I did some digging and have been getting mixed results, can someone give me a more definitive answer about this phone working on ATT, or any US carrier for that matter?
DeimosPhobos said:
I did some digging and have been getting mixed results, can someone give me a more definitive answer about this phone working on ATT, or any US carrier for that matter?
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We don't know yet. AFAIK we only know the bands of the Indian version and those aren't compatible with AT&T US.
Today it was announced that there was going to be an American(continent) version and it could have some of the bands used by AT&T US.
Would be great if we can have a version compatible with US carriers. I have t-mobile and this would be a good deal of a phone if I can use it here.
I am also seeing mixed results some sights are saying the global version will work on T-Mobile. Wish I could get a copy of confirmation somewhere.
I have the same question. I just assumed it would work on T-Mobile. According to the specs, it may not. I did note that they do say it works on AT&T....
https://photos.smugmug.com/Forum-Share/Ebay-Pictures/i-G2bwB9f/0/eccbfaef/X2/Poco F1-X2.jpg
Not a huge deal. I only want to play with it and WiFi is fine for me.
cas8180 said:
I am also seeing mixed results some sights are saying the global version will work on T-Mobile. Wish I could get a copy of confirmation somewhere.
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Mine was shipped and is due to arrive on Thursday. I'm on T-Mobile so I'll post on Thursday.
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Mine was shipped and is due to arrive on Thursday. I'm on T-Mobile so I'll post on Thursday.
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I'm waiting to know. I could probably travel to US for work and would like to know if I can use this phone there.
senthilrameshjv said:
I'm waiting to know. I could probably travel to US for work and would like to know if I can use this phone there.
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I'll report back as soon as I get it.
So this YouTuber lives in Orlando, FL and is getting LTE through ATT and confirmed it also with T-Mobile. Again he is in Florida so not sure this could apply to certain bands in say NY which I live in.
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So this YouTuber lives in Orlando, FL and is getting LTE through ATT and confirmed it also with T-Mobile. Again he is in Florida so not sure this could apply to certain bands in say NY which I live in.
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That's really interesting. Isn't there an app that shows what bands your phone is currently on or available? I just might get this baby if the comments are indeed true that "Xiaomi probably didn't list all of the supported bands".
At the moment isnt present b2 and b4 for lte
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At the moment isnt present b2 and b4 for lteView attachment 4588566
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where did you get it from? are you from mexico?
AT&T 4G HSPA and HSPA+ use 850Mhz(Band 5) and 1900Mhz(Band 2) bands but it all depends on area if they own a license. LTE uses Band 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz) currently.
Will it work yes but it is missing LTE bands 2, 4, 17 for At&t
It probably will mostly have 3g service unless band 5 is strong in your area
This is what the spec's for the global version say.
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500)
I'm really interested in the Pocophone f1 myself but I doubt that network service will anything great...
It wouldn't matter to me I mostly use wifi but if you depend on LTE for your main network use this phone probably isn't for you unless there is some way to turn on the bands you need
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where did you get it from? are you from mexico?
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No, that pic sended to me an spanish guy with a pocophone f1. Im from Argentina. I wanted to buy the phone but after see that i doubt
Another YouTuber from San Francisco who found that ATT and T-Mobile is working. ****ty speeds and not sure if its LTE but at least its there? He will do more speed tests outside.
Really 50/50 on whether I will get this phone or not.
So I’m in Chicago, and received the phone yesterday. Previous phone was a LGV20 on Nougat. Would be happy to share my impressions, but as to network coverage – I’m on TMo. The top of the phone shows good connectivity and 4G, but Speedtest indicates the phone is on TMo’s 3G (as expected). I ran Speedtest a few times, and am consistently getting 10 Mbps down, and 4 or so up. Sometimes I get 12 down, sometimes 8…. right around 10. Enough that Spotify and YouTube stream just fine, and Google maps works just fine. Probably insufficient if you’re a heavy streamer though. Any questions, fell free to ask.
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So I’m in Chicago, and received the phone yesterday. Previous phone was a LGV20 on Nougat. Would be happy to share my impressions, but as to network coverage – I’m on TMo. The top of the phone shows good connectivity and 4G, but Speedtest indicates the phone is on TMo’s 3G (as expected). I ran Speedtest a few times, and am consistently getting 10 Mbps down, and 4 or so up. Sometimes I get 12 down, sometimes 8…. right around 10. Enough that Spotify and YouTube stream just fine, and Google maps works just fine. Probably insufficient if you’re a heavy streamer though. Any questions, fell free to ask.
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can you download the LTE discovery app and see which band you are connected to?
are you a tinkerer? if you are and can unlock the bootloader, root it and try enabling LTE bands via QPST that would be great.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/help/poco-f1-lte-bands-unlock-t3835467
if not, then please ignore my post :highfive:
kbagrows said:
So I’m in Chicago, and received the phone yesterday. Previous phone was a LGV20 on Nougat. Would be happy to share my impressions, but as to network coverage – I’m on TMo. The top of the phone shows good connectivity and 4G, but Speedtest indicates the phone is on TMo’s 3G (as expected). I ran Speedtest a few times, and am consistently getting 10 Mbps down, and 4 or so up. Sometimes I get 12 down, sometimes 8…. right around 10. Enou gh that Spotify and YouTube stream just fine, and Google maps works just fine. Probably insufficient if you’re a heavy streamer though. Any questions, fell free to ask.
