I'm on the verizon network, and I have the N6P. My question is, what phones on the verizon network are truely rootable? Unlocked bootloader and all. I had the note 3, which is rootable, but you could not unlock the bl,and you could only run aosp roms. That didn't work for me. I'm just wondering, so when I change phones I know which phone to get. Thanks
I believe if I'm not mistaken, that most Verizon androids are locked on the bootloader. That doesn't mean that root isn't impossible, it just means that exploits would need to be used to create a root.
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I believe if I'm not mistaken, that most Verizon androids are locked on the bootloader. That doesn't mean that root isn't impossible, it just means that exploits would need to be used to create a root.
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Noobie here: haven't been on android since 2012. Can't you ask the carrier to unlock the phone or is that a different thing?
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Noobie here: haven't been on android since 2012. Can't you ask the carrier to unlock the phone or is that a different thing?
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It really depends on which phone you have, I'm almost 99% sure that the bootloaders for the Nexus 6p's can be unlocked without the carriers permission. Google is really great about that, but on the other hand the Verizon S5 has a locked bootloader.
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It really depends on which phone you have, I'm almost 99% sure that the bootloaders for the Nexus 6p's can be unlocked without the carriers permission. Google is really great about that, but on the other hand the Verizon S5 has a locked bootloader.
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I'm on Sprint
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I thought Motorola said back in June that they were suppose to provide a method to unlock bootloaders in Q3. I am still waiting for it so I can officially unlock it so I can still maintain my 4G connection.
This sucks because HTC already has a method to officially unlock bootloaders for certain phones with the list growing. Anyone know any news on this?
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I thought Motorola said back in June that they were suppose to provide a method to unlock bootloaders in Q3. I am still waiting for it so I can officially unlock it so I can still maintain my 4G connection.
This sucks because HTC already has a method to officially unlock bootloaders for certain phones with the list growing. Anyone know any news on this?
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As of now nobody knows
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I hope soon... if not, I believe Yay 4 Juggs knows how to fix it.
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I thought Motorola said back in June that they were suppose to provide a method to unlock bootloaders in Q3. I am still waiting for it so I can officially unlock it so I can still maintain my 4G connection.
This sucks because HTC already has a method to officially unlock bootloaders for certain phones with the list growing. Anyone know any news on this?
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The HTC method forces you to identify and void your warranty
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The HTC method forces you to identify and void your warranty
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As it should be, if there is a possibility for wrecking your device by choice, HTC needs to know who is doing it so they don't have to pay for it - now that being said They should still want to help the person out if it is broken - especially if you can tell the brick or issue was not because of 3rd party software. I have heard HTC has been good about still replacing devices that are registered as unlocked.
Yeah, HTC kind of bastardized "unlocking the bootloader."
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As it should be, if there is a possibility for wrecking your device by choice, HTC needs to know who is doing it so they don't have to pay for it - now that being said They should still want to help the person out if it is broken - especially if you can tell the brick or issue was not because of 3rd party software. I have heard HTC has been good about still replacing devices that are registered as unlocked.
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you mean like this? http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2011/05/26/htc-thunderbolt-gingerbread-bricking-problem-froyo-revert/
or how about samsungs intercept bricks going to 2.2?
oems arent perfect
What exactly are the differences between unlocking the boot loader and rooting the phone? I've already rooted, but what exactly does unlocking the boot loader do?
Unlocking allows you to flash custom kernels and custom rom's. That's a pretty general statement seeing as I am new to the android scene, I'm sure someone else will elaborate.
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What exactly are the differences between unlocking the boot loader and rooting the phone? I've already rooted, but what exactly does unlocking the boot loader do?
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Unlocking the bootloader allows you to rewrite partitions on the device with out checking for security keys.
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motorola bad after I was almost in ruins can not do a good deed for their users unlock the bootloader or at least the new models
daniel129001 said:
motorola bad after I was almost in ruins can not do a good deed for their users unlock the bootloader or at least the new models
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A period, coma, something. Would really be of some use here.
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A period, coma, something. Would really be of some use here.
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You'll love this! http://immigrate2us.net/forum/showthread.php?50024-Why-Punctuation-Matters
Lolol. Wow.
My favorite is:
http://cheezburger.com/View/3757654016
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As it should be, if there is a possibility for wrecking your device by choice, HTC needs to know who is doing it so they don't have to pay for it - now that being said They should still want to help the person out if it is broken - especially if you can tell the brick or issue was not because of 3rd party software. I have heard HTC has been good about still replacing devices that are registered as unlocked.
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100% true and coming from two other unlocked and rooted HTC phones, I can say (from personal experience) that they have awesome customer care.
I was actually sad that when I switched to Sprint there wasnt a decent HTC phone to choose other than the Nexus S - which was already becoming dated. Took a gamble with this motorola phone, so time will tell. So far, so good.
