Our 2GB RAM are enough? Z5C future proof ? - Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hey,
as you see the Z5C barely came out year ago
and semi heavy game, left the phone with about 10% of RAM memory
(no other apps open) the only app that open ,is small app that checks free RAM in real time
also (swap)ZRAM was about 10% , when i left the app, and return the main screen again the game was closed and you could the see the icons reloading and the ram jumped again, that why i use my old phone and real time small app ... had to reload the game again....
anyway year after that the device didn't move at all 0RAM (my old sony) and also when sony uses Zram the device relatively slow , and had to replace the device
i know swap(zram size can be changed when rooted.. but again...much slower than RAM (i've tried it on my previous sony it help till i got new device)
in short! how many time you think we have till we need to replace our Z5C?
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What would you replace it with? There is no competition and even Sony gave up on compact flagships.

yup X is 5" inch, although is not by match , my previous sony was 3.7inch",
another reason why probably Z5C my last phone from sony along with overheating ,software\hardware random bugs\problems ,
xperia X is 3GB and full HD screen compared to Z5C
beside that z5c is better According to basemark X, and anutu ) only X performance is really better overall
if z5c at least had 3GB RAM it was better\future proof , i guess ill need to replace again after 2- 5 years

Just use AOSP-based ROMs with Kernels and mod the **** out of them
(e.g. add vnswap, zswap, ..., if necessary even UKSM or KSM) and other stuff,
that should be enough for at least the next few years ...

zacharias.maladroit said:
Just use AOSP-based ROMs with Kernels and mod the **** out of them
(e.g. add vnswap, zswap, ..., if necessary even UKSM or KSM) and other stuff,
that should be enough for at least the next few years ...
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As far as I see in these forums, we will never have stable, fully working AOSP roms. There is simply not enough interest in z5 line, also after about a year since the release. You and few other developers are the ones bringing features but there's still a lot of work to do and the phone is already 1year old. This is only my impression and I hope it is a wrong one as i really like AOSP customizations.
But for now I think we can't compare stock with AOSP in terms of usability.
Regarding the topic, i also thought about using Zram to keep more apps opened in background. I also felt this need particularly when playing games.

Debloat the rom and use Greenify donated, that will always help with the memory.

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[Q] Benchmark question

Now I know benchmarks are not that accurate but I figured I would ask about this anyway and see what everyone else thinks...
First, whenever I run linpack I only score anywhere between 12 and 16 overclocked @ 1.8...even my og Evo got about 40 so just wanted some input on that...
And second, when I run quadrant the first 12 tests go real slow but them I seem to still score from 2500-3000 but when I looked at the system info it said my phone was only a single core...kinda thought it was strange...here's the screen shot so you can see what I'm talking about
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Just a couple questions I had but not really urgent...still, any input is much appreciated
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I am guessing that you have the CPU overclocked too much and it is choking on the benchmarks. Try lowering your clock to 1500 and see if you get the same results.
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htc phones have always fallen short on benchmarks dont worry it doesnt rlly say anything about real life performance. yeh it says one core you have 2 is it using both for the test? the world may never know
Yea looks like it isn't picking up second core for testing, hut the second core shouldn't be on all the time anyways, look for a dual core supported benchmark,
I believe cf bench is good for dual core,
And yea linpack borks when oc to far,
~Shot from my shooter in 3D~
~injected with cleanrom~
not to hijack the thread, but i didn't want to start a new post, and can't post in the developers section yet.
I just flashed myns warmtwopointthree and when running nenamark 2 i get about 20fps, I got about 26 on stock before root. I haven't messed with the cpu yet as i just flashed it, but i was wondering if anyone knows whats up with it.
I just don't want to sift through 2,500+ replies to find out. i read in the latest release notes that the gpu was overclocked but i'm getting worse performance. I wanted higher performance so i chose that rom. Anyone know why?
Unfortunately most apps are not multithreaded which means they're only going to use one core anyway. So if you want to see how your average app will perform, Quadrant is actually pretty good because it is written like most apps: for a single core.
If you want a benchmark more indicative of what the hardware is actually capable of, a multi-core test like CF Bench or SmartBench 2011 is in order. Unfortunately, I've found that the governors on most ROM's are not up to the task and they actually slow things down quite a bit so if you want max performance (numbers in the tests), you need to use SetCPU or a similar tool and choose the "performance" governor otherwise the phone will be jumping around at various clock speeds for all the tests. I've tried the "lag free", "smartass" and all the governors and none of them (on any ROM I've tested) truly know how to keep the CPU at your max frequency even when doing the demanding tasks that the benchmarks throw at it.
Mike

