Is it possible to port this amazing game tuner app to our device?
How useful it is? according to my research...
Game Tuner is a truly useful piece of software? From Samsung? Color me surprised, too, but the company's new Game Tuner app is nothing short of incredibly handy for mobile gamers. As you may well know, playing visually-intensive games on your smartphone can demolish the battery fairly quickly. While most such games render at 1080p even on 2K displays like Samsung's, such resolutions can be big draws on both your remaining juice and your device's processor, causing throttling (and thus slowdowns) and excessive power drain. Samsung's new app lets you have a say in just how graphically hungry those games will be, allowing you to adjust maximum frame rate and resolution scaling.
For example, Hearthstone for Android on a Galaxy S6 edge+ renders at, near as I can tell, 1080p natively. With Samsung's Game Tuner app, you can turn that up to a full 1440p (aka 2K and probably not a great idea!), or all the way down to around 480p. The difference is very real. The frame rate can be adjusted from 15 to 60FPS.
ROGFanatics said:
Is it possible to port this amazing game tuner app to our device?
How useful it is? according to my research...
Game Tuner is a truly useful piece of software? From Samsung? Color me surprised, too, but the company's new Game Tuner app is nothing short of incredibly handy for mobile gamers. As you may well know, playing visually-intensive games on your smartphone can demolish the battery fairly quickly. While most such games render at 1080p even on 2K displays like Samsung's, such resolutions can be big draws on both your remaining juice and your device's processor, causing throttling (and thus slowdowns) and excessive power drain. Samsung's new app lets you have a say in just how graphically hungry those games will be, allowing you to adjust maximum frame rate and resolution scaling.
For example, Hearthstone for Android on a Galaxy S6 edge+ renders at, near as I can tell, 1080p natively. With Samsung's Game Tuner app, you can turn that up to a full 1440p (aka 2K and probably not a great idea!), or all the way down to around 480p. The difference is very real. The frame rate can be adjusted from 15 to 60FPS.
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I doubt it, samsung is pretty protective of their apps, even the simple 'note' app will crash on other devices
otyg said:
I doubt it, samsung is pretty protective of their apps, even the simple 'note' app will crash on other devices
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But it is possible I think -_-
The apk is available on apk Mirror maybe mod build prop like an s6e or s7 could permit to run it !
Nathing samsung use 3rd party app and give it it own name like it cleaner use clean master data saving use opera data saver etc don't bother it just find on play store
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Hi all,
I know this article has been floating around here for some time, but this I found rather interesting:
Some have raised points along the lines of Samsung Galaxy S2 phones already having a smoother UI and indicating that they are doing something different vs. the Galaxy Nexus. When comparing individual devices though you really need to look at all of the factors. For example, the S2's screen is 480x800 vs. the Galaxy Nexus at 720x1280. If the Nexus S could already do 60fps for simple UIs on its 480x800, the CPU in the S2's is even better off.
The real important difference between these two screens is just that the Galaxy Nexus has 2.4x as many pixels that need to be drawn as the S2. This means that to achieve the same efficiency at drawing the screen, you need a CPU that can run a single core at 2.4x the speed (and rendering a UI for a single app is essentially not parallelizable, so multiple cores isn't going to save you).
This is where hardware accelerated rendering really becomes important: as the number of pixels goes up, GPUs can generally scale much better to handle them, since they are more specialized at their task. In fact this was the primary incentive for implementing hardware accelerated drawing in Android -- at 720x1280 we are well beyond the point where current ARM CPUs can provide 60fps. (And this is a reason to be careful about making comparisons between the Galaxy Nexus and other devices like the S2 -- if you are running third party apps, there is a good chance today that the app is not enabling hardware acceleration, so your comparison is doing CPU rendering on the Galaxy Nexus which means you almost certainly aren't going to get 60fps out of it, because it needs to hit 2.4x as many pixels as the S2 does.)
