Bootloader unlock, DRM untrusted and services like Amazon Video and Spotify - LG G5 Questions & Answers

Hi,
just got my G5 (H850 EU model) and was reading about the process to unlock the bootloader and get root.
On LG's page it says that as part of the unlocking, the DRM protection will "become untrusted". Can anyone confirm whether Amazon Video and Spotify work despite this?
I am coming from a rooted Oneplus 2 (switching only because of non-expandable storage on the Oneplus 2) and both Amazon Video and Spotify work flawlessly on the device. But then I don't know anything about the status of the DRM protection on it and if it was changed when I rooted the phone.
If I cannot use these two services, the G5 would not be reasonable replacement, of course.
Thanks for any info,
M

xdam57733 said:
Hi,
just got my G5 (H850 EU model) and was reading about the process to unlock the bootloader and get root.
On LG's page it says that as part of the unlocking, the DRM protection will "become untrusted". Can anyone confirm whether Amazon Video and Spotify work despite this?
I am coming from a rooted Oneplus 2 (switching only because of non-expandable storage on the Oneplus 2) and both Amazon Video and Spotify work flawlessly on the device. But then I don't know anything about the status of the DRM protection on it and if it was changed when I rooted the phone.
If I cannot use these two services, the G5 would not be reasonable replacement, of course.
Thanks for any info,
M
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Spotify works fine

xdam57733 said:
Hi,
just got my G5 (H850 EU model) and was reading about the process to unlock the bootloader and get root.
On LG's page it says that as part of the unlocking, the DRM protection will "become untrusted". Can anyone confirm whether Amazon Video and Spotify work despite this?
I am coming from a rooted Oneplus 2 (switching only because of non-expandable storage on the Oneplus 2) and both Amazon Video and Spotify work flawlessly on the device. But then I don't know anything about the status of the DRM protection on it and if it was changed when I rooted the phone.
If I cannot use these two services, the G5 would not be reasonable replacement, of course.
Thanks for any info,
M
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As does Amazon video on my rooted H850...u might have issues with Android Pay, if u use that, but I think they even have a workaround for that...
Keep in mind also that with root comes xposed, and with xposed comes tons of mods for properly working services for those apps and others where root would ordinarily break functionality.
But I didn't have to do anything outside of downloading Amazon App Store and installing Amazon Prime Video to get it working properly. I also use HBO Now without the need to modify anything. Hope that helps!

Can also confirm Spotify works, I've heard Android pay works with system less Root and Xposed but cannot verify that.

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[Q] Lose Amazon abilities with Root/ROM

I have pre-ordered the HDX 8.9 and want to know if I will lose any of the native Amazon capabilities? This would be my first Kindle so I wonder what experiences others have had with rooting. I mostly don't want to lose the capability of downloading Amazon Prime movies/T.V. shows for later playback.
I'm sure I will root it, I love being able to replace ROMs whenever I want and seeing what the Dev's come up with, I think this could turn out to be a great tablet.
Do you think there will be any change of getting Dual Boot on this? That would be awesome!
If you only root, but leave the original OS, all your native apps will work as they do now, of course. But if you decide to install a stock android ROM or Cyanogenmod, etc, then you will lose some things, most of which would be your prime instant videos. Once the ROM is changed, you will only be able to replace those services with what you find in Google Play. I would research all your features/apps in the Play Store for comparable replacements before rooting so you know exactly what you'll lose. (To me its well worth it).
sr.mcgill said:
I have pre-ordered the HDX 8.9 and want to know if I will lose any of the native Amazon capabilities? This would be my first Kindle so I wonder what experiences others have had with rooting. I mostly don't want to lose the capability of downloading Amazon Prime movies/T.V. shows for later playback.
I'm sure I will root it, I love being able to replace ROMs whenever I want and seeing what the Dev's come up with, I think this could turn out to be a great tablet.
Do you think there will be any change of getting Dual Boot on this? That would be awesome!
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Its too early to say. With no known root method yet. 1st gen kf prime video app broke when rooted. The hd's were fine with root. So too many unknowns now. i am betting amazon will implement forced updates to use their services and apps and also most likely some kinda auto lockout and restore function. Dual boot with amazon boot loader not gonna happen.
im considering one for the kindle text to speech. most my books are on kindle for android but you have to get the kindle hardware to do the text to speech. bummer.