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Where did you buy your phone?
munchy_cool said:
can you download the LTE discovery app and see which band you are connected to?
are you a tinkerer? if you are and can unlock the bootloader, root it and try enabling LTE bands via QPST that would be great.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/help/poco-f1-lte-bands-unlock-t3835467
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Downloaded the app- no LTE. Full bars of HSPA+ though. Call level 4. LTE band "unknown" ... of course it is. Sorry, but I don't see info regarding the specific band I'm on.
Used to tinker the hell our of my HTC HD2 with all sorts of ROMS, etc. How I got started on xda! Wonder if any of you remember that one, or if you're all too young. Anyway, those days are over. The phone is buttery smooth, and so long as my current streaming requirements are met, I'm gonna wait for someone else to tinker with this thing. Sorry! But, happy to answer any other questions.
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Where did you buy your phone?
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Ebay. Global version. Selller: never-msrp. I've bought a few things from them in the past, always had a good experience. Combined a good price with a 15% eBay coupon for a damn good deal. Cheers.
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Downloaded the app- no LTE. Full bars of HSPA+ though. Call level 4. LTE band "unknown" ... of course it is. Sorry, but I don't see info regarding the specific band I'm on.
Used to tinker the hell our of my HTC HD2 with all sorts of ROMS, etc. How I got started on xda! Wonder if any of you remember that one, or if you're all too young. Anyway, those days are over. The phone is buttery smooth, and so long as my current streaming requirements are met, I'm gonna wait for someone else to tinker with this thing. Sorry! But, happy to answer any other questions.
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Ebay. Global version. Selller: never-msrp. I've bought a few things from them in the past, always had a good experience. Combined a good price with a 15% eBay coupon for a damn good deal. Cheers.
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Maybe this is stupid but did you enable location for LTE discovery?
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Just picked up a note on ebay, excited to get it. However since I live in what is only the 5th largest city in the US, ATT obviously sees no reason to have LTE here. Anyone have any ideas of how I would check if LTE is working? If I have ATT insurance will it cover this phone?
In unrelated note are ICS roms pretty stable? I'd prefer to jump to that but am not an early rom adopter.
If its an ATT phone you bought off Ebay then it should just work, the only way you can see if its even an option is to go into your mobile networks settings and switch it to GSM/HSPA/LTE mode, (probably better for you to switch it to GSM/HSPA until you do have an LTE area.
If you bought the International phone, I don't think LTE is even an option (from what i've read).
As for warranty related questions I couldn't help ya with that.
If it's an AT&T phone it says (edit)4GLTE on GB on the status bar when you are connected to an LTE network.
For warranty information I would contact AT&T. I'm about to drop my warranty through AT&T and go somewhere else because $10 a month and then a $200 deductible for the phone is crappy (I didn't realize this until after I got the insurance when purchasing the phone because I was too excited just to get the phone). Some other places (still reading reviews) offer you to pay a one time fee for however many years and then the dedictible, which is not $200.
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If it's an AT&T phone it says 4G on GB on the status bar when you are connected to an LTE network.
For warranty information I would contact AT&T. I'm about to drop my warranty through AT&T and go somewhere else because $10 a month and then a $200 deductible for the phone is crappy (I didn't realize this until after I got the insurance when purchasing the phone because I was too excited just to get the phone). Some other places (still reading reviews) offer you to pay a one time fee for however many years and then the dedictible, which is not $200.
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errr......4G is just HSPA+......its not LTE....=....you will need a LTE enabled plan.....
don't exactly remember what the icon for ATT is.....but it would say LTE on the icon (either 4GLTE or just LTE)...if you don;t see that....you are not on LTE
i've tested in Raleigh NC 32mbps down and 7 mbps up... Freaking Fast!!!!!!!!
Ambrosios said:
errr......4G is just HSPA+......its not LTE....=....you will need a LTE enabled plan.....
don't exactly remember what the icon for ATT is.....but it would say LTE on the icon (either 4GLTE or just LTE)...if you don;t see that....you are not on LTE
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Icon looks like the attached for lte.
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Just picked up a note on ebay, excited to get it. However since I live in what is only the 5th largest city in the US, ATT obviously sees no reason to have LTE here. Anyone have any ideas of how I would check if LTE is working? If I have ATT insurance will it cover this phone?
In unrelated note are ICS roms pretty stable? I'd prefer to jump to that but am not an early rom adopter.
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just a side note, which city are you in?
which version of note are you using? 7000? or 717?
the international note (SGH-7000) is not LTE compatible......
you may want to ask ATT about the insurance.....if u have a ATT note.....i am pretty sure they will cover it....(probably will be have deductible fee)....if its an International note...you are out of luck....
for LTE...you will need an LTE enabled plan......just call ATT to enable it......i think there is no additional charge....(i could be wrong)
Speedtest result in Dallas...click for bigger
43Mbps down, 13Mbps up
From what I know you need a 4G/LTE plan and Sim the old blazing 3g sum won't pick up LTE
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LTE speeds vary widely for me. In Alexandria, VA, where I would think were a large number of LTE users I was getting the speeds in the first pic. In Oklahoma City, where I was surprised to see LTE at all, I was getting the slower speeds in the second pic.