To be complete, there is another big advantage that the GPU gives you -- many more drawing effects become feasible. For example, if you are drawing a bitmap in software, you basically can't do anything to it except apply an offset. Just trying to scale it is going to make rendering significantly slower. On a GPU, applying transformations well beyond simple scales is basically free. This is why in the new default Holo themes in Android we have background images -- with hardware accelerated drawing, we can afford to draw (and scale) them. In fact, if the hardware path is not enabled by the app, these background images will be turned off.
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This is kinda the same as with the Prime and the T700/other high-resolution tablets, isn't it? I'm not sure, but it sounds pretty obviously since the Tegra3 GPU isn't very good (yes, it is fine but I'm not sure for those high-res screens?). However I could be completely wrong..
I agree. It's the same with a gaming computer. Just because ur monitor has 1080p doesn't mean u can play all games in that rez. U will need a much more powerful gpu. I am certain though the tegra3 can support 1080p but it won't be smooth as 720p like our device. Unless u lower the rez but how would u on an android. Furthermore how ugly games would look who aren't optimize for 1080p.
Nvidia always!
The question isn't whether there's going to be a performance hit, it's what the performance hit looks like. If it's invisible in everything but gaming, I'd bet a lot of people will go for the HD display and gamers will stick to the lower res. If it's obvious in UI performance and transitions, it makes the benefit of the HD screen a little more questionable. The new chip in the iPad3 and Samsung's new Exynos chip won't make you choose (on paper). Benchmarks are useless except for bragging rights.
I have been saying this since people were trying to compare the new acer and samsung back in Dec. The higher the resolution, the more power and resources it takes. Also you have to look at the app market right now. What app's are out that will use that 1080p display...NONE as of now. Once they (1080p tablets) are released, it will be a few months before most apps will adapt to the new higher displays.
I continue to question the need for having a 1080p 10 inch display- there has to be a limit as to high a ppi count the human eye can reasonably distinguish. Just bumping up the resolution while not working on improving the true render process (in case of games or animations) does not make any sense to me.
A retina display just for the heck of it is not a great idea, at least to me.
For what it's worth, ICS is supposed to be fully hardware accelerated, so the Tegra 3 could be enough to power the higher resolution for everything but games.
Anandtech (who I probably trust the most when it comes to hardware evaluations) seemed to suggest in an early preview that the higher resolution *may* perform ok:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5348/...-with-asus-1920-x-1200-tablet-running-ics-403
That said, there are still questions as to the benefit of such a high resolution on a 10" form factor designed to be held only 1-2' away from your face. They didn't bump up to 1920 x 1200 resolution monitors until 24" LCDs and up.
The real issue is that games on Android don't let you pick a resolution for them to run at. Almost all run at the full Res of the screen, which means slideshow on a 1080p Prime.
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I continue to question the need for having a 1080p 10 inch display- there has to be a limit as to high a ppi count the human eye can reasonably distinguish. Just bumping up the resolution while not working on improving the true render process (in case of games or animations) does not make any sense to me.
A retina display just for the heck of it is not a great idea, at least to me.
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I agree, there is just no point..... there is more important things to improve than pixel count....
Thanks, at least I am not alone on this idea. It seems like when the news came that the iPad 3 is going to have a retina desiplay all the manufacturers didn't care anymore and just were thinking "We also need that!". I am comparision the text from thread with my HTC Sensation which should have a better DPI:
Transformer Prime: 149
The new Prime: 218
HTC Sensation: 260
and from NORMAL viewing distance both look great. However, when i come closer the pixels on the Transformer Prime are a little visible where the Sensation stays sharp. However the phone has a better DPI then the new res. panel so I'm not sure how that is.
I'm sure it will look some better, but I am not sure if it is worth the wait (again) and also the possibilty of the new Prime itself can't keep up with its own resolution..
Oh, again not trying to defend the Prime here.. I have to return it anyway because of backlight bleeding and am not sure if I want a new one or my money back, however if I see this result I think the resolution is just pure marketing.. I mean who is going to sit with its prime 5 cm from their heads.. lol.
http://androidandme.com/2012/01/news/hands-on-with-the-acer-iconia-tab-a510-and-zte-7-tablets/
Watch the video on Acer Iconia a510 (unannounced tablet). 1080p that comes with this tablet... does look a bit sluggish.
