Hello all,
I am having some difficulties getting my LG-H830 working on Verizon. The phone is carrier unlocked, stock rooted and BL unlocked. I've gone through the hidden menu and when I set LTE band to 2 or 4, it says SUCCESS. I've activated the SIM on another phone before moving over to the G5 and it shows up on my account.
I get bars but no LTE symbol, so I can't make calls via VoLTE (voice over LTE) and I don't have data. When I had it working on T-Mobile, there was an LTE symbol so I know it has LTE modem. I'm wondering if I need to modify build.prop to work on bands 2,4?
FYI on the lockscreen top left it says searching. A bit odd since I have four bars.
Any ideas? Appreciate any feedback!
I'm out of a phone until its working.
EDIT/UPDATE:
I'm trying to find the proper build.prop settings to get LTE working. Currently I am looking at my VZW LG G3 build.prop, however I've yet to change any settings that gets the LTE icon showing up. I've replaced the apns-conf.xml file from the G3 in order to have the proper APN configuration.
Things I'm trying (for the most part):
ro.build.target_operator=TMO (as VZW I do not get any service, with TMO it says Verizon Wireless and I get bars, but no LTE)
ro.telephony.default_network=10 (was 9)
telephony.lteOnCdmaDevice=1 (was commented out)
ro.cdma.home.operator.numeric=311480 (didn't exist)
ro.cdma.home.operator.alpha=Verizon (didn't exist)
gsm.sim.operator.alpha=Verizon (didn't exist)
gsm.sim.operator.numeric=311480 (didn't exist)
gsm.operator.alpha=Verizon (didn't exist)
gsm.operator.numeric=311480 (didn't exist)
persist.radio.volte.dan_support=true (didn't exist)
ro.afwdata.LGfeatureset=VZWBASE (was TMUSBASE)
persist.lg.data.fd=0 (was -1)
ro.com.google.clientidbase.ms=android-verizon (was android-hms-tmobile-us)
ro.com.google.clientidbase.am=android-verizon (was android-tmobile-us)
ro.com.google.clientidbase.yt=android-verizon (was android-om-lge)
I can also go into the hidden menu. Attached is what shows after selecting LTE only for the RAT.
NOTE:
Band4 confirmed in my area
A gsm phone won't work on Verizon because they are a cdma carrier you can only use it on carriers who use att or T-Mobile towers because they use gsm networks.
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shaneg79 said:
A gsm phone won't work on Verizon because they are a cdma carrier you can only use it on carriers who use att or T-Mobile towers because they use gsm networks.
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The LG-H830 supports LTE bands 2 and 4. It also supports VoLTE (Voice over LTE) and so does Verizon. I don't believe yet that it isn't going to work.
Have you confirmed the correct apn has been setup in settings - mobile networks? These aren't always set up automatically, and if it isn't set up right, you will have a regular phone connection but no data connection.
Withoutab said:
Have you confirmed the correct apn has been setup in settings - mobile networks? These aren't always set up automatically, and if it isn't set up right, you will have a regular phone connection but no data connection.
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Copied directly from my VZW LG G3 (4G). It is actually showing the radio as connected to 4G, just no 4G icon, data or calling.
Have you checked here: verizonwireless.com/bring-your-own-device/
According to T-Mobile site, your g5 doesn't support LTE band 13, wich is verizons main band..
Edit: This is a guide for adding bands
Withoutab said:
Have you checked here: verizonwireless.com/bring-your-own-device/
According to T-Mobile site, your g5 doesn't support LTE band 13, wich is verizons main band..
Edit: This is a guide for adding bands
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I'm aware that it doesn't support band 13, however in my area I've confirmed that band 4 is in production. My LG G3 is currently connected to band 4.
I've seen that thread before, I should probably add band 13. I don't think that is my issue at the moment though. It could be that Verizon requires a connection to CDMA before 4G use is allowed. I'm not entirely sure. Theoretically it should work..