Does the Barclays banking app work on stock?

Hello wonderful folks of XDA Developers.
I haven't posted here in a while. I was once all about rooting and custom ROMs but I've sadly not got the time to play with my phone any more.
Anyways - I need to know if anybody in the UK can use the Barclays Banking app on their Xiaomi Redmi Note 3. I personally have the Elephone P9000 and if you spend a minute in that forum you'll find that the devs at Elephone haven't signed off the ROM with the correct keys (whatever that means!) so the security test for Android Pay fails (CTS profile mismatch error)
My Mother-in-Law is looking at the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 at the moment and really needs this app to work - apparently so important she'll not get the phone if it doesn't work and will instead get a more common brand phone (and miss out on the great spec that this offers for its price range!)
So - does the Barclays Banking app work on a stock Xiaomi Redmi Note 3?
Thanks!
Well, your mother-in-law probably bought a different phone by now, but no harm in answering. And the answer is no, at least I haven’t managed so far. I keep getting the CTS mismatch error even on un-rooted un-Xposed stock ROM. I don’t know why though. I think that the stock ROM has the correct user keys, so I’m still figuring out why. When I tried to run Barclays Mobile App it crashed, although I’m not in the UK so I had to download it from a third-party website which could also be factor. Anyway, some apps that require SafetyNet can still work on stock ROM, so if your mother-in-law would prefer to play Pokemon GO instead of using the banking app, this device is perfect.