Just to add my galaxy nexus is 316 dpi..... unless your 2in from the screen...there really isn't much difference.
Also, I love how laptop and desktop DPI is half what most phone/tabs are and people are having a fit......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_displays_by_pixel_density#ASUS
Seems to run pretty good since it is still a pre-production model, however not as smooth as the Prime with ICS yes..
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Just to add my galaxy nexus is 316 dpi..... unless your 2in from the screen...there really isn't much difference.
Also, I love how laptop and desktop DPI is half what most phone/tabs are and people are having a fit......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_displays_by_pixel_density#ASUS
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Yeah, exactly what I mean.. you can see it if your very close to the screen, but why would you do that, lol.
Oh, btw.. for the iPad 1&2 it still is 132, which is much lower then our Transformers (149,5), never heard real complaints about that.
>What app's are out that will use that 1080p display...NONE as of now
eBooks & PDFs. Sharper texts. More texts. One can conceivably view 2 pages side-by-side (16:10 / 2 = 8:10, or close to the 8.5:11 printed page).
With display mirroring, you get 1:1 pixel ratio when plugged into a HDTV via HDMI. This makes above use-case (high-density text consumption) much more feasible. Ditto for remote access.
Gaming perf will take a hit. Then again, gaming isn't exactly an Android forte right now, or for mobiles in general. The bulk of games are casual stuff, geared for handset resolution.
One can argue that hardcore Android gaming will prosper over time, and FPS perf will matter more. There are problems with this line of thought. First, is simply the assumption that Android will prosper on tablets, which given current sales is hardly a forgone conclusion. Second, are the fast advances in hardware and their correspondingly short lifespan. GPU-wise, the Teg3 isn't the fastest even now. By the time we get to see enough hardcore games, we'd be on Teg 5 or 6, or their equivalent. Teg3 will be old news.
But sure, if shooters and frame count are your thing, then 720p sounds like a plan, at least for the Teg3.
>I continue to question the need for having a 1080p 10 inch display
Some don't see the need for GPS in tabs either. Some don't use the cams. Different people have different uses. You shouldn't generalize your use to be everyone else's.
Rest assured that when it comes to marketing, toys with lo-res display will be viewed as inferior. Bigger is better. It's the same thing with quadcore vs dualcore vs single-core. Do you actually need a quadcore?
>there has to be a limit as to high a ppi count the human eye can reasonably distinguish
This argument has been bouncing around ever since Apple's Retina Display. Per this PPI calculator, 1920x1200 is 224ppi on a 10.1". Reportedly, people can discern 300ppi at 12" distance, given 20/20 vision. The real test is simpler and much less theoretical: walk into a store and compare the TF201 and TF700 side-by-side, and see if you can discern the difference.
>Anandtech (who I probably trust the most when it comes to hardware evaluations) seemed to suggest in an early preview that the higher resolution *may* perform ok:
Anandtech is good for chip-level analysis. For (mobile) system hardware and use-case analysis, he's just as green as many other tech blogs. Note the gaffs on the Prime testing wrt GPS and BT/wifi coexistence. I do see signs of improvement, however. They came out with a new Mobile Benchmark suite, whatever that means.
>The real issue is that games on Android don't let you pick a resolution for them to run at.
The real issue is that Android is still a nascent OS for tablets. HC was a beta which never took off. ICS was just released. The bulk of Android apps & games are still for handsets.
I have been concerned about this as well. Tegra 3's GPU is fine enough for a 1200x800 tablet, but it's going to be stretched at 1080p (this is nearly the resolution that my desktop runs at!).
I'd love a higher-resolution display, but it's a luxury (well, a tablet itself kinda is already, but even more so). It's not as if 1280x800 is cramped and blocky. I'm happy to wait a bit longer for 1080p tablets to mature and come down in price.
