Hello fellow Asus Padfone S users, my name is Andy.
I have a question regarding Internal Storage. Using Asus File Manager, I open the Storage Analyzer at bottom.
There I noticed something fishy,there are 9 Gb of memory in Others Tab. When I click the detail, it is said that I'm using only 3 Gb of space. So,where is the other 6 Gb...?
OK,so then I check in Asus File Manager Internal Storage. Then I click the root (my phone isn't rooted) directory withou hiding the system files. There, I see 2 folder, sdcard and storage, which has the same amount as my internal storage.
The sdcard folder contains my internal storage data. But in the storage folder, it contains emulated and sdcard0 folder which the sdcard0 folder has the same data as the sdcard folder in root.
Then I open the emulated folder. In there, I found 2 folders, 0 and legacy folder. And it has the same amount of data as my sdcard folder in root.
So what is this folders means...? They duplicate my internal storage data and making my phone internal storage full. Can I delete the other folders...? Will it corrupt my phone...?
Any opinion on this is much appreciated.
Thank you before.
winged_potato said:
Hello fellow Asus Padfone S users, my name is Andy.
I have a question regarding Internal Storage. Using Asus File Manager, I open the Storage Analyzer at bottom.
There I noticed something fishy,there are 9 Gb of memory in Others Tab. When I click the detail, it is said that I'm using only 3 Gb of space. So,where is the other 6 Gb...?
OK,so then I check in Asus File Manager Internal Storage. Then I click the root (my phone isn't rooted) directory withou hiding the system files. There, I see 2 folder, sdcard and storage, which has the same amount as my internal storage.
The sdcard folder contains my internal storage data. But in the storage folder, it contains emulated and sdcard0 folder which the sdcard0 folder has the same data as the sdcard folder in root.
Then I open the emulated folder. In there, I found 2 folders, 0 and legacy folder. And it has the same amount of data as my sdcard folder in root.
So what is this folders means...? They duplicate my internal storage data and making my phone internal storage full. Can I delete the other folders...? Will it corrupt my phone...?
Any opinion on this is much appreciated.
Thank you before.
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Asus roms structure these folders differently than other phones. It differs from other devices.
They are basically the same, basically serves as symlinks to internal storage. (It does the same with my phone)
Your actual SD card should be under removeable/MicroSD if its inserted. No other paths unlike internal storage.
With the exception of the padfone s plus...
They do that so apps can save their data directly into internal storage, and the reason why there are many paths to the same is to maximize app saving compatibility.
Regarding to your issue with you running out of memory around 6gbs is taken out right away because the system uses it. You can use 10.77GB out of the 16GB available. After you first set up your device (Im sure its different with custom roms) Different reasons for that.
Its different with different devices and maybe different roms.
Anything other than that just for say around the system takes more, means there is something is wrong and a factory reset usually fixes that. Pretty confusing stuff I know but other manufacturers do the same thing, samsung got backlash when GS4 got released after users complained that the OS used up almost half of their internal storage.
Justatechie said:
Asus roms structure these folders differently than other phones. It differs from other devices.
They are basically the same, basically serves as symlinks to internal storage. (It does the same with my phone)
Your actual SD card should be under removeable/MicroSD if its inserted. No other paths unlike internal storage.
With the exception of the padfone s plus...
They do that so apps can save their data directly into internal storage, and the reason why there are many paths to the same is to maximize app saving compatibility.
Regarding to your issue with you running out of memory around 6gbs is taken out right away because the system uses it. You can use 10.77GB out of the 16GB available. After you first set up your device (Im sure its different with custom roms) Different reasons for that.
Its different with different devices and maybe different roms.
Anything other than that just for say around the system takes more, means there is something is wrong and a factory reset usually fixes that. Pretty confusing stuff I know but other manufacturers do the same thing, samsung got backlash when GS4 got released after users complained that the OS used up almost half of their internal storage.
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Thank you very much for your respon.
Yes,I do know that my SD Card is under Removable.
