Does the Moto Z use the battery from the JBL Soundboost? - Moto Z Questions & Answers

Does the Moto Z pull from the JBL Soundboost battery once the Z's internal battery is drained? I've been seeing the JBL mod battery level stay the same while I've been using the Z's battery.

I had mine playing at work today, I killed the JBL battery in about 3 hours of full volume. the phone was only down to 85%. I hooked up the charger and it would not charge the JBL until the phone was fully charged. So then I just charged the JBL on its own and it charged fast. I then used it on the charger the rest of the day.

TwoBuells said:
I had mine playing at work today, I killed the JBL battery in about 3 hours of full volume. the phone was only down to 85%. I hooked up the charger and it would not charge the JBL until the phone was fully charged. So then I just charged the JBL on its own and it charged fast. I then used it on the charger the rest of the day.
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Thanks for the reply, good to know that's how it works if the Soundboost is drained.
I'm asking about the opposite scenario - my phone is almost drained, while the Soundboost still has 72% battery remaining, and wondering if my phone will power down, or if it will remain on while using the Soundboost battery.

jmchnaway said:
Thanks for the reply, good to know that's how it works if the Soundboost is drained.
I'm asking about the opposite scenario - my phone is almost drained, while the Soundboost still has 72% battery remaining, and wondering if my phone will power down, or if it will remain on while using the Soundboost battery.
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it will not power your phone, and your phone will still power down....
my phone was st 6% and I threw on the JBL, played Pandora while the phone just sat idle while I did some houseeork,, after about 1.5 hours then phone was down to 1% and JBL at 60%..phone died within seconds of me turning on screen....
checked at vzw store about any settings change that could be done and was told JBL cant provide backup juice.

Mangu said:
it will not power your phone, and your phone will still power down....
my phone was st 6% and I threw on the JBL, played Pandora while the phone just sat idle while I did some houseeork,, after about 1.5 hours then phone was down to 1% and JBL at 60%..phone died within seconds of me turning on screen....
checked at vzw store about any settings change that could be done and was told JBL cant provide backup juice.
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Thanks for confirming. Seems counterintuitive since you won't be able to use the Soundboost without the phone.

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Charge questions.