Question about Widewine Level for DRM streaming contents - Netflix HD

There is some owner of this tablet that can confirm if this tablet has widewine level 1 (using drm info app) and if it can play netflix in HD, and at which resolution playing test patterns on Netflix? It would be very useful
I have the pad (10.8") and a Netflix account. Point me to the correct test to play and I'll give you all the info you want. As far as I know, sadly, it won't play in HD. But do tell me what you want me to try.
gorman42 said:
I have the pad (10.8") and a Netflix account. Point me to the correct test to play and I'll give you all the info you want. As far as I know, sadly, it won't play in HD. But do tell me what you want me to try.
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Just search for test patterns, play one of them and look at the resolution reported on the right top corner. Report it here, thanks
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It only supports level 3, e.g., no Netflix and amazon HD for whatever reason.
I checked with the app drm info.
Steffe89 said:
It only supports level 3, e.g., no Netflix and amazon HD for whatever reason.
I checked with the app drm info.
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Thank you.
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This is pretty much unbelievable, considering they called the product Mediapad and Netflix comes preinstalled.
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Actually... I went to test as requested. Tapped on Netflix icon (comes preinstalled). Got a message stating "you need to update the app". Tapped that. Went to Play Store and it says my device is not compatible with the app. If I search for Netflix on Play Store, the official app does not come up in results. Bootloader is unlocked but I'm not rooted.
I have no problems running Netflix and it does not say not compatible.
@gorman42 did you check whether your device still passes SafetyNet? Most likely Netflix is using SafetyNet to check whether the device was modified and then it's not installing.
Extremely disappointing as I really need to replace my Nexus 7 (2013) tablet which DOES support HD streaming... I've read supposedly that L1 support can be added via software update, but who knows if Huawei would ever be motivated enough. If you google around you can see people clamoring for L1 for various Huawei devices.
boatnik said:
Extremely disappointing as I really need to replace my Nexus 7 (2013) tablet which DOES support HD streaming... I've read supposedly that L1 support can be added via software update, but who knows if Huawei would ever be motivated enough. If you google around you can see people clamoring for L1 for various Huawei devices.
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One plus require you to ship the phone to them in order to update it to L1... So maybe a software is not that straightforward
Steffe89 said:
One plus require you to ship the phone to them in order to update it to L1... So maybe a software is not that straightforward
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Oof barely better than nothing I guess. RMA for a tablet would be less disruptive than a phone at least.
AndDiSa said:
@gorman42 did you check whether your device still passes SafetyNet? Most likely Netflix is using SafetyNet to check whether the device was modified and then it's not installing.
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Yup, CTS profile match failed. Any fix? I have a regular NetFlix subscribtion, this is disappointing to say the least.
Just having the bootloader unlocked is enough to trigger this? Jeez...
It's kind of ironic, considering that once you have root you can then hide root, fix SafetyNet... I unlocked the bootloader as soon as I received it, as doing it requires formatting everything and I wanted to avoid that in the future (hoping for root).
@gorman42 No, I don't know how to fix but I had a similar problem with my current phone. After installing Magisk everything is fine now ...
Btw. I got my sht-w09 "Schubert" device today, not having it unlocked. Did you register as a developer to get your unlock code or how did you unlock your device?
AndDiSa said:
@gorman42 No, I don't know how to fix but I had a similar problem with my current phone. After installing Magisk everything is fine now ...
Btw. I got my sht-w09 "Schubert" device today, not having it unlocked. Did you register as a developer to get your unlock code or how did you unlock your device?
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I followed the procedure on Huawei website, yes. To install Magisk on this we need root, don't we?
gorman42 said:
I followed the procedure on Huawei website, yes. To install Magisk on this we need root, don't we?
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No, not realy as you can install Magisk Manager (which doesn't need root permissions) and from there you can patch the boot image ...
But only theoretically speaking as I didn't test and as I am unsure that our device is supported yet. If something fails there's a risk for a bootloop and one would need to install at least a clean boot image. A bit risky without a further net of security. I'll need to inform myself a bit more about the Huawei devices and Kirin 960 ...
Also... isn't it strange for the app to come up as not compatible with the device just for the bootloader? I suspect the reason is not SafetyNet. I've seen apps refusing to run in the past, but never apps not being downloadable from Play Store. Am I wrong?
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mike2587 said:
Just search for test patterns, play one of them and look at the resolution reported on the right top corner. Report it here, thanks
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Ok. It's 720x480.
I had to uninstall the preinstalled version and install the apk from here: https://help.netflix.com/en/node/57688
Pretty unbelievable...
It's a bad joke. I'm returning it. I didn't believe it but it's true, it doesn't support wivewine and it's a 400€ device. The thing just gets worse when I think that my nexus 7 (2013) has it.
gallegus said:
It's a bad joke. I'm returning it. I didn't believe it but it's true, it doesn't support wivewine and it's a 400€ device. The thing just gets worse when I think that my nexus 7 (2013) has it.
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Absolutely, it's f*cking ridiculous, i won't buy this tablet for this reason. The only recent tablets in the official netflix HD devices list, are the galaxy tab S2 and S3, i'm thinking of buying an S2, but I hate the fact that it's 2 years old and with 3gb ram.
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I debated with myself for long hours. I've just activated the return procedure on Amazon. I don't think it's correct to justify this unacceptable decision with my hard earned money.
So long Mediapad M5. Maybe next time don't advertise (and name) something as a media tablet with HD screen if you intend to cripple it to SD resolutions for video streaming.
Can this be solved through an update by Huawei? Or it is a problem that will remain in time.It makes me doubt a lot to buying it

