Hello. My phone only show 2G or 2.5G. Not 3G or 4G. Settings > Tethering & networks mobile networks > 2G/2G/4G. What can I do?
I have the same issue.
Even though the phone is 4G LTE it only ever says H on the top. The max speed i've seen is 3.5Mbps. It ranges 2G 2.5G never really reaches 3G or 4G speeds. I've updated, talked to reps on the phone, factory reset, and still super slow speed.
This phone was purchased brand new 3 years ago on eBay for a significant amount. Came in original packaging and everything with LG seals. Also ran AnTuTu official to test any fake possibility and everything said OK. The only thing I can think at this point, is that I tethered the phone years ago just to see if I could use with my computer, and since then I think possibly ATT has been limiting my speed. But everyone claims no limit...
Maybe some kind of weird software glitch? I am completely lost at this point.
xSeekTruthx said:
Even though the phone is 4G LTE it only ever says H on the top. The max speed i've seen is 3.5Mbps. It ranges 2G 2.5G never really reaches 3G or 4G speeds. I've updated, talked to reps on the phone, factory reset, and still super slow speed.
This phone was purchased brand new 3 years ago on eBay for a significant amount. Came in original packaging and everything with LG seals. Also ran AnTuTu official to test any fake possibility and everything said OK. The only thing I can think at this point, is that I tethered the phone years ago just to see if I could use with my computer, and since then I think possibly ATT has been limiting my speed. But everyone claims no limit...
Maybe some kind of weird software glitch? I am completely lost at this point.
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Do you use an custom ROM? For what purpose would be 4G for you? The signal can be provider and location dependent.
Also you should know MBps and Mbps differs from each other at the factor of 8 (1MBps = 8Mbps). Commonly used in Downloadspeeds is Mbps.
4G to have something better than the "2.5G Like" intermittent speeds.
Location is confirmed with 4G LTE.
IMEI info comes back as HSPDA+. From what I read, this is what ATT uses instead of 4G.... but either way it's a hell of a lot faster than 3 Mbps.
Only recently rooted to try to fix this issue. Was not getting real speeds even without rom. Still on stock rom. Recently did V10k stock rom update.
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- I see you mentioned MBps vs Mbps... yes I did mean 3.5 Mbps.
After doing more research, it seems never-msrp on eBay was selling new LG G2 D620 Minis that were manufactured incorrectly, or were part of some kind of high brow scheme. Multiple locations on the phone show the Quad core Snapdragon processor as MSM8226 (3G capable) not MSM8926 (4G LTE capable). The back cover and packaging on the phone all show 4G LTE, but the processor and board info all show MSM8226. Over 3 years, I had never connected to 4G since the straight talk adviser at the time said they were out of 4G sim chips, and I would only be on 3G. It wasn't until today, that I installed the new sim chip into my phone and did all this research. Looks like I got beat
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After doing more research, it seems never-msrp on eBay was selling new LG G2 D620 Minis that were manufactured incorrectly, or were part of some kind of high brow scheme. Multiple locations on the phone show the Quad core Snapdragon processor as MSM8226 (3G capable) not MSM8926 (4G LTE capable).
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AFAIK everything is in order, when I got g2mini it was advertised as LTE variant, and my carrier had cheaper non LTE model.
There also is Nvidia Tegra variant of our phones, which also has LTE. Moreover according to interwebz NFC is present only in LTE variants.
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AFAIK everything is in order, when I got g2mini it was advertised as LTE variant, and my carrier had cheaper non LTE model.
There also is Nvidia Tegra variant of our phones, which also has LTE. Moreover according to interwebz NFC is present only in LTE variants.
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Which makes my situation even weirder. I have NFC in my phone, but the non-LTE Snapdragon processor.
To make one final test, I'm ordering a freedompop sim to test the ATT 4G network in this area, borrowing an LTE enabled GPad (verified working with 4G).
xSeekTruthx said:
Which makes my situation even weirder. I have NFC in my phone, but the non-LTE Snapdragon processor.
To make one final test, I'm ordering a freedompop sim to test the ATT 4G network in this area, borrowing an LTE enabled GPad (verified working with 4G).
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There is no need for this, what is your phone version? It is on a sticker with imei, under battery.
cahiri0 said:
There is no need for this, what is your phone version? It is on a sticker with imei, under battery.
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I have a case that is insane to get off. But, D620.
I've also seen various locations on the software of my phone say D620 and D620r.
Is that the version you are speaking of?
xSeekTruthx said:
I have a case that is insane to get off. But, D620.
I've also seen various locations on the software of my phone say D620 and D620r.
Is that the version you are speaking of?
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D620/D620R should be MSM8926, and should have LTE. But I suspect you are in USA, this would point to a certain problem with LTE frequencies. As according to list of LTE networks, LG G2 mini LTE does not work on frequencies used by mobile operators in USA.
But then again I have data for LG G620R using MSM8926 SoC, because your reports MSM8226 it might be version for US market, but I failed at finding such version. Although I might be mistaken, it is kind of late in here, I'll take a look at it tomorrow morning.
Try to use devcheck (from the play store) to see exactly what you have
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D620/D620R should be MSM8926, and should have LTE. But I suspect you are in USA, this would point to a certain problem with LTE frequencies. As according to list of LTE networks, LG G2 mini LTE does not work on frequencies used by mobile operators in USA.
But then again I have data for LG G620R using MSM8926 SoC, because your reports MSM8226 it might be version for US market, but I failed at finding such version. Although I might be mistaken, it is kind of late in here, I'll take a look at it tomorrow morning.
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I more so have a feeling that this was a manufacture defect batch. Where they put the D618 board into the phone, and coded the information for a D620. The only place it says MSM8926 is in the Baseband version. All other CPU test and programs show MSM8226.
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I more so have a feeling that this was a manufacture defect batch. Where they put the D618 board into the phone, and coded the information for a D620. The only place it says MSM8926 is in the Baseband version. All other CPU test and programs show MSM8226.