about screen on time and battery

my galaxy s2 can only have 2 hours of screen on time, can someone give me any information about screen time especially for 3D games?
maybe because the battery? my s2 is 2nd hand and the battery is made on 2011-8-8, its already 2 years,if you had buy a new battery please give information about screen on time with the new battery,especially on 3D games
my s2 is on stock JB 4.1.2 with speedmod kernel k5-8 and use pure perfomance script
battery test on gsmarena with the ics firmware can run 5 hours of internet browsing and 7 hours of video playback screen on time,it is true?
can anyone give advice for battery time latest ics 4.0.4 vs jb 4.1.2 stock?
amdultra said:
my galaxy s2 can only have 2 hours of screen on time, can someone give me any information about screen time especially for 3D games?
maybe because the battery? my s2 is 2nd hand and the battery is made on 2011-8-8, its already 2 years,if you had buy a new battery please give information about screen on time with the new battery,especially on 3D games
my s2 is on stock JB 4.1.2 with speedmod kernel k5-8 and use pure perfomance script
battery test on gsmarena with the ics firmware can run 5 hours of internet browsing and 7 hours of video playback screen on time,it is true?
can anyone give advice for battery time latest ics 4.0.4 vs jb 4.1.2 stock?
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First of all,do not compare ICS with JB.Normally jellybean will have less battery,as it is a more recent Android,and it needs more performance.If battery is 2 years old,I suggest you to change it.Here is a nice and good battery,that I'm using too Battery.About software,I recommend you NeatROM with Apolo Kernel 4.12 Extreme v0.
i'm getting almost 5 hour but as you can see I didn't make proper test
using chameleon rom apolo 4.12 light hyper governor
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Antutu scores

Before I bought my L21 device, I had looked around on the internet and I had found some videos where this device's Antutu score was around 44560. I've check my device score and it is 36359. Where is the truth? How much is your devices' Antutu scores?
Mine was also in the same range as yours. 35901. The 3D score and RAM really were low compared to other budget phones I'm evaluating like the Blu Life One X.
5X was 2594 for 3D. Blu was 5419. WTF?
yeah i think this is a realy bad score. my score is as low as your.
But i own a MotoXPlay with Snapdragon 615 and the 3d Score there is over 8000 Points
mxr576 said:
Before I bought my L21 device, I had looked around on the internet and I had found some videos where this device's Antutu score was around 44560. I've check my device score and it is 36359. Where is the truth? How much is your devices' Antutu scores?
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L24 with similar scores 36389, 3D only 2554, RAM at 3807. I expected better. Had open a few apps when running the test, maybe that had an impact.
Just took the test, my results:
3461, 3D
15795, UX
13828, CPU
3535, RAM
35619, Total
Was that with or without smart power saving? I heard that it seems to add more lagg than time..
PS thinking of buying to replace my dying gt-i9300 (galaxy s3)
Just tested and got 36018. Seems like it should be like 5-10k higher. Maybe custom ROMs will help some.
Also, since we have the kernel source and everything, won't we be able to overclock it some?
34230 for me.
3D score of 2494.
Turned on Airplane mode:
35144
3D: 2646
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Its L22
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Kounjula Rahul said:
Its L22
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37236, looks like we have a winner
Did you do anything special to get this score?
Bandit Development said:
37236, looks like we have a winner
Did you do anything special to get this score?
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Nothing..just powersaving set to Normal..!!
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I rooted the phone and used the debloat script to get rid of unnecessary apps. I couldn't find the power-savings setting, can someone point me to where that is? Don't know if rooting it and running that script got rid of it.
Thanks
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I rooted the phone and used the debloat script to get rid of unnecessary apps. I couldn't find the power-savings setting, can someone point me to where that is? Don't know if rooting it and running that script got rid of it.
Thanks
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Yes, the debloat script removes the phone manager app...which I believe does the battery saving "magic."
What? My "hundred-year-old" Galaxy S4 mini gets around 40000 points (CM13, f4ktion kernel, no overclocking). Unbelievable!
There must be something seriously wrong with those first release ROMs of 5x.
this is exactly why we need a stock rom that's not bloated.

