Confirming everything about rooting... (and a bit more)

Confirming everything about rooting... (and a bit more) - Sony Xperia M4 Aqua

I have found many sites with conflicting answers, so please don't tell me "google is your best friend" for my silly/already asked questions...
So first what I have: a 5 month old, non modified M4 aqua (E2306), bought from a Canadian carrier. The firmware version is 26.1.A.3.111 (bootloader locked). My goal is to root my phone when I update to MM (using the method PiSpecialist has posted, I cannot post links), but I haven't done so for the fear of losing TA partition when unlocking BL. There is currently no way to root MM with locked bootloader.
Now, my questions:
1. When I unlock my BL, I will lose the TA partition (DRM keys) of the device. Yet to back these up, I need root access. Should I root my device while it is still on Lollipop? There are ways to root BL Lollipop correct? If so, please link a preferable way to do this.
2. Will I receive OTA updates after rooting my phone? If not, I should download and flash firmware from Xperifirm?
3. Will I lose root when flashing new firmware (e.g. flashing MM to a rooted Lollipop device)?
4. Is it dangerous to flash official firmware to a rooted phone? What is a safe way?
I found that dealing with TA is dangerous and can hard brick a phone. Anybody found a reliable script/tool to do this?
So this is pretty much what I am planning to do so far, if the above is correct:
Root my phone while it is still on Lollipop with a locked bootloader.
Backup my TA partition.
Get MM (from either flashing, or OTA, depending if I still get OTA updates)
Unlock bootloader (as there is no way to root for locked bootloaders in MM)
Root phone while it is on MM (if I don't keep the root after updating from lollipop)
Restore TA partition
DONE!
Not as many questions as I thought.... Any other advice/things to look out for would be appreciated

Theres no way yet to have root in mm /system, it needs to be in kernel and you cant use custom kernel and restore ta. All the questions you did are already answered in forums.
But in case your interested ill tell you what i did step by step to have original TA part with drm and "tunned" but unrooted /system.
Keep in mind that your warranty is void, you will loose all your data and you may brick your device. Messing up with TA partition is serious and dangerous stuff. The following steps are just to tell you what i did.
If you want to do so, do it at your own risk.
1. Clean install LP 3.120 via flashtool wipping user data.
2. Root with rootkit 3.xxx and installed twrp for BL
3. Backup TA
4. Unlock bootloader and install MM fw via flashtool
5. Now with BU installed boot.img and recovery.img
6. Now with root, deleted unwanted apps, installed adblocker, installed xposed, tunned some settings/apps etc.
7. When /system was how i wanted, i made a backup via twrp (data, system, cache).
8. Clean install LP 3.120 again via flashtool, wipping user data.
9. Root via rootkit and installed twrp for BL.
10. Restored TA partition
11. Restored the backup via twrp and SHUTTED DOWN the phone because itll not match with the rest of the fw.
12. Installed MM fw again via flashtool but this time, excluded /system part and DID NOT WIPE user data nor Apps log. (as ive restored MM /data backup before)
13. Started the phone.
Now i have MM with drm, locked bootloader, unrooted, xposed working with few modules, adblocker applied and some other mods. Also i receive updates via sony apps such as whats new. And the low speaker volume seems to be fixed.

thewailer said:
Theres no way yet to have root in mm /system, it needs to be in kernel and you cant use custom kernel and restore ta. All the questions you did are already answered in forums.
But in case your interested ill tell you what i did step by step to have original TA part with drm and "tunned" but unrooted /system.
Keep in mind that your warranty is void, you will loose all your data and you may brick your device. Messing up with TA partition is serious and dangerous stuff. The following steps are just to tell you what i did.
If you want to do so, do it at your own risk.
1. Clean install LP 3.120 via flashtool wipping user data.
2. Root with rootkit 3.xxx and installed twrp for BL
3. Backup TA
4. Unlock bootloader and install MM fw via flashtool
5. Now with BU installed boot.img and recovery.img
6. Now with root, deleted unwanted apps, installed adblocker, installed xposed, tunned some settings/apps etc.
7. When /system was how i wanted, i made a backup via twrp (data, system, cache).
8. Clean install LP 3.120 again via flashtool, wipping user data.
9. Root via rootkit and installed twrp for BL.
10. Restored TA partition
11. Restored the backup via twrp and SHUTTED DOWN the phone because itll not match with the rest of the fw.
12. Installed MM fw again via flashtool but this time, excluded /system part and DID NOT WIPE user data nor Apps log. (as ive restored MM /data backup before)
13. Started the phone.
Now i have MM with drm, locked bootloader, unrooted, xposed working with few modules, adblocker applied and some other mods. Also i receive updates via sony apps such as whats new. And the low speaker volume seems to be fixed.
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Thank you.
What adblocker can be install?

Btw, false alarm regarding speaker volume, it still saturate with bass at higher volume resulting in a lower and kinda cracked volume output, it may need to be tweaked, or even try to port LP audio parametres to MM rom, if thats even a thing and possible, until sony fix it (if they do lol). Ive tested a variety of songs

thewailer said:
Now i have MM with drm, locked bootloader, unrooted, xposed working with few modules, adblocker applied and some other mods. Also i receive updates via sony apps such as whats new. And the low speaker volume seems to be fixed.
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Is there possibility for system to stay rooted? Btw how do u enter into recovery on MM ?
Tnx

harisdelic said:
Is there possibility for system to stay rooted? Btw how do u enter into recovery on MM ?
Tnx
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Theres no method at this moment to put su binaries in /system, but if you dont mind you can keep the root as long as you dont restore your TA / lock bootloader as it needs a stock kernel signed by sony.
I enter twrp recovery in MM by holding power+vol down
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sucsong said:
Thank you.
What adblocker can be install?
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Ive installed adaway that blocks via host file.