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Take a picture of the back of your phone with the battery removed.
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Take a picture of the back of your phone with the battery removed.
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That's unnecessary. No thank you. And that's my only camera.
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Try to use devcheck (from the play store) to see exactly what you have
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devcheck shows the same as CPU X, LG D620
I believe the d620 is the non lte version while the 'r' varient is. At least that's what I understood when I bought mine..
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I believe the d620 is the non lte version while the 'r' varient is. At least that's what I understood when I bought mine..
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It still does not explain SoC in OP phone. As every database i checked reports D620 and d620r to be equipped with MSM8926, MSM8226 was in D610/D618 (single/dual SIM), and those models do not have LTE for sure.
This seems to be right, as Tegra variant model number is D625.
Also I was correct, LTE in g2mini works on frequencies that are not used by US mobile carriers.
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What APN is everyone using? The max speed I have seen on my galaxy s III is around 6mbps....never faster. I am currently using the "pta" apn for LTE devices (my other device is a galaxy note LTE).
Which apn should I be using to achieve the fastest speeds?
I have seen speeds go up to 9mbps on HSPA+ with my old galaxy nexus before, but I have never seen that with this device at the same exact location.
Is something preventing this phone from getting hspa+ speeds?
I would guess we are all using different APN as many many different networks in the world .
jje
JJEgan said:
I would guess we are all using different APN as many many different networks in the world .
jje
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Oops....my bad. I forgot to state that this is for AT&T in the US
Just measured 14 Mbit per sec with galaxy s 3 in Finland using hspa+ connection. Cannot say about lte though. Quite irrelevant comment though
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Oops....my bad. I forgot to state that this is for AT&T in the US
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What version you are using ... If you are using international model then the speeds you are getting is good and you will not get LTE. If you are using ATT LTE version then you are in the wrong forum, there's a separate forum for US variants.
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What version you are using ... If you are using international model then the speeds you are getting is good and you will not get LTE. If you are using ATT LTE version then you are in the wrong forum, there's a separate forum for US variants.
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I'm using the international version....the speeds still seem pretty slow compared to when I had my galaxy nexus that got 9mbps+ on hspa+....I get no where close to that now....
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I'm using the international version....the speeds still seem pretty slow compared to when I had my galaxy nexus that got 9mbps+ on hspa+....I get no where close to that now....
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I get about 4-6mbps on my international GS3 on AT&T. One positive for me is the speeds seem to be more consistent than my GS2 in the same area.
I get about 5-6mbs in the UK using the stock settings.
Generally in states and Canada you'll see slower 3g speeds on average compared to nam version and gn. The reason some speculate is because nam version and possibly gn as well support hspa rev8 as opposed to international only up to hspa rev6.
In real life that translates on average speed in my city of 3-6 mps with i9300 although sometimes I can reach 12 mps at certain locations and time of day.
My i747m gives me average 8-11 mps in GTA and sometimes I can reach 14 mps.
Using Fido on Rogers network both on ltemobile.apn.
They both show same or very simmilar asu level holding them side by side when testing.
North American model is also quicker to reach max speed and stay there when testing, while international kinda ease itself staring from 1 mps then gradually half way into test reaching maximum.
This also translates into tethering speed limits when hooking one to another or using laptop.
Note all this is about hspa 3g and not about lte since my provider does not have lte yet and my sim card is 3g.
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+3mbps on an EXCELLENT day, otherwise, it'll be around ~2mbps here in SoCal.
I've gotten about 9mb/s on H+ with Vodafone ireland
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Idan73 said:
Generally in states and Canada you'll see slower 3g speeds on average compared to nam version and gn. The reason some speculate is because nam version and possibly gn as well support hspa rev8 as opposed to international only up to hspa rev6.
In real life that translates on average speed in my city of 3-6 mps with i9300 although sometimes I can reach 12 mps at certain locations and time of day.
My i747m gives me average 8-11 mps in GTA and sometimes I can reach 14 mps.
Using Fido on Rogers network both on ltemobile.apn.
They both show same or very simmilar asu level holding them side by side when testing.
North American model is also quicker to reach max speed and stay there when testing, while international kinda ease itself staring from 1 mps then gradually half way into test reaching maximum.
This also translates into tethering speed limits when hooking one to another or using laptop.
Note all this is about hspa 3g and not about lte since my provider does not have lte yet and my sim card is 3g.
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That is interesting.....i wonder if that is really the case....
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Well i just disabled fastdormancy and retested and got...
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Not bad at all....this is the first time i got this speed with this phone.
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That should actually not happen... Fast dormancy is supposed to only kick in after some idle time.
At least that's what it does to my knowledge and what I've been able to piece together abut the functionality.
However I can confirm... on DXLF3 with FD I get 1.8Mbit/s Downstream while actually hitting 8Mbit/s with FastDormancy disabled.
I've confirmed the test several times in exactly the same location, always same result.
Well, seems that JuiceDefender's auto-toggle 2G/3G is finally gonna really pay of if Fast Dormancy is disabled
What modem works best with AT&T? Also see a lot about csc. Does that matter on AT&T?
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Hmm I just found something
very interesting.
Whenever the phone changes antenna or drops to 2G, upon restore of the HSPA+ connction I only get the same meagre 1.8 Mbit/s.
Rebooting the phone or toggling airplane mode will bring it back to 8 Mbit/s until the next time it changes.
From the behaviour it looks as if the phone could not go above the first hspa-stage when it's not a new connection. I'll try different modems tomorrow but I guess that's a software bug.
Additionally, altough I've disabled fd through the app and confirmed it being disabled in the database, the phone keeps going to RRC-State "idle" which is fast dormancy.
Interestingly enough my carrier is not even listed in the list sinc I'm on a custom rom.
Anybody knows a fix to either of both issues?
Especially the first is rather annoying.
I am on Fido in Canada. This is usually the speed I get.