This one is for the g4, might be more compatible with the g5. Maybe it's possible to unlock the cdma bands aswell.
Good luck and please report if you succeed
Withoutab said:
This one is for the g4, might be more compatible with the g5. Maybe it's possible to unlock the cdma bands aswell.
Good luck and please report if you succeed
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Thanks! When I get some spare time I'll give it a shot. If you think of anything else even if its a long shot, please let me know!
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jhasty01 said:
The LG-H830 supports LTE bands 2 and 4. It also supports VoLTE (Voice over LTE) and so does Verizon. I don't believe yet that it isn't going to work.
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I tried to use my T-Mobile LG g5 on Sprint and it wouldn't work I asked both sprint and T-Mobile they both told me it wouldn't work because the network's were different. I would love to get band 17 working on mine so I can use that band on cricket because they have a cheap truly unlimited plan but I don't think it's possible is the only band the T-Mobile LG g5 doesn't have that att uses but if you or someone figures out how to do it would love to know about it!
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shaneg79 said:
I tried to use my T-Mobile LG g5 on Sprint and it wouldn't work I asked both sprint and T-Mobile they both told me it wouldn't work because the network's were different. I would love to get band 17 working on mine so I can use that band on cricket because they have a cheap truly unlimited plan but I don't think it's possible is the only band the T-Mobile LG g5 doesn't have that att uses but if you or someone figures out how to do it would love to know about it!
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band 17 is a "subset" of band 12. afaik.. the at&t g5 doesnt have B17 either.. just B12.
if you can get cricket month by month it might be worth testing it.. worst case you're out a months service price.
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band 17 is a "subset" of band 12. afaik.. the at&t g5 doesnt have B17 either.. just B12.
if you can get cricket month by month it might be worth testing it.. worst case you're out a months service price.
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Yeah I'm gonna try it because I know it will work for the most part I may just not have 100% of the coverage for cricket but my parents have 4 lines on cricket so they have 1 extra line they aren't using so for the truly unlimited plan it would only be $30 for a month because the 5th line gets a $40 discount so definitely worth trying out like you said and T-Mobile has already unlocked my phone but I had to pay for one more month so I won't switch til August 3rd.
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Hi,
So I've read the FCC documents located here: LINK
Page 1 and Page 5 are the most interesting! These state that the Verizon model SCH-i545 will have AWS band 4 (of course 13 too) which does support T-mobiles LTE network right? It never states 1700/1200 frequencies.
Thing I want to know from the pros is will this phone indeed offer LTE support for T-Mobile or and I'm just seeing things?
Also, for all the other people that are wondering if the ATT model will offer LTE support for T-Mobile as well? It will since it supports both bands 4 and 17 But wait is that AWS band 4?... the jury is out on that! -_-
Many Thanks
Becool0130 said:
Hi,
So I've read the FCC documents located here: LINK
Page 1 and Page 5 are the most interesting! These state that the Verizon model SCH-i545 will have AWS band 4 (of course 13 too) which does support T-mobiles LTE network right? It never states 1700/1200 frequencies.
Thing I want to know from the pros is will this phone indeed offer LTE support for T-Mobile or and I'm just seeing things?
Also, for all the other people that are wondering if the ATT model will offer LTE support for T-Mobile as well? It will since it supports both bands 4 and 17 But wait is that AWS band 4?... the jury is out on that! -_-
Many Thanks
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If I am correct, Verizon phones do not use sim cards (CDMA) and AT&T and T-Mobile are GMS (sim phones). So even if the bands are supported, I don't see how a Verizon phone would work on T-Mobile or AT&T unless they are CDMA / GSM dual phones. And even then they would have to be unlocked.
scott14719 said:
If I am correct, Verizon phones do not use sim cards (CDMA) and AT&T and T-Mobile are GMS (sim phones). So even if the bands are supported, I don't see how a Verizon phone would work on T-Mobile or AT&T unless they are CDMA / GSM dual phones. And even then they would have to be unlocked.
