VS9854BA root without downgrading? - Verizon LG G3

Hi- I'm trying to help a friend recover some accidentally-deleted photos from internal memory, and unfortunately it seems that I need root access to image that. She's running VS9854BA, and none of the rooting methods I've found so far seem to support it. I tried Kingroot as a last resort as well, but it wasn't able to successfully root, either.
Are there any other options besides downgrading the OS to a more exploitable version? I would just proceed with that, but I'm worried about the downgrade putting too much churn on the disk and overwriting the areas we're trying to recover from.
Can anyone suggest any other options?
thanks in advance!

Kodansha said:
Are there any other options besides downgrading the OS to a more exploitable version?
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No. Downgrading is the only option, but only if you don't have revision 2 hardware along with a "K" variant, which if memory serves, is indicated underneath the battery beside the tiny VS985 such as VS985WK.
If there's a K anywhere after the VS985, then you can't downgrade at all (would likely brick it), and therefore no root.

roirraW "edor" ehT said:
No. Downgrading is the only option
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Bummer. I had previously checked for a K after reading as much as I could from you and the other very helpful forum members, so I knew we were ok there, but now I feel a bit better about not being able to find any documentation on rooting that particular version.
Anyway, despite the bad news, thanks again for the help with this!

Kodansha said:
Anyway, despite the bad news, thanks again for the help with this!
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You're welcome!

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[Q] Preferred Root Method?

Been reading various threads and wondering if there is a preferred method for rooting S4. If so, is it based on ability the unroot it later? I am a noob to phone rooting...having only (but successfully) rooted my Nook Tablet a long time ago. I want to make sure I choose the "best practice" method to minimize my risk of borking it. I am on verizon and have
SCH-1545
Build: JDQ39.1545VRUAME7
As for the specifics, is it assumed once I format the SD card to exfat that it runs from and remains in the phone itself or can it be repurposed?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380325
This is for root. With ME7 you can not use a custom recovery just as a FYI. But safestrap recovery works with ME7. You can find that also in the android Dev section.
wedmiston said:
Been reading various threads and wondering if there is a preferred method for rooting S4. If so, is it based on ability the unroot it later? I am a noob to phone rooting...having only (but successfully) rooted my Nook Tablet a long time ago. I want to make sure I choose the "best practice" method to minimize my risk of borking it. I am on verizon and have
SCH-1545
Build: JDQ39.1545VRUAME7
As for the specifics, is it assumed once I format the SD card to exfat that it runs from and remains in the phone itself or can it be repurposed?
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Each firmware version has its own method, and theres only 1 for each. Since your on me7 you have to use the .pwn method and once your rooted you can reformat your card/delete the files that were used.
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk. now Free
I have also noticed a number of people wanting to go back to stock. Is this because root is unstable or has issues? Is there a pretty foolproof method for going back (my phone is only 3 months into my renewed VZ contract so unlike my Nook, I may need support at some point)
wedmiston said:
I have also noticed a number of people wanting to go back to stock. Is this because root is unstable or has issues? Is there a pretty foolproof method for going back (my phone is only 3 months into my renewed VZ contract so unlike my Nook, I may need support at some point)
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Its absolutely stable. Most realize its not for them or they return their phones. Odin in my.opinion is the easiest way to remove root.
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk. now Free
So does this NOT apply to my phone since it cites a different model?
\http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2465713
Travisdroidx2 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380325
This is for root. With ME7 you can not use a custom recovery just as a FYI. But safestrap recovery works with ME7. You can find that also in the android Dev section.
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wedmiston said:
So does this NOT apply to my phone since it cites a different model?
\http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2465713
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That root method is for Verizon S4 on ME7 firmware. If that is not you then I would not try it myself.
Could qualify as the dumb question of the day, but I have Build: JDQ39.1545VRUAME7...is this considered ME7 or are there different flavors?
Travisdroidx2 said:
That root method is for Verizon S4 on ME7 firmware. If that is not you then I would not try it myself.
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wedmiston said:
Could qualify as the dumb question of the day, but I have Build: JDQ39.1545VRUAME7...is this considered ME7 or are there different flavors?
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Only one ME7 for Verizon you are good.
Given that this was profiled as a "cover story" on the XDA home page is this the latest and greatest and is it different than
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380325
Just want to clarify before i proceed
Travisdroidx2 said:
Only one ME7 for Verizon you are good.
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wedmiston said:
Given that this was profiled as a "cover story" on the XDA home page is this the latest and greatest and is it different than
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380325
Just want to clarify before i proceed
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That is the same link I sent you in post 2. That is the root method for you on ME7.
OK, then maybe my question is, how is that different from this?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/official-android-4-3-i9505xxuemj5-firmware-for-the-galaxy-s-4/
Travisdroidx2 said:
That is the same link I sent you in post 2. That is the root method for you on ME7.
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wedmiston said:
OK, then maybe my question is, how is that different from this?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/official-android-4-3-i9505xxuemj5-firmware-for-the-galaxy-s-4/
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Thats for a different model of s4 and is android 4.3 while me7 is 4.2.2
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wedmiston said:
OK, then maybe my question is, how is that different from this?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/official-android-4-3-i9505xxuemj5-firmware-for-the-galaxy-s-4/
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Because that is not for Verizon. Or ME7. Your build version shows ME7. The root method is in the Verizon thread for ME7. It is pretty clear.
Affirmative to both of you and very much appreciated!
as long as I have two guys smarter than me, one more...how is this different
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252248
wedmiston said:
as long as I have two guys smarter than me, one more...how is this different
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252248
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Thats motochopper I believe and its for mdk verizon versions.
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and I know I have to block OTA updates...want to get this in place immediately so what is the best way to do this?
wedmiston said:
and I know I have to block OTA updates...want to get this in place immediately so what is the best way to do this?
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Put the phone in airplane mode. Freeze or delete SDM.apk
Confirm successful root. Also froze SDM.01 file via TB Pro - am I good to go? Any other files need attention?
Travisdroidx2 said:
Put the phone in airplane mode. Freeze or delete SDM.apk
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[Q] Can't update/ deleted bloatware