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locking HSPA+
to all!
i just want to ask before on gingerbread phones we can setup the internet by going to this settings *#301279# and *#279301#
now on our gs3 this option is gone... do anybody have an idea how to lock HSPA+ on gs3???
thanks in advance!
What do you mean "lock"? The phone will automatically select the highest possible transfer speed in active usage and may fallback to a slower one during Idle to preserve power.
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What do you mean "lock"? The phone will automatically select the highest possible transfer speed in active usage and may fallback to a slower one during Idle to preserve power.
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Hmmm like before on my sg1 and galaxy w... also on my daughter's ace when i type on the phone dialer *#301279# there is an option to disabke hsupa and leave hsdpa open. And never have i seen the 3g logo on the location where im at before. Now on our sg3 i cant seem to access that switch anymore. So that's why im asking if there is an alternative code or a rom taht would give me that option.
Thanks for the feedback though
I live in Houston and have been able to pick up 4G since Friday. Ever since then I have noticed that my battery life has not been as good as it was before 4G went life. I used to be able to make it the full day without recharging but now im only getting a little over half a day.
This used to happen with my OG EVO thats why I always kept 4G off on that phone.
I have full 4G bars at my house but in downtown where I work its very spoty. I am guessing the battery drain is coming from the constant cycling between 3G and 4G.
Has anyone else seen a decrease in battery life after 4G went live?
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I live in Houston and have been able to pick up 4G since Friday. Ever since then I have noticed that my battery life has not been as good as it was before 4G went life. I used to be able to make it the full day without recharging but now im only getting a little over half a day.
This used to happen with my OG EVO thats why I always kept 4G off on that phone.
I have full 4G bars at my house but in downtown where I work its very spoty. I am guessing the battery drain is coming from the constant cycling between 3G and 4G.
Has anyone else seen a decrease in battery life after 4G went live?
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One thing I have noticed about mine (I don't have LTE yet, BTW), is that I don't have a switch like I used to with my EVO 3D. Is there a way to turn it off? I'd assume that if you're running LTE all day long, you're probably going to burn more battery than normal.
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One thing I have noticed about mine (I don't have LTE yet, BTW), is that I don't have a switch like I used to with my EVO 3D. Is there a way to turn it off? I'd assume that if you're running LTE all day long, you're probably going to burn more battery than normal.
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Settings, mobile network, change from CDMA/LTE to CDMA only
go in to settings, click on mobile network, then select cdma only if you only want 3G... I've found that you have to do that everytime you restart, for some reason it doesnt remember
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Settings, mobile network, change from CDMA/LTE to CDMA only
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iamkoza said:
go in to settings, click on mobile network, then select cdma only if you only want 3G... I've found that you have to do that everytime you restart, for some reason it doesnt remember
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So, it's not just as easy as it used to be. I'm sure they'll run out an update with a switch like they used to have. That'd be ideal. You would think they would've put it in that last update.
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So, it's not just as easy as it used to be. I'm sure they'll run out an update with a switch like they used to have. That'd be ideal. You would think they would've put it in that last update.
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I'd imagine they didn't include a toggle widget because they are selling this phone in areas where the 4G LTE rollout isn't even scheduled yet (i.e. beyond 2014).... if you give people a widget for 4G, it will just make them unhappy it doesnt work...
I was able to test out 4G in Kansas City for the first time yesterday for about 45 minutes and I thought it used less battery than 3G does. I was at a restaurant and while I was waiting for my food I ran speed tests (highest was about 10,000 kbps and my dad actually got around 9,000 kbps on wimax on his OG evo) and downloaded two 25MB games. It downloaded faster than my wifi... I left it on while I ate for about 30 min. and it was still at the same battery percentage when I started to use it again. It's probably draining a lot because of the cycling between 3G and 4G.
Sorry about the rambling.
It's definitely draining faster if its cycling between 3G and 4G.
It's been discussed before but the logical reason behind there being no actual toggle widget for LTE is because a. It doesn't drain as much as WiMAX did because the radio is built into the soc and not separate so shutting it off completely isn't so much of an issue to save battery. If you wanna save a little extra juice you can stop the radio from searching for an LTE signal through the settings. The other reason is LTE unlike WiMAX is being built to be your permanent connection unless you have to fallback to 3G. It will have better coverage and penetration. It's not a supplement like WiMAX was. Not saying WiMAX couldn't have been but based on the frequency it is on and the way it rolled out it just never happened that way.
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Also keep in mind that not all towers have LTE on them so your phone may have to use more juice to reach the spread out towers. It will get better with time as all the towers are scheduled to get LTE.
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4G is a much larger battery drain than 3G. Ask anyone with a Verizon phone. Using the LTE is obviously going to empty your battery faster.
The S4 SoC contains a programmable world modem and zero radios. That's straight from the Qualcomm literature that anyone can download.
That Qualcomm processors contain radios is an urban myth perpetuated by uninformed blog writers and has been going on for over two years.
The radio transceivers are separate and housed in separate chips (usually more than one transceiver per chip). When properly controlled, radios are basically shut down when not in use.
Because all voice is on CDMA, it's a reasonable expectation to lose a bit more power when talking and downloading via 4G at the same time.
SoraX64 said:
4G is a much larger battery drain than 3G. Ask anyone with a Verizon phone. Using the LTE is obviously going to empty your battery faster.
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4G on this phone will possibly drain your battery a little faster than 3G (i mean a little). The S4 has the LTE radio built in to the chip so it's pretty much powered all the time, but not active. The Thunderbolt(example Verizon phone) contains the S2 which doesn't have it built in so it requires a separate antenna which will require more space and more battery. Only cycling between the technologies will cause the battery to drain the most.
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4G on this phone will possibly drain your battery a little faster than 3G (i mean a little). The S4 has the LTE radio built in to the chip so it's pretty much powered all the time, but not active.
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No.
The S4 chip contains zero radios. Please see my post above yours.