thewailer said:
Theres no method at this moment to put su binaries in /system, but if you dont mind you can keep the root as long as you dont restore your TA / lock bootloader as it needs a stock kernel signed by sony.
I enter twrp recovery in MM by holding power+vol down
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Thanks man. I will try metod you write above right now

harisdelic said:
Thanks man. I will try metod you write above right now
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No problem . Here in m4 aqua forums you have everything you need to backup TA, unlock bootloader, flash, drowngrade etc. Just follow all the tutorials carefully good luck

thewailer said:
Theres no method at this moment to put su binaries in /system, but if you dont mind you can keep the root as long as you dont restore your TA / lock bootloader as it needs a stock kernel signed by sony.
I enter twrp recovery in MM by holding power+vol down
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Ive installed adaway that blocks via host file.
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I don't understand about "excluded /system part"? Flash only system file or everything

sucsong said:
I don't understand about "excluded /system part"? Flash only system file or everything
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No, you exclude system as you restored it early via twrp, flash the rest of the firmware like modem, kernel etc. Remember to dont wipe data and apps log also
Edit: if you flash system youll loose the changes you did thats why you need to exclude from bundle when choosin in flashtool

DarkerJava said:
Thanks! This was what I was looking for!
Also, will you be able to root after this? (If someone comes up with a method)
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Your welcome. Yeah if someones finds a way to do the classic root like in LP this will be rootable for sure.
At least in the meanwhile we can have ads blocked and xposed with some modules and still keep bootloader locked with drm keys to keep functions and receive updates.

thewailer said:
Your welcome. Yeah if someones finds a way to do the classic root like in LP this will be rootable for sure.
At least in the meanwhile we can have ads blocked and xposed with some modules and still keep bootloader locked with drm keys to keep functions and receive updates.
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This is what im going to do...
Root bootloader locked in LL
Back up TA
Unlock bootloader
MM through flashtool
Root MM (boot.img , recovery.img) (This IS what you did by flashing these, right?)
http***://forum.xda-developers.com/m4-aqua/general/root-t3421932 (going to use this boot and recovery .img)
Chang/add to Marshmallow firmware
At this point, the device should be rooted on MM, with UB TWRP and SuperSU.
Now, is it okay if I just restore TA partition NOW, instead of going back to LL? I'm not really interested in saving OTA updates... speaking of which, how did you manage to still get them? I thought as soon as you modify your device, you are excluded from OTA updates...

DarkerJava said:
This is what im going to do...
Root bootloader locked in LL
Back up TA
Unlock bootloader
MM through flashtool
Root MM (boot.img , recovery.img) (This IS what you did by flashing these, right?)
http***://forum.xda-developers.com/m4-aqua/general/root-t3421932 (going to use this boot and recovery .img)
Chang/add to Marshmallow firmware
At this point, the device should be rooted on MM, with UB TWRP and SuperSU.
Now, is it okay if I just restore TA partition NOW, instead of going back to LL? I'm not really interested in saving OTA updates... speaking of which, how did you manage to still get them? I thought as soon as you modify your device, you are excluded from OTA updates...
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Yeah you root mm by flashimg boot.img.
First, some people reported that is recommended to restore TA partition in the same firmware as you backed them up. Second, if you restore your TA and you have custom boot.img (like that one to get the root) your device will not boot

sergioslk said:
i have locked bootloader and its not unlockable (buyed to a company) and after some test i can tell you that don't need to unlock bootloader to do this
you can do it from rooted LP with twrp, first wipe data , system and cache, install MM fromzip (you can create the zip with PRF creator using the dummy_flashable.zip instead supersu zip) after MM its installed you can now install xposed, and other kind of flashable mods, lastly, power off phone and flash tft skipping system.sin
you will have android modded and untouched bootloader without root
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id rather prefer to do the system changes with root in the mm firm, but sounds like a good method for those ones that cant unlock the BL.

sergioslk said:
i have locked bootloader and its not unlockable (buyed to a company) and after some test i can tell you that don't need to unlock bootloader to do this
you can do it from rooted LP with twrp, first wipe data , system and cache, install MM fromzip (you can create the zip with PRF creator using the dummy_flashable.zip instead supersu zip) after MM its installed you can now install xposed, and other kind of flashable mods, lastly, power off phone and flash tft skipping system.sin
you will have android modded and untouched bootloader without root
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Can't everyone unlock from the Sony website?

DarkerJava said:
I have found many sites with conflicting answers, so please don't tell me "google is your best friend" for my silly/already asked questions...
So first what I have: a 5 month old, non modified M4 aqua (E2306), bought from a Canadian carrier. The firmware version is 26.1.A.3.111 (bootloader locked). My goal is to root my phone when I update to MM (using the method PiSpecialist has posted, I cannot post links), but I haven't done so for the fear of losing TA partition when unlocking BL. There is currently no way to root MM with locked bootloader.
Now, my questions:
1. When I unlock my BL, I will lose the TA partition (DRM keys) of the device. Yet to back these up, I need root access. Should I root my device while it is still on Lollipop? There are ways to root BL Lollipop correct? If so, please link a preferable way to do this.
2. Will I receive OTA updates after rooting my phone? If not, I should download and flash firmware from Xperifirm?
3. Will I lose root when flashing new firmware (e.g. flashing MM to a rooted Lollipop device)?
4. Is it dangerous to flash official firmware to a rooted phone? What is a safe way?
I found that dealing with TA is dangerous and can hard brick a phone. Anybody found a reliable script/tool to do this?
So this is pretty much what I am planning to do so far, if the above is correct:
Root my phone while it is still on Lollipop with a locked bootloader.
Backup my TA partition.
Get MM (from either flashing, or OTA, depending if I still get OTA updates)
Unlock bootloader (as there is no way to root for locked bootloaders in MM)
Root phone while it is on MM (if I don't keep the root after updating from lollipop)
Restore TA partition
DONE!
Not as many questions as I thought.... Any other advice/things to look out for would be appreciated
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If on rooted 5.0 all you need to do is flash a pre-rooted mm zip via recovery on lollipop, no need to unlock the Bootloader for root unless you have a device that has drm-verity security activated.
Sent from my Xperia XA using XDA Labs

aidy.lucas said:
If on rooted 5.0 all you need to do is flash a pre-rooted mm zip via recovery on lollipop, no need to unlock the Bootloader for root unless you have a device that has drm-verity security activated.
Sent from my Xperia XA using XDA Labs
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Oh yeah I completely forgot about that... someone released a prerooted rom about a week ago on the forums. This will less complicate the process for bl locked rooted MM, thanks!