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All of the major Verizon releases over the past year have come GSM unlocked. They are world phones that contain GSM and CDMA radios. I'm using a Verizon iPhone 5 on the Straight Talk (AT&T) network currently.
All lte phones have sim cards as it is a gsm technology. My girls verizon gs3 has a sim. As far as it being compatible that is a hell of a question.
OneStepAhead said:
All of the major Verizon releases over the past year have come GSM unlocked. They are world phones that contain GSM and CDMA radios. I'm using a Verizon iPhone 5 on the Straight Talk (AT&T) network currently.
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Yes! I sold my iPhone 4s to get Samsung galaxy s4 and it sold to someone over in the UK world (Ireland) that says it works! Lol.
I've also seen threads about sim unlocking the Verizon S3 for domestic and international use. Some people use HiAPN as system app along with other steps and viola... Working on whatever network you want
Question is... Am I seeing right that Verizon S4 will support AWS Band 4 for t-mobile?
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good news
OneStepAhead said:
All of the major Verizon releases over the past year have come GSM unlocked. They are world phones that contain GSM and CDMA radios. I'm using a Verizon iPhone 5 on the Straight Talk (AT&T) network currently.
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Hey this is one question i have lingering on my mind. How is the StraightTalk connection? Is it any good? Are there call drop issues? And do they have data plans?
if i buy a tmobile s4 will it work on verizon??
I know most things are under the catagory of speculation/rumor but i was wanting to to check out tmobile network for a bit.... the no contract is appealing. If i bought the phone outright and ending up not liking tmobile i would switch to verizon. Short of selling the tmobile and getting a verizon phone i was wondering about just activating the same phone on verizon?
Will there be "one phone" in US or would they all have thier own modem chips i guess is the real question....
thanks for the guesses and speculat'n!
You have to consider its Verizon and they have 700Mhz LTE and you can't roam on AT&T's 700Mhz so I would not expect to access Verizons AWS spectrum on T-Mobile or vice versa. Remember when they said LTE was the unifying spectrum to allow for easier use across networks and carriers, well that was a pile of BS.
Great news, but I heard verizon was purposely going to burn in their logo onto the amoled screens.
RaptorMD said:
You have to consider its Verizon and they have 700Mhz LTE and you can't roam on AT&T's 700Mhz so I would not expect to access Verizons AWS spectrum on T-Mobile or vice versa.
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Wrong: those "700mhz" frequencies are different bands. Both T-Mobile and Verizon are building out LTE on the same band: 4 (AWS). They will be interoperable device-wise.
AT&T also owns a lot of AWS, and though they're currently running LTE on it only in one market (somewhere in Oklahoma IIRC), all their LTE devices do come with band 4 enabled.
The more I read about the differences, the more I'm convinced that the Verizon model is more cross compatible with all other services. It's still the only CDMA model. But it's also gsm unlocked if you know how to program APNs. Any thoughts?
jerzyboy2421 said:
The more I read about the differences, the more I'm convinced that the Verizon model is more cross compatible with all other services. It's still the only CDMA model. But it's also gsm unlocked if you know how to program APNs. Any thoughts?
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I posted a pretty detailed analyzation of the LTE bands the different GS4 models work with here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40974831#post40974831
if we ever get to the point where we don't need 3g at all any more (CDMA) and we can get VoLTE and use the LTE band exclusively that will eliminate a lot of the incompatability between Verizon and GSM carriers .
Parafly said:
if we ever get to the point where we don't need 3g at all any more (CDMA) and we can get VoLTE and use the LTE band exclusively that will eliminate a lot of the incompatability between Verizon and GSM carriers .
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When we get to that point, Verizon will basically be a GSM carrier. Considering LTE is just an evolution GSM, both developed by 3GPP.
camaroz28 said:
When we get to that point, Verizon will basically be a GSM carrier. Considering LTE is just an evolution GSM, both developed by 3GPP.
