First, thanks for taking the time to read this helping! The wife and I both have stock Verizon G3 on build 23C. So far, the G3 is the only phone I HAVEN'T rooted, but we both hate LP. Will someone tell me what to do to get back to either stock KK or, more preferred, a debloated version of it? I've tried looking for it, but there's just so much data here!
Again, thanks in advance.
cbanning said:
First, thanks for taking the time to read this helping! The wife and I both have stock Verizon G3 on build 23C. So far, the G3 is the only phone I HAVEN'T rooted, but we both hate LP. Will someone tell me what to do to get back to either stock KK or, more preferred, a debloated version of it? I've tried looking for it, but there's just so much data here!
Again, thanks in advance.
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This post here will get you back to stock KK. Download the 12b KDZ at the bottom of the first post. I don't believe anyone released a debloated stock ROM, although there are some stock based ROMs that come without the bloat.
I think he forgot to post the link, maybe? http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
I think he forgot to post the link, maybe? http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
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I did forget, thanks!
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I did forget, thanks!
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You're welcome! Lucky for me you had just posted the link in the previous thread I read.
Thank you both. Gonna try it on my phone tonight
Why are you wanting to go back? I'm thinking of flashing the lollipop kdz to update. No ota for me because I'm not on Verizon.
Any reason I should hold off on lollipop and just root 12b?
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I got a friend who has a lg g3 and is on vs98547A. No root. Is it possible to downgrade from 47A to at least 10B or to an os that can be rooted. Thanks
Please don't post the same question in multiple threads. This, however, was the correct place to post it.
If you don't care about having root and custom recovery, then you can downgrade one of three ways, but I'll only discuss the first two ways as the third way is more complicated and more focused on those who need a "last-ditch" effort to downgrade and get TWRP put on.
1. You can downgrade from 46A or 47A to 35B by flashing the 35B KDZ with LG Flash Tool 2014.
2. You can downgrade to any KDZ previous to 35B (10B, 12B, 23C or 24B) by first flashing the 10B TOT using the 35B .DLL, and then you can flash whatever KDZ you like.
If you do want to be rooted and have a custom recovery, then go with option #2 as far as flashing the 10B TOT using the 35B .DLL, root with the Stump app, then use TWRP Manager from the Play Store to flash TWRP, then you can flash whatever ROM you want.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Please don't post the same question in multiple threads. This, however, was the correct place to post it.
If you don't care about having root and custom recovery, then you can downgrade one of three ways, but I'll only discuss the first two ways as the third way is more complicated and more focused on those who need a "last-ditch" effort to downgrade and get TWRP put on.
1. You can downgrade from 46A or 47A to 35B by flashing the 35B KDZ with LG Flash Tool 2014.
2. You can downgrade to any KDZ previous to 35B (10B, 12B, 23C or 24B) by first flashing the 10B TOT using the 35B .DLL, and then you can flash whatever KDZ you like.
If you do want to be rooted and have a custom recovery, then go with option #2 as far as flashing the 10B TOT using the 35B .DLL, root with the Stump app, then use TWRP Manager from the Play Store to flash TWRP, then you can flash whatever ROM you want.
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ok sorry for muti. threds, did not know how much support is on the g3 since the phone has been out for more then 2 years i think. ok i understand that i can downgrade to 35B, once on 35B you saying i can dwngrade to 10B if i wanted to, if so cool, now what i dont understand is flashing 10B TOT useing the 35B DLL, i never heard of somthing like that
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ok sorry for muti. threds, did not know how much support is on the g3 since the phone has been out for more then 2 years i think. ok i understand that i can downgrade to 35B, once on 35B you saying i can dwngrade to 10B if i wanted to, if so cool, now what i dont understand is flashing 10B TOT useing the 35B DLL, i never heard of somthing like that
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No problem.
No, I meant something different.
From 35B, 46A or 47A, you can only flash KDZs 35B and higher. The only way to downgrade to lower than 35B from 35B, 46A or 47A is to use the 10B TOT with the 35B .DLL.
You don't have to go to 35B first in order to get to 10B. For some reason when I was replying at first I forgot you said about "so you can root".