Related

[Guide]Everything About Root and Unlocking (4.4.4)[13/11/2014]

GETTING YOUR ULTRA ROOTED AND
READY FOR FLASHING
This guide should in theory make your Ultra ready for flashing custom ROMs, and with that said...
...here comes the warning: If you follow the steps contained herein
Your warranty is now voided. I/we are not responsible for bricked devices, or whatever you might end up with.
TABLE OF CONTENTS
Warnings
ROOT KitKat (Android 4.4.4)
Back up TA Partition
Install Recovery
Unlock the Bootloader
Install Custom ROM
Using Flashtool
Back to Stock
Handy Links
Glossary
Misc.
Warnings:
Backup your TA partition before unlocking your bootloader - you will lose DRM keys and other stuff during the unlock
Unlocking the Bootloader will wipe your phone, so backup your stuff
Never Flash a FTF to a ZU GPe - it will kill it
Your warranty is now VOID
ROOT KitKat (Android 4.4.4):Rooting 4.4.4
FTFs
14.4.A.0.108
14.4.A.0.118
To root KitKat we have a handy tool called Easy Root by @zxz0O0. This tool will root all modern Xperia devices running KitKat. Please read the thread.
To use this tool first upgrade to one of the above FTFs or use Sony's PC companion to update the phone to Android 4.4.4
Instructions:
What you get
Root
Access to /system rw
Requirements
USB debugging enabled
Settings => About phone => Click 7 times on Android Build to unlock developer options
Unknown sources enabled
Settings => Security
adb drivers installed
How to use
Download the latest version and extract it
Start your device and plug it to your computer
Run install.bat and follow the instructions on screen
Install SuperSU by Chainfire (recommended!)
Congratulations! You should now be rooted.
Don't forget to make a donation or thank the OP in the original thread
Rooting Pre 4.4.4
Upgrade to one of the 4.4.4 FTFs listed above to save any hassle
Rooting The GPe
GPe Owners: Do not try and flash any FTFs to your device. You will BRICK it with no way to recover it.
Go to this thread and follow the steps.
Back up TA Partition:The TA partition is the "Trim Area". There are lots of things stored in here like root certs, revoked certs, DRM keys, current firmware version,... the list goes on. What we are concerned about here is with the DRM keys. Some service centres will not service a Sony device if these are missing. Unlocking the BL will erase these.
Once you lose these keys, you can't get them back, so backup the TA and upload it to your Dropbox etc
You will need Backup TA for Sony Xperia by @DevShaft Please read the thread.
Instructions:
Download the latest version of Backup TA.
Extract the ZIP file to a folder location of your choosing.
Navigate to the folder location of Backup TA.
Make sure no other script or application which is using ADB is running.
Make sure the device is booted in normal mode (the way you normally use it).
Run Backup-TA.bat
Read the last paragraph of the license before continuing.
Read the information and follow the instructions given by the tool.
Don't forget to make a donation or thank the OP in the original thread
Install Recovery:
Download the latest version of @[NUT]'s Dual Recovery
Instructions:
Make sure you have USB debugging turned ON.
download ZU-lockeddualrecovery[VERSION]-BETA.installer.zip from http://nut.xperia-files.com
Windows:
unpack at C: or somewhere you will remember!
navigate to the resulting directory and look for install.bat, double click it to run;
Linux:
unpack in your home folder with 'unzip ZU-lockeddualrecovery[VERSION]-BETA.installer.zip'
navigate to the resulting directory and 'chmod +x install.sh', then execute it, follow instructions.
Your phone WILL reboot when installation has completed and it will go into the default recovery for the first boot.
Reboot to system from recovery to allow the installer to clean up after installation (it is safe to skip this step).
Enjoy DUAL RECOVERY!
Don't forget to make a donation or thank the OP in the original thread
Unlock the Bootloader:This will wipe your phone, so backup your stuff
You only need to unlock the bootloader if you want to run either a custom kernel or a custom ROM. Most ROMs based on the Sony releases will run on a locked bootloader.
Instructions:
Go to Sony's Developer site
Request the unlock key and check your mail straight away. Email is quick these days.
Open the latest Flashtool on your computer
Click the "BLU" icon
Follow the steps and enter your unlock key
Install Custom ROM:To install a custom ROM you will have to complete the steps above (ROOT, Back up the TA Partition, and Unlock the Bootloader) you dont need to have installed recovery but it will help you make a backup of the current state of your device.
After the above are done:
Backup current software with custom recovery (TWRP or cwm - use the same recovery the the new ROM uses*)
Downlod ROM
Extract boot.img from within the .zip
Flash the boot.img (not absolutely necessary but will mean you are on a recovery that is tested to work with the ROM)
In fastboot mode use either flashtool or the fastboot commands
- If you want to use the boot.img's recovery to make a back up of the current software/state of the device use:
Code:
fastboot boot boot.img
- or if you just want to flash the kernel and recovery to flash the ROM use:
Code:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot reboot
Wipe Data
Wipe Cache
Wipe Delvik Cache
Flash ROM
Reboot
*CM based ROMs normally use CWM. Slim and Omni based normally use TWRP
Using flashtool:Please use this very good guide: Flashtool XZU
Back to Stock:
To get back to pure stock Sony there are several things that need to be done:
Make sure you have root
Backup any data/photos/etc on the phone
Restore your TA backup with the TA backup tool above
If you are on a custom kernel or ROM you ZU will not boot at this stage
Start flashtool and load a FTF
Start the flash and wait for the onscreen instructions to connect the ZU
Connect your ZU in flashmode
With the ZU powered off
Connect to PC while holding the volume down key
Flash will start
Wait for flash to complete
Handy Links:FTFs: The FTF depository thread
Flashtool: http://flashtool.net
SuperSU: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu&hl=en
Glossary:FTF: A flashable package of Sony's stock firmware. These can be found in The FTF depository thread
TA Partition: The TA partition is the "Trim Area" there are lots of things stored in here like root cert, revoked certs, DRM keys, current firmware,... the list goe on. What we are concerned with is the DRM keys. Some service centres will not service a Sony device if these are missing. Unlocking the BL will erase these.
Bootloader or BL: This is the thing that loads Android. To run a custom ROM (non Sony) you have to unlock this
Root: You are GOD
boot.img: The kernel and recovery (on Xperia)
XDA:DevDB Information
Z-Ultra Root Guide, Tool/Utility for the Sony Xperia Z Ultra
Contributors
blueether, H. E. Pennypacker, adfurgerson, LordManhattan, [NUT], geohot, many others
Version Information
Status: Stable
Created 2014-11-13
Last Updated 2015-01-01