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100% true and coming from two other unlocked and rooted HTC phones, I can say (from personal experience) that they have awesome customer care.
I was actually sad that when I switched to Sprint there wasnt a decent HTC phone to choose other than the Nexus S - which was already becoming dated. Took a gamble with this motorola phone, so time will tell. So far, so good.
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Nexus s is samsung
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Moto will never release an unlocked bootloader. First the Vendors would have to approve that, second. vendors and OM's would not be able to support devices. HTC is taking it on the chin right now for releasing unlocked bootloaders without Vendor approval.
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Moto will never release an unlocked bootloader. First the Vendors would have to approve that, second. vendors and OM's would not be able to support devices. HTC is taking it on the chin right now for releasing unlocked bootloaders without Vendor approval.
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They did unlock the atrix...
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They did unlock the atrix...
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Photon will be next
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According to Paul O'brien (who from what I understand is a pretty solid source) AT&T has locked down the One's bootloader, like it did with the One X. Apparently that turned out to be a huge mess. Was totally planning on getting this, now I'm strongly reconsidering...
Here's the post: https://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/321568521521881088.
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According to Paul O'brien (who from what I understand is a pretty solid source) AT&T has locked down the One's bootloader, like it did with the One X. Apparently that turned out to be a huge mess. Was totally planning on getting this, now I'm strongly reconsidering...
Here's the post: https://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/321568521521881088.
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lololol, not this **** again.
This is why I got the Dev edition
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Not surprised by this at all its att it sucks i wish i could have bought the development edition but I have faith the people here will crack it
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According to Paul O'brien (who from what I understand is a pretty solid source) AT&T has locked down the One's bootloader, like it did with the One X. Apparently that turned out to be a huge mess.
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I've been on the One X forums from just about the start, and I'm not sure I would call it a "huge mess". A bootloader unlock method was discovered and posted by an XDA dev a little over 2 weeks after the device was released.
What turned out to be a bit more of a mess, is that root was needed to get the bootloader unlock, and HTC kept patching the existing root exploit with every firmware update.
This is indeed disappointing. But I won't believe it 100% until the phone is actually released, and people try to unlock the bootloader. Even then, the phone will be a popular one, and I have faith that the devs here will crack it.
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This is why I got the Dev edition
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To the OP.. Where have you been lately? this isn't no surprise to anyone that the phone has a lock bootloader
And to all of you buying the dev edition, whats the point of a unlock bootloader if you don't have s-off?
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To the OP.. Where have you been lately? this isn't no surprise to anyone that the phone has a lock bootloader
And to all of you buying the dev edition, whats the point of a unlock bootloader if you don't have s-off?
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Really though, the amount of modders who need SOFF to do what they want is like less than 5% of the mod community. Root typically handles most issues. Unlocked bootloader is just that barrier above root.
Though, I'm kind of mad that HTC isn't sticking it to ATT on this and telling them to bugger off. Tmobiles is unlocked...
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I've been on the One X forums from just about the start, and I'm not sure I would call it a "huge mess". A bootloader unlock method was discovered and posted by an XDA dev a little over 2 weeks after the device was released.
What turned out to be a bit more of a mess, is that root was needed to get the bootloader unlock, and HTC kept patching the existing root exploit with every firmware update.
This is indeed disappointing. But I won't believe it 100% until the phone is actually released, and people try to unlock the bootloader. Even then, the phone will be a popular one, and I have faith that the devs here will crack it.
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If I read correctly, someone stated that the cid partition was write protected on the one
So since supercid was how we unlocked the boot loader it may be a bit more difficult on the one
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If I read correctly, someone stated that the cid partition was write protected on the one
So since supercid was how we unlocked the boot loader it may be a bit more difficult on the one
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I don't know much about the typical bootloader unlocking methods, but saw this recent article about unlocking newer Qualcomm-based Motorola phones. Not that this method will work on the AT&T One, but hopefully a similar method can be found if none of the current tricks work.
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If I read correctly, someone stated that the cid partition was write protected on the one
So since supercid was how we unlocked the boot loader it may be a bit more difficult on the one
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My comment had to do more with informing the previous poster what actually happened on the One X (that he seemed to mostly only know about 2nd hand), rather than speculating on what HTC has done on this upcoming phone. As we know, HTC is a tricky bugger, and I won't even begin to try to guess what security enhancements they have up their sleeve this time around!
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whats the point of a unlock bootloader if you don't have s-off?
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You can root, install custom recovery, and flash custom ROMs with an unlocked bootloader.