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Ambrosios said:
just a side note, which city are you in?
which version of note are you using? 7000? or 717?
the international note (SGH-7000) is not LTE compatible......
you may want to ask ATT about the insurance.....if u have a ATT note.....i am pretty sure they will cover it....(probably will be have deductible fee)....if its an International note...you are out of luck....
for LTE...you will need an LTE enabled plan......just call ATT to enable it......i think there is no additional charge....(i could be wrong)
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I believe he's referring to the grand City of Brotherly Love, Philadelphia.
There is no way to test LTE without being in an LTE area, but there a few locations a couple hours North and South on 95 if you really want to know if it's working.
With the AT&T Note, you have to have the newest generation SIM card otherwise you won't get HSPA data either.
Ambrosios said:
errr......4G is just HSPA+......its not LTE....=....you will need a LTE enabled plan.....
don't exactly remember what the icon for ATT is.....but it would say LTE on the icon (either 4GLTE or just LTE)...if you don;t see that....you are not on LTE
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Ha, I forgot the LTE under the icon. Fixed. Thanks.
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So is the hspa+ sim, same as LTE? Do I have to call att to activate LTE, I should get a chance to head to an LTE area pretty soon.
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So is the hspa+ sim, same as LTE? Do I have to call att to activate LTE, I should get a chance to head to an LTE area pretty soon.
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Your SIM card needs to have LTE provisioning enabled on it for it to authenticate with the LTE network properly (allowing you to use it). Might be easier to go to a local AT&T store and have them give you a new SIM and make sure they enable LTE on your data plan for that particular SIM.
Ambrosios said:
just a side note, which city are you in?
which version of note are you using? 7000? or 717?
the international note (SGH-7000) is not LTE compatible......
you may want to ask ATT about the insurance.....if u have a ATT note.....i am pretty sure they will cover it....(probably will be have deductible fee)....if its an International note...you are out of luck....
for LTE...you will need an LTE enabled plan......just call ATT to enable it......i think there is no additional charge....(i could be wrong)
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You're exactly correct. Must have the LTE enabled plan for LTE to work
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MrEous said:
Speedtest result in Dallas...click for bigger
43Mbps down, 13Mbps up
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Crappiest in Chicago. No more than 6.
Tapatalk via Samsung Note.
schtuka said:
Crappiest in Chicago. No more than 6.
Tapatalk via Samsung Note.
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Whoa...I guess it pays to have AT&T Corporate in your hometown (Dallas)
Fastest LTE i have ever got in Boston
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As many of you already know, Note 3 is one of a few Verizon smartphones that has a Category 4 LTE modem, capable of delivering 150Mbps download speeds. Verizon's been rolling out new LTE layer on AWS or Band 4, and in many cities like NYC, LA, SF, Chicago, Atlanta, Detroit, Miami, to name a few users have been seeing speeds just under 100Mbps, but only using Category 3 devices like GS4, iPhone 5s, etc which are hardware limited at 100Mbps.
Since this is a Note 3 forum, it would be great to have this thread for reports on Verizon's Band 4 LTE, and especially Speedtest.net results which should be north of 100Mbps!
Similar thread exists in GS4 forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502716
And a much more in depth one over at HoFo: http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...ent-and-Verizon-sites-with-Remote-Radio-Units
This article also talked about Verizon's 2x20Mhz AWS LTE: http://gigaom.com/2013/10/14/watch-out-att-verizons-new-lte-network-monster-stirs-in-nyc/
On Galaxy phones it should be easy to access ServiceMode via dial codes, which will allow you to monitor the Band you're connected to, and even force the certain frequency. I don't own Note 3, but afaik Verizon usually tries to block out these codes, although there used to be an app in Play Store that would dial the codes for you (Samsung ServiceMode or Sammy codes)
*#0011# General Debug screen
*#2263# Allows you to force any frequency on your phone
*#27663368378# Main screen
There are a few other codes, please post your findings!
That's pretty neat. Thanks for the info!
I wonder what this'll mean for Verizon customers currently grandfathered into the unlimited 4G LTE data plans and if there's any plans of discontinuing that service.
I'll have to check this out once I head back to the city.
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keennay said:
That's pretty neat. Thanks for the info!
I wonder what this'll mean for Verizon customers currently grandfathered into the unlimited 4G LTE data plans and if there's any plans of discontinuing that service.
I'll have to check this out once I head back to the city.
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Unlimited users still get to access this LTE channel with capable device like Note 3.
This is what users are seeing on GS4, but remember GS4 is capable of only 100Mbps on the downlink, so that's the limiting factor. Note 3 can push 150Mbps!
I have read conflicting reports, pretty sure its still disabled on our firmware. One guy said he tried in his AWS enabled area and it wasnt recieving it, still same speed as MI9 and others thought they might since they were seeing speeds of like 60 down.
I'm not in one of those areas and lucky to see 30 down on a good day, so I can't tell you definitively either way.