And yes,I know that 6Gb are taken out for the system. I can looked it in Setting/Storage section.
But what I meant is that the reduction is from the 10 Gb that I have.
What if i delete those copied folders...? Is that OK...?
I'll try to factory reset it and see if the issue occurs. It may take somewhile cause it's frustrating if you Factory Reset your daily devices.
Thank you for your respons...
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Tired of that small 5gb usb storage? Here is my hack to swap your external SD card with the USB storage!
This is usefull especially if you use GPS apps that download maps or games that download big data files! I got the idea and studied several hacks for the galaxy 1900 so partial credit goes to whoever made those hacks.
DISCLAIMER : I have only tested this on the 4.0 U.S version running 2.3.5 and am not responsible for a brick (although it seems impossible to brick your phone while messing with this file).
So basically start by going to /system/etc using root explorer or similar (yes, you need root). Once there backup the vold.fstab file to somewhere ON ROOT (I put it in /data/app/)! This is important so you can access it if you need to restore it (also make sure root explorer is installed on device memory, not SD card). Now take my modified vold.fstab and replace the original in /system/etc, then change the permissions to rw-r--r-- (long click the file, then select permissions) . If all goes right after you reboot your device, USB storage should now be your SD card and vise versa! Be aware any apps on your USB storage will now have to be transfered using a PC, move the .android_secure folder to your SD card. Hope it works!
EDIT: here is a modified version for the yp-g70, all credit goes to rjsmith2007 for making and testing this!
Won't Maps pull data from the Ext SD anyway? All my music is on ext SD and players have no problem finding it; I would think maps would be the same. It's really like a 5gb and 16 gb (in my case) partition (isn't it?).
I'm looking for a reason to root, SD card/space is not one of them. My battery only charging to 90% is though, need to recalibrate (since it's never hit 100%)
tcat007 said:
Won't Maps pull data from the Ext SD anyway? All my music is on ext SD and players have no problem finding it; I would think maps would be the same. It's really like a 5gb and 16 gb (in my case) partition (isn't it?).
I'm looking for a reason to root, SD card/space is not one of them. My battery only charging to 90% is though, need to recalibrate (since it's never hit 100%)
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I am referring to when you download maps with an app like sygic;
it saves it to the /sdcard/ directory instead of the /sdcard/external_ed/. Also gameloft games do the same and can use up your room pretty fast. I find this pretty useful myself, since I have a 32gb sd card, but just wanted to post it so if anyone does ever need it, it's here for them.
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DISCLAIMER : I have only tested this on the 4.0 U.S version running 2.3.5 and am not responsible for a brick (although it seems impossible to brick your phone while messing with this file).
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I just tried it with my Galaxy S Wifi 5.0. The mapping of the internal sd to the external_sd folder fails, but it works for mapping my external sd to the sdcard folder.
Edit: I took a look at the original and made a modification to yours to work with the YP-G70 model (the 5 inch one). Just copy the file from within the zip folder to your /system/etc folder.
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I just tried it with my Galaxy S Wifi 5.0. The mapping of the internal sd to the external_sd folder fails, but it works for mapping my external sd to the sdcard folder.
Edit: I took a look at the original and made a modification to yours to work with the YP-G70 model (the 5 inch one). Just copy the file from within the zip folder to your /system/etc folder.
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Thank you! I appreciate it! I post it on the original post and give you the credit.
Thanks man. I appreciate it. I was trying to do this myself before, but ended up having to format my SDcard and gave up. Thanks for the help!
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Thanks man. I appreciate it. I was trying to do this myself before, but ended up having to format my SDcard and gave up. Thanks for the help!
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glad I could help!
Can't I just copy all of the data from my internal sd card onto my computer, remove the internal sd card, copy those files onto a larger sd card and put the larger sd card back into the galaxy player? Im sorry if this Queston has been asked before, or if it sounds stupid, but I can't find the answer to this Queston anywhere! Thanks in advance!
(P.S) This post was made with a Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0! No joke!