(I'd rather have 2GB RAM, actually.)
Well, perhaps this new release will coincide with a bump in the specs of Tegra 3. By the time the new tablet comes out, I would assume that's been almost half a year.... That's usually about the time span that nvidia would come out with a refresh of a chip design (well, they do this with their desktop GPUs, so not a great comparison, but it's possible?). So in the end perhaps the question of performance will be moot because there will be a faster Tegra 3 and more RAM in the new higher resolution tablets.
Just a thought.
Don't underestimate.
Let's wait a review or test.
Probably the Tegra 3 is more than capable of handling this kind of resolution in terms of playing HD movie, high profile compression, etc.
I saw several tests on current prime, and it has no problem with HD videos.
My only concern is battery life ... that's all.
I expect the 1920x1200 will result worse battery life, unless ASUS pump up the battery capacity or any other improvement.
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Hi all,
I know this article has been floating around here for some time, but this I found rather interesting:
This is kinda the same as with the Prime and the T700/other high-resolution tablets, isn't it? I'm not sure, but it sounds pretty obviously since the Tegra3 GPU isn't very good (yes, it is fine but I'm not sure for those high-res screens?). However I could be completely wrong..
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Don't underestimate.
Let's wait a review or test.
Probably the Tegra 3 is more than capable of handling this kind of resolution in terms of playing HD movie, high profile compression, etc.
I saw several tests on current prime, and it has no problem with HD videos.
My only concern is battery life ... that's all.
I expect the 1920x1200 will result worse battery life, unless ASUS pump up the battery capacity or any other improvement.
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Asus has already stated that battery life will be pretty much the same as the current Prime...So that should equal shorter battery life.I'll stick with my Prime for now.No Need in buying another tablet right now IMO.I'm waiting to see what Samsung brings to the table.
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Well, perhaps this new release will coincide with a bump in the specs of Tegra 3. By the time the new tablet comes out, I would assume that's been almost half a year.... That's usually about the time span that nvidia would come out with a refresh of a chip design (well, they do this with their desktop GPUs, so not a great comparison, but it's possible?). So in the end perhaps the question of performance will be moot because there will be a faster Tegra 3 and more RAM in the new higher resolution tablets.
Just a thought.
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I don't think they can bump the specs within the generation of a chip. The only thing that can happen till then is that Asus finds an economical way to add 2GB memory to the device, Nvidia improves the production capabilities of Tegra 3 and we get a better yield of the chips. The spec increase can only happen from one generation to the next.
I think the performance will be fine. Even the battery life.
Most of the battery usage screen-wise is from the backlight, which will be the same.
Also, not much more power may be used necessarily either, especially if it doesn't end up taxing the Tegra 3 as much as we think it will. As far as we know, our 1200x800 displays may not even be taxing the Tegra 3 that much. If anything, the article shows that the Tegra 3 may be more qualified to handle that high a resolution with little to no performance degradation. There are demos on youtube of a tegra 3 device playing 1440p movies just fine, all while driving a second screen at the same time.
Of course I too don't feel the need for something that high of a resolution on a 10 inch screen, but I'll never really know until I see one in person.
Anandtech talks about power efficiency of new generation chips and mentions how the nexus 10 gets throttled down in high stress graph8c situations. Heres the specific page, at the bottom. And the article really shows just how much the cortex consumes in power, much, much more than other chipsets.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6536/arm-vs-x86-the-real-showdown/13
One of the most misleading articles I've ever read on Anandtech, that. It's full of interesting info, but ultimately there are few conclusions you can really draw other than that the 5250 has a very high TDP!
A lot of graphs show total power consumption when running a given benchmark/task, and then use this data to make assumptions on architecture/chipset performance. Even ignoring the "total device power draw" graphs (the N10 screen will suck MUCH more power than the crappy 1366x768 panels in the other tablets tested) and sticking purely to the CPU/GPU power draw comparison graphs, it must be considered that these devices are running a COMPLETELY different software stack!