TOTs are like KDZs but actually they flash more partitions than KDZs do, and they use a different program and instructions to flash. You can find all the KDZs and the only TOT we have, along with the 35B .DLL in my Android File Host section which I link to from @annoyingduck 's stickied return to stock thread in the General section, also the first link in my signature below. The software to flash TOTs you'll have to Google for.
We used to use a different .DLL to flash the 10B TOT, but it didn't work once we got to 35B. A user found that using the .DLL that's extracted from the 35B KDZ enabled us to use the TOT method on 35B and above (so far) again.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
No problem.
No, I meant something different.
From 35B, 46A or 47A, you can only flash KDZs 35B and higher. The only way to downgrade to lower than 35B from 35B, 46A or 47A is to use the 10B TOT with the 35B .DLL.
You don't have to go to 35B first in order to get to 10B. For some reason when I was replying at first I forgot you said about "so you can root".
TOTs are like KDZs but actually they flash more partitions than KDZs do, and they use a different program and instructions to flash. You can find all the KDZs and the only TOT we have, along with the 35B .DLL in my Android File Host section which I link to from @annoyingduck 's stickied return to stock thread in the General section, also the first link in my signature below. The software to flash TOTs you'll have to Google for.
We used to use a different .DLL to flash the 10B TOT, but it didn't work once we got to 35B. A user found that using the .DLL that's extracted from the 35B KDZ enabled us to use the TOT method on 35B and above (so far) again.
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ok i be doing some reading here and there, now as for the TOT will LGUP tool work with the LG G3 so i can refurbish the phone or upgrade so it can be on 10B. if i am right, good, if not like i said i do some reading around first aand see i can understand it
i know i got to find the 10Btot with 35B DLL. hope to find it
its ok that you forget, its morning
LASERWOLF452 said:
ok i be doing some reading here and there, now as for the TOT will LGUP tool work with the LG G3 so i can refurbish the phone or upgrade so it can be on 10B. if i am right, good, if not like i said i do some reading around first aand see i can understand it
i know i got to find the 10Btot with 35B DLL. hope to find it
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I tried LGUp once. I couldn't get it to work. To my understanding, it's for the D855 variant only, but I could be wrong. There's a link at the top of the second post of that stickied thread I mentioned to some TOT directions, but the OP of that thread doesn't maintain it any more so I don't know if any links to the flashing software, etc, work, but you might at least get an idea of what you're looking for there.
its ok that you forget, its morning
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LOL!
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
I tried LGUp once. I couldn't get it to work. To my understanding, it's for the D855 variant only, but I could be wrong. There's a link at the top of the second post of that stickied thread I mentioned to some TOT directions, but the OP of that thread doesn't maintain it any more so I don't know if any links to the flashing software, etc, work, but you might at least get an idea of what you're looking for there.
LOL!
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can i use this then for the downgrade or no, i got 13 tabs open and still looking around
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/verizon-lg-g3-one-toolkit-vs985-root-t3124846
LASERWOLF452 said:
can i use this then for the downgrade or no, i got 13 tabs open and still looking around
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I have no personal experience with that. To my understanding, it's basically a central repository for all things needed for different aspects of doing things with the VS985 - it makes use of the same individual tools that are available outside the toolkit. It may work for what you need.
I've preferred to use the tools necessary to do what needs doing, directly.
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I have no personal experience with that. To my understanding, it's basically a central repository for all things needed for different aspects of doing things with the VS985 - it makes use of the same individual tools that are available outside the toolkit. It may work for what you need.
I've preferred to use the tools necessary to do what needs doing, directly.
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i can try out the tool kit and see how it will do for me. i am still lost on this downgrade process at the moment and i don't wont to bother you with 20 questions on your method, if the took kit works for me i will still give you credit for helping out, even tho i said friend, i want to upgrade my g3 to 47A so i can mess with the downgrade process and make a youtube video walk through to help people who has no idea to do this like me at the moment, but i do the homework figuring out things till i understand them
here is a video how to do the V10 vs990 root and i had a few people said i helped out along with lg G4 root and all, i still give credit to people who do those methods.
https://youtu.be/orCP9Y7LQD4
my phone has never been on 47A i am on 35B using jasmine Rom, i was on 12B at the first with my g3 stock, can i KDZ 47A to my G3 and have no issues or what?