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I have read conflicting reports, pretty sure its still disabled on our firmware. One guy said he tried in his AWS enabled area and it wasnt recieving it, still same speed as MI9 and others thought they might since they were seeing speeds of like 60 down.
I'm not in one of those areas and lucky to see 30 down on a good day, so I can't tell you definitively either way.
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Have you tried the Play Store apps to get into ServiceMode?
There are a few of them, I use this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amoopa.sammysmode&hl=en
There seems to be a similar free one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kabasoft.util.servicemodeshortcut&hl=en
*#0011# General Debug screen
*#2263# Allows you to force any frequency on your phone
*#197328640# Main screen
Out of those 3 codes only *#0011# General Debug screen worked for me. Hmm are there any other additional steps I have to take to be able to access those other codes?
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Have you tried the Play Store apps to get into ServiceMode?
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No, as I said I dont live in a AWS area.
Here was the post though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47190780&postcount=108
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I've confirmed it twice that it's not in the update, as we have both Tmo and VZ LTE in Band 4 here. VZ speeds stayed the same post update and my TMO Sim will only go to H+ vs my VZ-GS4 which goes up to LTE on the TMO SIM.
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*#0011# General Debug screen
*#2263# Allows you to force any frequency on your phone
*#197328640# Main screen
Out of those 3 codes only *#0011# General Debug screen worked for me. Hmm are there any other additional steps I have to take to be able to access those other codes?
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Post screenshot of *#0011# and I'll explain how to analyze it.
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Post screenshot of *#0011# and I'll explain how to analyze it.
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Ok, so you're looking at the first line where it says LTE Band. Band 13 is the original LTE layer in 700Mhz spectrum.
PLMN: 311-480 is the country/network code, unique to Verizon Wireless.
Bandwidth is the amount of spectrum they're using. Band 13 is 10Mhz nationwide, capable of 73.6Mbps peak speeds. Their Band 4 is in many markets 20Mhz capable of 150Mbps peak speeds!
RSRP is "reference signal receive power" -44dBm being amazing, and -140dBm you're about to drop connection.
SNR is "signal to noise ratio" the higher the better. 30dB is perfect.
RSRQ is "reference signal receive quality" -3dBm being amazing and -19dBm terrible.
PA state displays the new envelope tracking (ET) feature only Note 3 has, it saves battery and should improve upload, etc....
You really should be watching the first line and try to spot "BAND 4" and the third line showing you the BW (bandwidth). Should be between 10Mhz and 20Mhz depending on the market. Please state your market when you post screenshots, it will really help me figure out which areas are getting this massive capacity!
Hope this helps!
So do you know why I can't access those codes?
*#2263# Allows you to force any frequency on your phone
*#197328640# Main screen
I really wanna try to enable that band 4 option
lisek99 said:
So do you know why I can't access those codes?
*#2263# Allows you to force any frequency on your phone
*#197328640# Main screen
I really wanna try to enable that band 4 option
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Ever since HTC Thunderbolt which had a similar ServiceMenu, Verizon got paranoid about giving users too much low level control, and started requesting OEMs to block these codes from the final shipping ROMs. T-Mobile variant for instance has all of the ServiceMode pages enabled. So the ServiceMode.apk is still there, but it isn't listening dialer any more. You can try those apps I've posted above, they should get you to the service mode.
There is also *#27663368378# Which is the actual root of the app. Also, certain ROMs enable this. It's really enabling it in the build.prop. ServiceMode is baked into the TW framework, so ROM must be TW based.
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Ever since HTC Thunderbolt which had a similar ServiceMenu, Verizon got paranoid about giving users too much low level control, and started requesting OEMs to block these codes from the final shipping ROMs. T-Mobile variant for instance has all of the ServiceMode pages enabled. So the ServiceMode.apk is still there, but it isn't listening dialer any more. You can try those apps I've posted above, they should get you to the service mode.
There is also *#27663368378# Which is the actual root of the app. Also, certain ROMs enable this. It's really enabling it in the build.prop. ServiceMode is baked into the TW framework, so ROM must be TW based.
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After using *#27663368378# I navigated thru the menu and I got to this screen but after enabling it and rebooting the phone my band was still at 13
None if these codes are doing anything for me on beans rom. Type em in and all it does is dial.
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Can anyone else with the Verizon Developer Edition of the Note 3 utilize any of these apps? Both say they're unsupported on my device.
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Im trying to do that 2766 long string that ends with the pound nothings happening am I supposed to hit something after that dialer just tries to make a call no menu comes up
** just tried the service mode shortcut app 2nd link doesnt work says not supported when you click it in the app
Well I just tried to buy the app from the 1st link and it says my Note 3 isnt supported and wont let me download it. Howd you get into the menu? The apk for servicemode is showing in Titanium and not frozen dont know why it wont open
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After using *#27663368378# I navigated thru the menu and I got to this screen but after enabling it and rebooting the phone my band was still at 13
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Ah finally! After the reboot, do you have Band 4 ENABLED? Did it stick? Which ROM are you on and what metro area are you in?
Not all areas have Band 4 enabled. NYC, LA, SF, Chicago, Atlanta, Miami, but also Lexington, KY, etc... Try testing it in the busiest parts of your city, since Verizon is deploying there first, to alleviate the congestion.