This is like drawing comparisons on tyre grip when tyre A has been tested on tarmac, fitted to a 2 ton Bentley, with ambient temps of 40C and tyre B on snow, fitted to a 500kg caterham and in -20C ambient: There is simply too much different to even try and perform any kind of comparison between them. All you can do is look at the test results in isolation.
Agreed total power is way affected by the N10's screen, but at least it gives people an answer as to why they are getting slow down in games like NFS:MW
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Agreed total power is way affected by the N10's screen, but at least it gives people an answer as to why they are getting slow down in games like NFS:MW
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Except for the people who aren't getting any slowdowns in NFS:MW on the N10, myself being one of them.
So, no, it doesn't provide a conclusive answer for that, either.
What it does is provide another data point
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Except for the people who aren't getting any slowdowns in NFS:MW on the N10, myself being one of them
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I'd have to see it to believe it at this point. Can you actually distinguish when FPS changes occur (no offense or anything like that; I know someone who claims a game ran "smoothly" to them, and I can see framerate jumping all over the place, and not even being that high to start with)?
Perhaps you have a decent camera (60 FPS recording preferred) where you can show proof of such? And also are you using a custom kernel or ROM?
I've noticed that the ambient temperature in the room influences thermal throttling. If I'm sitting in a room with a jacket on and it's 65F/18C then I don't have throttling issues like when I'm sitting near the fireplace and the ambient temperature is around 80F/27C. Maybe that's obvious but just bringing it up as a possible reason why some people may not see throttling during hard gaming. I definitely see throttling playing Critical Strike Portable (Multiplayer online), and I don't remember seeing that on the N7. I still use the N10 for gaming though because the screen is so nice, I just cringe every time I see some throttling.
I changed my thermal throttle limit to 90, had no problems so far
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Pretty good write up..
One thing I find really interesting were those insanely low GPU consumption numbers by the N10 during the sun spider, kraken, etc test. The article didn't mention it (surprised), but there's two pieces of tech in the Exynos5 that are somewhat related to that:
PSR mode may be showing it's face in browser benchmarks, which cuts a lot of power when the screen is on a static image.
And OpenCL support. Which doesn't look like it's being utilized here, as GPU power consumption would probably be higher, but should bring total power consumption down by using the GPU cores to help out in task processing, similar to CUDA. I'd love to see this implemented since our SoC supports it.
Is it possible to port this amazing game tuner app to our device?
How useful it is? according to my research...
Game Tuner is a truly useful piece of software? From Samsung? Color me surprised, too, but the company's new Game Tuner app is nothing short of incredibly handy for mobile gamers. As you may well know, playing visually-intensive games on your smartphone can demolish the battery fairly quickly. While most such games render at 1080p even on 2K displays like Samsung's, such resolutions can be big draws on both your remaining juice and your device's processor, causing throttling (and thus slowdowns) and excessive power drain. Samsung's new app lets you have a say in just how graphically hungry those games will be, allowing you to adjust maximum frame rate and resolution scaling.
For example, Hearthstone for Android on a Galaxy S6 edge+ renders at, near as I can tell, 1080p natively. With Samsung's Game Tuner app, you can turn that up to a full 1440p (aka 2K and probably not a great idea!), or all the way down to around 480p. The difference is very real. The frame rate can be adjusted from 15 to 60FPS.
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Is it possible to port this amazing game tuner app to our device?
How useful it is? according to my research...
Game Tuner is a truly useful piece of software? From Samsung? Color me surprised, too, but the company's new Game Tuner app is nothing short of incredibly handy for mobile gamers. As you may well know, playing visually-intensive games on your smartphone can demolish the battery fairly quickly. While most such games render at 1080p even on 2K displays like Samsung's, such resolutions can be big draws on both your remaining juice and your device's processor, causing throttling (and thus slowdowns) and excessive power drain. Samsung's new app lets you have a say in just how graphically hungry those games will be, allowing you to adjust maximum frame rate and resolution scaling.