LASERWOLF452 said:
i can try out the tool kit and see how it will do for me. i am still lost on this downgrade process at the moment and i don't wont to bother you with 20 questions on your method, if the took kit works for me i will still give you credit for helping out, even tho i said friend, i want to upgrade my g3 to 47A so i can mess with the downgrade process and make a youtube video walk through to help people who has no idea to do this like me at the moment, but i do the homework figuring out things till i understand them
here is a video how to do the V10 vs990 root and i had a few people said i helped out along with lg G4 root and all, i still give credit to people who do those methods.
my phone has never been on 47A i am on 35B using jasmine Rom, i was on 12B at the first with my g3 stock, can i KDZ 47A to my G3 and have no issues or what?
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Yes, on any stock ROM earlier than 35B you can flash any VS985 KDZ.
Good luck!
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Yes, on any stock ROM earlier than 35B you can flash any VS985 KDZ.
Good luck!
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i hope it comes to a success, if so i send you a message letting you know how well it goes, thank you for the help bro
LASERWOLF452 said:
i hope it comes to a success, if so i send you a message letting you know how well it goes, thank you for the help bro
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You're welcome!
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You're welcome!
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ok i cant get that method to work. so i go with yours, if i ask noob questions, or something dumb i am sorry, i have a learning disability and i understand things better when its broken down. i do learn from what i been told and as i mess with it as you show me i will understand it. depending tho. so when you get time can you help me get to 10B i do know computers really well but the thing i am weak at is understanding your method
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ok i cant get that method to work. so i go with yours, if i ask noob questions, or something dumb i am sorry, i have a learning disability and i understand things better when its broken down. i do learn from what i been told and as i mess with it as you show me i will understand it. depending tho. so when you get time can you help me get to 10B i do know computers really well but the thing i am weak at is understanding your method
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The first search result "TOT Method | LG Flash Tool Guide" at:
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=tot%20method, except you'll need this .DLL https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24421527759885198 instead of "LGVS985_20140620_LGFLASHv160.dllLGVS985_20140620_LGFLASHv160.dll".
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
The first search result "TOT Method | LG Flash Tool Guide" at:
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=tot%20method, except you'll need this .DLL https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24421527759885198 instead of "LGVS985_20140620_LGFLASHv160.dllLGVS985_20140620_LGFLASHv160.dll".
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thank you so much, it is back on 10B and now i be making a video, you are going to get a huge thanks for this , sadly i do not know how to pronounce your name
LASERWOLF452 said:
thank you so much, it is back on 10B and now i be making a video, you are going to get a huge thanks for this , sadly i do not know how to pronounce your name
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You're welcome! Glad things went as planned. No problem really.
My handle is like the second Mad Max movie "The Road Warrior"
Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior (1981), but backwards. I have "Road" mispelled "rode" on purpose. Someone called me the road warrior in the Army 30 years ago this year. When I got out of the Army I started using it on computer "bulletin boards" (BBS), but backwards just to be different.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
You're welcome! Glad things went as planned. No problem really.
My handle is like the second Mad Max movie "The Road Warrior"
Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior (1981), but backwards. I have "Road" mispelled "rode" on purpose. Someone called me the road warrior in the Army 30 years ago this year. When I got out of the Army I started using it on computer "bulletin boards" (BBS), but backwards just to be different.
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lol nice i was sitting here like how do you say his name, i see it now, cool i like that, well i am working on the video now and hope this will help a friend with there phone to. thanks again bro and i make sure they know to hit that thanks button
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
You're welcome! Glad things went as planned. No problem really.
My handle is like the second Mad Max movie "The Road Warrior"
Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior (1981), but backwards. I have "Road" mispelled "rode" on purpose. Someone called me the road warrior in the Army 30 years ago this year. When I got out of the Army I started using it on computer "bulletin boards" (BBS), but backwards just to be different.
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i want to let you know that for the time i been owning the LGG3, i want to thank you for your help, when i was looking at my older post how to root and upgraded to 12B. i saw your post that you helped me with the G3 alot, so every time i make a video about the G3 i give you thanks on the video, i just posted one and realized i said nothing so i added it on the description for the LG root. so ya bro, thank you for all what you have done and i really do thank you for the help. you are awesome i dont care what anyone says keep up the awesome work bro
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i want to let you know that for the time i been owning the LGG3, i want to thank you for your help, when i was looking at my older post how to root and upgraded to 12B. i saw your post that you helped me with the G3 alot, so every time i make a video about the G3 i give you thanks on the video, i just posted one and realized i said nothing so i added it on the description for the LG root. so ya bro, thank you for all what you have done and i really do thank you for the help. you are awesome i dont care what anyone says keep up the awesome work bro
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You're very welcome! Thank you for the kind words. Cheers mate.