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When it gets to that point, the question is will LTE then become open so Google can sell a Nexus that works on every network without carriers involved?
Schoat333 said:
When it gets to that point, the question is will LTE then become open so Google can sell a Nexus that works on every network without carriers involved?
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Not just Google...all the manufacturers could do it. But...don't get your hopes up. That situation is not in the carriers' nor major manufacturers' interests, and they sit on the standards bodies. No one represents the users/customers.
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scott14719 said:
If I am correct, Verizon phones do not use sim cards (CDMA) and AT&T and T-Mobile are GMS (sim phones). So even if the bands are supported, I don't see how a Verizon phone would work on T-Mobile or AT&T unless they are CDMA / GSM dual phones. And even then they would have to be unlocked.
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Verizon does use sim cards I am in the process of trying to unlock
SCH-I545 On T-Mobile
i Have This phone running on T-Mobile and have notice it does pick up AWS but very limied when compared to a T-Mobile branded phone... im wondering if anyone has tested flashing the T-Mobile modem??
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No need to unlock just go into settings on the phone and under mobile networks their should be a tab that says prefered network.... click it and select global....
Ok, I'm buying a G3 thats for Verizon but for my T-Mobile service. I want to flash roms etc and I'm coming from a unlocked T-Mobile Note 2. Anything I should know before I buy it? Is it fine with T-Mobile?
T-Mobile runs on GSM network and Verizon runs on CDMA so the two won't work.
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I thought it was SIM unlocked and worked
digitallure said:
T-Mobile runs on GSM network and Verizon runs on CDMA so the two won't work.
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Don't give false information if you have no idea what you're talking about? If this information were true, how am I using a Verizon G3 on ATT with LTE?
The Verizon G3 is unlocked so it will work on either T-Mobile and ATT. It picks up LTE and HSPA+ on both networks. But LTE depends on what frequency is used in your area.
daniel4653 said:
Don't give false information if you have no idea what you're talking about? If this information were true, how am I using a Verizon G3 on ATT with LTE?
The Verizon G3 is unlocked so it will work on either T-Mobile and ATT. It picks up LTE and HSPA+ on both networks. But LTE depends on what frequency is used in your area.
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Alright, you got it
LTE on band4 works fine on the vs985 on both T-Mobile and Cricket pre-paid. H+ gsm works as a fallback, too. Verizon phones have had GSM radios since at least the Droid3, if they were "World Phones", like ALL current LTE models are. Verizon used to require a code be entered before GSM would work, and even then no USA GSM networks would work. But that's all in the past.
lowridincrew said:
Ok, I'm buying a G3 thats for Verizon but for my T-Mobile service. I want to flash roms etc and I'm coming from a unlocked T-Mobile Note 2. Anything I should know before I buy it? Is it fine with T-Mobile?
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every lollipop rom will pop up with a call forwarding hass been disabled bug that happens when dropping for lte to H or H+
it will work but the bug will annoy you all the time and i never was able to find away to disable it
4.4.4 roms work amazing tho so id say stick to those for now
digitallure said:
T-Mobile runs on GSM network and Verizon runs on CDMA so the two won't work.
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Actually it will work. I'm using mine on T-Mobile now. 4g lte is limited since verizon g3 only supports one band thats compatible with tmobile. But hspa+ or regular 4g works, spa or 3g works edge gprs all of those work.
Hey. Just got a Verizon LG G3 off my friend. I cracked the screen of my s4 and my girlfriend used my upgrade to get the iphone 6 so i couldn't upgrade myself. When i was using my galaxy s4 i had LTE speeds everywhere i go.
I googled the apn settings for At&t and put them into the G3 i have. It is working with HSPA+ But not LTE. I put my same sim card into my mom's at&t galaxy s5 and LTE pops back up. So LTE is clearly working in my area. But the g3 isn't picking it up, Am i doing something wrong? I've done research before i bought the phone and it people said Verizon LG G3 does support the LTE bands At&t uses. So am i doing something wrong???