H, I just got the x10a. I have some questions about the process of charging the phone.
With my last 2 phones, an k850 and a xperia x1a i learned to charge the phone every night. I arrived at home, plugged the phones to their chargers , sleep. Wake up, went to work at 7, battery was at 100% every morning.
Now with the x10a, i arrive at home, battery is almost at 40% aprox, plug the phone to the charger, and go to sleep, wake up at the same time and battery is always at 60~70%, with the cable and back of phone running hot. Yesterday went to see the phone status at 11pm, battery was at 90%, went to sleep, wake up at 4am checked the phone and battery was at 52%, so instead of charging, was discharging, is this normal behavior? I removed the battery and put it on again and the charge jumped to 85%.
All of this is normal?
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pendejerto said:
H, I just got the x10a. I have some questions about the process of charging the phone.
With my last 2 phones, an k850 and a xperia x1a i learned to charge the phone every night. I arrived at home, plugged the phones to their chargers , sleep. Wake up, went to work at 7, battery was at 100% every morning.
Now with the x10a, i arrive at home, battery is almost at 40% aprox, plug the phone to the charger, and go to sleep, wake up at the same time and battery is always at 60~70%, with the cable and back of phone running hot. Yesterday went to see the phone status at 11pm, battery was at 90%, went to sleep, wake up at 4am checked the phone and battery was at 52%, so instead of charging, was discharging, is this normal behavior? I removed the battery and put it on again and the charge jumped to 85%.
All of this is normal?
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Never saw that with my phone. Don't think its normal
pendejerto said:
All of this is normal?
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Kind of if it's new, cycle the battery a few times and it should sort itself out.
Yeah the same thing happens to me. I checked juice plotter and at 2:30 am, I'm fully charged then at 5:00 am, I'm at 70 percent. The it repeats the cycle.
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pendejerto said:
H, I just got the x10a. I have some questions about the process of charging the phone.
With my last 2 phones, an k850 and a xperia x1a i learned to charge the phone every night. I arrived at home, plugged the phones to their chargers , sleep. Wake up, went to work at 7, battery was at 100% every morning.
Now with the x10a, i arrive at home, battery is almost at 40% aprox, plug the phone to the charger, and go to sleep, wake up at the same time and battery is always at 60~70%, with the cable and back of phone running hot. Yesterday went to see the phone status at 11pm, battery was at 90%, went to sleep, wake up at 4am checked the phone and battery was at 52%, so instead of charging, was discharging, is this normal behavior? I removed the battery and put it on again and the charge jumped to 85%.
All of this is normal?
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That is very odd.. has someone timed how long it takes for the battery to get to 100% Just today I got the please charge now message.. it took 2 hours give or take to get to 100% it maybe you need to cycle the battery. I am using my blackberry 9700 battery charger ( OEM one was left in my hotel room ) The blackberry is output 5VDC and 700mA.
I've noticed that charging the phone using a USB port takes a lot more time that when using an AC/DC adaptor. The USB ports on my PC give out 100 milliamps while the AC/DC adaptor that came with the phone gives out 700 milliamps. Are you charging using a PC USB port or an AC/DC adaptor?
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I've had this happen a few times I plug the phone in at night & when I wake up it's still charging and warm. I now shut my phone off before plugging in the charger & have not had the problem. My guess is some process is running in the background preventing it from properly charging.
ya just cycle the battery few times and it should be okay. it should be noted that the x10 will charge to 100% and stop charging until the battery drops down to 90% (at least for me)
Phone off worked!
Had a same weird issue after 5 months of usage. First 5 months were fine (needed to charge once every 24 hours). Have noticed in past 2-3 days that when I leave it for chanrging overnight, it does not go to 100%. Sometimes it would go upto 76%, other time 86 and so on. Cannot understand this. Have not installed anything in last 2-3 days either. Do not know the root cause but solution suggested by Phoneguy above worked. That is, I put netwrok setting OFF and then switch my phone OFF. Then I plugin phone to charger and start charging. This way it is getting charged to 100%. Hopefully this workaround will last for another year, at least
zhoustanley said:
ya just cycle the battery few times and it should be okay. it should be noted that the x10 will charge to 100% and stop charging until the battery drops down to 90% (at least for me)
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Mine does the same thing. I checked with battery graph. It charged to 100% and then it'd stop and drop to 90% and charged back to 100%, in repeated cycles. Is this just a X10 thing? I want to have 100% before leaving the house!
outie said:
Mine does the same thing. I checked with battery graph. It charged to 100% and then it'd stop and drop to 90% and charged back to 100%, in repeated cycles. Is this just a X10 thing? I want to have 100% before leaving the house!
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This is normal and for Security. When you leave the Phone charging when it has 100 it stops Charging until 90 or something then charge again becouse if it wouldnt do it your Battery will run too hot and could make real damage.
outie said:
Mine does the same thing. I checked with battery graph. It charged to 100% and then it'd stop and drop to 90% and charged back to 100%, in repeated cycles. Is this just a X10 thing? I want to have 100% before leaving the house!
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The phone actively discharges the battery when plugged in. I've tried the above suggestions and they worked, but only found small success as the battery wouldn't charge past 40%. Now my phone will not boot and the battery is completely drained.
I called SE North America last night and they told me that I broke the battery. I called BS and they then told me that they'll send me a free new battery as a courtesy despite it not being covered in the warranty. Overall, a pretty good experience, but the key point the rep said was to not trickle charge the battery.
I do have a sneaking suspision that it's not the battery because it's only 5 months old, but good because they didn't say anything about the phone not being officially released in the US and not being supported by a warranty.
I hope this post doesn't get deleted as well...lolz.
here it is my graph for the last day, plugged the charger aroung 4pm batt was at 13%, in the office and around 8pm from home, if you see, from 8:44pm to 9:41pm the batt was at 100% an then it goes down and reach 60% at 3am, so it was discharging, and then it tried to charge to reach 100% but couldnt. at 6:30am i woke up and bat was at 78%. so, how can i get it to keep the charge, i dont mind going form 90 to 100 but not going from 100 to 60 and to 100.
anybody can help?