Hi Milan, nice seeing you here, read a lot of your posts over at HoFo and S4GRU.
YES!!! AWS live in Philadelphia!!! I have kept up with the HoFo thread and haven't heard of any sighting in Philly yet.
What I did was first enabled B4 like above and then went into UE setting, settings, protocol, NAS, network control, band selection, and under LTE preference chose B4 to force it. Interesting enough there is no B13 option in there.
I have screenshots of service mode, was speed test, and b13 speed test. Too bad signal on AWS sucks so I can't really use it. I guess this is because Verizon had the lowest number of towers here. My speed test is quite poor but compared to B13 in Philly, otherwise known as the slowest network in Philly other than Verizon CDMA, pretty much anything is improvement.
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Hi Milan, nice seeing you here, read a lot of your posts over at HoFo and S4GRU.
YES!!! AWS live in Philadelphia!!! I have kept up with the HoFo thread and haven't heard of any sighting in Philly yet.
What I did was first enabled B4 like above and then went into UE setting, settings, protocol, NAS, network control, band selection, and under LTE preference chose B4 to force it. Interesting enough there is no B13 option in there.
I have screenshots of service mode, was speed test, and b13 speed test. Too bad signal on AWS sucks so I can't really use it. I guess this is because Verizon had the lowest number of towers here. My speed test is quite poor but compared to B13 in Philly, otherwise known as the slowest network in Philly other than Verizon CDMA, pretty much anything is improvement.
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Hey this is awesome news!!! Congrats! They seem to be running another 10Mhz FDD LTE in the AWS. EARFCN value of 2100 corresponds to B block AWS license they've acquired from SpectrumCo cable companies! So you should be having another 73.6Mbps channel which should alleviate the congestion!
Have you tried testing in a busy areas of Philly during the Off-Peak hours just to see if the capacity is there? Don't forget to put Network Selection back to "Automatic", otherwise you won't be receiving any calls, just LTE Data
Thank you for posting a short guide on how to properly enable B4 on Note 3!
Again how are you guys even getting into the service mode? Both of those apps and none of the codes seem to work what am I doing wrong here?
I have a $70 unlimited prepaid sim from T-Mobile The service is good. I've only used my unlocked iPhone 5S with T-Mobile. LTE reception always seems 2-3 bars. Much weaker than AT&T's, and slower (in my area). I am wondering how those of you with the S5 rate their service. I'm assuming the Galaxy phones work better than the iPhone. I do not travel so T-Mobile may be an option for me coming from AT&T.
1. How is WiFi calling on the S5? I read it was bad on the Note 3 initially. Does this work over every WiFi network?
2. Due to the high frequencies, do you T-Mobile users find your service cutting out? Is HSPA+ improved?
Really depends on where you are.
It works great where I am as far as signal is concerned.
I don't have any problems with speed and get around 20+mbps when on LTE
And wifi calling works well on this phone.
As said above it does depend a lot on where you are. Generally speaking in major urban areas T-Mobile has very fast LTE but their data coverage gets spotty in rural areas. Road tripping is always a problem but my girlfriend with At&t would always have at least a 3G connection.
CitrixLemon said:
As said above it does depend a lot on where you are. Generally speaking in major urban areas T-Mobile has very fast LTE but their data coverage gets spotty in rural areas. Road tripping is always a problem but my girlfriend with At&t would always have at least a 3G connection.
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Well what do you think... this is where I mostly travel within my area.
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That doesn't look too bad.
I would say find the adresses of where you will be mostly and zoom in street level though to get more detailed to make sure.
It is hard to get enough granularity with a far out zoom like that.
TheArtiszan said:
That doesn't look too bad.
I would say find the adresses of where you will be mostly and zoom in street level though to get more detailed to make sure.
It is hard to get enough granularity with a far out zoom like that.
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Well this entire area by my house is suppose to be good LTE, but its nothing but EDGE. Very strong EDGE I might add.
Anyone else? T-Mobile's HSPA network is definitely more reliable than their LTE network. A few times the HSPA signal switched to E.
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Well this entire area by my house is suppose to be good LTE, but its nothing but EDGE. Very strong EDGE I might add.
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What I found in the past 2 weeks I was using an Unlocked Galaxy S4 that I brought from AT&T is that even when you can get LTE with it (and your iphone) it seems that not all antennas are carrying same frequencies, so your phone will change to Edge a lot easier and frequent, I'm saying that the only one in my family with an AT&T service was me, my 2 daughters and wife are on a T-mobile Family Plan, on the past 2 weeks that I switched to T-Mobile and was using the S4 until I could get the S5, all of them were on 4g LTE while me was sometimes but most of the time it changed to Edge, again, just in certain areas (Antennas).
Since I got the S5 on Thursday I can finally say that I get the service I was expecting.
I live in chicago and go all over....north west south su urbs and always have great service. I think your att .s4 may be missing some antennas
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Well what do you think... this is where I mostly travel within my area.
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It looks ok, a little spotty in areas. I'd recommend finding a friend who lives in your area with T-Mobile and ask them how it is.
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It looks ok, a little spotty in areas. I'd recommend finding a friend who lives in your area with T-Mobile and ask them how it is.