I'm very new to all this and realize I already made a few mistakes. I have a ME7 gs4. I have it rooted (the bootloader is still locked) and deleted all the bloatware. I now realize that by doing this I pretty much ruined my chances of upgrading my phones software. I know the newest upgrade is still android 4.2 but I am concerned for when 4.3 or 4.4 comes out. Is there any way to restore the Verizon and Samsung bloatware with a locked bootloader so I can upgrade in the future? Any help and advise would greatly be appreciated.
Rooting and deleting bloatware is far from a mistake... you pretty much have to do it if you want this thing to run decently.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301259
Crawshayi said:
Rooting and deleting bloatware is far from a mistake... you pretty much have to do it if you want this thing to run decently.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301259
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I understand that, and I'm glad I did. I'm just concerned for future updates of android.
Croyal said:
I understand that, and I'm glad I did. I'm just concerned for future updates of android.
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Perhaps I should have elaborated what that link was... it's a guide to get back to stock firmware, meaning that just follow that guide and you'll be able to update normally if you wish
Thank you so much. I appreciate it :good:
Crawshayi said:
Perhaps I should have elaborated what that link was... it's a guide to get back to stock firmware, meaning that just follow that guide and you'll be able to update normally if you wish
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Question. So I am able to do this even though I have ME7 on my phone with a locked bootloader? I was under the impression that I can't flash anything with a locked bootloadr.
Croyal said:
Question. So I am able to do this even though I have ME7 on my phone with a locked bootloader? I was under the impression that I can't flash anything with a locked bootloadr.
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Yes you can do that with a locked bootloader. The procedure doesn't touch the bootloader (although Odin can flash bootloaders).