S-off allows some other things, such as modding hboot, and flashing radios. But its not needed for flashing custom ROMs.
you can already unlock the bootloader+root etc..
http://www.andromods.com/root-unloc...-all-versions-attt-mobile-sprint-verizon.html
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you can already unlock the bootloader+root etc..
http://www.andromods.com/root-unloc...-all-versions-attt-mobile-sprint-verizon.html
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That's a how to, if unlocking isn't blocked by the carrier
Which it probably is on the at&t variant
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That's a how to, if unlocking isn't blocked by the carrier
Which it probably is on the at&t variant
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Aha! gotcha, Well. I tried to order the Dev edition but it got out of stock.. so i have no choice but to get one from ATT and hope for the best : D
Yeah you can flash roms etc..
But who wants to manually flash the kernel every time you want to update a rom?
I would like to just put my rom on my phone and flash it. Simple as that
Regardless this is XDA and i trust the devs here will do something to get AT&T users rooted.
mine will be going back so fast if its not unlockable
Sprint and tmobile versions are unlockable
There is no surprise about ATT locking the boot loader. Why do you think HTC is selling a developer edition that is using ATT bands. They solved it because there are a few of us who root our phones etc. Most people who buy phones don't do any of this XDA stuff
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I see it this way, with the $100 rebate and the HDMI device I am getting from HTC and ATT the one will be pretty much free. I am switching from Sprint which I had originally switched to with hopes of buying the Nexus 4. Since they stopped doing Nexus on CDMA this is my move back. The One will turn into a backup phone and the next Nexus will become my main. If a Nexus doesn't come out in the next 4 months I'll just buy a Nexus 4 for now. I'll just never do OTAs on the One until a root is found or just sell the thing when I get a Nexus.
Btw, who is this Steven Bell guy? Does he have an HTC One from ATT that he tried to unlock?
Im glad i got the dev edition. I canceled ATT pre order day after i ordered. My Dev edition says backorder now but says shipment scheduled Tomorrow the 10th.
Either some lazy people here.. Or trolls.. It only takes an additional few seconds to flash a kernel if you need it. Those few seconds certainly wouldn't keep me from owning this device. This phone looks like it'll have a lot of Dev presence. S-off might not be far off. :victory:
I dont know who Steve bell is (guy paul obrien quoted) And how he would know The ATT is locked since its not out yet. I guess he's credible somewhat if Paul is repeating it.
Hmmm....im really starting to second guess this phone....im confused why att locks down HTC phones but not other android phones like Samsung? Sorry really new to HTC phones....
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After all this me7 crap I'm wondering if the developer edition is unlocked? Boot loader I mean. I guess I'm just wondering what's so special about it?
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After all this me7 crap I'm wondering if the developer edition is unlocked? Boot loader I mean.
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I guess I'm just wondering what's so special about it?
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I bought the DEV version because I was in the market for a new S4, and I wanted to keep my unlimited data. Furthermore I didn't want to risk buying the consumer edition from Verizon, because I didn't want to receive a device with ME7 firmware. The cost of the DEV version was the same as the consumer version, except it's unlocked. So it's a no-brainer for me.
I guess I was just plain stupid. I came from the galaxy s3 and I just assumed that all phones were as easy. I won't make that mistake twice! I don't have much faith in the bootloader getting exploited so I think I will buy the DEV and sell the other on Ebay.
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I guess I was just plain stupid.
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I guess I was just plain stupid. I came from the galaxy s3 and I just assumed that all phones were as easy. I won't make that mistake twice! I don't have much faith in the bootloader getting exploited so I think I will buy the DEV and sell the other on Ebay.
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The thing people often forget is an insecure boot loader was leaked. The stock firmware released boot loader was never cracked for the S3. This same method worked on the Note 2.
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The thing people often forget is an insecure boot loader was leaked. The stock firmware released boot loader was never cracked for the S3. This same method worked on the Note 2.
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So who leaks this kind of information? And are these blocks done by carrier or manufacturer? Are all phones and carriers like this?
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Seems like the s4 forum is plagued with bootloader talk :-/ nobody cared about it when we had loki
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So I did a little searching before posting so don't ream me please ??
1) Does the dev edition s4 also have a locked bootloader? That would be f'in whack.. If it us unlocked and my second q doesn't pan I may try and swoop one up. ..
2) I have a friend with a tmobile s4 that he cracked the digitizer and just reported it lost... If I took his board could I unlock it to big red? If so what would be the consequences?
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So I did a little searching before posting so don't ream me please ??
1) Does the dev edition s4 also have a locked bootloader? That would be f'in whack.. If it us unlocked and my second q doesn't pan I may try and swoop one up. ..
2) I have a friend with a tmobile s4 that he cracked the digitizer and just reported it lost... If I took his board could I unlock it to big red? If so what would be the consequences?