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I currently have a $70 prepaid from T-Mobile. I am using it in the iPhone 5S. The iPhone does not seem to play nicely with T-Mobile's bands (despite supporting all of them). That is why I was asking how the S5 performs with T-Mobile service. Does the phone really hold onto HSPA+/LTE signals or does it drop to EDGE often? Using my T-Mobile today, I had no problem streaming spotify on the way to work. AT&T signal is still a lot stronger, but T-Mobile got the job done.
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Well what do you think... this is where I mostly travel within my area.
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I live just NorthWest of you, up in Woodridge, and I work in Oak Brook. I have nearly full bars all of the time with terrific speeds. I travel around chi-land and in the city for work and it is just as great all around that area. I seem to only have issues once I get North of Vernon Hills, West of Aurora, and South of i-55. And by issues I mean 1 to 3 bars and not a full signal.
I have family that are in Indiana and I have to go near Muncie Indiana. I take i-65 South and i can tell you once I get past Merriville, the signal is spotty, until I eventually lose it for a bit. Where you are, I'd say 2-3 bars on the LTE is likely the norm, at least for now. Seems like every trip I make into Indiana it keeps improving so I'm sure before too long you will have a terrific connection most of the time.
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I live just NorthWest of you, up in Woodridge, and I work in Oak Brook. I have nearly full bars all of the time with terrific speeds. I travel around chi-land and in the city for work and it is just as great all around that area. I seem to only have issues once I get North of Vernon Hills, West of Aurora, and South of i-55. And by issues I mean 1 to 3 bars and not a full signal.
I have family that are in Indiana and I have to go near Muncie Indiana. I take i-65 South and i can tell you once I get past Merriville, the signal is spotty, until I eventually lose it for a bit. Where you are, I'd say 2-3 bars on the LTE is likely the norm, at least for now. Seems like every trip I make into Indiana it keeps improving so I'm sure before too long you will have a terrific connection most of the time.
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Thanks for your input. My biggest problem is the constant switching from LTE to HSPA+. I do not know if Samsung phones handle that better than the iPhones but my god is it horrible. My battery on my 5S decreased 25% this morning when with my ATT sim it only decreases 2 percent streaming spotify. I'm not in IL often but T-Mobile is a lot better there. In northwest Indiana it's Swiss cheese coverage (at least now).
People like me are screwed because AT&T is the only carrier that works well. Of course what's the point when they lock down their phones and eliminate features off flagship devices. But I should not have to change my smartphone habits to accommodate another carrier.
Hello. My phone only show 2G or 2.5G. Not 3G or 4G. Settings > Tethering & networks mobile networks > 2G/2G/4G. What can I do?
I have the same issue.
Even though the phone is 4G LTE it only ever says H on the top. The max speed i've seen is 3.5Mbps. It ranges 2G 2.5G never really reaches 3G or 4G speeds. I've updated, talked to reps on the phone, factory reset, and still super slow speed.
This phone was purchased brand new 3 years ago on eBay for a significant amount. Came in original packaging and everything with LG seals. Also ran AnTuTu official to test any fake possibility and everything said OK. The only thing I can think at this point, is that I tethered the phone years ago just to see if I could use with my computer, and since then I think possibly ATT has been limiting my speed. But everyone claims no limit...
Maybe some kind of weird software glitch? I am completely lost at this point.
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Even though the phone is 4G LTE it only ever says H on the top. The max speed i've seen is 3.5Mbps. It ranges 2G 2.5G never really reaches 3G or 4G speeds. I've updated, talked to reps on the phone, factory reset, and still super slow speed.
This phone was purchased brand new 3 years ago on eBay for a significant amount. Came in original packaging and everything with LG seals. Also ran AnTuTu official to test any fake possibility and everything said OK. The only thing I can think at this point, is that I tethered the phone years ago just to see if I could use with my computer, and since then I think possibly ATT has been limiting my speed. But everyone claims no limit...
Maybe some kind of weird software glitch? I am completely lost at this point.
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Do you use an custom ROM? For what purpose would be 4G for you? The signal can be provider and location dependent.
Also you should know MBps and Mbps differs from each other at the factor of 8 (1MBps = 8Mbps). Commonly used in Downloadspeeds is Mbps.
4G to have something better than the "2.5G Like" intermittent speeds.
Location is confirmed with 4G LTE.
IMEI info comes back as HSPDA+. From what I read, this is what ATT uses instead of 4G.... but either way it's a hell of a lot faster than 3 Mbps.
Only recently rooted to try to fix this issue. Was not getting real speeds even without rom. Still on stock rom. Recently did V10k stock rom update.
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- I see you mentioned MBps vs Mbps... yes I did mean 3.5 Mbps.
After doing more research, it seems never-msrp on eBay was selling new LG G2 D620 Minis that were manufactured incorrectly, or were part of some kind of high brow scheme. Multiple locations on the phone show the Quad core Snapdragon processor as MSM8226 (3G capable) not MSM8926 (4G LTE capable). The back cover and packaging on the phone all show 4G LTE, but the processor and board info all show MSM8226. Over 3 years, I had never connected to 4G since the straight talk adviser at the time said they were out of 4G sim chips, and I would only be on 3G. It wasn't until today, that I installed the new sim chip into my phone and did all this research. Looks like I got beat
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After doing more research, it seems never-msrp on eBay was selling new LG G2 D620 Minis that were manufactured incorrectly, or were part of some kind of high brow scheme. Multiple locations on the phone show the Quad core Snapdragon processor as MSM8226 (3G capable) not MSM8926 (4G LTE capable).