For example, Hearthstone for Android on a Galaxy S6 edge+ renders at, near as I can tell, 1080p natively. With Samsung's Game Tuner app, you can turn that up to a full 1440p (aka 2K and probably not a great idea!), or all the way down to around 480p. The difference is very real. The frame rate can be adjusted from 15 to 60FPS.
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i dont think we need this.our display is already on hd.the lowest best possible so no need for it.redmi 3 battery life is superb so i relly think we dont need this app.
jokerpappu said:
i dont think we need this.our display is already on hd.the lowest best possible so no need for it.redmi 3 battery life is superb so i relly think we dont need this app.
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Actually our device is running on 1080p which is FHD ... by this app we can adjust the quality of the game and adjust the framerate for more smoother experience ...
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Actually our device is running on 1080p which is FHD ... by this app we can adjust the quality of the game and adjust the framerate for more smoother experience ...
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we have an hd screen and you are saying FHD ???how is that.games run on 720p not 1080p on our devices.so dont say things like that
FHD = 1080p
HD = 720p
The redmi 3/pro is a 720p screen resolution. I think the framerate adjustment might be helpful depending on games that arent necessary to have high end graphics but still dont run as well as they could
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FHD = 1080p
HD = 720p
The redmi 3/pro is a 720p screen resolution. I think the framerate adjustment might be helpful depending on games that arent necessary to have high end graphics but still dont run as well as they could
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IM sorry wrong thread i have redmi note 3 pro im so sorry!
jokerpappu said:
we have an hd screen and you are saying FHD ???how is that.games run on 720p not 1080p on our devices.so dont say things like that
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IM sorry wrong thread .
I Already started another thread trying to explain why imo a 4K Display is crucial for the future of VR and why the Galaxy Note 8 should keep its promise to include a 4K Display. (Link under Post Scriptum).
---- Then I realize that most people think that VR is just a gimmick and doesn't have its uses. Most users just picked up VR for 10 minutes, liked it and then forget about it. This would have been a completely different if that Display was 4K.
In this thread I will try to explain things that can be done with VR and thus show how these experiences would improve drastically with a 4K VR Display on your phone. This thread will aim to inform people who are not that familiar with technology and especially with VR, but still may be curious of what it can do.
1. Pocket Movie Theatre with true 3D Experience:
You remember when 3D tvs were "in"? And that period of time when movie companies started to release all their content in 3D for movie theatres. Well, there's a reason why 3D stood strong in Movie Theaters since then and not in the living room's Tv. The reason is simple. Movie theaters offer a "Focused" experience with a huge Screen, while the living room is more casual and most common 3D tv screen panels can't compete with the silver screen. VR can.
Most VR users only focus on 360 videos for VR or 3D-360 videos, but they mostly forget about an important alternative: Watching 3D Movies in a Virtual movie theater!
When I used the Gear VR with my Note 7, I was amazed how the experience of being in a Movie Theater was Vivid! BUT Don't get me wrong! Usually I hate watching 3D movies in movie theaters. It's dark, blurry, I hate it. And I hated it on my Asus laptop with a 3D Screen. Again, too dark. But when I tried to watch a 3D movie on the Gear VR, I truly liked it. I thought "now this is how 3D is supposed to be. VR is the gateway to true 3D". The "3D" experience makes sense only in VR. That's what you understand as soon as you try it.
Here's a link that can be helpful if you are interested: https://www.vrheads.com/how-watch-3d-movies-your-gear-vr
But still, something was missing. It was all there, but not quiet yet. I could still see individual pixels. This is called the "Screen-Door effect". Basically it means being able to differentiate pixels on the display. One thing was then obvious. The Display resolution of the Note 7 was not bad at all. But double it, and you'd have a better experience without the Screen Door Effect. 2K is not there yet. It gives you an idea what VR could be, but also states that "4K" is the resolution to start VR.