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thank you so much, it is back on 10B and now i be making a video, you are going to get a huge thanks for this , sadly i do not know how to pronounce your name
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hi there, i was curious do you posting these videos? i can't seem to find them anywhere. thanks
This is a stock phone that hasnt been rooted or had twrp on it... Can you guys please tell me exactly what to download to get it rooted and get twrp on it so i can flash my rom of choice? I did this to my old g3 and flashed all the new ones till i broke it and when i ended up with replacement its all stock on 6.0 and now I have no clue what to do to get it bk like the new phone... help please..
Hi!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=67945841
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This is a stock phone that hasnt been rooted or had twrp on it... Can you guys please tell me exactly what to download to get it rooted and get twrp on it so i can flash my rom of choice? I did this to my old g3 and flashed all the new ones till i broke it and when i ended up with replacement its all stock on 6.0 and now I have no clue what to do to get it bk like the new phone... help please..
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Makes a big difference if it's a 985k series or not. The 'k' phones seem to be booby trapped to not allow a rollback in order to root them etc.
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Makes a big difference if it's a 985k series or not. The 'k' phones seem to be booby trapped to not allow a rollback in order to root them etc.
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Except the "K" variants that still have the v1 motherboard, right? Or was it the other way around? I think it was the first way.
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This is a stock phone
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By the way, please post question threads in the Q&A section. I'll ask a moderator to move this thread. Thanks!
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Except the "K" variants that still have the v1 motherboard, right? Or was it the other way around? I think it was the first way.
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It's a bit confusing, as the most recent pcbs are etched "VS985 PCB v1.0 (2)." Which we might consider as version 1, revision 2. So there doesn't seem to be a version 2.
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roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Except the "K" variants that still have the v1 motherboard, right? Or was it the other way around? I think it was the first way.
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No, it's actually that there can be a "(2)" (revision, whatever) PCB without the K markings. "K" is a guarantee of a r2 PCB though.
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No, it's actually that there can be a "(2)" (revision, whatever) PCB without the K markings. "K" is a guarantee of a r2 PCB though.
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Ah, right, thanks!
Hi- I'm trying to help a friend recover some accidentally-deleted photos from internal memory, and unfortunately it seems that I need root access to image that. She's running VS9854BA, and none of the rooting methods I've found so far seem to support it. I tried Kingroot as a last resort as well, but it wasn't able to successfully root, either.
Are there any other options besides downgrading the OS to a more exploitable version? I would just proceed with that, but I'm worried about the downgrade putting too much churn on the disk and overwriting the areas we're trying to recover from.
Can anyone suggest any other options?
thanks in advance!
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Are there any other options besides downgrading the OS to a more exploitable version?
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No. Downgrading is the only option, but only if you don't have revision 2 hardware along with a "K" variant, which if memory serves, is indicated underneath the battery beside the tiny VS985 such as VS985WK.
If there's a K anywhere after the VS985, then you can't downgrade at all (would likely brick it), and therefore no root.
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No. Downgrading is the only option
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Bummer. I had previously checked for a K after reading as much as I could from you and the other very helpful forum members, so I knew we were ok there, but now I feel a bit better about not being able to find any documentation on rooting that particular version.
Anyway, despite the bad news, thanks again for the help with this!
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Anyway, despite the bad news, thanks again for the help with this!
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You're welcome!
Forgive me if I'm in the wrong forum or thread for this.
I had my VS985 G3 rooted with Lollipop but I unrooted to upgrade to Marshmallow a while back. Interested in rooting again but I'm having trouble finding a method for my build number, which is MRA58K. Android version is 6.0. I searched around and found methods for the 47A build but nothing for 58K. Does anyone know if there is a root method for the G3 with 6.0 and the MRA58K build?
Unfortunately not, 47A is the latest VS985 build number which has a root method available.
@jmillgrip questions go in the Q&A section. Report your own post to a moderator and ask them to move it there by clicking the /!\ icon on the lower left corner of your post.