No Netflix, no Amazon Prime Video

I had my tablet reset and installed from scratch yesterday. It restored my apps from my google account and both Netflix and Amazon Prime were installed.
Weird: Netflix was installed, but once I click on it, it says that it's incompatible with this version, please Update. I can't update, because it doesn't even turn up in the play store. Amazon Prime Video starts, shows available content in HD, a movie plays, but only audio, no video, just a black screen. DRM info said that it's L1 security, so everything should work in terms of DRM.
However, PlayStore says that the device is Uncertified. Disabling, clearing data and cache didn't make a change.
System Software is up to date and I have no idea where to start looking.
Just to make sure that this is not the culprit, I made a full reset of the device AND relocked the bootloader, so this should be a device like factory new.
Yet, PlayStore uncertified, no Netflix, black picture in Amazon Prime HD. I am really tempted to just throw this device out of the window.
DF5JT said:
Just to make sure that this is not the culprit, I made a full reset of the device AND relocked the bootloader, so this should be a device like factory new.
Yet, PlayStore uncertified, no Netflix, black picture in Amazon Prime HD. I am really tempted to just throw this device out of the window.
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Never assume relocking bootloader makes it stock.
Efuses and DRM keysxare common, and once they are blown/wiped, it's game over, you will never return to stock
CrazyPeter said:
Never assume relocking bootloader makes it stock.
Efuses and DRM keysxare common, and once they are blown/wiped, it's game over, you will never return to stock
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You do have something to back your assumption up with, say, facts?
What are the manufacturers, what supports your claim in term of engineer analysis?
Where can I read about it?
DF5JT said:
You do have something to back your assumption up with, say, facts?
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The fact that you've unlocked, relocked but Playstore says uncertified and you're having these problems?
Don't have a go at someone trying to help you out, fella. CrazyPeter is only suggesting the possibility that once you're unlocked, that's it: it's highly possible that "re-locking" doesn't undo something that's used by apps to detect non-stock. It's not for him to prove that's true, he's only trying to help. You should have done your own research before unlocking.
I'd been through this before too. If you unlocked bootloader, your tablet will fail safetynet test. Playstore wouldn't let you install or update netflix.
I tried relock bootloader and it passed safetynet, Netflix will come up in Playstore and allowed to install. It worked fine with HD streaming. You have to make sure to start from scratch and don't restore from backup after relock bootloader (which factory reset your device anyway)
I went with supposedly best solution, unlocked bootloader , stay with stock recovery and just fastboot patched ramdisk for magisk installation. In the end magisk would make your device pass safetynet and can install netflix and works fine. Also you can recieve an OTA update, and can always patch magisk again on new build.
Don't know about primevideo since I don't use t.
DF5JT said:
You do have something to back your assumption up with, say, facts?
What are the manufacturers, what supports your claim in term of engineer analysis?
Where can I read about it?
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https://www.androidpolice.com/2015/...have-efuses-and-why-should-i-care-about-them/
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3/DRM-Keys-Restore-after-Relock-Bootloader/td-p/890849#gref
oldpoem said:
.....I went with supposedly best solution, unlocked bootloader , stay with stock recovery and just fastboot patched ramdisk for magisk installation. In the end magisk would make your device pass safetynet and can install netflix and works fine. Also you can recieve an OTA update, and can always patch magisk again on new build.
Don't know about primevideo since I don't use t.
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This is the solution I followed when I initially unlocked my bootloader.
Hulu, Amazon Prime and Netflix all work.
whih device was this on?
a US device (WIFI only?) or an international/Chinese device with LTE/4G?
I am about to purchase a Chinese version in order to get LTE and I am wondering whether I will be unable to download and watch netflix?
I got my CMR-W09 (wifi) tablet today and I can confirm it plays Amazon Prime and Vudu in HD. I don't have an account with Netflix so I could not check it. The Vudu app shows that some of my movies in my wishlist are in UHD (4K). I did not check being I would have to pay for them.
Seems so bizarre to me that Google, Netflix, Amazon, etc., would be encouraging piracy by banning their paying customers from using the service. I'm honestly at a loss for words.
I had this issue on my Note 3, which can't pass SafetyNet as it's under my control, not Google's. When Netflix started requiring SafetyNet, I emailed for a confirmation. That was the end of our 9 year business relationship; I am no longer a customer.
I subscribed to YouTube Red, as (ironically) they still seem to value their engineering customers. However, should they follow suit, that business relationship will end as well, and I'll find someone else to spend my money with.
I know it can be tough, but I do encourage everyone affected by DRM to cancel their subscriptions, and take their business elsewhere.
If you do, just make sure you contact the company's Sales / Marketing team (definitely not tech support!). Explain to them in very clear, polite terms exactly why you'll be switching to their competitor, and that you'll be back if they ever decide to correct the situation.
I'm also completely stock (never been rooted etc) and exact same issues with Amazon Video.
Only thing that might cause issues is my ad blocker (Adclear), but having uninstalled that I have the same issue.
I'd be keen to know if you resolve as Google searches don't throw up much, and unfortunately the thread I started hasn't produced any solutions either!
So..... I was on the phone to Amazon support and was playing with my settings....
I use a "corner round" app to make the tablet screen more visually appealing - as soon as I disable it, Prime Video works!
So, if you have anything that creates a screen overlay, try disabling it and using Netflix / Prime video. Give it a try!
Best,
You guys know that huawei already made the update through OTA that netflix can run HD and prime video as well right?