The Thunderbolt(example Verizon phone) contains the S2 which doesn't have it built in so it requires a separate antenna which will require more space and more battery.
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In addition to a separate radio for LTE, the Thunderbolt needed an additional LTE modem, because the S2 in the Thunderbolt had only the CDMA and GSM modems built-in.
Liike all Qualcomm chips, it had ZERO radios built in.
Only cycling between the technologies will cause the battery to drain the most.
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Yep.
View attachment QU_SnapdragonS4_White_Paper_FNL_Rev6.pdf
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Modems, yes. ZERO radios. None. Nada. Zip.
The counting of the radios in the S4 shall be zero and zero shall be the counting of the radios in the S4.
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No.
The S4 chip contains zero radios. Please see my post above yours.
In addition to a separate radio for LTE, the Thunderbolt needed an additional LTE modem, because the S2 in the Thunderbolt had only the CDMA and GSM modems built-in.
Liike all Qualcomm chips, it had ZERO radios built in.
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Modems, yes. ZERO radios. None. Nada. Zip.
The counting of the radios in the S4 shall be zero and zero shall be the counting of the radios in the S4.
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Thanks for the links and clarification. However I think the point at hand is the S4 was designed with LTE in mind and helps conserve battery when compared to other SoC's on the market. I believe the Exynos is currently the only other LTE compliant SoC however if I'm not mistaken due to production Samsung only used them for the korean SIII. Regardless using 4G will cause more battery drain but compared to older phones the drain will not be as bad thanks to the S4. And if the phone is constantly switching connections it will drain even faster.
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Thanks for the links and clarification. However I think the point at hand is the S4 was designed with LTE in mind and helps conserve battery when compared to other SoC's on the market. I believe the Exynos is currently the only other LTE compliant SoC however if I'm not mistaken due to production Samsung only used them for the korean SIII. Regardless using 4G will cause more battery drain but compared to older phones the drain will not be as bad thanks to the S4. And if the phone is constantly switching connections it will drain even faster.
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Yes, the S4 is more power efficient for LTE because it doesn't require one more modem chip in addition to the radios.
My point in clarifying is that people are over-estimating the power budget by thinking that separate radios are not in play.
If trying to wrap one's arms around performance as a function of tech (something I completely support), it's important to not be misled by the unwashed news bloggers on the tech side.
As for the Korean SGS3 LTE model, it contains a separate LTE modem chip, at higher cost and complexity along with lower reliability and battery efficiency.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/24/3115367/south-korean-galaxy-s-iii-quad-core-lte
Expect to see Samsung processors with embedded LTE modems in the near future.
I don't understand why LTE would be a larger drain. If it is a newer technology, and the phone was built with the prime directive of utilizing a 4g network. Shouldn't it create optimal battery life when locked on "LTE only"?
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I don't understand why LTE would be a larger drain. If it is a newer technology, and the phone was built with the prime directive of utilizing a 4g network. Shouldn't it create optimal battery life when locked on "LTE only"?
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LTE only isn't an (easy) option, you still need the CDMA radio active for voice.
Someday, according to a statement by Dan Hesse, we will get SVLTE - simultaneous LTE voice and data. Then we can roll LTE only.
The target is get the LTE system power efficiency as high as possible.
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All of the HTC WiMax phones used the exact same Sequans radio SoC, built on older, power thirsty 65 nm chip technology.
Can't get details without a proper teardown (and I spent the morning this > < close to tearing mine down, but I couldn't get a good macro photography rig set up) we can't know the actual chip tech used for our radios. I suspect it's state of the current art, though.
EarlyMon said:
Yes, the S4 is more power efficient for LTE because it doesn't require one more modem chip in addition to the radios.
My point in clarifying is that people are over-estimating the power budget by thinking that separate radios are not in play.
If trying to wrap one's arms around performance as a function of tech (something I completely support), it's important to not be misled by the unwashed news bloggers on the tech side.
As for the Korean SGS3 LTE model, it contains a separate LTE modem chip, at higher cost and complexity along with lower reliability and battery efficiency.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/24/3115367/south-korean-galaxy-s-iii-quad-core-lte
Expect to see Samsung processors with embedded LTE modems in the near future.
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Ok, once again thanks for the clarification. It'll be interesting to see Qualcomm's answer to those chips since both Samsung and Nvidia will have quad-core SoC's with LTE modems in the near future.
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I don't understand why LTE would be a larger drain. If it is a newer technology, and the phone was built with the prime directive of utilizing a 4g network. Shouldn't it create optimal battery life when locked on "LTE only"?
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To add to EarlyMon's response. Another reason would be 4G requires more power because of the higher bandwidth. Even though the SoC is designed to support it by nature the higher bandwidth going through the phones has a higher power draw. It's just not as bad as it could be because the technology is evolving to accommodate it. Again e.g look at the Thunderbolt and a lot of early Verizon LTE phones. The technology wasn't quite there yet and the phones battery life was abysmal. As the technology evolves the battery life gets better.
Than what do they mean by "integrated" they constantly use it when referring to lte on the chip, also i read in one of those links that there lte chip Supports multiple lte 4g, 3g, & 2g frequencies so does that mean when sprint swiches lte over to the iden network frequency that are phones will be compatible via a software update?
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Than what do they mean by "integrated" they constantly use it when referring to lte on the chip, also i read in one of those links that there lte chip Supports multiple lte 4g, 3g, & 2g frequencies so does that mean when sprint swiches lte over to the iden network frequency that are phones will be compatible via a software update?
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Check out these two diagrams, first is the S4, second is the Tegra 3 -
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Note that big block, upper left, on the S4 - lots of mobile radio technology _support_ is integrated, that's largely or completely missing on other processors.
The world modem is programmable, so instead of lots of unique separate chips depending on the carrier, they just program that block as needed.