Multitasking/RAM

You're busy and don't have time to wait, which is why you need to stop reading this thread and get back to organizing your Pogs. Rate this thread to express how the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 performs when multitasking. A higher rating indicates that the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 keeps many apps in memory so that they don't need to reload, and that when moving between apps, transitions are smooth and performance is excellent.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Very very poor ram management
TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE IDEA OF BUYING THIS 3GB and 4GB MOBILE VARIANTS
I bought 3gb variant, and the multitasking - ram management simply sucks. Yes because the first 2 to 3 apps in the recent apps list were also refreshing while swapping between. This is worse. Its been 2 weeks and I am thinking to sell this. Bought 3gb for the time being until oneplus 6 release. But because this is much worse that I could not even bear this weak ram management till oneplus 6 release
harigavara said:
TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE IDEA OF BUYING THIS 3GB and 4GB MOBILE VARIANTS
I bought 3gb variant, and the multitasking - ram management simply sucks. Yes because the first 2 to 3 apps in the recent apps list were also refreshing while swapping between. This is worse. Its been 2 weeks and I am thinking to sell this. Bought 3gb for the time being until oneplus 6 release. But because this is much worse that I could not even bear this weak ram management till oneplus 6 release
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Before selling the device, try the following setting, 1st tap on the build several times to reveal the developer option, then head to the developer option scroll all the way down and turn off memory optimization and miui optimization. That way u should have better multitasking capability
I paid a little more for a 4GB version and really ability to keep many apps in background is good.
How is indicated above MIUI optimization is a task killer to allows user to use faster some less critical apps (with minor RAM usage) and kills apps in the order from which consumption is higher.
But finally RAM optimization depends mostly in how the firmware implements this feature, some kernel correctly tweaked can help on this.
So it´s not a hardware related issue with 3GB it can runs better with some improvements in the software.
4GB/64Storage 5 star
6/64gb 5star 30 apps running without refreshing
Well, I think its the fault of miui but not the device, i am using liquid remix, and I can maintain 10+ apps in 3gb variant.
Only 1.5 GB free of 4. Im using Rom xiaomi eu, but original global rom is the same with ram
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Only 1.5 GB free of 4. Im using Rom xiaomi eu, but original global rom is the same with ram View attachment 4677525
Enviado desde mi Redmi Note 5 mediante Tapatalk
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What about another stats like battery life, performance. Is there a noticeable difference in favor of xiaomi.eu?
Alex230799x said:
What about another stats like battery life, performance. Is there a noticeable difference in favor of xiaomi.eu?
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For me is the same, no more battery life, no more perfomance, no more ram.
using [9.0]AospExtended v6.5 here
Redmi 5 plus 64gb/4gb
it says that system consumes: 786 mb
29 apps
1759mb free

Question Geekbench 6 Results

With and without Ram Plus enabled The higher score is with Ram Plus disabled.
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How many runs did you make?
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With and without Ram Plus enabled The higher score is with Ram Plus disabled.
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I never get this results
aureum said:
How many runs did you make?
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3 including the one I ran a few minutes ago.
I need to test it again. I did not get such diff between ram off and on.
hoss_n2 said:
I never get this results
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To be honest I was a little surprised to get these results.
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To be honest I was a little surprised to get these results.
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The best I could get may be my device is not that good or very bloated

			
				
Best score so far: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/292528
Guess what...we should all be proud of the device that we have in our hands. The single-core results are eerily close to my M1Pro MacBook Pro! Multicore is something else..but yeah we should be proud!
Guess what...we should all be proud of the device that we have in our hands. The single-core results are eerily close to my M1Pro MacBook Pro! Multicore is something else..but yeah we should be proud!
Well, afterall, i dont think device with 12GB or more RAM need RAM plus feature to begin with. This feature is a gimmick for lower range device, so that brand can market it to look like it have bigger memory.
otonieru said:
Well, afterall, i dont think device with 12GB or more RAM need RAM plus feature to begin with. This feature is a gimmick for lower range device, so that brand can market it to look like it have bigger memory.
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Yup. I turned it off on my phone and the phone is averaging 8GB of RAM used.

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