VRUEMJ7 root & recovery

Does anybody know if anyone is building a root and recovery process for the VRUEMJ7 build. I got this S4 unrooted with the new build done....UGG
downhillvinnie said:
Does anybody know if anyone is building a root and recovery process for the VRUEMJ7 build. I got this S4 unrooted with the new build done....UGG
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There are people working on root and @Hashcode is looking into getting Safestrap to work with it. But as to a recovery like twrp or CWM no dice on any build after mdk to install that.
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I think you are hosed if you are already on MJ7
Pardon if this is a noobish response, but can't we just use ODIN to force downgrade back to a build we can root and/or use custom recoveries?
OrionSX said:
Pardon if this is a noobish response, but can't we just use ODIN to force downgrade back to a build we can root and/or use custom recoveries?
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The bootloader blocks being downgraded. Only way to downgrade would be to jtag from what I heard which us extremely dangerous to the average user
DemonSoul1996 said:
The bootloader blocks being downgraded. Only way to downgrade would be to jtag from what I heard which us extremely dangerous to the average user
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There are no confirmed cases of anyone managing to downgrade even using JTAG. It's best to assume that you'll probably never be able to downgrade.
k1mu said:
There are no confirmed cases of anyone managing to downgrade even using JTAG. It's best to assume that you'll probably never be able to downgrade.
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Sure there is read the original thread about it from hellsdroid he commented he downgraded an me7 phone to mdk several times.
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hexitnow said:
Sure there is read the original thread about it from hellsdroid he commented he downgraded an me7 phone to mdk several times.
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
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Hmm. The basis of my statement:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500826
Has anyone ever heard more from h311sdr0id about his post (see here) to get more info about this "state" that allows you to flash MDK over ME7 in Odin
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No response. I know that h311sdr0id is "indisposed", of course. However, nobody has come forward to say that they've witnessed this. Thus my claim that it's unconfirmed.
It'd be great if JTAG was able to do this, but I'm rather skeptical given the fuses that get blown with each build to block going backwards. However, there is some hope as these are qfuses.

[Q] device patched; problem with rooting

When i tried to root my verizon lg g3 using the stump app, it said device patched, sorry. How can this be changed in order to root my phone? Please help!
KaylenOnusic said:
When i tried to root my verizon lg g3 using the stump app, it said device patched, sorry. How can this be changed in order to root my phone? Please help!
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Need more info...
KaylenOnusic said:
When i tried to root my verizon lg g3 using the stump app, it said device patched, sorry. How can this be changed in order to root my phone? Please help!
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Flash back to 10b is the only fix. No other versions can be rooted.
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im technology stupid
Thx for the advice, unfortunately, i have no idea what that 10 b is. I havent updated any operating system so, in my limited knowledge of this subject, i cant figure out how i woupd flash back to something i am not sure i ever had. I just bought this phone a couple months ago. Thank you for your help!
KaylenOnusic said:
Thx for the advice, unfortunately, i have no idea what that 10 b is. I havent updated any operating system so, in my limited knowledge of this subject, i cant figure out how i woupd flash back to something i am not sure i ever had. I just bought this phone a couple months ago. Thank you for your help!
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My suggestion would be to read more as this can ruin your phone if you don't know what you are doing. Not trying to be rude....but you need to study the subject. Check out the tutorials all over the LG G3 section
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See this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57352415
Two methods, one is flashing a .tot file, the other is flashing a .kdz.
I include a link to the post for the .tot approach, the .kdz one is found in a thread in the Verizon G3 General forum area, a post by annoyingduck.
KaylenOnusic said:
Thx for the advice, unfortunately, i have no idea what that 10 b is. I havent updated any operating system so, in my limited knowledge of this subject, i cant figure out how i woupd flash back to something i am not sure i ever had. I just bought this phone a couple months ago. Thank you for your help!
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Doesn't matter if you ever had it, you can still put it on. I'm sure you are on 11c, otherwise stump wouldn't say its patched.
The previous post has the links you need to get it reverted to an older version.
Sent from my G3, Unlocked by Team Codefire
Arrogant ****s like YOU are the biggest "tech" problem, this person clearly stated they they were not tech savvy yet you still talk down to them.
That's my favorite part of the "online community"...everyone's a tough guy.
As a parting gift, I'll give you this: Do a little homework before you reply to this in ANY way that could be deemed disrespectful.

New to LG g3

Hi all, I'm on 47a. Can someone direct me to the current root method?
Hi!
Please post question threads in the Q&A section. I'll ask a moderator to move this thread.
If the VS985 model # behind the battery doesn't have a "K" after it like VS985WK...
How to downgrade, root and put TWRP on:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=67945841
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=68040923
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68098895&postcount=1470
If it does have a "K" then you can't root or downgrade.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
If it does have a "K" then you can't root or downgrade.
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Pretty much. One little caveat that probably will matter very little: If for some reason your firmware version is NOT marshmallow and you haven't OTA'd it to marshmallow, you can still downgrade and subsequently root "K" models using your DD method.
I know, It's just tricky as heck comparatively to remember all that. Quite a mouthful.
R-T-B said:
I know, It's just tricky as heck comparatively to remember all that. Quite a mouthful.
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Thanks again! I appreciate the reminder.

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