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As always, very informative blueether.
Questions:
(1) Does this mean we no longer need to downgrade/upgrade/restore imei etc?
(2) Unlocking the bootloader is a requirement for installing any rom? No way around this?
(3) I understand the need for the disclaimers but rooting/unlocking BL doesn't automatically void your warranty does it?

unidentifier said:
As always, very informative blueether.
Questions:
(1) Does this mean we no longer need to downgrade/upgrade/restore imei etc?
(2) Unlocking the bootloader is a requirement for installing any rom? No way around this?
(3) I understand the need for the disclaimers but rooting/unlocking BL doesn't automatically void your warranty does it?
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1/ was only needed on 4.2
2/ added a line
3/ ring Sony and say this: "I rooted my ZU, and now it won't boot. Can you fix it for me?" what do you think their response will be?

With the warranty question: I asked because I'm more concerned about the cracked glass issues than bricking the device because I couldn't follow instructions. Thanks again for the instructions.

I may sound dumb but if I am only interested in root just for link2sd feature & foldermount to overcome internal storage limitation by transfering to SD card then do I have to follow all steps ? or only first 2 step will do i.e. Root & install SU.
I will just root it & don't want to touch TA or Bootloader as not planning to update with custom rom. please suggest that even for rooting do I need to backup TA / unlock bootloader.
also will new update of Android Lollipop will wipe my root or will I be able to upgrade to lollipop in later on stage with Root.
please reply on this.

Nice with an updated version. Do speak up if you need some help with anything.

anandbohra said:
I may sound dumb but if I am only interested in root just for link2sd feature & foldermount to overcome internal storage limitation by transfering to SD card then do I have to follow all steps ? or only first 2 step will do i.e. Root & install SU.
I will just root it & don't want to touch TA or Bootloader as not planning to update with custom rom. please suggest that even for rooting do I need to backup TA / unlock bootloader.
also will new update of Android Lollipop will wipe my root or will I be able to upgrade to lollipop in later on stage with Root.
please reply on this.
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My XZU hasn't arrived but my experience with other phones is that root alone should allow you to use link2sd and fouldermount.
Can't speak to OTA updates being blocked on rooted phones..

anandbohra said:
I may sound dumb but if I am only interested in root just for link2sd feature & foldermount to overcome internal storage limitation by transfering to SD card then do I have to follow all steps ? or only first 2 step will do i.e. Root & install SU.
I will just root it & don't want to touch TA or Bootloader as not planning to update with custom rom. please suggest that even for rooting do I need to backup TA / unlock bootloader.
also will new update of Android Lollipop will wipe my root or will I be able to upgrade to lollipop in later on stage with Root.
please reply on this.
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Yes if you just need root the only go that far
OTA will probably fail with root, and flashing a FTF will wipe root when L arrives

rooting is not working. stops as there is no tr.apk included. In the guide there is nothing about tr.apk needed to be downloaded as well as that you need to donate before you can download. I dont mind to donate but I need to know it will work.

krystan said:
rooting is not working. stops as there is no tr.apk included. In the guide there is nothing about tr.apk needed to be downloaded as well as that you need to donate before you can download. I dont mind to donate but I need to know it will work.
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Are you only wanting to root, or do you plan to install recovery also?

blueether said:
Yes if you just need root the only go that far
OTA will probably fail with root, and flashing a FTF will wipe root when L arrives
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Thank you very much for your prompt reply.
will post my experience once I receive my piece & just plain root it.
anyhow as per google Lollipop might take another 4-5 months for Xperia Z Ultra (might be May-15)
Thanks every one.

anandbohra said:
Thank you very much for your prompt reply.
will post my experience once I receive my piece & just plain root it.
anyhow as per google Lollipop might take another 4-5 months for Xperia Z Ultra (might be May-15)
Thanks every one.
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Just roo should be fine
We are getting close to haveing a working AOSP L, give it a few days I guess (but pleas dont clog this thread up with L stuff for now

All my previous Sumsang phones were on custom ROMs.
But with SonyXZU I just want to root, for now

krystan said:
All my previous Sumsang phones were on custom ROMs.
But with SonyXZU I just want to root, for now
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Darn I was going to suggest using the dualrecovery installer for locked bootloaders and then flashing supersu from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...de-root-android-4-4-4-ver-14-4-0-108-t2801587
I have the towelroot apk that I downloaded a few days ago, but not sure what you would need to do with it.

adfurgerson said:
Darn I was going to suggest using the dualrecovery installer for locked bootloaders and then flashing supersu from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...de-root-android-4-4-4-ver-14-4-0-108-t2801587
I have the towelroot apk that I downloaded a few days ago, but not sure what you would need to do with it.
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Thank you adfurgenson
If I do dualrecovery will I be able to get 5.0?
Or only manually?

krystan said:
Thank you adfurgenson
If I do dualrecovery will I be able to get 5.0?
Or only manually?
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I am pretty certain that you have to go back to stock to receive the OTA, but I think that would apply also if you only rooted. Flashing an ftf file with flashtool without checking the boxes to wipe data is what I have seen recommended to get back to stock. I hate giving an answer I am not one hundred percent sure is correct so I will call on some experts, @blueether or @HEPennypacker can you confirm this is correct please.

adfurgerson said:
I am pretty certain that you have to go back to stock to receive the OTA, but I think that would apply also if you only rooted. Flashing an ftf file with flashtool without checking the boxes to wipe data is what I have seen recommended to get back to stock. I hate giving an answer I am not one hundred percent sure is correct so I will call on some experts, @blueether or @HEPennypacker can you confirm this is correct please.
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meh, can't be bothered writing a reply. What you said will work if/when the OTA fails

OK more of a reply...
unless the OTA is only very minor it will normally fail even if the ZU just rooted

