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I am expecting some biased answers here, but I am trying to decide between the Asus Zenwatch 2 and the Moto 360 1st Gen. I am in the market for a new watch, and I have decided to go with a smartwatch. I figure it will be much more useful. I mainly want it to tell time and to show me notifications. So I care less about any added features, heart rate monitors, etc.
Honestly, I do like the appearance of the Asus Zenwatch 2 more than the 360, when the display is off! The ONLY thing I do not like about the Zenwatch 2 is those damn bezels. If they filled the watch face with display, I would not be typing this right now and I would probably already have the watch.
I am just looking for input on the Asus Zenwatch 2 really. How do you all like it? Are the bezels as annoying in person as they are in real life? The main reason I am deciding between these two is because they are both $150 right now. That is all I am really looking to spend as I don't want one bad enough to spend $300-$400. If I did, I would hands down get the Samsung S2 Classic.
I had moto 360 but returned it due to battery life and performance though I heard some recent improvement due to android wear updates. Currently using zen watch 2 I like it overall and it is more future proof for its spec and speaker built in, I think which look you like more could be your decision factor, the only annoying thing is the range of bluetooth is short for zen watch 2 with my s6 edge+, other than that I am satisfied with it
The bezel is not so bad if you use a black watch face and it should save some battery as well
Zenroid said:
I had moto 360 but returned it due to battery life and performance though I heard some recent improvement due to android wear updates. Currently using zen watch 2 I like it overall and it is more future proof for its spec and speaker built in, I think which look you like more could be your decision factor, the only annoying thing is the range of bluetooth is short for zen watch 2 with my s6 edge+, other than that I am satisfied with it
The bezel is not so bad if you use a black watch face and it should save some battery as well
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I did read about the built in speaker, which is a nice addition as I am sure it is there for future support. All I want a smart watch for is to look at the time without having to take my beefy Nexus 6 out of my pocket, and for notifications to see who is calling, text messages, etc. I would care less about anything else. Heart sensors, GPS, none of that matters to me.
So I guess you are right. It ultimately comes down to which looks better to me. It is a toss up though... I do like the Zenwatch 2. If it wasn't for that thick bezel, this wouldn't be so hard for me. The Moto 360 is making it hard for me as well, as I do like the one model Motorola has on sale right now. The champagne with cognac leather is so my style. (I hate metal bands)
Do you know anything about the Sony Smartwatches? Amazon has the Sony SmartWatch 3 on sale from $299 to about $160....
ZenWatch2
Doesn't look like an Oreo
Better processor
No flat tire
Longer support (new vs year old)
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ZenWatch2
Doesn't look like an Oreo
Better processor
No flat tire
Longer support (new vs year old)
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I still can't make up my mind which smartwatch to get... The Moto 360 1st Gen is out though due to its dated processor and smaller battery life.
Now I am looking at the Fossil Q Founder. I feel this would be the smartest way for me to go, as it is more future proof than any other smartwatch on the market right now. It has an Intel Atom Processor with 1GB of ram. Sure, it does have the "flat tire" but I feel I can put up with the flat tire more than I can the massive bezels of the Zenwatch 2. I really like the overall design of the Zenwatch 2, so don't think I am here to bash it. When I decided I wanted a smartwatch I originally thought that is what I was going to get. The more I looked at it though the more I realized how much I didn't like the bezels. If they would have filled their watch face with display this thread would not be here right now and I would have one on my wrist. I would have paid $300 for an Asus Zenwatch 2 IF the face was pure AMOLED display. No BS! (1GB of ram would of been nice too)
What do you mean by " IF the face was pure AMOLED display"?
Not sure why you'd need 1GB of RAM on a watch.
The drawback of the ZW2 is that even though it has the same specs as nearly all the other watches, something about the software causes lag and underperforms the others in bench tests (there's a bench test thread in the Wear forum). Hopefully some custom ROMs and/or updates can fix that.
As far as the bezel, to each his own. It's understandable (dat bezel doe). Personally I just don't care, and the $130 price with LED display is pretty sweet.
Also...IIRC the Atom processor has historically had high power consumption compared to other mobile processors. Just something to consider.
I'm using the ZW2, after using it for a few days I think it's an amazing watch. First of all, the price is unbeatable. The screen is nice, and if compared to the moto 360, it has a speaker, so it's futureproof. Plus, the battery life is amazing, lasting 2-3 days isn't any issue. Regarding the bezel, I made a digital clock watch face, the numbers appear in white color. So when the watch is in standby, the black screen blends in with the bezel and it looks just great with the white digital clock. Simple and nice. Personally, regarding Android Wear itself, I think there is much room to improve it's functionality, like real notifications (not only links to open app on the phone). Plus, the app list isn't very user friendly.