As for whether or not our LTE radios can handle the upcoming 800 MHz operations, I can't say (don't know) but here's what would be required - either a programmable radio, or a radio with the function there but unused, and if either of those are true, then the phone would have to be recertified by the FCC to work at the new frequency. And, it would have to work with the existing complement of antennas.
So, I suppose that a firmware update is possible, but I don't know.
As many of you already know, Note 3 is one of a few Verizon smartphones that has a Category 4 LTE modem, capable of delivering 150Mbps download speeds. Verizon's been rolling out new LTE layer on AWS or Band 4, and in many cities like NYC, LA, SF, Chicago, Atlanta, Detroit, Miami, to name a few users have been seeing speeds just under 100Mbps, but only using Category 3 devices like GS4, iPhone 5s, etc which are hardware limited at 100Mbps.
Since this is a Note 3 forum, it would be great to have this thread for reports on Verizon's Band 4 LTE, and especially Speedtest.net results which should be north of 100Mbps!
Similar thread exists in GS4 forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502716
And a much more in depth one over at HoFo: http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...ent-and-Verizon-sites-with-Remote-Radio-Units
This article also talked about Verizon's 2x20Mhz AWS LTE: http://gigaom.com/2013/10/14/watch-out-att-verizons-new-lte-network-monster-stirs-in-nyc/
On Galaxy phones it should be easy to access ServiceMode via dial codes, which will allow you to monitor the Band you're connected to, and even force the certain frequency. I don't own Note 3, but afaik Verizon usually tries to block out these codes, although there used to be an app in Play Store that would dial the codes for you (Samsung ServiceMode or Sammy codes)
*#0011# General Debug screen
*#2263# Allows you to force any frequency on your phone
*#27663368378# Main screen
There are a few other codes, please post your findings!
That's pretty neat. Thanks for the info!
I wonder what this'll mean for Verizon customers currently grandfathered into the unlimited 4G LTE data plans and if there's any plans of discontinuing that service.
I'll have to check this out once I head back to the city.
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That's pretty neat. Thanks for the info!
I wonder what this'll mean for Verizon customers currently grandfathered into the unlimited 4G LTE data plans and if there's any plans of discontinuing that service.
I'll have to check this out once I head back to the city.
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Unlimited users still get to access this LTE channel with capable device like Note 3.
This is what users are seeing on GS4, but remember GS4 is capable of only 100Mbps on the downlink, so that's the limiting factor. Note 3 can push 150Mbps!
I have read conflicting reports, pretty sure its still disabled on our firmware. One guy said he tried in his AWS enabled area and it wasnt recieving it, still same speed as MI9 and others thought they might since they were seeing speeds of like 60 down.
I'm not in one of those areas and lucky to see 30 down on a good day, so I can't tell you definitively either way.
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I have read conflicting reports, pretty sure its still disabled on our firmware. One guy said he tried in his AWS enabled area and it wasnt recieving it, still same speed as MI9 and others thought they might since they were seeing speeds of like 60 down.
I'm not in one of those areas and lucky to see 30 down on a good day, so I can't tell you definitively either way.
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Have you tried the Play Store apps to get into ServiceMode?
There are a few of them, I use this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amoopa.sammysmode&hl=en
There seems to be a similar free one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kabasoft.util.servicemodeshortcut&hl=en
*#0011# General Debug screen
*#2263# Allows you to force any frequency on your phone
*#197328640# Main screen
Out of those 3 codes only *#0011# General Debug screen worked for me. Hmm are there any other additional steps I have to take to be able to access those other codes?
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Have you tried the Play Store apps to get into ServiceMode?
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No, as I said I dont live in a AWS area.
Here was the post though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47190780&postcount=108
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I've confirmed it twice that it's not in the update, as we have both Tmo and VZ LTE in Band 4 here. VZ speeds stayed the same post update and my TMO Sim will only go to H+ vs my VZ-GS4 which goes up to LTE on the TMO SIM.
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*#0011# General Debug screen
*#2263# Allows you to force any frequency on your phone
*#197328640# Main screen
Out of those 3 codes only *#0011# General Debug screen worked for me. Hmm are there any other additional steps I have to take to be able to access those other codes?
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Post screenshot of *#0011# and I'll explain how to analyze it.
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Post screenshot of *#0011# and I'll explain how to analyze it.
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Ok, so you're looking at the first line where it says LTE Band. Band 13 is the original LTE layer in 700Mhz spectrum.
PLMN: 311-480 is the country/network code, unique to Verizon Wireless.
Bandwidth is the amount of spectrum they're using. Band 13 is 10Mhz nationwide, capable of 73.6Mbps peak speeds. Their Band 4 is in many markets 20Mhz capable of 150Mbps peak speeds!
RSRP is "reference signal receive power" -44dBm being amazing, and -140dBm you're about to drop connection.
SNR is "signal to noise ratio" the higher the better. 30dB is perfect.
RSRQ is "reference signal receive quality" -3dBm being amazing and -19dBm terrible.
PA state displays the new envelope tracking (ET) feature only Note 3 has, it saves battery and should improve upload, etc....
You really should be watching the first line and try to spot "BAND 4" and the third line showing you the BW (bandwidth). Should be between 10Mhz and 20Mhz depending on the market. Please state your market when you post screenshots, it will really help me figure out which areas are getting this massive capacity!
Hope this helps!
So do you know why I can't access those codes?
*#2263# Allows you to force any frequency on your phone
*#197328640# Main screen
I really wanna try to enable that band 4 option
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So do you know why I can't access those codes?
*#2263# Allows you to force any frequency on your phone
*#197328640# Main screen
I really wanna try to enable that band 4 option
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Ever since HTC Thunderbolt which had a similar ServiceMenu, Verizon got paranoid about giving users too much low level control, and started requesting OEMs to block these codes from the final shipping ROMs. T-Mobile variant for instance has all of the ServiceMode pages enabled. So the ServiceMode.apk is still there, but it isn't listening dialer any more. You can try those apps I've posted above, they should get you to the service mode.
