mean nothing for this) is a hardware limitation although can work within 4G depending on your company carrier in some of the 5 frequencies enabled.
I have a Chinese RN5, it has loads of bands dudes. The chance of it not working on your network are slim.
As for the headphones dilemma, they do not hiss or produce low volume. Altho if you pair them with Xiaomi Pro HD which have a high impedance then you will notice a lack in volume. That can be easily fixed with Dolby Atmos the Magisk Module.