ADB Drivers and Sony PC Companion
ADB
Trying to prep the computer before the XZU arrives. The sticky mentions ADB drivers.
Are these the best ways to get them or are there better options?:
15 Second ADB Installer: http://goo.gl/ixQyom
Minimal ADB and Fastboot: http://goo.gl/EuGtRo
PC COMPANION
Link to Sony PC Companion
http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/xperiazultra/tools/pc-companion/

[Q] New to Z2, few Questions

Hey guys,
I am new to the Z2 and Sony devices in general. I rooted and flashed Samsung and HTC devices before, so I am not a total beginner.
Basically what I wanna do is: Flash the eXistenz Rom with locked BL.
1. Flashtool
Okay, so I need to downgrade. I already downloaded the flashtool + a .314 firmware for my phone.
Do I leave the flashtool flashing options just at the defaults? I mean do I really don't wanna check things like partition and TA in the "exlude" field.
Wouldn't that mean that it is going to flash TA and re-partition the storage (doesn't really sounds like what I want). I read some threads,
but they're always like "Yeah, just click flash", so I thought I doublecheck.
2. Rooting
Okay, so theres many root methods out there, which one can you guys recommend? What root method does flashtool use?
3. Nut's
If I do all the above mentioned, I could just flash a ftf file and my phone would be completely stock right? Nut's is also some sort of hack which doesn't alter the original recovery in the recovery partition on my phone, right?
Thanks in advance.

Kamairo said:
Hey guys,
I am new to the Z2 and Sony devices in general. I rooted and flashed Samsung and HTC devices before, so I am not a total beginner.
Basically what I wanna do is: Flash the eXistenz Rom with locked BL.
1. Flashtool
Okay, so I need to downgrade. I already downloaded the flashtool + a .314 firmware for my phone.
Do I leave the flashtool flashing options just at the defaults? I mean do I really don't wanna check things like partition and TA in the "exlude" field.
Wouldn't that mean that it is going to flash TA and re-partition the storage (doesn't really sounds like what I want). I read some threads,
but they're always like "Yeah, just click flash", so I thought I doublecheck.
2. Rooting
Okay, so theres many root methods out there, which one can you guys recommend? What root method does flashtool use?
3. Nut's
If I do all the above mentioned, I could just flash a ftf file and my phone would be completely stock right? Nut's is also some sort of hack which doesn't alter the original recovery in the recovery partition on my phone, right?
Thanks in advance.
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1. yes leave flashtool options at default (it will wipe your internal storage)
TA partition isnt touchable realy, if your DRM keys exist they arent affected by using flashtool
2. Rooting depends on your firmware, 167 or newer isnt rootable via tool so you will have to folow a slightly longer task to root, easy root tool is recomended (check the info thread near the top of QnA section)
3. [NUT] Is a user who makes recovery for locked bootloaders, You need to be rooted to be able to install his recoveries
flashing a FTF will completly reset your device to stock
[NUT]'s Recovery for locked bootloader doesnt affect the boot or Recovery partition hence its ability to run on a locked bootloader

Envious_Data said:
1. yes leave flashtool options at default (it will wipe your internal storage)
TA partition isnt touchable realy, if your DRM keys exist they arent affected by using flashtool
2. Rooting depends on your firmware, 167 or newer isnt rootable via tool so you will have to folow a slightly longer task to root, easy root tool is recomended (check the info thread near the top of QnA section)
3. [NUT] Is a user who makes recovery for locked bootloaders, You need to be rooted to be able to install his recoveries
flashing a FTF will completly reset your device to stock
[NUT]'s Recovery for locked bootloader doesnt affect the boot or Recovery partition hence its ability to run on a locked bootloader
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1. Okay, yeah, that makes sense if the BL is locked
2. So I'll check out Easy root tool, thx
3. That's what I thought, thank you

Some Questions

Current Situation:
-Phone is on KK (version .167)
-Phone is working fine, no problems at all
-Has Locked Bootloader
-Is Missing Recovery
So my questions are:
1) Can I install recovery WITHOUT having to unlock my bootloader or flashing another rom?
If yes, then could you perhaps provide me with the necessary information to do it? (if I need a PC, and where to find the required programms, I will do everything else on my own)
2) Can I take a Nandroid Backup of just the system? (not the apps installed by me)
3) If I have a Nandroid Backup, flash another android version, and then restore the backup, everything should be as if I never flashed anything right?
4) If I take a Nandroid Backup while on locked bootloader, flash a rom, unlock my bootloader, flash a kernel, and then restore my backup, what happens?

Mokiwipeout said:
Current Situation:
-Phone is on KK (version .167)
-Phone is working fine, no problems at all
-Has Locked Bootloader
-Is Missing Recovery
So my questions are:
1) Can I install recovery WITHOUT having to unlock my bootloader or flashing another rom?
If yes, then could you perhaps provide me with the necessary information to do it? (if I need a PC, and where to find the required programms, I will do everything else on my own)
2) Can I take a Nandroid Backup of just the system? (not the apps installed by me)
3) If I have a Nandroid Backup, flash another android version, and then restore the backup, everything should be as if I never flashed anything right?
4) If I take a Nandroid Backup while on locked bootloader, flash a rom, unlock my bootloader, flash a kernel, and then restore my backup, what happens?
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Mokiwipeout said:
Current Situation:
-Phone is on KK (version .167)
-Phone is working fine, no problems at all
-Has Locked Bootloader
-Is Missing Recovery
So my questions are:
1) Can I install recovery WITHOUT having to unlock my bootloader or flashing another rom?
If yes, then could you perhaps provide me with the necessary information to do it? (if I need a PC, and where to find the required programms, I will do everything else on my own)
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Yes. This has been asked and answered. There is a search button to assist in asking siple thing. There is also google.
1. Root with community root kit, towelroot or king root. Install recovery image. Google twrp and it'll tell you how to install with dd.
Mokiwipeout said:
2) Can I take a Nandroid Backup of just the system? (not the apps installed by me)
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Not really. You can take a complete backup and restore the system partition only though. Look in advanced restore of recovery. This will only recover the system partition and not the apps you install (assuming you don't install things on the system partition).
Mokiwipeout said:
3) If I have a Nandroid Backup, flash another android version, and then restore the backup, everything should be as if I never flashed anything right?
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Yes depending on what you restore and what you wipe. E.g. If you don't wipe data you may get some interesting things like force closes or boatloads.
Mokiwipeout said:
4) If I take a Nandroid Backup while on locked bootloader, flash a rom, unlock my bootloader, flash a kernel, and then restore my backup, what happens?
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You'll be on the original rom and kernal with an unlocked bootloader.
Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk

1- You don't need to unlock the bootloader, there is no reason to do that. You must downgrade to 4.4.2 to install a recovery - A downgrade means you'll loose your apps and settings.Unlocking the bootloader will trigger factory reset too. And yes, you will need a PC or Mac with all the drivers installed (ADB and Flashmode are a must) See NUT's XZDR: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261606 Download the older installer from his official download page and search for Z2-lockeddualrecovery2.8.21-RELEASE.installer.zip . It can temporarily root to install the recovery. After you have a fully functional recovery you can install the SuperSU .zip
2- Use TWRP to make a backup, also you can make a flashable update package by yourself by using PRF Creator: http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/tool-prfcreator-easily-create-pre-t2859904 (You will need this to keep root/recovery on Marshmallow)
3- I usually do clean installs, so I can't answer this one
4-If you unlock the bootloader it will stay unlocked until you manually relock it.
BEWARE! Unlocking the bootloader on a Xperia is more of a downgrade. You will loose proprietary functions like noise cancelling, a bit of camera quality, some GPS functios, official updates, DRM keys...etc. First try to root on 4.4.2 and do a TA Backup (Trim Area) BEFORE tinkering with the bootloader. The DRM keys are unique to every phone, they are not interchangeable and cannot be recovered after you unlock the bootloader. Bootloader unlocking will not unlock the SIM card.

cachanilla86 said:
. You must downgrade to 4.4.2 to install a recovery
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You should read the question before you answer.
Mokiwipeout said:
Current Situation:
-Phone is on KK (version .167)
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cachanilla86 said:
. And yes, you will need a PC or Mac with all the drivers installed (ADB and Flashmode are a must)
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Also not true. Root with towelroot ask (https://towelroot.com/) and install twrp. Can be done from phone 100%.
Dd Install Method (Requires Root):
Download the latest image file (.img) from the download link above. Place it in the root of your /sdcard folder and rename it to twrp.img. Run the following commands via adb shell or a terminal emulator app:
su
dd if=/sdcard/twrp.img of=/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/FOTAKernel
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https://twrp.me/devices/sonyxperiaz2.html
Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk

Thank you guys for your responses, I know I should have searched before actually asking these questions. Anyways, thanks for saving me from actually having to search!

[GUIDE][6.0.1 OFFICIAL STOCK] Use TWRP to get root access

So the OFFICIAL 6.0.1 is already out and this is not the BETA version. It's for consumer release.
So how do you get to this eh?
NOTES: Flashtool can be used for both LB/UB. You won't lose DRM keys or unlock bootloader if you flash via flashtool.
1. Install Flashtool (get it here: http://www.flashtool.net/downloads.php).
2. There is a XperiFirm option there which would allow you to download official FTF files.
3. Navigate your way to Z3 Compact and grab the D5803 version US Variant (since this is configured for GLOBAL-LTE but i might still need to test bands). Or just grab anything you want there as long as it's version: 23.5.A.0.570
3. Flash using flashmode (hit the lightning icon there).
Now there's this "WIPE" Box, you have 2 options!
- Check User data and App logs and hit flash -- this will factory reset phone so you better have a backup!
- Leave them UNCHECKED if you want to retain your apps from your previous STOCK ROM. (might automatically uninstall incompatible apps in the process).
Once it asks for your device to be connected. Do as it says (power down, then hold the vol. down button as you plug the phone in).
-- this should start flashing.
4. After the process you may now boot the phone and there you have it!
-- Things below require unlocked BL --
If you want root, you can use fastboot and TWRP 3.X (I've tested the TWRP version 3.0.2 on the 6.0.1 beta before)
send this command on fastboot:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery <your twrp img here>
and hit enter. It must return 'OKAY'.
Unplug phone then boot into recovery and flash your SuperSU.zip
https://download.chainfire.eu/924/SuperSU/BETA-SuperSU-v2.68-20160228150503.zip

MINE!

Give a link to proper TWRP image please

tRippinthehead said:
Give a link to proper TWRP image please
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If you have a locked BL, then root and install DualRecovery. There is an excellent thread here on XDA and you'll be on TWRP in no time. It also makes sure you'll have the drivers and flash tool and everything that you'll need for this already configured and ready to go.
If you have an unlocked BL, just go find TWRP and flash through fastboot.
Thanks OP!
P.S. I'm guessing for those with locked BLs, we can use PRFCreator and that FTF from Xperifirm to create a flashable, pre-rooted MM ROM...anyone tried? My Z3c is currently bricked (hopefully fixable) so I can't test at the moment.

Another DEV published a root method, both for the LB and UB:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/wip-sony-android-6-0-mm-t3337357/page1
Keep in mind that that method was used for the BETA version of the rom, but yeah it's more likely that it would work with the consumer release. I'll update the OP once I relock my BL and successfully gain root with it.
The UB method there has the same effect as mine

I could not get root with the method, i would get boot img failure on flashing superSU in twrp with unlocked BL but to solve the issue i just flashed the advanced kernel for 6.0.1 and superSU flashed fine..not sure if anyone else is having this problem but this method did not work for me.

Do I keep root with locked bootloader with this method ?
Title of this topic is confusing, it seems that you need BL unlocked to get root.

hayatesan said:
Do I keep root with locked bootloader with this method ?
Title of this topic is confusing, it seems that you need BL unlocked to get root.
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No you will lose root if you flash ftf on locked BL, you will need to root again using whichever method you used previously. If you flash an ftf file on ANY bootloader locked or unlocked it resets your phone to the contents of the ftf file.