There is also *#27663368378# Which is the actual root of the app. Also, certain ROMs enable this. It's really enabling it in the build.prop. ServiceMode is baked into the TW framework, so ROM must be TW based.
milan03 said:
Ever since HTC Thunderbolt which had a similar ServiceMenu, Verizon got paranoid about giving users too much low level control, and started requesting OEMs to block these codes from the final shipping ROMs. T-Mobile variant for instance has all of the ServiceMode pages enabled. So the ServiceMode.apk is still there, but it isn't listening dialer any more. You can try those apps I've posted above, they should get you to the service mode.
There is also *#27663368378# Which is the actual root of the app. Also, certain ROMs enable this. It's really enabling it in the build.prop. ServiceMode is baked into the TW framework, so ROM must be TW based.
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After using *#27663368378# I navigated thru the menu and I got to this screen but after enabling it and rebooting the phone my band was still at 13
None if these codes are doing anything for me on beans rom. Type em in and all it does is dial.
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Can anyone else with the Verizon Developer Edition of the Note 3 utilize any of these apps? Both say they're unsupported on my device.
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Im trying to do that 2766 long string that ends with the pound nothings happening am I supposed to hit something after that dialer just tries to make a call no menu comes up
** just tried the service mode shortcut app 2nd link doesnt work says not supported when you click it in the app
Well I just tried to buy the app from the 1st link and it says my Note 3 isnt supported and wont let me download it. Howd you get into the menu? The apk for servicemode is showing in Titanium and not frozen dont know why it wont open
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After using *#27663368378# I navigated thru the menu and I got to this screen but after enabling it and rebooting the phone my band was still at 13
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Ah finally! After the reboot, do you have Band 4 ENABLED? Did it stick? Which ROM are you on and what metro area are you in?
Not all areas have Band 4 enabled. NYC, LA, SF, Chicago, Atlanta, Miami, but also Lexington, KY, etc... Try testing it in the busiest parts of your city, since Verizon is deploying there first, to alleviate the congestion.
Hi Milan, nice seeing you here, read a lot of your posts over at HoFo and S4GRU.
YES!!! AWS live in Philadelphia!!! I have kept up with the HoFo thread and haven't heard of any sighting in Philly yet.
What I did was first enabled B4 like above and then went into UE setting, settings, protocol, NAS, network control, band selection, and under LTE preference chose B4 to force it. Interesting enough there is no B13 option in there.
I have screenshots of service mode, was speed test, and b13 speed test. Too bad signal on AWS sucks so I can't really use it. I guess this is because Verizon had the lowest number of towers here. My speed test is quite poor but compared to B13 in Philly, otherwise known as the slowest network in Philly other than Verizon CDMA, pretty much anything is improvement.
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Hi Milan, nice seeing you here, read a lot of your posts over at HoFo and S4GRU.
YES!!! AWS live in Philadelphia!!! I have kept up with the HoFo thread and haven't heard of any sighting in Philly yet.
What I did was first enabled B4 like above and then went into UE setting, settings, protocol, NAS, network control, band selection, and under LTE preference chose B4 to force it. Interesting enough there is no B13 option in there.
I have screenshots of service mode, was speed test, and b13 speed test. Too bad signal on AWS sucks so I can't really use it. I guess this is because Verizon had the lowest number of towers here. My speed test is quite poor but compared to B13 in Philly, otherwise known as the slowest network in Philly other than Verizon CDMA, pretty much anything is improvement.
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Hey this is awesome news!!! Congrats! They seem to be running another 10Mhz FDD LTE in the AWS. EARFCN value of 2100 corresponds to B block AWS license they've acquired from SpectrumCo cable companies! So you should be having another 73.6Mbps channel which should alleviate the congestion!
Have you tried testing in a busy areas of Philly during the Off-Peak hours just to see if the capacity is there? Don't forget to put Network Selection back to "Automatic", otherwise you won't be receiving any calls, just LTE Data
Thank you for posting a short guide on how to properly enable B4 on Note 3!
Again how are you guys even getting into the service mode? Both of those apps and none of the codes seem to work what am I doing wrong here?
I did some digging and have been getting mixed results, can someone give me a more definitive answer about this phone working on ATT, or any US carrier for that matter?
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I did some digging and have been getting mixed results, can someone give me a more definitive answer about this phone working on ATT, or any US carrier for that matter?
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We don't know yet. AFAIK we only know the bands of the Indian version and those aren't compatible with AT&T US.
Today it was announced that there was going to be an American(continent) version and it could have some of the bands used by AT&T US.
Would be great if we can have a version compatible with US carriers. I have t-mobile and this would be a good deal of a phone if I can use it here.
I am also seeing mixed results some sights are saying the global version will work on T-Mobile. Wish I could get a copy of confirmation somewhere.
I have the same question. I just assumed it would work on T-Mobile. According to the specs, it may not. I did note that they do say it works on AT&T....
https://photos.smugmug.com/Forum-Share/Ebay-Pictures/i-G2bwB9f/0/eccbfaef/X2/Poco F1-X2.jpg
Not a huge deal. I only want to play with it and WiFi is fine for me.
cas8180 said:
I am also seeing mixed results some sights are saying the global version will work on T-Mobile. Wish I could get a copy of confirmation somewhere.
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Mine was shipped and is due to arrive on Thursday. I'm on T-Mobile so I'll post on Thursday.
Mike02z said:
Mine was shipped and is due to arrive on Thursday. I'm on T-Mobile so I'll post on Thursday.
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I'm waiting to know. I could probably travel to US for work and would like to know if I can use this phone there.
senthilrameshjv said:
I'm waiting to know. I could probably travel to US for work and would like to know if I can use this phone there.
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I'll report back as soon as I get it.
So this YouTuber lives in Orlando, FL and is getting LTE through ATT and confirmed it also with T-Mobile. Again he is in Florida so not sure this could apply to certain bands in say NY which I live in.
adibeckett said:
So this YouTuber lives in Orlando, FL and is getting LTE through ATT and confirmed it also with T-Mobile. Again he is in Florida so not sure this could apply to certain bands in say NY which I live in.