Strange battery behaviour

My battery on my 10i is acting kind of strange.
It has happened several times now that the phone even when charged from the charger that comes with the phone, not from a pc its not charging properly.
I wake up the phone is on 100% i deside to "snooze" for an hour when i then get up the battery was on 40%, still in the charger Today almost the same only that i woke up to a battery that was on 94% even after 8 hours of charging.
Sometimes the battery life on it is good other days its not. Iv checked if there is any program running that is consuming an awfull lot of power but there aren't.
Is this the battery failing?
U5tabil said:
My battery on my 10i is acting kind of strange.
It has happened several times now that the phone even when charged from the charger that comes with the phone, not from a pc its not charging properly.
I wake up the phone is on 100% i deside to "snooze" for an hour when i then get up the battery was on 40%, still in the charger Today almost the same only that i woke up to a battery that was on 94% even after 8 hours of charging.
Sometimes the battery life on it is good other days its not. Iv checked if there is any program running that is consuming an awfull lot of power but there aren't.
Is this the battery failing?
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What you can do is install xrecovery from Z on it. And then charge is to 100% and run the reset battery fron xrecovery.
Btw, when u charge the phone it is normall that it will drop a little bit when it's at 100%, it will go down to maybe 95% and then up again.
But a drop from 10u0% to 40% is not healty.. you could download the app SystemPanal. it will monitor what your phone is doing and thereby also your battery.
Silooy said:
What you can do is install xrecovery from Z on it. And then charge is to 100% and run the reset battery fron xrecovery.
Btw, when u charge the phone it is normall that it will drop a little bit when it's at 100%, it will go down to maybe 95% and then up again.
But a drop from 10u0% to 40% is not healty.. you could download the app SystemPanal. it will monitor what your phone is doing and thereby also your battery.
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I have xRecovery on it and i did the reset battery, even did a new rom update. and i use the systempanel pro for monitoring to see if there is anything that is consuming to much power but i haven't found anything yet.
its now gone from 94% to 90% (wifi on) since i got up for about 2 hours ago. Not that bad now it seems. But sometimes it just drops and drops.
Maybe i should just get a new battery, they aren't that expencive.
U5tabil said:
I have xRecovery on it and i did the reset battery, even did a new rom update. and i use the systempanel pro for monitoring to see if there is anything that is consuming to much power but i haven't found anything yet.
its now gone from 94% to 90% (wifi on) since i got up for about 2 hours ago. Not that bad now it seems. But sometimes it just drops and drops.
Maybe i should just get a new battery, they aren't that expencive.
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Well 4% with 2 hours is good with wifi on. But yeah it's weird that it drops that hard sometimes. Probably the battery itself then..
How much is a battery btw?
Silooy said:
Well 4% with 2 hours is good with wifi on. But yeah it's weird that it drops that hard sometimes. Probably the battery itself then..
How much is a battery btw?
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For me i see it is around 220NOK wich should be around 40$ around 4 beers...