Yea having owned the LG G Watch, ZW2, and now Hauwei Watch, the Motorola 1st gen is meh. My coworker has it and it is huge. The flat tire kinda would drive me crazy. And the battery on his lasts like half a day (wifi disabled, screen on, 5s standby, 50% screen brightness).
The ZW2 and the Hauwei are the only 2 with a speaker to support the future versions of Android Wear. I'm sure everyone will still get the update but speaker support was the reason why I upgraded.
The original Moto 360 used a TI OMAP processor. The Motorola 360 2 uses the Snapdragon 400, the same as the ZW2 and Hauwei.
I would pick the ZW2 over the first 360 Watch. The ZW2 is a second gen watch. The curved display feels great to "palm" (to turn off the display). It has WiFi and a speaker. It DOES NOT have a heart rate monitor, which are completely stupid in a watch anyway (IMO).
The 360 has a 300mAh battery, the 360 2 has a 400. The ZW2 has a 400. The Hauwei has a 300. Both the ZW2 and Hauwei (and LG G Watch) all had over 50% battery left at the end of the day.
The Motorola watches (1 and 2) both have LCD displays where the ZW2 and Hauwei have OLED. Black is true black. This may not seem that big of a deal, but when you have a "flashlight" on your wrist at night, even in standby mode, it is glaring. The OLED (similar to AMOLED), black is off. So if you have a black theme watch face, most of the pixels will be off = battery savings. Plus Standby mode only displays specific items, not the whole face. This looks much better on an OLED screen.
I can't recommend the Moto unless you simply looking for the cheapest round display watch.
The ZW2 is about $129 (cheaper on newegg). The Hauwei I bought locally for $299 + 10% off at Best Buy @ $269
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I still can't make up my mind which smartwatch to get... The Moto 360 1st Gen is out though due to its dated processor and smaller battery life.
Now I am looking at the Fossil Q Founder. I feel this would be the smartest way for me to go, as it is more future proof than any other smartwatch on the market right now. It has an Intel Atom Processor with 1GB of ram. Sure, it does have the "flat tire" but I feel I can put up with the flat tire more than I can the massive bezels of the Zenwatch 2. I really like the overall design of the Zenwatch 2, so don't think I am here to bash it. When I decided I wanted a smartwatch I originally thought that is what I was going to get. The more I looked at it though the more I realized how much I didn't like the bezels. If they would have filled their watch face with display this thread would not be here right now and I would have one on my wrist. I would have paid $300 for an Asus Zenwatch 2 IF the face was pure AMOLED display. No BS! (1GB of ram would of been nice too)
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The review of fossil founder seems not so good http://www.cnet.com/products/fossil-q-founder/
Figured I would update the thread.
So, I ended up ordering the Fossil Q Founder. I didn't like it. I didn't like the way it fit / felt on my wrist. It was really bulky. The flat tire was worse in person than I thought it was going to be. Also, the report I read that it had an internal speaker was false. It does not have the speaker. So I sent it back. This is what I get for not going with my first instinct. I originally wanted the Zenwatch 2 when I decided to get a new watch / smart watch.
So, I ordered the Zenwatch 2! I ordered the Gun Metal version. (Stainless Steel band) I think it looks very sharp and sleek. I paid $200 shipped, $100 under the Fossil Q Founder! I can't wait to get it and try it out.
Yea but looking at specs it seems comparable to a Moto 360 kinda. Flat Tire LCD screen. Atom processor. 400mAh battery. $299. The only thing I can see is that for the price you would be better off with a Hauwei Watch (what I currently own).
I really can't complain about the ZenWatch 2. It is the thinnest of all the watches, curved screen so it kinda hugs your wrist. $129. Speaker support. Waterproof. Amoled Screen. The charger was great. I can't really recommend any other watch unless you are die hard wanting a round screen, then the Hauwei Watch is the winner there. The Snapdragon chipsets really sip battery.
I picked up my mate 20 pro yesterday and I am happy with the phone except for one issue, the display. Coming from a note 8 the mate 20 pro display is really washed out looking. Colours dont pop the way they do on the note., t all looks very bland. Is this a known issue or just the way the display is because if its normal I think Ill have to return it.
it's just the way it is. Samsung over-saturate the colors so they don't look realistic but they look great (subjective opinion, some people prefer "realistic colors", or at least try to convince themselves to justify purchase), for example if you take a picture of grass it'll look better on the screen that it does in real life lol.