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That's really interesting. Isn't there an app that shows what bands your phone is currently on or available? I just might get this baby if the comments are indeed true that "Xiaomi probably didn't list all of the supported bands".
At the moment isnt present b2 and b4 for lte
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At the moment isnt present b2 and b4 for lteView attachment 4588566
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where did you get it from? are you from mexico?
AT&T 4G HSPA and HSPA+ use 850Mhz(Band 5) and 1900Mhz(Band 2) bands but it all depends on area if they own a license. LTE uses Band 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz) currently.
Will it work yes but it is missing LTE bands 2, 4, 17 for At&t
It probably will mostly have 3g service unless band 5 is strong in your area
This is what the spec's for the global version say.
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500)
I'm really interested in the Pocophone f1 myself but I doubt that network service will anything great...
It wouldn't matter to me I mostly use wifi but if you depend on LTE for your main network use this phone probably isn't for you unless there is some way to turn on the bands you need
Royalfox said:
where did you get it from? are you from mexico?
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No, that pic sended to me an spanish guy with a pocophone f1. Im from Argentina. I wanted to buy the phone but after see that i doubt
Another YouTuber from San Francisco who found that ATT and T-Mobile is working. ****ty speeds and not sure if its LTE but at least its there? He will do more speed tests outside.
Really 50/50 on whether I will get this phone or not.
So I’m in Chicago, and received the phone yesterday. Previous phone was a LGV20 on Nougat. Would be happy to share my impressions, but as to network coverage – I’m on TMo. The top of the phone shows good connectivity and 4G, but Speedtest indicates the phone is on TMo’s 3G (as expected). I ran Speedtest a few times, and am consistently getting 10 Mbps down, and 4 or so up. Sometimes I get 12 down, sometimes 8…. right around 10. Enough that Spotify and YouTube stream just fine, and Google maps works just fine. Probably insufficient if you’re a heavy streamer though. Any questions, fell free to ask.
kbagrows said:
So I’m in Chicago, and received the phone yesterday. Previous phone was a LGV20 on Nougat. Would be happy to share my impressions, but as to network coverage – I’m on TMo. The top of the phone shows good connectivity and 4G, but Speedtest indicates the phone is on TMo’s 3G (as expected). I ran Speedtest a few times, and am consistently getting 10 Mbps down, and 4 or so up. Sometimes I get 12 down, sometimes 8…. right around 10. Enough that Spotify and YouTube stream just fine, and Google maps works just fine. Probably insufficient if you’re a heavy streamer though. Any questions, fell free to ask.
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can you download the LTE discovery app and see which band you are connected to?
are you a tinkerer? if you are and can unlock the bootloader, root it and try enabling LTE bands via QPST that would be great.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/help/poco-f1-lte-bands-unlock-t3835467
if not, then please ignore my post :highfive:
kbagrows said:
So I’m in Chicago, and received the phone yesterday. Previous phone was a LGV20 on Nougat. Would be happy to share my impressions, but as to network coverage – I’m on TMo. The top of the phone shows good connectivity and 4G, but Speedtest indicates the phone is on TMo’s 3G (as expected). I ran Speedtest a few times, and am consistently getting 10 Mbps down, and 4 or so up. Sometimes I get 12 down, sometimes 8…. right around 10. Enou gh that Spotify and YouTube stream just fine, and Google maps works just fine. Probably insufficient if you’re a heavy streamer though. Any questions, fell free to ask.
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Where did you buy your phone?
munchy_cool said:
can you download the LTE discovery app and see which band you are connected to?
are you a tinkerer? if you are and can unlock the bootloader, root it and try enabling LTE bands via QPST that would be great.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/help/poco-f1-lte-bands-unlock-t3835467
if not, then please ignore my post :highfive:
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Downloaded the app- no LTE. Full bars of HSPA+ though. Call level 4. LTE band "unknown" ... of course it is. Sorry, but I don't see info regarding the specific band I'm on.
Used to tinker the hell our of my HTC HD2 with all sorts of ROMS, etc. How I got started on xda! Wonder if any of you remember that one, or if you're all too young. Anyway, those days are over. The phone is buttery smooth, and so long as my current streaming requirements are met, I'm gonna wait for someone else to tinker with this thing. Sorry! But, happy to answer any other questions.
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Where did you buy your phone?
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Ebay. Global version. Selller: never-msrp. I've bought a few things from them in the past, always had a good experience. Combined a good price with a 15% eBay coupon for a damn good deal. Cheers.
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Downloaded the app- no LTE. Full bars of HSPA+ though. Call level 4. LTE band "unknown" ... of course it is. Sorry, but I don't see info regarding the specific band I'm on.
Used to tinker the hell our of my HTC HD2 with all sorts of ROMS, etc. How I got started on xda! Wonder if any of you remember that one, or if you're all too young. Anyway, those days are over. The phone is buttery smooth, and so long as my current streaming requirements are met, I'm gonna wait for someone else to tinker with this thing. Sorry! But, happy to answer any other questions.
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Ebay. Global version. Selller: never-msrp. I've bought a few things from them in the past, always had a good experience. Combined a good price with a 15% eBay coupon for a damn good deal. Cheers.
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Maybe this is stupid but did you enable location for LTE discovery?
Has anyone been able to get 5G support in the USA with Xperia 1 lV XQ-CT72 ?
I have tried T-Mobile and also AT&T on mine and the best I can do is "LTE+" on T-Mobile
On AT&T it says only LTE, yet I am getting the same DL speeds as I did wit T-Mobile around 84mb
kuau said:
Has anyone been able to get 5G support in the USA with Xperia 1 lV XQ-CT72 ?