Battery issues part 2

So the original battery in my phone.. well... sucked. When I pulled the phone off the charger it would jump down to 93% no matter how long it was on the charger etc. Any attempt to bump charge was thwarted in the fact that I cant charge the phone when its off (it automatically turns on and boots into CWM). Wiping the battery stats when the battery read 100% in the OS would still result in the above.
So I ordered that 1600mah battery from Seidio. Ran the charge out of it yesterday and charged it to full during the evening/night. Wake up this morning, pull the charger out of the phone, and BOOM 100% power. Not 93%...
So was it my old battery that was bad or was there something wrong with how the phone saw its power rating?
From what I've seen with the phone, it drops down to 90% or so before it starts charging again, but it won't ever have the display show a battery decrease while plugged in.
Russ36363 said:
From what I've seen with the phone, it drops down to 90% or so before it starts charging again, but it won't ever have the display show a battery decrease while plugged in.
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Right but I can watch the meter go all the way to 100%... pull the plug and it goes down to 93% within seconds.
funny thing phone did the same thing...took it off the charger this morn and it dropped down to 95
I'm at 99% after about 2.5hrs of mostly idle usage. I've been just rebooting the phone with it on the charger in the morning, give it about 15-20 minutes and usually it'll stick at 100
"I'm at 99% after about 2.5hrs of mostly idle usage. I've been just rebooting the phone with it on the charger in the morning, give it about 15-20 minutes and usually it'll stick at 100"
same here
probotic said:
"I'm at 99% after about 2.5hrs of mostly idle usage. I've been just rebooting the phone with it on the charger in the morning, give it about 15-20 minutes and usually it'll stick at 100"
same here
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All you are doing is semi-bumb charging it, which is fine if you really must have that extra 1hour of battery, but be warned, doing it constantly will damage your battery over time. that is the reason the phone has built in charging/decharge in the first place.
The reality is if your phone is sitting idle, that 5% wont matter at all once your phone attunes to your battery, and if your using the phone so heavily that your going dead long before the day is done (after attunement) then the 5% still wont matter !
i was having the same issues - 90% right after unplugging. had to charge the phone 3 times in ONE day and i never even touched the phone the whole day except to check the battery percentage.
brought it into verizon, they gave me a new battery and now it lasts me the entire day. when i pull the plug out now, it drops steadily like a normal battery should. i tried bump charging before i brought it in and it didn't help at all
The same thing has been happening to my dads Thunderbolt.
He charged it overnight, took it to work and was losing about 1% per minute without touching the phone. The only time it was touched was about 1 timer per hour to take down the battery percentage for his log.
He took it to the verizon store and they told him he should not expect anything longer than 4 hours of battery life without touching the phone..what kind of BS is that?
psufan5 said:
So the original battery in my phone.. well... sucked. When I pulled the phone off the charger it would jump down to 93% no matter how long it was on the charger etc. Any attempt to bump charge was thwarted in the fact that I cant charge the phone when its off (it automatically turns on and boots into CWM). Wiping the battery stats when the battery read 100% in the OS would still result in the above.
So I ordered that 1600mah battery from Seidio. Ran the charge out of it yesterday and charged it to full during the evening/night. Wake up this morning, pull the charger out of the phone, and BOOM 100% power. Not 93%...
So was it my old battery that was bad or was there something wrong with how the phone saw its power rating?
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I'm having the exact opposite problem with the batteries--just ordered two of the 1600 Seidios that delivered yesterday and even after running pretty much down, fully charging overnite with the T-bolt powered down, drops to 95% immediately. Conversely, the OEM battery would stay at 100% for hours if the phone was idle (screen off / receiving any emails and SMS). Go figger.
There is a post in the Android Central forums on the 1600 battery compared to stock. After testing, they found that the two perform almost identically. Basically, it isn't worth replacing unless you go with the big HTC extended battery. Although having a spare isn't a bad idea. If only that battery door wasn't so tough to pry off when you need to change it...
nexus s had the same problem its nothing big though
bashir1102 said:
All you are doing is semi-bumb charging it, which is fine if you really must have that extra 1hour of battery, but be warned, doing it constantly will damage your battery over time. that is the reason the phone has built in charging/decharge in the first place.
The reality is if your phone is sitting idle, that 5% wont matter at all once your phone attunes to your battery, and if your using the phone so heavily that your going dead long before the day is done (after attunement) then the 5% still wont matter !
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Most of us probably won't have the phones long enough to see any possible damage. Starting off at a full 100% is a lot better than immediately dropping to 95 or so after pulling it off charger. It's kind of like the gas gauge in my truck. Stays full a while but once it moves off of full you can watch it drop. lol

[Q] Battery Fully Charged Notifications?