Life after ROOT

So. I did a bunch of complaining about the T-Mobile network lock and the whole waiting game.. Then I found out that I had to wait an additional undetermined amount of days tp get the OEM key from OnePlus.. Grrrrrr... Arrrggg!! Well if any of you have a Nord 10 5G from the USA and it happens to be a carrier phone its gonna take at least 45 days from Carrier to OEM before you can root the thing. Just this morning, and after a long wait with much study on this process, I finally had my climactic victory with my first rooted device with a custom ROM. I am seriously a novice when it comes to these phones. Thank Geebus I have some sort of tech understanding and a ton of patience because I now have a beautifully modded Nord N10 5G that runs like a Pixel 5 with all the bells and whistles. A great deal of thanks goes to you folks for providing me the tools and know how to get thru this. The new PixelExperience_Plus ROM worked like a charm. And my ignorant American ass got it right on the fist try! I can't wait to see what kinds of new things you all will let me chew on in the near future. Cheers!!
Spidermonkeyj75 said:
So. I did a bunch of complaining about the T-Mobile network lock and the whole waiting game.. Then I found out that I had to wait an additional undetermined amount of days tp get the OEM key from OnePlus.. Grrrrrr... Arrrggg!! Well if any of you have a Nord 10 5G from the USA and it happens to be a carrier phone its gonna take at least 45 days from Carrier to OEM before you can root the thing. Just this morning, and after a long wait with much study on this process, I finally had my climactic victory with my first rooted device with a custom ROM. I am seriously a novice when it comes to these phones. Thank Geebus I have some sort of tech understanding and a ton of patience because I now have a beautifully modded Nord N10 5G that runs like a Pixel 5 with all the bells and whistles. A great deal of thanks goes to you folks for providing me the tools and know how to get thru this. The new PixelExperience_Plus ROM worked like a charm. And my ignorant American ass got it right on the fist try! I can't wait to see what kinds of new things you all will let me chew on in the near future. Cheers!!
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I'm currently on my 6th rooted phone and I can assure you that typically it's never a relaxed process: You're always anxious because you don't want to turn your phone into a useless brick (unbootable and no possible fix).
However, just like you, all the knowledge we gain when rooting the phones it's totally worthy.
Now, since this is your first root, I want to share some useful root-required apps with you (most of them are not available on Google's play store, you can find them on F-Droid for example):
AdAway: System-wide free and open-source ad blocker. It has predefined ads lists. Some games where you get rewards for viewing ads either show an error when viewing the ad or give will simply reward you instantly without showing the ad.
AFWall+: System-wide firewall that blocks internet access for certain apps: Useful to avoid fishy apps to send your personal info to their servers. For example ATM I'm blocking Microsoft SwiftKey Keyboard, Google Messages and Google Phone.
Bouncer (paid): Gives temporary permissions to the apps and remembers your option: If you want to send an image through facebook go ahead, allow the external storage access, then later a notification shows up asking you to remove the pending temporary permissions.
OverrideDNS (paid): Probably the best DNS overrider you can find, it listens for new connections and automatically changes the DNS to your desired one.
Greenify: It's a huge helper on battery saving, allows you to select apps that you don't want to allow to run on background: Greenify kills these apps. Useful if you're like me and you have lots of apps that you use ONLY when needed, for instance, I don't want any of my games to run on background and I don't want to be bothered by game notifications.
Boot animations for superuser: Allows you to flash custom boot animations. Be careful with this app, I didn't try it yet on OP N10 (since I actually like Oxygen's boot animation).
Tasker (paid): Now this is where the fun begins... You can automate pretty much anything! Let me give you some examples that I have on my tasker:
Managing some custom profiles (technically speaking, custom tasks). I have 2 pre-defined profiles: Home and Outside (they change screen brightness, volumes, vibration, display timeout, wi-fi state, mobile data state, and so on, and these values depend if I'm connected to my smartwatch or not).
If my phone connects to my car's BT system, I forced tasker into changing to my Outside profile. If my phone is at my house's coordinates, it changes to home profile.
Whenever I connect my headset, it automatically opens Spotify.
When I received a text message, my torch flashes 3 times.
If my battery reaches 10%, it automatically sends my GF a message saying my battery is running low.
Whenever I open Google Maps, my GPS turns on.