I have tried T-Mobile and also AT&T on mine and the best I can do is "LTE+" on T-Mobile
On AT&T it says only LTE, yet I am getting the same DL speeds as I did wit T-Mobile around 84mb
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Go into carrier band settings and disable dual Sim mode,
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Go into carrier band settings and disable dual Sim mode,
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Thanks yet I don't see where to disable dual sim mode, In "About Phone" Sim Status sin slot 2 shows not available.,
kuau said:
Thanks yet I don't see where to disable dual sim mode, In "About Phone" Sim Status sin slot 2 shows not available.,
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Download voWiFi go to Phone Info and when you see "Enable DSDS" Toggle it off
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Download voWiFi go to Phone Info and when you see "Enable DSDS" Toggle it off
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Done I did that and rebooted the phone anything else I need to do
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Done I did that and rebooted the phone anything else I need to do
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Check if you have NR selected in Sim Mode
That is 5G, on Reddit people have tried it and they say it's working
Also check you have the SIM card in Primary slot
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That is 5G, on Reddit people have tried it and they say it's working
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Thanks for your help. Can yo send me the link to the reddit thread discussion this
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Thanks for your help. Can yo send me the link to the reddit thread discussion this
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https://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/wt7ecm/_/il6qthu
Thanks again I was able to figure it out on my own here In the USA my Xperia now shows 5G with AT&T I’m not sure if I am actually getting 5G speeds though
With a good connection what should my DL speeds be approximately?
Lastly I assume when the US variant starts shipping here in the States it will probably not support Wi-Fi calling either
Hard to tell really, depends on a type of network, congestion, signal quality.........and server speed on the other side.
Its clear to me that with the international version of this phone in the USA you don't get 5g speed
I did a test I ran SpeedTest using the same SIM card. One on my iPhone and got over 150mp transfer, I then put there same SIM card in my Xperia 1 IV device and even though it shows "5G"Service I am getting half the speed approximately 70mp download. So it's still running in LTE mode... Vert frustrating
But that doesn't tell that it's LTE. 5G can be worse then LTE. Unless you can lock on a specific cell on a certain tower and do proper testing which can also give veeeery different results, it's hard to tell what you are actually using. There are some apps that kinda tell you network info but it is not the same as proper testing app with all the details and ability to lock on to a specific cell. Been doing that with Huawei equipment recently and......well, very time consuming process and very frustrating vhen the same phone on the same spot can lock on some frequency but can't on another for the same technology on the same tower. And speed was anything from 50-500 MB, depends whether it was low band or high band and 735347 factors. And repeating the test right after can produce very different results.
Unless you try that 20 times with each phone on the same spot and preferably in hours of lower congestion and then have some consistency in results that xperia is always twice slower it might be just coincidence.
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But that doesn't tell that it's LTE. 5G can be worse then LTE. Unless you can lock on a specific cell on a certain tower and do proper testing which can also give veeeery different results, it's hard to tell what you are actually using. There are some apps that kinda tell you network info but it is not the same as proper testing app with all the details and ability to lock on to a specific cell. Been doing that with Huawei equipment recently and......well, very time consuming process and very frustrating vhen the same phone on the same spot can lock on some frequency but can't on another for the same technology on the same tower. And speed was anything from 50-500 MB, depends whether it was low band or high band and 735347 factors. And repeating the test right after can produce very different results.
Unless you try that 20 times with each phone on the same spot and preferably in hours of lower congestion and then have some consistency in results that xperia is always twice slower it might be just coincidence.
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I live in a rural area where there is only one tower. I did the test one after another. First with the iPhone using Speed Test from Ookia and then pulled the SIM card out and put it in the Xperia, using the same app on the Xperia I experienced much slower speeds and I did run the test multiple times.
I am in Australia, before this trick I got a maximum of 200mbs after figuring this out I am getting 300 - 800mb so it seems it's working on my end
have too be careful what actually being displayed for 5G service icon , I have found on the XQ-CT72 it will show 5g icon, but with LTE dicovery app, it shows its only connected to 2 different LTE bands, the download speeds are horrible like 10mbps, with the USA model pixel 6 pro it shows 5g and LTE App shows its connected to 5G NSA71 which is the true "5g" band and download speeds are 75-100 mbps, so I returned my 1 IV and see what happens with the USA model after it been out a while., then maybe I`ll buy that one, until now pixel 6 pro for now.
kuau said:
Has anyone been able to get 5G support in the USA with Xperia 1 lV XQ-CT72 ?
I have tried T-Mobile and also AT&T on mine and the best I can do is "LTE+" on T-Mobile
On AT&T it says only LTE, yet I am getting the same DL speeds as I did wit T-Mobile around 84mb
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Are folks checking if 5G is ACTUALLY being broadcast in their areas? Just because we see advertising on TV for 5g or a phone has 5g capability (have to check bands but some versions of this phone do have the 5g bands for the US) or a phone displays 5g in status bar (lol) but in reality is getting 4g (aka LTE). Even all typical LTE bands are not all broadcast in any given area e.g in my area Tmobile has 4 and 2 but nothing else and AT&T has 2 and 17 and nothing else. Too many times I see people endlessly discussing these 4g/5G issues without looking at the actual towers and what they are sending out in their respective areas.
2015Ducatimulti said:
have too be careful what actually being displayed for 5G service icon , I have found on the XQ-CT72 it will show 5g icon, but with LTE dicovery app, it shows its only connected to 2 different LTE bands, the download speeds are horrible like 10mbps, with the USA model pixel 6 pro it shows 5g and LTE App shows its connected to 5G NSA71 which is the true "5g" band and download speeds are 75-100 mbps, so I returned my 1 IV and see what happens with the USA model after it been out a while., then maybe I`ll buy that one, until now pixel 6 pro for now.
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You have to also check what bands are actually being broadcast by the towers in your area of usage. Further the carriers go loose with the way what they call 5g (marketing). Also bands like 66 extended LTE is just seen in a couple of spots in a general large area like 30 x 30 sq miles where I am. At least that is what I have seen.