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Can't I just copy all of the data from my internal sd card onto my computer, remove the internal sd card, copy those files onto a larger sd card and put the larger sd card back into the galaxy player? Im sorry if this Queston has been asked before, or if it sounds stupid, but I can't find the answer to this Queston anywhere! Thanks in advance!
(P.S) This post was made with a Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0! No joke!
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Hi,
There's still a bit of confusion with respect to terminology, I think (including myself).
I *think* that when the SGP5 displays "internal sd card", it's only part of the "internal 8GB memory". That "internal 8GB memory" is probably, I guess, something like an SDCARD or flash memory module that's soldered to the mainboard, and with Android, I think that it's split into a couple of areas.
Here's my "guess" of how things are arranged, using the terminology from Settings==>SD card and device storage:
"System storage": Part of the 8gb internal memory, e.g., includes /system, etc.
[1.65GB, in my SGP5]
"USB Storage" = "internal sd card" = /sdcard: The rest of the 8gb internal memory.
[5.01GB, in my SGP5]
"SD Card": The external microSD card, if you have one plugged in. Appears at /sdcard/external_sd.
[29.81GB, in my SGP5, where I have a 32GB microSD card plugged in.]
That System storage + USB Storage totals 1.65+5.01 GB, or 6.66GB. I guess the remainder of the 8GB is for bootloader, etc.?
Jim
Looks about right. Task Manger has them labeled like you list them, except there is a "Personal data" partition. It's 133mb on my 5.0. Maybe email and contacts?
I'm guess apps get installed on "System Storage", plenty of room there without having to move stuff to USB or Ext. I pretty much just use my ext card for media and pictures.
For some reason this caused issues with my Market connecting to the internet, any idea why? Anyone else experience issues with this modification?
Hmm, no no one has mentioned that problem, and I have been using this for months - no problem. Sorry if it did that, have you tried restoring the original? Also, an update to the instructions is to change the permissions to rw-r-r. I didn't notice anything wrong without changing the permissions, but you never know.
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Hi,
There's still a bit of confusion with respect to terminology, I think (including myself).
I *think* that when the SGP5 displays "internal sd card", it's only part of the "internal 8GB memory". That "internal 8GB memory" is probably, I guess, something like an SDCARD or flash memory module that's soldered to the mainboard, and with Android, I think that it's split into a couple of areas.
Here's my "guess" of how things are arranged, using the terminology from Settings==>SD card and device storage:
"System storage": Part of the 8gb internal memory, e.g., includes /system, etc.
[1.65GB, in my SGP5]
"USB Storage" = "internal sd card" = /sdcard: The rest of the 8gb internal memory.
[5.01GB, in my SGP5]
"SD Card": The external microSD card, if you have one plugged in. Appears at /sdcard/external_sd.
[29.81GB, in my SGP5, where I have a 32GB microSD card plugged in.]
That System storage + USB Storage totals 1.65+5.01 GB, or 6.66GB. I guess the remainder of the 8GB is for bootloader, etc.?
Jim
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Pretty close.
https://github.com/Entropy512/initramfs_yp-g70/blob/master/misc/recovery.fstab is the Player 5.0 partition table.
As you can see, nearly everything is on partitions of mmcblk0 - on the Player 5.0, this is eMMC (embedded MMC) storage. The total size of mmcblk0 is 8GB
The partitions here include (but are not limited to):
p10 - EFS - this contains device-specific config data, on phones that includes IMEI, on our device it's probably Bluetooth and WiFi MAC addresses
p11 - Kernel
p12 - Recovery (on some devices, recovery is a separate kernel partition - Samsungs have this partition set aside even though most of their devices don't actually use it. You can put anything you want on p12 and it won't do anything usually. For us, recovery is part of the kernel initramfs on p11)
p13 - /system - This is where the system firmware, often called the "ROM" sits. A number of people are trying to fight the "ROM" terminology, since it's not really true - flash isn't read-only, thus it isn't the "ROM" any more
p14 - In the linked file it's /datadata, but the device actually mounts it as /dbdata - various SQL databases for apps live here
p15 - /cache - a cache partition separate from data. Files stored here are intended to be safely wipable/deletable
p16 - /data - Various user data. Your apps live here unless you've moved them to SD. Most system settings are here too. ICS merges this partition with the internal SD so they are one and the same
p17 - /emmc in recovery and, if someone ever has the time to port it, CM7, /sdcard in Samsung factory firmwares. This is the "internal SD card".