Does Galaxy Ace shows a notification when battery is fully charged ? Yesterday I got a new Ace, I kept it for charging for around 3-4hrs.. The battery indicator shows the battery full, but notification on the homescreen(when its locked) showed its charging..
How am I suppose to understand its fully charged..?
Yes, normally a notification should appear when the battery is fully charged!
How much hours does it take to fully charge if the battery is around 5%?
The battery isn't fully charged until you don't get a notification (both sound and green icon on the top-left corner). That's even if you see the indicator showing 100%
Wow..my battery is still blue.. in the right hand corner.. How long does it takes to fully charge?
Depending on ROM / mods, your battery icon may look different. But a notification should show up after around 3 hours.
MPAI said:
How much hours does it take to fully charge if the battery is around 5%?
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Well that depends, wether you're charging via USB or the wall-charger (I don't really know the name of that thing xD )
USB charging requires more time, I've tried and it took me about 4-5 hours to full charge the phone.
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Ok..Last nite... I charged for 3-4 hrs.. but didnt get any notification..maybe I will try it today..Is it ok to leave it on charge over-nite? Maybe 6-7 hrs after a full deplete..?
Have you tried to reflash your ROM? There's maybe something wrong within the kernel.
And about charging overnight... I doubt that's a safe thing to do..
Used to charge my old phone overnight everytime and now it's battery depleted within 4 hours after a full charge.
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well, certainly not on froyo. probably only ginger has it in-built-i get it on galaxy s (ginger) but not on Ace (froyo).
Hey!
You can charge it over night. And it shows notification in home screen CHARGED!
CHEERS!
@rhadrio I havent re flashed it..just got it yesterday.
I guess the battery nowadays have no -ve effect, if we over charge them.. ? Any one can confirm this?
MPAI said:
@rhadrio I havent re flashed it..just got it yesterday.
I guess the battery nowadays have no -ve effect, if we over charge them.. ? Any one can confirm this?
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Of course its NOT good, if you OVER CHARGE it every time. And for correcting battery stats, you need to calibrate it(you must be ROOTED, before use BATTERY CALIBRATOR[free from MARKET]). But still I suggest to use it(BATTERY CALIBRATOR) only if you get too fastley drain you battery(I mean, if you see that you battery getting worst or similar).
CHEERS!
I haven't rooted it yet. I will charge it overnite today & lets see if its works better tomorrow..
Batteries now have built-in overcharging prevention. No worries.
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Well.. I kept it over nite.. In the morning I saw a notification on the phone as "Charged", but I am not sure how many hours did it take to charge it.
I dont know about battery issue aftr overnight charging.....but i used to charge my 5800 overnight daily, i used 2 and hlf years but nothing happend to batry or batry back up...
and if u charge yor ACE with AC charger it will take min 4 hours as our chargers are 0.7A
and if u charge with USB ur cell will get completly charged in half time compared to AC charger
nilayiscool said:
and if u charge yor ACE with AC charger it will take min 4 hours as our chargers are 0.7A
and if u charge with USB ur cell will get completly charged in half time compared to AC charger
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...nope! usb is 500 mA (0.5 A) max - in best case, depending on mode etc. so AC charger is faster as it's 0.7 A. max 3-4 hrs here on ac.

Original battery problem

So I usually use two extended batteries and swap them using an external charger.haven't charged my phone itself in a while.
The last two times I came to user the original battery after full charges, it only shows up as 83% even though the charger shows a green light.
I know the enlightened battery uses 2% to power up this sucker, does the original use up 13% or is three something wrong with the battery? Not using ICS either just Nils GB.
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So I usually use two extended batteries and swap them using an external charger.haven't charged my phone itself in a while.
The last two times I came to user the original battery after full charges, it only shows up as 83% even though the charger shows a green light.
I know the enlightened battery uses 2% to power up this sucker, does the original use up 13% or is three something wrong with the battery? Not using ICS either just Nils GB.
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I haven't tried charging my original battery in an external charger yet. Though I'll look into testing my 2 extended batteries vs. the original to see what the phone tells me.
My extended batteries are both 3.7 volt and my stock phone battery is a 3.8 volt.
Doesn't sound normal, however. I expect the power up to suck 1 or 2 percent of power from a battery not 13 percent.
yeah, so everytime I take it off the external charger and turn on the phone it goes to 83% but if I remove the battery in the middle of the day and restart the phone it just goes down 1%. I can fully charge the battery in the phone though.
I am stumped.
couchmonkey said:
yeah, so everytime I take it off the external charger and turn on the phone it goes to 83% but if I remove the battery in the middle of the day and restart the phone it just goes down 1%. I can fully charge the battery in the phone though.
I am stumped.
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Is your phone rooted? If it is you can use battery monitor apps to analyze your batteries from 0 - 100 percent charge and correctly monitor and adjust charging through your phone.
It has something to do with the fact that the original batteries for the Rezound are 3.8 volt. This slightly increases the capacity for these but also confuses the hell out of the charging circuits that are either in the battery or in the phone itself so it never fully charges correctly. The phone is misreading the battery capacity so once it hits a certain voltage it stops charging and displays a green led.
Don't quote me, but this is what it sounds like to my limited knowledge of such things.
Try charging your battery in your phone while it is off and see if it charges fully.

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