Fictional Reality said:
No you will lose root if you flash ftf on locked BL, you will need to root again using whichever method you used previously. If you flash an ftf file on ANY bootloader locked or unlocked it resets your phone to the contents of the ftf file.
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And which is the method to root this version with BL??

hv6478 said:
P.S. I'm guessing for those with locked BLs, we can use PRFCreator and that FTF from Xperifirm to create a flashable, pre-rooted MM ROM...anyone tried? My Z3c is currently bricked (hopefully fixable) so I can't test at the moment.
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I'm giving it a try so I'll let you know.
EDIT: Admittedly I haven't got a clue how to use prfcreator but I tried and whilst it flashed there was no root or recovery.
2nd EDIT: XDR doesn't work on MM yet. I'll give TWRP a try.
TWRP 3.0.2 for Z3C https://dl.twrp.me/z3c/twrp-3.0.2-0-z3c.img.html

Buleste said:
I'm giving it a try so I'll let you know.
EDIT: Admittedly I haven't got a clue how to use prfcreator but I tried and whilst it flashed there was no root or recovery.
2nd EDIT: XDR doesn't work on MM yet. I'll give TWRP a try.
TWRP 3.0.2 for Z3C https://dl.twrp.me/z3c/twrp-3.0.2-0-z3c.img.html
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Nice that sounds promising, at least it worked with the .zip that you created!
Which version of SuperSU are you using?
Thanks,
hv

hv6478 said:
Nice that sounds promising, at least it worked with the .zip that you created!
Which version of SuperSU are you using?
Thanks,
hv
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I'm using BETA-SuperSU-v2.71-20160331103524.zip
However I was looking at the PRFCreator thread and it looks like if you add Recroot v2 as the SuperSU it should work. Not sure if it will give a recovery though.
EDIT: Okay. Didn't install the SuperSU binary properly but Kingroot could install the root though. Tried to remove it and replace with SuperSU and got a bootloop. However I have a cunning plan.

Xperia Z3 Compact - UB
I could not get TWRP recovery with the fastboot method.
I tried to install several "recoverys" but none are installed.
Help me please.

Buleste said:
I'm using BETA-SuperSU-v2.71-20160331103524.zip
However I was looking at the PRFCreator thread and it looks like if you add Recroot v2 as the SuperSU it should work. Not sure if it will give a recovery though.
EDIT: Okay. Didn't install the SuperSU binary properly but Kingroot could install the root though. Tried to remove it and replace with SuperSU and got a bootloop. However I have a cunning plan.
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I love the sound of progress!

rvnlvrz said:
So the OFFICIAL 6.0.1 is already out and this is not the BETA version. It's for consumer release.
So how do you get to this eh?
NOTES: Flashtool can be used for both LB/UB. You won't lose DRM keys or unlock bootloader if you flash via flashtool.
1. Install Flashtool (get it here: http://www.flashtool.net/downloads.php).
2. There is a XperiFirm option there which would allow you to download official FTF files.
3. Navigate your way to Z3 Compact and grab the D5803 version US Variant (since this is configured for GLOBAL-LTE but i might still need to test bands). Or just grab anything you want there as long as it's version: 23.5.A.0.570
3. Flash using flashmode (hit the lightning icon there).
Now there's this "WIPE" Box, you have 2 options!
- Check User data and App logs and hit flash -- this will factory reset phone so you better have a backup!
- Leave them UNCHECKED if you want to retain your apps from your previous STOCK ROM. (might automatically uninstall incompatible apps in the process).
Once it asks for your device to be connected. Do as it says (power down, then hold the vol. down button as you plug the phone in).
-- this should start flashing.
4. After the process you may now boot the phone and there you have it!
-- Things below require unlocked BL --
If you want root, you can use fastboot and TWRP 3.X (I've tested the TWRP version 3.0.2 on the 6.0.1 beta before)
send this command on fastboot:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery <your twrp img here>
and hit enter. It must return 'OKAY'.
Unplug phone then boot into recovery and flash your SuperSU.zip
https://download.chainfire.eu/924/SuperSU/BETA-SuperSU-v2.68-20160228150503.zip
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It doesn't work, I have trying out for a while, but fastboot doesn't flash anything

hv6478 said:
I love the sound of progress!
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We have progress of sorts.
With prf creator add superSU and create the prerooted ROM.
In TWRP Wipe everything but SDcard and OTG
Install pre rooted ROM
Then Install RICDefieat.zip, byeselinux_flashable.zip, and BusyBox-v1.24.1-Stericson.zip
Power off the phone.
Open Flashtool
Load ftf of .570 and check the Exclude System box and flash the phone
Install TWRP using Z3C_MM_TWRP_Recovery_V2_By_Serajr
And that should be it.
Managed to get everything working bar the TWRP but I think that was my fault.
A download file of everything you need bar the ROM.

Buleste said:
We have progress of sorts.
With prf creator add superSU and create the prerooted ROM.
In TWRP Wipe everything but SDcard and OTG
Install pre rooted ROM
Then Install RICDefieat.zip, byeselinux_flashable.zip, and BusyBox-v1.24.1-Stericson.zip
Power off the phone.
Open Flashtool
Load ftf of .570 and check the Exclude System box and flash the phone
Install TWRP using Z3C_MM_TWRP_Recovery_V2_By_Serajr
And that should be it.
Managed to get everything working bar the TWRP but I think that was my fault.
A download file of everything you need bar the ROM.
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Worked?

marlontravagli said:
Worked?
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It seems to be working for me at the moment. Even TWRP.
Edit: TWRP is unstable and sometimes becomes unavailable . If that happens just find SGP621-RICDefeat.zip to enable R/W again and reinstall.

Buleste said:
We have progress of sorts.
With prf creator add superSU and create the prerooted ROM.
In TWRP Wipe everything but SDcard and OTG
Install pre rooted ROM
Then Install RICDefieat.zip, byeselinux_flashable.zip, and BusyBox-v1.24.1-Stericson.zip
Power off the phone.
Open Flashtool
Load ftf of .570 and check the Exclude System box and flash the phone
Install TWRP using Z3C_MM_TWRP_Recovery_V2_By_Serajr
And that should be it.
Managed to get everything working bar the TWRP but I think that was my fault.
A download file of everything you need bar the ROM.
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ok...this sims to be right, thanks

superpipo said:
ok...this sims to be right, thanks
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It seems that updating busybox to 1.24.1 stericson stops R/W permissions and the ability to access TWRP however it is easily fixed.