There are a few other partitions that are not touched by recovery that exist, such as the LFS partition and the bootloader partitions. These are all small.
mmcblk1 is the external SD. Usually only one partition, which is /sdcard in recovery/CM7 and /sdcard/external_sd in Samsung factory firmwares
On the 4.0, I believe it uses Samsung's older NAND flash technology and not eMMC, so the partitions on internal storage appear as stlN/bmlN
i think i did something disaster...
i am using Samsung Galaxy W. I did follow your above instruction. The problem is after restarting my phone, I go to setting>storage and it shows total space and available space for SD card and USB storage is UNAVAILABLE. What is available is only Device Memorry which is 1.03GB.
Thinking that your vold.fstab is not compatible with my Samsung Galaxy W, I replace it with the original vold.fstab that I backed up earlier. However this does not solve the problem.
Then what I did is I tried to reset the phone to its original factory setting (Setting>Privacy>Factory Data Reset..),. Unfortunately the same problem still persist. And i think this is silly and catastrophic step since i loss my original vold.fstab which is stored in the internal memory.
Any of you can help me?
Many thanks to all of you
Well, did you change the permissions on your backup back to rw-r--r--? And yes, this mod should only be used for the device intended for. Are you sure that you replaced the modified vold.fstab with the original one? Did it give you an warning about overriding (it should have)? Are you sure you used your backup and not accidentally mine? What program did you use to copy?
Hmm stupid question, but how do you replace the existing file? I am using root explorer an it says it is read-only when I try to paste it in there.
Edit... Never mind... I didn't have it mounted correctly.
I have tried this multiple times, but every time I reboot it says "USB storage damaged, may need reformatting." So I press reformat, and it's done in like 1 sec and the problem still persists.
Any ideas?
Hmm, odd. I know you have the same version player as me, are you running 2.3.5 or 2.3.6, maybe that could affect it? Did you try before you did a lot of modifications to your device? What type of SD card you got, I use a 32gb class sandisk. I don't think that would matter, but you never know. I recall getting that error when I was working on the mod, but I got it fixed before I released it. Weird.
Oh yeah, what do you have your sd card formatted as? I use FAT32, not sure if that could affect it. May want to try reformatting the card on a PC, then try.
I have a 8gb kingston micro sd card, and I'm running 2.3.5. I had this problem a long time ago too when I was still on stock. Maybe it's my sd card. I will reformat it and try again, and if it doesn't work I will try a different sd card.
Here's another one:
When I go into Settings > Storage, my Jetstream shows I've got 10.77GB Available space under Internal Storage (out of 11.81GB). Under Tablet Storage, I've got 4.97GB Available (out of 16.12GB). As for the Internal Storage part, it has been like this, more or less, since I first bought the Jetstream 7 months ago.
My question is why do I get to use only 16GB out of the 32GB the Jetstream ships with? How do I get to use the Internal Storage for extra space? I had both the Tablet Storage (SD) and the External SD maxed out at one point, and needed to use that free 10GB. I ended up deleting a lot of stuff so that I could go on using it.
Anyone know how to access the unreachable 10GB under Internal Storage?
love the color coding...
its a bug. that's the state of things for now. maybe someday someone could take of it..
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Here's another one:
When I go into Settings > Storage, my Jetstream shows I've got 10.77GB Available space under Internal Storage (out of 11.81GB). Under Tablet Storage, I've got 4.97GB Available (out of 16.12GB). As for the Internal Storage part, it has been like this, more or less, since I first bought the Jetstream 7 months ago.