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The Dev Edition S4 normally does not have a locked bootloader. I say normally because some users took an Over The Air update which did lock the bootloader. So it depends on whether the bootloader is a stock MDK bootloader or if the user took a subsequent OTA update which in turn locked / changed the bootloader. Also, there is no factor image for the Dev Edition, so if it is locked it is going to stay locked for the foreseeable future. As for your second question, I'm not sure that will work. I think the firmware differences between TMO and Verizon plus the difference between GSM and CDMA will not be easy to overcome. But I don't know that for sure.
I'm not trying to be a know it all trust me lol but the dev s4 never got otas I don't believe. The users who locked then up did so by using Odin and retail firmware.
Just throwing that out there.
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I'm not trying to be a know it all trust me lol but the dev s4 never got otas I don't believe. The users who locked then up did so by using Odin and retail firmware.
Just throwing that out there.
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I don't take that as you being a know it all, you're probably right. I just know some Dev owners did something to lock their bootloaders I just assumed (wrongfully) that it was an OTA of some sorts. Sorry for the misinformation.
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I'm not trying to be a know it all trust me lol but the dev s4 never got otas I don't believe.
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I know one user who received his DevEd about the same time as me. He received an OTA that locked his bootloader. I have never received an OTA, and I'm still running stock (more or less) DevEd.
It's funny how I bought the DevEd, because I wanted a guarantee that I could ROM the device. But I fell in love with the stock OS, and don't care if I ever have KitKat.
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I know one user who received his DevEd about the same time as me. He received an OTA that locked his bootloader. I have never received an OTA, and I'm still running stock (more or less) DevEd.
It's funny how I bought the DevEd, because I wanted a guarantee that I could ROM the device. But I fell in love with the stock OS, and don't care if I ever have KitKat.
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No kidding? I didn't know any of them got OTAs. At least you have the option to flash whatever you want if you did get bored with stock.
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First day with my edge plus and I'm wondering if there is a root method and any roms worth flashing. Thanks.
Nope. Won't be for a very long time
Doubt there will be one but I am a rootaholic and since I got this phone I haven't felt the need to want to root. Does everything I need well.
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Why is that? why are you guys saying there wont be root nor roms for a long time? not a popular phone? or is it too new in the market? did I choose the wrong phone if I wanted mods?
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Why is that? why are you guys saying there wont be root nor roms for a long time? not a popular phone? or is it too new in the market? did I choose the wrong phone if I wanted mods?
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You're completely off. You chose the wrong carrier to buy phones from in general
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You're completely off. You chose the wrong carrier to buy phones from in general
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I've been with Verizon for ten years, 5 different phones and never had any issues getting plenty of roms and kernels for any of my phones, ever.
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I've been with Verizon for ten years, 5 different phones and never had any issues getting plenty of roms and kernels for any of my phones, ever.
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No issues I bet. But probably a difficult process to get there. T-Mobile seems the best for modification, but anyhow, the s6 edge plus just has a hard lockdown because of Verizon making modification difficult, I looked at the T-Mobile variant forumns and they have a custom kernel and a few stock based modified roms
Hopefully is just a matter of time then. Thanks for the info. In the meantime I downloaded Package Disabler Pro and disabled a bunch of bloatware.
Well if you don't care about texting and talking, the tmobile variants do work with Verizon 4g. I've tested and it connects just fine.
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Nothing yet, but it looks like they're getting closer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv0I45HtgtQ
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Nothing yet, but it looks like they're getting closer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv0I45HtgtQ
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how does a rooted g920f aosp rom have to do with a s6e+ on verizon?
those devices have unlocked BLs so they have way more options
I didn't know that. Sorry.
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I didn't know that. Sorry.
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no biggie..
to my knowledge i thought even if it did get rooted that it would no longer boot up on vzw/att? pretty sure youd need an unlocked BL regardless which most likely will not happen.. hasnt happened on vzwsammy since early s4 days lol
I don't think these phones have a good chance of getting root unless a universal method like towel root is discovered. Development is pretty much stagnant in the Verizon variants of these phones.
I blame all the a holes abusing unlimited data! With unlocked bootloader you can root, unlock WiFi Hotspot And feed the neighborhood
You don't need root for that... All you need is foxfi... Available on the Google play store
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I guess I don't understand what unlimited means.
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I blame all the a holes abusing unlimited data! With unlocked bootloader you can root, unlock WiFi Hotspot And feed the neighborhood
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Dumb statement. It goes deeper than that. With advertisement being one of the big reasons why it's locked down.
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Dumb statement. It goes deeper than that. With advertisement being one of the big reasons why it's locked down.
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That is true, but it's not a dumb statement , because that is part of it too.
So, you order all you can eat fish and get charged more and draw haters because you ate all you could eat. Wouldn't you be pissed if you bought a car with free oil change for life and 2 years later they wanted to start charging you because they never foreseen you actually using it and taking them for their word.
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