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Hey. Just got a Verizon LG G3 off my friend. I cracked the screen of my s4 and my girlfriend used my upgrade to get the iphone 6 so i couldn't upgrade myself. When i was using my galaxy s4 i had LTE speeds everywhere i go.
I googled the apn settings for At&t and put them into the G3 i have. It is working with HSPA+ But not LTE. I put my same sim card into my mom's at&t galaxy s5 and LTE pops back up. So LTE is clearly working in my area. But the g3 isn't picking it up, Am i doing something wrong? I've done research before i bought the phone and it people said Verizon LG G3 does support the LTE bands At&t uses. So am i doing something wrong???
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Only supports ONE band that ATT uses. Which is band 4. Which is the backbone of ATT and Tmobiles LTE. So it should be able to connect to it. Do you live in a major city?
daniel4653 said:
Only supports ONE band that ATT uses. Which is band 4. Which is the backbone of ATT and Tmobiles LTE. So it should be able to connect to it. Do you live in a major city?
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Yea i live in Philadelphia. Like i said with my S4 i had LTE everywhere. And i put the same sim card in my mom's galaxy s5 and LTE popped right up in her phone.
Im thinking maybe my settings are wrong??
Phillyrider807 said:
Yea i live in Philadelphia. Like i said with my S4 i had LTE everywhere. And i put the same sim card in my mom's galaxy s5 and LTE popped right up in her phone.
Im thinking maybe my settings are wrong??
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Try toggling between global and gsm/umts/LTE
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Try toggling between global and gsm/umts/LTE
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Tried that too. Still getting hspa+. Downloaded the speedtest app and speed never goes over 1mbps. I pop my sim in my moms phone and gets over 18mbps. I don't get it.,
Hey buddy, have you try to unlock other bands? I'm not sure about band 4 (since I was not looking for band 4) but there are some bands that can be use. You may want to Follow this threat: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/unlocked-lte-bands-vs985-t2909150
It worked for me for band 3 and 7, I hope it work for you too
Just asking, the phone is on stock LG Android, right?
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csaborio said:
Hey buddy, have you try to unlock other bands? I'm not sure about band 4 (since I was not looking for band 4) but there are some bands that can be use. You may want to Follow this threat: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/unlocked-lte-bands-vs985-t2909150
It worked for me for band 3 and 7, I hope it work for you too
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ATT uses band 4 and 17. Band 4 is the only one supported. From what I have read 3 is more for Europe.
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ATT uses band 4 and 17. Band 4 is the only one supported. From what I have read 3 is more for Europe.
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Yeah I know, but I was trying to explain the reason about why I was not sure if band 4 was available to unlock.
I live in Costa Rica but I bought an Lg G3 Verizon phone from eBay that happens to work in here as well, the band 3 is the one my carrier uses, so I was only interested in unlock that one.
I took an screenshot of the available bands to unlock by following the link I posted.
P.S: sorry if it wasn't clear, English is not my native language ?
I have a Verizon LG G3 on Cricket Wireless (which is owned and operated by AT&T) and I get LTE on mine everywhere I go. The reason is because I have the 10b modem installed. ANY modem after 12b disables LTE on other networks except for Verizon. You need to totally restore your phone to stock (including 10b radio). There is a thread here on XDA somewhere that tells you step by step how to restore your G3 to stock and 10b radio.
Rooting and installing a custom recovery, then installing 10b modem will not work at this point. I tried that. It WOULD NOT let me use 10b radio until I completely returned to stock. Then of course I rooted and installed custom recovery.
I also have to use Cyanogenmod or another AOSP ROM because stock roms have the newer radios and disable my LTE.
Hope this helps!
There was a thread about this but it just kind of died without any answers. I know the complication with this is that Verizon is CDMA. I was talking with a friend that's a Verizon cell site tech, and he said that all the new sites and small cells are LTE bands 13,4,2 only... no CDMA. Of those 3 bands, the tmobile has 4 and 2. Some, I have read, are able to use their Verizon v10 on tmobile. So I'm wondering, with the fact that the new sites and small cells around me only uses LTE and not CDMA, am I able to use a tmobile v10 on Verizon? Has anyone tried it?