My question is why do I get to use only 16GB out of the 32GB the Jetstream ships with? How do I get to use the Internal Storage for extra space? I had both the Tablet Storage (SD) and the External SD maxed out at one point, and needed to use that free 10GB. I ended up deleting a lot of stuff so that I could go on using it.
Anyone know how to access the unreachable 10GB under Internal Storage?
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I used an app called partition table. As per that, the ~11GB of storage is assigned to the partition /data
So am trying to copy some stuff from my tablet storage (/sdcard) to the /data folder (under a new folder) using Root Explorer.
Shall report back with the details.
Edit: So I tried it - works. Can store the data in a folder within the /data partition. The available free space also changes. However, using apps like MX video player or ezpdf or anything else for that matter, I can not see the data I stored there - I need to go to root explorer and open the files from there. So I guess if you willing to live with this work around for now, may be worth it as we get ~10GB more additional storage. However, you will need to be extremely careful as to not delete anything besides your own data from the /data partition as it can cause quite some havoc if some essential files are deleted. And another important fact is that while wiping for installing a new rom/taking a nandroid-all that you place in the /data folder will also be wiped/backed up. So simpler solution till we get a dev to repartition the /data folder and allocate the additional free space (or part of it) to the /sdcard folder, it will be more sensible to just use a sdcard.
i've mentioned it to show_p1984.
he played with the device this week, and should probably start developing soon.
i'm guessing that if there's a work around - he could create a permanent solution.
guru_shastri said:
i've mentioned it to show_p1984.
he played with the device this week, and should probably start developing soon.
i'm guessing that if there's a work around - he could create a permanent solution.
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Basically the partition table needs reformatting - I know it is done and can be done. Have seen it done for the Samsung Galaxy S, ZTE Balde and also for Samsung Galaxy Ace. I do not however know how to do it - I think while making the rom, changes will have to be integrated because formatting the partitions is part of the process of rom flashing.
Also, there may a temporary easier workaround. There are apps like link2sd which basically make the android system think that a partition on your sd card is the system's /data partition. So we need the reverse. We will need a script which will create a folder in the /sdcard partition which will be linked to the /data partition of the system (or a folder in there). So if we add in some data/files into that particular folder, then it will automatically be referring to the /data partition. It will be like making a folder (say "STUFF") which has its location as "/data/STUFF" and having a shortcut to that folder in the partition /sdcard. We can try to create shortcuts and stuff but it will not be functional because it will be a shortcut. By linking it, we would be able to fool the 3rd party apps into thinking the data is on the sdcard while in reality it is stored on the /data partition, This is basiclally hypothetical logic based on what I found and my experience with link2sd. How far it is true/practical and going to work, I have no idea - so we will have to leave it up the devs.
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Notontherugman said:
Here's another one:
When I go into Settings > Storage, my Jetstream shows I've got 10.77GB Available space under Internal Storage (out of 11.81GB). Under Tablet Storage, I've got 4.97GB Available (out of 16.12GB). As for the Internal Storage part, it has been like this, more or less, since I first bought the Jetstream 7 months ago.
My question is why do I get to use only 16GB out of the 32GB the Jetstream ships with? How do I get to use the Internal Storage for extra space? I had both the Tablet Storage (SD) and the External SD maxed out at one point, and needed to use that free 10GB. I ended up deleting a lot of stuff so that I could go on using it.
Anyone know how to access the unreachable 10GB under Internal Storage?
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And I think it will be more sensible to allowed to use a maximum of around 6-7 GB of the 12GB partition so that we will still have ample storage space of apps and stuff.
For all its cons, I still love this tablet.... :S
(and have yet to find a tablet with a better lens/camera)
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For all its cons, I still love this tablet.... :S
(and have yet to find a tablet with a better lens/camera)
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Agreed.
I'm sure this has been brought up - I just can't find it, so sorry if it's a repeat...