Any recovery we can use for Marshmallow?

XZ Dual Recovery is not yet compatible with Marshmallow and because of this I was forced to unlock the BL. Are there any recovery that we can use as of this moment? It seems that the development section for this is not so active.

infinitylook said:
XZ Dual Recovery is not yet compatible with Marshmallow and because of this I was forced to unlock the BL. Are there any recovery that we can use as of this moment? It seems that the development section for this is not so active.
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I saw that there is a prerooted 6.0.1 with only TWRP recovery installed, not dualrecovery. Can you guide me on steps to get from official 6.0.1 to root status on an unlocked bootloader? I can't do anything to go back to previous firmwares and it seems I have to unlock as the only way to get anywhere.

GigaSPX said:
I saw that there is a prerooted 6.0.1 with only TWRP recovery installed, not dualrecovery. Can you guide me on steps to get from official 6.0.1 to root status on an unlocked bootloader? I can't do anything to go back to previous firmwares and it seems I have to unlock as the only way to get anywhere.
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I tried flashing the TWRP from the site of TWRP but it results in blank screen. Also XZDR is not compatible with Marshmallow.
Did you already backup your TA? You can only do this by obtaining root so it is a must to flash previous FW (KK or LP) then root and backup your TA partion unless you don't care for your DRM keys.
1. Go to http://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/unlock-yourboot-loader/ and follow instructions to unlock your bootloader. Alternatively you can use flashtool (just search here in the forums).
2. Download a TWRP image of Scorpion Windy (Z3 Tablet Wifi) https://twrp.me/devices/sonyxperiaz3tabetcompact.html
3. Download older versions of SuperSU. Systemless root doesn't seem to work with Xperia Stock so you go the system way, older versions are preferred. Will attach the zip I used.
3. Flash MM FW by Flashtool, do initial setup.
4. Boot into fastboot, fastboot the TWRP image you downloaded. Reboot and you should be in recovery
5. Flash the SuperSU. Flash also the RIC defeat zip. Reboot and you'll notice your just in TWRP.
6. Force shutdown.
7. Open flashtool flash the mM FW but only kernel and the FotaKernel, dont wipe anything. Reboot. It should start.
That worked for me.
After you, need to install busybox from playstore and the SELinux Changer app
P.s I can't attach any file however you can find everything i mentioned (Zips) here at XDA and TWRP. I still need to enable init.d but I guess that's difficult with stock rom stock kernel. Oh, and you can install flashfire in substitute of your recovery. Be careful with flashing Zips after you have a stable system since you don't have recovery and therefore no Nandroid backup

infinitylook said:
I tried flashing the TWRP from the site of TWRP but it results in blank screen. Also XZDR is not compatible with Marshmallow.
Did you already backup your TA? You can only do this by obtaining root so it is a must to flash previous FW (KK or LP) then root and backup your TA partion unless you don't care for your DRM keys.
1. Go to http://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/unlock-yourboot-loader/ and follow instructions to unlock your bootloader. Alternatively you can use flashtool (just search here in the forums).
2. Download a TWRP image of Scorpion Windy (Z3 Tablet Wifi) https://twrp.me/devices/sonyxperiaz3tabetcompact.html
3. Download older versions of SuperSU. Systemless root doesn't seem to work with Xperia Stock so you go the system way, older versions are preferred. Will attach the zip I used.
3. Flash MM FW by Flashtool, do initial setup.
4. Boot into fastboot, fastboot the TWRP image you downloaded. Reboot and you should be in recovery
5. Flash the SuperSU. Flash also the RIC defeat zip. Reboot and you'll notice your just in TWRP.
6. Force shutdown.
7. Open flashtool flash the mM FW but only kernel and the FotaKernel, dont wipe anything. Reboot. It should start.
That worked for me.
After you, need to install busybox from playstore and the SELinux Changer app
P.s I can't attach any file however you can find everything i mentioned (Zips) here at XDA and TWRP. I still need to enable init.d but I guess that's difficult with stock rom stock kernel. Oh, and you can install flashfire in substitute of your recovery. Be careful with flashing Zips after you have a stable system since you don't have recovery and therefore no Nandroid backup
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Well then, I knew what I should have done before I lost root. In any case, what certain DRM keys would I be losing on the tablet? I know the biggest commotion on the phones were the camera algorithms.

GigaSPX said:
Well then, I knew what I should have done before I lost root. In any case, what certain DRM keys would I be losing on the tablet? I know the biggest commotion on the phones were the camera algorithms.
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You would lose camera algorithm (I don't care for that, it's a tablet and its pictures are bad from the start).
X-reality and display enhancements, sound and noise cancellation (This is i don't want to lose since i use mine mainly for graphic projects) and remote play. That's only what I remember, i don't know if I missed out something.

NO NEED TO UNLOCK THE BT, flash a MM prerooted zip you can make it yourself with prf you need the FTF, recroot and superSu.
Anyway if you still want unlock the bt backup the drm keys with backupta

dnnz said:
NO NEED TO UNLOCK THE BT, flash a MM prerooted zip you can make it yourself with prf you need the FTF, recroot and superSu.
Anyway if you still want unlock the bt backup the drm keys with backupta
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That won't work and would cause bootloop. tried the latest supersu. anyway, i found the workaround and it's been working good now.

infinitylook said:
You would lose camera algorithm (I don't care for that, it's a tablet and its pictures are bad from the start).
X-reality and display enhancements, sound and noise cancellation (This is i don't want to lose since i use mine mainly for graphic projects) and remote play. That's only what I remember, i don't know if I missed out something.
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Wow, yeah that's too dire for me to go forward to. I should've just stayed on lollipop since it was already what was best for me.

infinitylook said:
That won't work and would cause bootloop. tried the latest supersu. anyway, i found the workaround and it's been working good now.
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But but but if many did that without problem including me, check the th "when is mm out"

dnnz said:
But but but if many did that without problem including me, check the th "when is mm out"
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i willread on that. last timme i checked it out mostly devices are with sgp 612 (wifi) anyway thanks for the tip.
Can you give me the link on that thread? i checked the threads here on this device forum and they are for sgp 612 and 611 (wifi versions)

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