Do you have links to these wonderful apps?
Spidermonkeyj75 said:
Do you have links to these wonderful apps?
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Yes.
AdAway (or get it from F-Droid)
AFWall+ (you can also find it on Google Play or F-Droid)
Bouncer: You can either visit the author's website or get it on Google Play
OverrideDNS (you can find it on Google Play)
Greenify (you can find it on Google Play)
Boot animations for Super User (you can find it on Google Play)
Tasker (you can find it on Google Play)
You can also see some examples of tasker capabilities on the author's YouTube channel.
Oh man, wait until you get apps like V4A running.
It's a whole new ballpark, just gotta be careful not to hit too many foul balls.
So make sure to keep a backup whenever you start messing around.
CF Lumen (Play Store)
Titanium Backup (Play Store)
Solid Explorer (Play Store)
I thought the advantage to buying OnePlus phones is that they do not lock the bootloader, so no rooting is required (I read that somewhere online). Is that not correct?
I have been thinking about the N10 or 8T, but the lack of carrier support is making me hesitant. Also, the N10 has very good specs for the price, but with only one Android update and only 2 years of security updates, it would (I assume) need to have a custom rom installed after that to maintain security. Is that correct?
stealth49rt said:
I thought the advantage to buying OnePlus phones is that they do not lock the bootloader, so no rooting is required (I read that somewhere online). Is that not correct?
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Not correct, the bootloader is still locked but:
If you unlock it, the device will still pass Google's SafetyNet check (which is used to check if your device is reliable to use more sensitive APPs/features: Netflix, Brave's rewards feature, some payment APPs). When I rooted my Xiaomi MI A3, unlocking the bootloader made the device being marked as untrustworthy, and therefore failing the SafetyNet.
OnePlus allows users to root their phone without voiding the warranty.
stealth49rt said:
I have been thinking about the N10 or 8T, but the lack of carrier support is making me hesitant. Also, the N10 has very good specs for the price, but with only one Android update and only 2 years of security updates, it would (I assume) need to have a custom rom installed after that to maintain security. Is that correct?
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What do you mean carrier support? The first time I bought an OP device, they weren't even officially selling in my country.
Are you telling me that your country still sim-locks the devices? Why don't you buy it directly from oneplus.com? I think those are unlocked.
If you're referring to the frequency support, you can Google to check the frequency coverage in your area and compare with the device's supported frequencies.
OP's typically have a good ROM support, try Pixel Experience...
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Not correct, the bootloader is still locked but:
If you unlock it, the device will still pass Google's SafetyNet check (which is used to check if your device is reliable to use more sensitive APPs/features: Netflix, Brave's rewards feature, some payment APPs). When I rooted my Xiaomi MI A3, unlocking the bootloader made the device being marked as untrustworthy, and therefore failing the SafetyNet.
OnePlus allows users to root their phone without voiding the warranty.
What do you mean carrier support? The first time I bought an OP device, they weren't even officially selling in my country.
Are you telling me that your country still sim-locks the devices? Why don't you buy it directly from oneplus.com? I think those are unlocked.
If you're referring to the frequency support, you can Google to check the frequency coverage in your area and compare with the device's supported frequencies.
OP's typically have a good ROM support, try Pixel Experience...
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I apologize for my confusing message. I am in the USA. By "carriers" I meant companies like Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, etc. I am currently on Republic Wireless with a Moto G5s Plus (stuck on Android 8 and no more security patches either). RW doesn't allow the N10 5G yet on their network. I have only found a few MVNOs that do (e.g. Mint Mobile). Just about all support phones from Moto and Samsung. So I feel I may be going out on a limb getting a OnePlus phone.
AT&T actually (temporarily) suspended my account for turning the N105G on, with my AT&T SIM in it. Learned the hard way no one answers the phone anymore outside business hours, glad I didn't need to make any calls or do it on Friday at 5:01p. They got fired for that.
TMobile took it happily, no issues with activation, nice 5G signal (we don't have MMw in my city, but uses one of the other bands). Speed varies by location/tower, but have clocked downloads over 380Mbs. Note that Tmobile uses IPV6 and IPV4, so for certain things like VPNs you either have to futz with the APN settings to do IPV4 only, or make sure you have IPV6 functionality on destination sites (when you do, works pretty damn slick, I must say).