I've loaded the NT with the cherry pick 20130131 4.2 ROM, doing very well, loving it. Now one thing I noticed is that when starting some apps, they wouldn't start because "No SD card was installed"...weird...the app that did this to me was MX player, so I'm going to assume that it couldn't find the internal storage block to use. Just to get it to work, I shoved a 2GB SD card in it (blank one) - all was well after that, but questions remain...
>> I could have sworn I've seen posts where this type of storage configuration or mishap, whichever, was by design, or a known bug. Can anyone speak to that?
>> While cruising around in root explorer, what I found is that the /data folder seems to be where all my internal storage is - and you're saying DUH, but my point being if I go to the /storage folder, I see sdcard0 and sdcard1 - what I would expect here is that sdcard0 represents my 16GB internal storage, and sdcard1 represents my 2GB card...but it's not turning out that way... Here's what I see:
/storage/sdcard0 = the 2GB card I put in and it doesn't contain anything on it...
/storage/sdcard1 = 1GB of space with "android" material on it, which has things I'd normally associate with internal storage - movies folder, music, TWRP backups, an android folder, etc, so it's as if internal storage is not being fully used - not sure what this extra 1GB of storage is that it's using, but it's nowhere near big enough....
Sooo...I'm not even sure what to ask, but I'll try it like this, how do I make this /storage/sdcard1 area part of the full internal storage area instead of being restricted to 1GB in size, or is that something I even want to mess with?
Thanks in advance.
I'm using the fix in the first post of this topic for the kids' Tablet. I haven't had any problems like what the OP reports. I only edited the build prop and didn't touch anything else.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068595
Edit: For clarification I've copied the part I used:
After more digging, I've found that the proper way to swap the storage locations was to add a line to /system/build.prop, with the persist.sys.vold.switchexternal parameter set to 1. That indeed worked and swapped the storage locations, but created some issues. Whenever I open some apps (like gallery), the process android.process.media crashes. Sometimes it even crashes alone.
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I tried a manual update to the vold file from the last post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37552173
But it seems I've just flipflopped my problem...
SDCARD0 now points to the 1GB area, and SDCARD1 now points to the 2GB removable card, neither pointing to the bulk area where the /data folder is pointing,
I'm sure I'm very close, just not quite there yet... I'm running the v4.2 rom, so perhaps there's a difference...
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using Tapatalk 2
If you haven't repartitioned your Tablet 1GB is all you get for user storage.
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If you haven't repartitioned your Tablet 1GB is all you get for user storage.
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Is that because of the way the Nook was partitioned before with stock?
No ROMs have addressed this to your knowledge? I've read about a "flashable" fix, but didn't get to read how successful it was LOL
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There is a topic describing how you can repartition yourself using ADB. There is also an option to use the repart.img that you'll find if you Google. It repartitions the same way they do if you take it to a BN store. I used that on one of mine and it worked beautifully. It gives 8 GB user storage and 5 GB for apps.
Hi, I'm a total noob to Android phones, I admit it. I just got my first smartphone, and it's an old one - an HTC Aria. Thanks to a lot of info here in XDA-developers, I got it rooted with clockwork mod and am using the Cyanogen ROM with Android 2.3 (Gingerbread).
Well, it's such an old phone, I see that it only has ~185 mb internal storage. I added an 8GB SD card. Even though I move my apps to external storage, I can see that the data didn't get moved and is still quickly eating up all the phone's internal storage. I'm trying to use Madmack's "FolderMount" but am having trouble figuring it out. I think it might be an understanding of Android file/folder structure (I have very little). I'm considering buying the "pro" version (if it works for me), just so I can move the whole data folder at once and free up my internal memory again.
Here's my efforts at testing to see if it works. I'm trying to move the data from the "Plague, Inc." game to the external card (the app is already on the external card). So, when I choose source, it automatically starts me in the /mnt/sdcard/ but doesn't allow me to go "up" to any further root folders of that. So I found in the "Android" folder the "data" folder. I tried to FolderMount that but it gave me the error about the non-Pro version. So I tried the "com.miniclip.plagueinc" folder (knowing that it's currently using 15MB of data) and then using an app called SDCardManager (which I understand is supposed to make it easier for me to access my SD Card, like Windows Explorer or something), I made a folder with this path "/mnt/sdcard/foldermount" I think it should be the right path because it's also where my "android.tether" folder is that I know I created myself.