Also samsung uses SuperAMOLED which has the touch panel layer integrated in the screen and it is extremely thin around 0.001 mm, which makes it look almost as if there was no glass at all and as if you were looking directly at the screen and makes other phones look as if screen was a little bit separated from glass and you're looking through it like looking at a landscape from the inside of your car with window up vs rolling the window down
https://youtu.be/aQkLMG3SBQ4
This was one of the main reasons I'm returning the Mate 20 Pro and going back to the Note 9, I do watch a lot of videos on the phone so had to go back to the Note 9 because of the way superior display. The screen on the Mate 20 Pro is considerable narrower and smaller overall when watching videos with the notch hidden, colors washed out, not superAMOLED and I had the awful green tint issue in low light conditions (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78076209).
I was sitting here with my OnePlus 5 wondering if I should get the S10 or S10+. I want the more battery and portrait selfies but don't like really huge phones that must be used with 2 hands for nearly all tasks.
So I decided to bring up GSMarena to compare the size of my OnePlus 5 to the S10+ and to my surprise they are nearly identical. My main concern is of course the width and height.
I still can't believe this but the width of the 2 devices are completely IDENTICAL! With the height of the S10+ only being 0.13 inches taller. Barely a noticeable difference.
This has got me thinking maybe I should get the S10+ anyways. It will be worth the extra 700mah battery and extra front camera when it's the nearly the same size as my OnePlus 5 which is very much 1 handable for me with pretty normal hand size for a 6'0" tall guy.
If you were thinking of getting the S10, does seeing the S10+ is same width as a OnePlus 5 and barely any taller make you think to get the S10+ now?
Thanks for the info. I too have OP5 and was wondering the same thing!
Still undecided on whether to go for Samsung at all though or wait to see what OP comes up with later in the year. I had an S6E a few years back and whilst it looked nice, I hated Touchwiz. Not had any experience with One UI though.
Don't hesitate to take S10 +.
I already did it (I ordered S10 +). I am also the owner OP5.
As if not much, but always a large battery is desirable. Such Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 has the same battery as S10 + and holds even two days.
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I was sitting here with my OnePlus 5 wondering if I should get the S10 or S10+. I want the more battery and portrait selfies but don't like really huge phones that must be used with 2 hands for nearly all tasks.
So I decided to bring up GSMarena to compare the size of my OnePlus 5 to the S10+ and to my surprise they are nearly identical. My main concern is of course the width and height.
I still can't believe this but the width of the 2 devices are completely IDENTICAL! With the height of the S10+ only being 0.13 inches taller. Barely a noticeable difference.
This has got me thinking maybe I should get the S10+ anyways. It will be worth the extra 700mah battery and extra front camera when it's the nearly the same size as my OnePlus 5 which is very much 1 handable for me with pretty normal hand size for a 6'0" tall guy.
If you were thinking of getting the S10, does seeing the S10+ is same width as a OnePlus 5 and barely any taller make you think to get the S10+ now?
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Device dimensions are important to me as well. I currently have the S9 Plus and I wish to avoid a larger device. At GSM Arena under Specifications the S10+ is supposed to be a bit shorter (length) than the S9 Plus. When the devices are shown side by side on Samsung's US website, the S10+ is noticeably taller than the S9 Plus. I'm not sure why this is the case.
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/g...ng-galaxy-s9+&device-2=samsung-galaxy-s7-edge
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I was sitting here with my OnePlus 5 wondering if I should get the S10 or S10+. I want the more battery and portrait selfies but don't like really huge phones that must be used with 2 hands for nearly all tasks.
So I decided to bring up GSMarena to compare the size of my OnePlus 5 to the S10+ and to my surprise they are nearly identical. My main concern is of course the width and height.
I still can't believe this but the width of the 2 devices are completely IDENTICAL! With the height of the S10+ only being 0.13 inches taller. Barely a noticeable difference.
This has got me thinking maybe I should get the S10+ anyways. It will be worth the extra 700mah battery and extra front camera when it's the nearly the same size as my OnePlus 5 which is very much 1 handable for me with pretty normal hand size for a 6'0" tall guy.
If you were thinking of getting the S10, does seeing the S10+ is same width as a OnePlus 5 and barely any taller make you think to get the S10+ now?