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AFAIK everything is in order, when I got g2mini it was advertised as LTE variant, and my carrier had cheaper non LTE model.
There also is Nvidia Tegra variant of our phones, which also has LTE. Moreover according to interwebz NFC is present only in LTE variants.
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AFAIK everything is in order, when I got g2mini it was advertised as LTE variant, and my carrier had cheaper non LTE model.
There also is Nvidia Tegra variant of our phones, which also has LTE. Moreover according to interwebz NFC is present only in LTE variants.
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Which makes my situation even weirder. I have NFC in my phone, but the non-LTE Snapdragon processor.
To make one final test, I'm ordering a freedompop sim to test the ATT 4G network in this area, borrowing an LTE enabled GPad (verified working with 4G).
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Which makes my situation even weirder. I have NFC in my phone, but the non-LTE Snapdragon processor.
To make one final test, I'm ordering a freedompop sim to test the ATT 4G network in this area, borrowing an LTE enabled GPad (verified working with 4G).
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There is no need for this, what is your phone version? It is on a sticker with imei, under battery.
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There is no need for this, what is your phone version? It is on a sticker with imei, under battery.
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I have a case that is insane to get off. But, D620.
I've also seen various locations on the software of my phone say D620 and D620r.
Is that the version you are speaking of?
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I have a case that is insane to get off. But, D620.
I've also seen various locations on the software of my phone say D620 and D620r.
Is that the version you are speaking of?
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D620/D620R should be MSM8926, and should have LTE. But I suspect you are in USA, this would point to a certain problem with LTE frequencies. As according to list of LTE networks, LG G2 mini LTE does not work on frequencies used by mobile operators in USA.
But then again I have data for LG G620R using MSM8926 SoC, because your reports MSM8226 it might be version for US market, but I failed at finding such version. Although I might be mistaken, it is kind of late in here, I'll take a look at it tomorrow morning.
Try to use devcheck (from the play store) to see exactly what you have
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D620/D620R should be MSM8926, and should have LTE. But I suspect you are in USA, this would point to a certain problem with LTE frequencies. As according to list of LTE networks, LG G2 mini LTE does not work on frequencies used by mobile operators in USA.
But then again I have data for LG G620R using MSM8926 SoC, because your reports MSM8226 it might be version for US market, but I failed at finding such version. Although I might be mistaken, it is kind of late in here, I'll take a look at it tomorrow morning.
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I more so have a feeling that this was a manufacture defect batch. Where they put the D618 board into the phone, and coded the information for a D620. The only place it says MSM8926 is in the Baseband version. All other CPU test and programs show MSM8226.
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I more so have a feeling that this was a manufacture defect batch. Where they put the D618 board into the phone, and coded the information for a D620. The only place it says MSM8926 is in the Baseband version. All other CPU test and programs show MSM8226.
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Take a picture of the back of your phone with the battery removed.
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Take a picture of the back of your phone with the battery removed.
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That's unnecessary. No thank you. And that's my only camera.
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Try to use devcheck (from the play store) to see exactly what you have
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devcheck shows the same as CPU X, LG D620
I believe the d620 is the non lte version while the 'r' varient is. At least that's what I understood when I bought mine..
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I believe the d620 is the non lte version while the 'r' varient is. At least that's what I understood when I bought mine..
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It still does not explain SoC in OP phone. As every database i checked reports D620 and d620r to be equipped with MSM8926, MSM8226 was in D610/D618 (single/dual SIM), and those models do not have LTE for sure.
This seems to be right, as Tegra variant model number is D625.
Also I was correct, LTE in g2mini works on frequencies that are not used by US mobile carriers.
Has anyone been able to get 5G support in the USA with Xperia 1 lV XQ-CT72 ?
I have tried T-Mobile and also AT&T on mine and the best I can do is "LTE+" on T-Mobile
On AT&T it says only LTE, yet I am getting the same DL speeds as I did wit T-Mobile around 84mb
kuau said:
Has anyone been able to get 5G support in the USA with Xperia 1 lV XQ-CT72 ?
I have tried T-Mobile and also AT&T on mine and the best I can do is "LTE+" on T-Mobile
On AT&T it says only LTE, yet I am getting the same DL speeds as I did wit T-Mobile around 84mb
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Go into carrier band settings and disable dual Sim mode,
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Go into carrier band settings and disable dual Sim mode,
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Thanks yet I don't see where to disable dual sim mode, In "About Phone" Sim Status sin slot 2 shows not available.,
kuau said:
Thanks yet I don't see where to disable dual sim mode, In "About Phone" Sim Status sin slot 2 shows not available.,
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Download voWiFi go to Phone Info and when you see "Enable DSDS" Toggle it off
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Download voWiFi go to Phone Info and when you see "Enable DSDS" Toggle it off
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Done I did that and rebooted the phone anything else I need to do
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Done I did that and rebooted the phone anything else I need to do
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Check if you have NR selected in Sim Mode
That is 5G, on Reddit people have tried it and they say it's working
Also check you have the SIM card in Primary slot
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That is 5G, on Reddit people have tried it and they say it's working
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Thanks for your help. Can yo send me the link to the reddit thread discussion this
kuau said:
Thanks for your help. Can yo send me the link to the reddit thread discussion this
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https://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/wt7ecm/_/il6qthu
Thanks again I was able to figure it out on my own here In the USA my Xperia now shows 5G with AT&T I’m not sure if I am actually getting 5G speeds though
With a good connection what should my DL speeds be approximately?