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There was a thread about this but it just kind of died without any answers. I know the complication with this is that Verizon is CDMA. I was talking with a friend that's a Verizon cell site tech, and he said that all the new sites and small cells are LTE bands 13,4,2 only... no CDMA. Of those 3 bands, the tmobile has 4 and 2. Some, I have read, are able to use their Verizon v10 on tmobile. So I'm wondering, with the fact that the new sites and small cells around me only uses LTE and not CDMA, am I able to use a tmobile v10 on Verizon? Has anyone tried it?
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I will soon be testing this. Bought a unlocked tmobile v10 off swappa...gonna try it with my Tmobile prepaid sim to see if I can actually use their service in my apartment....then will try my active VZW sim. According to spec pages i have read, should have the correct bands for LTE for vzw.
Sorta worked. The t-mobile V10 recognized the VZW number and sim. Calls worked (disable Wifi calling and volte). I had to add VZW APN settings, and it connected, and recognized Verizon network, but I could not get a internet connection. Not sure if i had the wrong apn settings or not.
how were you able to edit the apn settings? when i try i get an error, i've unlocked, rooted, deleted the telephony.db nothing seems to work.
I currently have a LG V20. Where I work is probably 3 miles from a Verizon tower. We have very weak signal out here, and sometimes I can't even get texts for a while.
Which of these 3 phones have the best cell reception?
Depends on the Verizon bands available in your area!
If Verizon have band 46/66 support in the area, V30/G7 will be better. Otherwise they are probably gonna be all the same.
micallen said:
Which of these 3 phones have the best cell reception for Verizon?
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suhridkhan said:
Depends on the Verizon bands available in your area!
If Verizon have band 46/66 support in the area, V30/G7 will be better. Otherwise they are probably gonna be all the same.
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Yes. OR if Verizon soon adds support for these bands where you live
And that's because the V20 can NOT receive those bands but V30/G7 can.
Like back when AT&T started adding LTE band 5 all over the country as a supplemental band, in addition to 2, 4, 17 (now called 12). You needed a newer phone or you never saw LTE band 5... Was used in areas of congestion.
Since this is the V30 forum, my vote is on the V30 of course.
ChazzMatt said:
Yes. OR if Verizon soon adds support for these bands where you live
And that's because the V20 can NOT receive those bands but V30/G7 can.
Like back when AT&T started adding LTE band 5 all over the country as a supplemental band, in addition to 2, 4, 17 (now called 12). You needed a newer phone or you never saw LTE band 5... Was used in areas of congestion.
Since this is the V30 forum, my vote is on the V30 of course.
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What's a good app to use to check for that?
micallen said:
What's a good app to use to check for that?
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LTE Discovery app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery&hl=en_US
If you keep it on while you drive, it will keep a record of all bands you lock onto.
You can also use it while standing still to see what band is near where you are, of course.
CDMA SHUTDOWN
Also be aware that in six months (December 31, 2019) Verizon is dropping 3G CDMA -- so all you will have is 4G LTE. To make phone calls you will need either LTE VoLTE or Wi-Fi calling.
ChazzMatt said:
Also be aware that in six months (December 31, 2019) Verizon is dropping 3G CDMA -- so all you will have is 4G LTE. To make phone calls you will need either LTE VoLTE or Wi-Fi calling.
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So that means no custom ROMs on LG devices for people who want to use Verizon :crying:
tech_infinity said:
So that means no custom ROMs on LG devices for people who want to use Verizon :crying:
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Somehow the ZTE Axon 7 (not even a Verizon device) has Verizon VoLTE on Lineage. (Or did a couple years ago. Have not checked recently.) It was a mystery the dev either could not explain or did not want to explain, at that time.
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