The thought of using Verizon makes me want to throw up, so no comments on that one.
Hope that helps.
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AT&T actually (temporarily) suspended my account for turning the N105G on, with my AT&T SIM in it. Learned the hard way no one answers the phone anymore outside business hours, glad I didn't need to make any calls or do it on Friday at 5:01p. They got fired for that.
TMobile took it happily, no issues with activation, nice 5G signal (we don't have MMw in my city, but uses one of the other bands). Speed varies by location/tower, but have clocked downloads over 380Mbs. Note that Tmobile uses IPV6 and IPV4, so for certain things like VPNs you either have to futz with the APN settings to do IPV4 only, or make sure you have IPV6 functionality on destination sites (when you do, works pretty damn slick, I must say).
The thought of using Verizon makes me want to throw up, so no comments on that one.
Hope that helps.
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There's a reason why AT&T is losing customers
stealth49rt said:
I apologize for my confusing message. I am in the USA. By "carriers" I meant companies like Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, etc. I am currently on Republic Wireless with a Moto G5s Plus (stuck on Android 8 and no more security patches either). RW doesn't allow the N10 5G yet on their network. I have only found a few MVNOs that do (e.g. Mint Mobile). Just about all support phones from Moto and Samsung. So I feel I may be going out on a limb getting a OnePlus phone.
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If you have the ability to mod your phone, I mean install a custom ROM I suggest Pixel experience and Deepest. I've run them both and you have a lot more control over your radio options and network capability. Good luck!
Spidermonkeyj75 said:
If you have the ability to mod your phone, I mean install a custom ROM I suggest Pixel experience and Derpfest I've run them both and you have a lot more control over your radio options and network capability. Good luck!
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Spidermonkeyj75 said:
So. I did a bunch of complaining about the T-Mobile network lock and the whole waiting game.. Then I found out that I had to wait an additional undetermined amount of days tp get the OEM key from OnePlus.. Grrrrrr... Arrrggg!! Well if any of you have a Nord 10 5G from the USA and it happens to be a carrier phone its gonna take at least 45 days from Carrier to OEM before you can root the thing. Just this morning, and after a long wait with much study on this process, I finally had my climactic victory with my first rooted device with a custom ROM. I am seriously a novice when it comes to these phones. Thank Geebus I have some sort of tech understanding and a ton of patience because I now have a beautifully modded Nord N10 5G that runs like a Pixel 5 with all the bells and whistles. A great deal of thanks goes to you folks for providing me the tools and know how to get thru this. The new PixelExperience_Plus ROM worked like a charm. And my ignorant American ass got it right on the fist try! I can't wait to see what kinds of new things you all will let me chew on in the near future. Cheers!!
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Hi, i just had to ditch my pixel2 when the screen died and got the nord 10 5g. if rooted plenty of phones before but never had to wait to get an oem key from a vendor. would you mind elaborating on this point before i head into nightmare?
frankygoes said:
Hi, i just had to ditch my pixel2 when the screen died and got the nord 10 5g. if rooted plenty of phones before but never had to wait to get an oem key from a vendor. would you mind elaborating on this point before i head into nightmare?
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No problem, if you have a T-Mobile carrier you will have to jump thru a few hoops to get your network (SIM) unlock , then you have to run a command via ADB to get the unlock code, :But WAIT ! There' s MORE" When that has al come to pass you have to get the unlock token from OnePlus and while in Fastboot Mode , you have to flash the cust-unlock.bin file to unlock the bootloader. Afterwards you can load whatever you want in there. Unfortunately, the Nord N10 5G doesn't get a lot of support or updates which sucks because it's not a bad device on the right platform. I'm looking to try the A/B GSI Flash method since the device is Treble worthy. Good luck! Hope you fare better than I did my first go-around.
thanks for the response. So i got an unlocked phone into which i put my existing SIM card. went into the developer settings and enabled "allow bootloader to be unlocked." you are saying that to now actually unlock the bootloader i need a code from oneplus?
Yep. A big pain in the ass.

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