Lastly I assume when the US variant starts shipping here in the States it will probably not support Wi-Fi calling either
Hard to tell really, depends on a type of network, congestion, signal quality.........and server speed on the other side.
Its clear to me that with the international version of this phone in the USA you don't get 5g speed
I did a test I ran SpeedTest using the same SIM card. One on my iPhone and got over 150mp transfer, I then put there same SIM card in my Xperia 1 IV device and even though it shows "5G"Service I am getting half the speed approximately 70mp download. So it's still running in LTE mode... Vert frustrating
But that doesn't tell that it's LTE. 5G can be worse then LTE. Unless you can lock on a specific cell on a certain tower and do proper testing which can also give veeeery different results, it's hard to tell what you are actually using. There are some apps that kinda tell you network info but it is not the same as proper testing app with all the details and ability to lock on to a specific cell. Been doing that with Huawei equipment recently and......well, very time consuming process and very frustrating vhen the same phone on the same spot can lock on some frequency but can't on another for the same technology on the same tower. And speed was anything from 50-500 MB, depends whether it was low band or high band and 735347 factors. And repeating the test right after can produce very different results.
Unless you try that 20 times with each phone on the same spot and preferably in hours of lower congestion and then have some consistency in results that xperia is always twice slower it might be just coincidence.
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But that doesn't tell that it's LTE. 5G can be worse then LTE. Unless you can lock on a specific cell on a certain tower and do proper testing which can also give veeeery different results, it's hard to tell what you are actually using. There are some apps that kinda tell you network info but it is not the same as proper testing app with all the details and ability to lock on to a specific cell. Been doing that with Huawei equipment recently and......well, very time consuming process and very frustrating vhen the same phone on the same spot can lock on some frequency but can't on another for the same technology on the same tower. And speed was anything from 50-500 MB, depends whether it was low band or high band and 735347 factors. And repeating the test right after can produce very different results.
Unless you try that 20 times with each phone on the same spot and preferably in hours of lower congestion and then have some consistency in results that xperia is always twice slower it might be just coincidence.
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I live in a rural area where there is only one tower. I did the test one after another. First with the iPhone using Speed Test from Ookia and then pulled the SIM card out and put it in the Xperia, using the same app on the Xperia I experienced much slower speeds and I did run the test multiple times.
I am in Australia, before this trick I got a maximum of 200mbs after figuring this out I am getting 300 - 800mb so it seems it's working on my end
have too be careful what actually being displayed for 5G service icon , I have found on the XQ-CT72 it will show 5g icon, but with LTE dicovery app, it shows its only connected to 2 different LTE bands, the download speeds are horrible like 10mbps, with the USA model pixel 6 pro it shows 5g and LTE App shows its connected to 5G NSA71 which is the true "5g" band and download speeds are 75-100 mbps, so I returned my 1 IV and see what happens with the USA model after it been out a while., then maybe I`ll buy that one, until now pixel 6 pro for now.
kuau said:
Has anyone been able to get 5G support in the USA with Xperia 1 lV XQ-CT72 ?
I have tried T-Mobile and also AT&T on mine and the best I can do is "LTE+" on T-Mobile
On AT&T it says only LTE, yet I am getting the same DL speeds as I did wit T-Mobile around 84mb
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Are folks checking if 5G is ACTUALLY being broadcast in their areas? Just because we see advertising on TV for 5g or a phone has 5g capability (have to check bands but some versions of this phone do have the 5g bands for the US) or a phone displays 5g in status bar (lol) but in reality is getting 4g (aka LTE). Even all typical LTE bands are not all broadcast in any given area e.g in my area Tmobile has 4 and 2 but nothing else and AT&T has 2 and 17 and nothing else. Too many times I see people endlessly discussing these 4g/5G issues without looking at the actual towers and what they are sending out in their respective areas.
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have too be careful what actually being displayed for 5G service icon , I have found on the XQ-CT72 it will show 5g icon, but with LTE dicovery app, it shows its only connected to 2 different LTE bands, the download speeds are horrible like 10mbps, with the USA model pixel 6 pro it shows 5g and LTE App shows its connected to 5G NSA71 which is the true "5g" band and download speeds are 75-100 mbps, so I returned my 1 IV and see what happens with the USA model after it been out a while., then maybe I`ll buy that one, until now pixel 6 pro for now.
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You have to also check what bands are actually being broadcast by the towers in your area of usage. Further the carriers go loose with the way what they call 5g (marketing). Also bands like 66 extended LTE is just seen in a couple of spots in a general large area like 30 x 30 sq miles where I am. At least that is what I have seen.