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Go the phonearena and use the size comparison tool. The s10+ is not much bigger the OP5.
https://www.phonearena.com/phones/s...5,Samsung-Galaxy-S10/phones/10960,10501,10959
Please, convince me on not buying the Pro...
I have the S21 Ultra so didn't need the zoom ,120hz and so the extra 300 for the Pro were not worth the hassle.
Also the 6 has everything else the same and in the UK you got the bose 700 headphones on preorder regardless which you got.
So it was a no brainer for me.
If you are not a camera person the Pixel 6 is the way to go.
Also compared to the Pro the S21 Ultra is a better buy with 10x zoom and the Spen feature and you probably get it cheaper now.
Didn't think it was worth $300 more.
The Pixel 6 Pro has curved screen edges while the Pixel 6 is a flat screen which is what I prefer.
Curved screen. Have an actual camera so the $300 for the telephoto did not seem economic.
Curved screen, size, and price.
Yeah the telephoto would be cool in certain situations and there's been a few times already I wish I had it, but not enough to justify an extra $300 and having to put up with the screen edges and extra bulk.
Physically the Pixel 6 is a nearly identical in size to my Pixel 2 XL, just a smidgen heavier.
Size. Pro is too big.
Size, price and the flat screen.
In the UK the price difference is £300, which is over $400. Crazy amount to justify the additional zoom and screen differences.
I also prefer the black frame look to the metallic sides of the Pro.
improved battery live over the Pro. Often I ask keep asking myself the same question and so far come back to the same conclusion. It would be really cool to have a flagship phone with the beautiful curved and larger screen and the additional camera feature. But then it's $300 more for that and the additional RAM. I've had an S21 Ultra before and sometimes miss the large smooth screen.
If there had been a difference in the processor I would have definitely picked the Pro.
cheers
I bought both to compare to each other and send back one within the return window.
I like the size of the 6 better, and the color of the sorta sea foam. The 6 screen wasn't as responsive out of the box but now for some reason feels more fluid.
The audio is important to me as I use phones with Viper4android with high end gear and both phones sound the same in that dept, almost better than my S21 Ultra, which until now was the best sounding phone to me.
Weird that Pixel doesn't have dolby like Samsung and One Plus phones.
Mostly price, but also size and flat screen.
Price was too much for me, don't care about telescopic lens, phone is too big for me, and lastly the curved edges make it difficult to find a good reliable glass screen protector.
As of now, not even Whitestone Dome has come up with a glass screen protector and they make great glass screen protectors for screens with curved edges.
The Pixel 6 is about the same size as previous Pixel XL devices which makes it the perfect size for me. The regular sized Pixel was fine for me back then too but the small battery along with not being able to see very well when having two windows open is a deal breaker for me.
Mainly price and being a flat screen device.
Money and flat screen.
The bigger question for me is why I got a Pixel 6 and not a lower end phone. I never even considered the pro because:
A) Price
B) I preferred a even smaller, not larger phone.
C) Camera was of minimal concern for me because I rarely use a cell phone for 'real' pictures - I have a mirrorless APS-C camera for that. Cell phone pics are more for in store "which item should I get?" type pics.
D) Coming from a 60Hz screen, 90Hz was already an upgrade.
E) I am not a gamer, and don't push my phone hard, so extra RAM was not necessary.
D) According to reviews, real world battery life on the regular model is suppose to be better. (I assume the bigger higher res screen on the pro is the main reason)
I came from a Pixel 4 XL which became a sweet spot size wise for me. The Pixel 6 is very comparable in size to the Pixel 4 XL so that and the price is what made me buy the 6 over the 6 Pro.
If I hadn't needed the 512 GB version of the Pixel 6, which is only in Pro, I would have strongly considered the regular 6. I don't regret having the Pro except for the curved screens, but I knew it would.
I had never seen a Pro until yesterday, but it only took me 10 seconds for me to know I made the right choice. I don't like the curved screen and although it is slightly taller, it didn't appear to be any wider than the regular 6.
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2 words: flat screen
How is Google doing currently for being accurate on delivery estimates? I ordered mine yesterday and was told Nov 30-Dec 1. Sound about right?
I has postponed getting one until I had a chance to run out to BestBuy and see one for myself since I was concerned about its size. It turns out that it is not that much larger than my 3a! Comparing actual screen sizes it looks a LOT bigger, but then a good 3/4" of the 3a's height is taken up with the bezels, and overall the 6 is only about .2" taller and wider. My pockets can handle that!