Anyway, when I pair those two folders in FolderMount, it copies stuff over, and the pin looks green, but it shows my internal memory hasn't changed, still almost entirely full. So what do I do to clear it up? I think my problem is in my understanding of the Android's file structure. I think on "source", I should be able to access some folder before "/mnt/sdcard", but I can't get there. Please give this noob help from anyone who can! Thanks!
Can anyone help me with this? Particularly the developer, madmack? I really need to find a way to move the app data to the external memory so I can clear up space. Even if someone could help me understand the file structure better, that'd be helpful. Thanks!
So I put Carbon on my wife's tablet after not touching it for over a year. Amazing that I can come here and get exactly what I need. What a great community!
I do have a question. I have a 16gb model and a 16gb card. I can see and use the card, no problem.
Using astro or other file manager, the directories seem weird. That's not a problem. The problem is, I can only use 1gb of internal storage - is there a way to get at the balance of that? Or is it lost forever?
Sounds like your NT has the BN's old 1GB allocation for the user-media partition instead of the new 8GB.
To get a 8GB allocation, you can restore the NT to stock ROM and take it to a B&N store to have the repartition done; or you can (Google) search for a repart.img SD-based tool which also does the repartition (and in the process restore the NT to stock ROM). Either way, you can use CWM recovery to back up your current Carbon ROM before the operation and then restore it afterward.
Ah, I completely forgot about this little point. Thank you for the reminder and the options!
One more question from me about this, does it make sense in CM to have two internal storages anyway? Couldn't I just reformat it to have only one partition?
I know how to use parted, so this isn't why I am asking. I just wanted to ask here about potential other side effects.
I already reformatted that my internal memory is about 4GB and my sdcard0 storage is 10GB, but now I installed a huge app in internal memory which can't be moved to SD for some reason, and I want to at least reformat it the other way around or the default 12GB sdcard0 + 1GB internal
All apps are installed in the first internal memory anyway I have figured, so I don't know why this first sdcard0 does make sense at all? I first thought that would be used for apps, but currently there are 10 unused Gigabytes....
I am using a real sdcard in the device ( which is per default mounted as sdcard1 ), maybe that is the reason nothing is put on the internal sdcard0 ??
Any comments on this?
I'd also like to know if this can be done. I've read the posts that explain how to resize partition 10 (media) and 11 (user data), but I would like to know if it is possible to combine partition 10 and 11 into a single partition so that all available space that isn't used by the system can be used for apps and other data. Is this not possible because of different file systems or is there a way to do it?
I've also noticed that even though the Nook Tablet 16 GB physically has 1 GB RAM only 672 MB is recognized and the other 332 MB or so seems to be used as some type of virtual SD Card (this can be seen in Settings -> Apps -> On SD Card). Is there a way to make the entire 1 GB recognized and utilized? I have not been able to find any information on this anywhere.
I am running CM 10.1 on Nook Tablet 16 GB.
bluesock said:
One more question from me about this, does it make sense in CM to have two internal storages anyway? Couldn't I just reformat it to have only one partition?
I know how to use parted, so this isn't why I am asking. I just wanted to ask here about potential other side effects.
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Combining the two partitions without tweaking the ROM will likely result in errors when the system at boot time attempts to mount the partition you eliminate, and when some apps reference the file-system that supposedly resides on that eliminated partition. To avoid these errors, the eliminated partition would have be removed from boot-time auto-mount list, and its file-system root would have to be mapped (e.g., symbolically linked) to the mount point of the remaining partition.