If you do not have a "K" after the VS985 under the battery such as VS985WK, then you can downgrade via the VS985 10B TOT and root etc from there. They are literally dozens of threads that mention how to do this in the General and Q&A sections.
If your model does have a K somewhere after the VS985 (it won't show in Android's About menu, only under the battery), then you absolutely cannot downgrade or root once you're on Marshmallow.
Ok thanks. I reported the post to have it moved. Can I ask, if the 47A build is the latest one that has a root method then why wouldn't I downgrade to that instead of 10B?
I checked under the battery and there's is no K.
Thanks for your help!
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
@jmillgrip questions go in the Q&A section. Report your own post to a moderator and ask them to move it there by clicking the /!\ icon on the lower left corner of your post.
If you do not have a "K" after the VS985 under the battery such as VS985WK, then you can downgrade via the VS985 10B TOT and root etc from there. They are literally dozens of threads that mention how to do this in the General and Q&A sections.
If your model does have a K somewhere after the VS985 (it won't show in Android's About menu, only under the battery), then you absolutely cannot downgrade or root once you're on Marshmallow.
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I was mistaken. It's software version 4BA.
Moved to Q&A section.
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Ok thanks. I reported the post to have it moved. Can I ask, if the 47A build is the latest one that has a root method then why wouldn't I downgrade to that instead of 10B?
I checked under the battery and there's is no K.
Thanks for your help!
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Thanks for having it moved, and you're welcome! You're in the minority of people who actually have their posts moved even after I tell them how to do it.
I saw your other post about it being a build higher than 47A, but 1) I don't even remember being able to root 47A directly, 2) I moved on from this phone five months ago and no longer have it, 3) If 47A is able to be rooted, it was either through a workaround and was actually just an alternate method of downgrading so that you can root that I tested and posted about that was clunky at best but bricked a very few people, and permanently bricked maybe 2-3 people (but that was also before we knew about the "K" variant so that could've been a factor) AND/OR it involved KingRoot, which I recommend avoiding at all costs when possible, and 4) long story short - too late, it is just plain easiest to root and install TWRP from 10B. I apologize for over-explaining, it's just what I do.
Ok I see. I definitely don't want to do anything shifty. My phone is super stable and I like it that way. I just want root to get rid of bloatware mainly. 10b will take me back to Lollipop though correct? I really want to stay with Marshmallow.
Ok I think I understand. I downgrade to install TWRP and get root access. Then I can upgrade back to Marshmallow if I want?
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Ok I think I understand. I downgrade to install TWRP and get root access. Then I can upgrade back to Marshmallow if I want?
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that's correct. you'll need to flash a rom that's already rooted. XDABBEB's VS985 3.1.1 is a good one. you'll also need to flash the correct bootstack that goes with the rom. follow the instructions in the post and you should be good.
Thanks. The ROM seems cool. I'm just not totally understanding which bootstack is the correct one.
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Thanks. The ROM seems cool. I'm just not totally understanding which bootstack is the correct one.
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if you're going to flash that rom, you'll need the 35b bootstack. follow the instructions in the first post of that thread.
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that's correct. you'll need to flash a rom that's already rooted. XDABBEB's VS985 3.1.1 is a good one. you'll also need to flash the correct bootstack that goes with the rom. follow the instructions in the post and you should be good.
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wonderin if u might know any thing here
i picked one of these up it seems hardbrick i had it in hsloader mode been a while so now i dont know what firmware it was on to download to extract and rstore not famil with verizon phones.
im setup for flashing tots i have old lgflashtool but rite now the phone is still dead except when i ground out the pins i get again hsloader mode till i unplug it but i havent flashed anything in board diag yet
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wonderin if u might know any thing here
i picked one of these up it seems hardbrick i had it in hsloader mode been a while so now i dont know what firmware it was on to download to extract and rstore not famil with verizon phones.
im setup for flashing tots i have old lgflashtool but rite now the phone is still dead except when i ground out the pins i get again hsloader mode till i unplug it but i havent flashed anything in board diag yet
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sorry, i'm not using my g3 anymore and i never dealt with a hardbrick. there's several posts about unbricking the g3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/fix-unbrick-lg-g3-stuck-qualcomm-hs-usb-t2933853
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/how-to-hardbrick-guide-using-test-t3276928
good luck.