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I've also noticed that even though the Nook Tablet 16 GB physically has 1 GB RAM only 672 MB is recognized and the other 332 MB or so seems to be used as some type of virtual SD Card (this can be seen in Settings -> Apps -> On SD Card). Is there a way to make the entire 1 GB recognized and utilized? I have not been able to find any information on this anywhere.
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The 'missing' RAM is what the OS needs to keep the device going. 672 MB RAM free sounds very reasonable. What you see in the list as apps on sd card is the virtual sd card in storage, not RAM.
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The "missing" RAM is actually shared memory for the GPU (the SGX540). Video cards need RAM to load textures and whatnot.
You might have noticed that desktops without a dedicated GPU have much lower system RAM than advertised. Ex: my laptop with 3GB of system RAM actually shows something like 2970MB RAM (instead of 3096MB). The 100 odd MB of RAM is shared by the GPU (Intel GMA). If I had a dedicated GPU in my laptop, something like the GTX M GPUs with its own RAM, I would see and be able to use the full 3096MB of system RAM. It's the same thing with mobile devices, they share system RAM with the GPU.
That makes sense about the shared resources for the system and graphics. Thank you for the explanation!
Okay, if that is all, probably changing /system/etc/vold.fstab after repartitioning/removing the emmc-sdcard-partition and symlinking the other of the partitions should do it already? Or how does the storage settings things finds the storage memories? Or is there even something a bit more deeply buried, e.g. inside the kernels initrd or something like that? Does someone know those details?
@skelnik as written in the other thread something more here ...
It probably isn't completely beginner friendly to do all this just by this information here, but I might attempt to do this too, and then will share the information as step-wise as possible. But might take some weeks until I have a bit time left...
And be aware! There probably will be some downsides when not using a physical/external sdcard at all: You will not have the internal storage accessible as a usb storage device anymore (not sure about mtp or ptp mode, but these don't access everything anyway) - so if you screw up something it might become harder to recover. You should then probably have at least some 2gb sdcard you can use, just in case. But my opinion is that you should just pay those $5 for a physical sdcard (should even give you 4 or 8GB already...) and then there won't be these problems.
Use Ineternal Storage as sdcard on Nook Tablet
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@skelnik And be aware! There probably will be some downsides when not using a physical/external sdcard at all: You will not have the internal storage accessible as a usb storage device anymore (not sure about mtp or ptp mode, but these don't access everything anyway)
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Actually you will still have access from the PC (Windows OS at least) to this partition after using the internal storage as an sdcard. You need to go into the USB Connection Settings under Storage and change it to "USB Mass Storage" mode. Also USB Debugging needs to be unchecked in order for you to get prompted to enable USB Connection to PC. After that you will be able to transfer data to and from your PC to the internal partition being used like an sdcard on your Nook Tablet. That partition is set to 10GB for me so that is a huge benefit and allows me to swap out multiple external sdcards any time without disabling any apps.
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Actually you will still have access from the PC (Windows OS at least) to this partition after using the internal storage as an sdcard. You need to go into the USB Connection Settings under Storage and change it to "USB Mass Storage" mode. Also USB Debugging needs to be unchecked in order for you to get prompted to enable USB Connection to PC. After that you will be able to transfer data to and from your PC to the internal partition being used like an sdcard on your Nook Tablet. That partition is set to 10GB for me so that is a huge benefit and allows me to swap out multiple external sdcards any time without disabling any apps.
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Are you sure you mean the same thing as me? I am talking about removing one of the partitions and just making one large partition where both /data and a link from /sdcard into that will be. As far as I understood, Android does not do a virtualization of a path but really makes one of it's partitions accessible as usb storage? Or can you also format in ext4 and still read it in Windows?
If that works I am probably not right, otherwise read on:
All your configuration data and everything is on /data and would be removed from being accessible by the system as long as it is connected as usb storage (also all installed apps, ...), and besides that you would need to use the FAT filesystem for Windows compatibility, which is also probably not the best idea, security-wise (any app being able to read sdcard would for example be able to read your wifi configuration, maybe google account login data, etc. etc.).