Here are some live examples on what I am talking about:
Here's a PC Game shot "Zoomed" and "Through its Lens" with the Occulus rift which renders around "2160 x 1200" resolution:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3yDMgiqqjI&index=7&list=PLVIzBp5A6H0pY5vktvnZomrUUK1de8zD9
Now, the exact same game, again shot "Zoomed" and "Through its Lens" with the Pimax 4K which offers 4K resolution:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlB5sCbezQM&index=6&list=PLVIzBp5A6H0pY5vktvnZomrUUK1de8zD9
Now you can easily imagine that when not zoomed you would hardly see any pixels on the Pimax 4K.
This shows how a 4K Display is the Milestone for VR. It's THE Resolution that once achieved, truly offers a decent VR experience all can embrace. Is it the ultimate? Of course not. 8K will be better, at 16k we won't see any pixels even when zooming etc... But 4K, even not the ultimate resolution that VR must reach to be perfect, is THE resolution that will validate VR and allow it to be mainstream. VR Should have started at 4K. It's safe to think that starting VR at 2K is premature and stained its capabilities.
With all that in mind, now maybe you could imagine an immersive 3D movie experience right in your pocket thanks to a 4K Display. And no movie theater or home tv system would even come close to compete with that experience.
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2. Virtual Desktop
You already know how much technology tries to shrink the size of computing. And based on the past, everyone accepts that the future is "Stronger tech in smaller package". With the Snapdragon 835, smartphones now take a bolder step toward pc level computing. And one of the first steps came with Samsung's Dex. To come to my point, let's first see what Samsung achieved with Dex.
The Dex is simply a dock connected to a monitor in which when you insert your Galaxsy S8, it changes the basic android interface to a PC like interface and transmits the changed pc like interface to the monitor it is connect to, for a PC Like experience. A mouse and keyboard connected to the phone thanks to bluetooth are the last peripherals that allows a full "pc like" usage.
Link for more info about the Dex: https://www.theverge.com/2017/3/29/15104600/samsung-dex-galaxy-s8-dock-announced-price-release-date
My Point is, you don't need that. You can use your Gear VR as a monitor for your Phone. Many apps allow that. But wait. That's not all. There's more.
What if I told you that you could use a true Full Featured PC with Intel and Nvidia level performance on your phone already. And you could use your Gear VR as the biggest monitor ever. Yes, this is possible thanks to a new streaming service called "Liquidsky". This service offers you a "Streamed PC" available to you anywhere you go. Your Steam account, or Ubisoft account any other gaming account including your game library and any other Desktop application you like can be used thanks to this PC streaming service.
What this allows you to do is incredible. You truly don't need a laptop anymore. Just your phone and you're done. The streaming service uses its own server to compute and process your games and your interaction with the minimum latency, and streams you the screen which you can watch on your phone's display. Since the service also supports VR, you can actually play your game on a huge VR Screen, bigger than any gaming monitor. Imagine playing your game on a Movie Theater. Yes. GTA 5 on a movie theater. Knowing that 2K is less than decent to watch video content, wouldn't you want to have a 4K Display for a total immersion?
On the link above you can watch how to use Liquidsky on Android. In the video you will see that they can play GTA 5 on the smartphone, thanks to their streaming service. And sony has already jumped on the Streaming bandwagon already with their Playstation NOW! Service. It's only a matter of time that it will be available on Android. But IT IS avalaible on PC. Which again, you could use Liquidsky to stream Playstation NOW, and there you have it. PS3 games on your smartphone.
Sony Playstation Now: https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/playstationnow/
Official Liquidsky website: https://liquidsky.com/
Liquidsky working on Android: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RQXRsrcObo
Any streaming service to come, like the one mentioned above, already is supporting, and will support, VR. So imagine playing your favorite PC or Playstation game thanks to your smartphone, on a gigantic Movie Theater size Screen on VR! With a 2K Display, the experience wouldn't be as neat and clear as a 4K Display. Any display on your smartphone short of 4K Resolution would make the experience "fun but tiring, not quiet there yet". 4K is THE resolution that would truly immerse you and make you forget that you are staring at a Virtual Screen.
3. Exclusive 4K Content for your Phone.
You realize that the two points I mentioned above are not even content directly aiming your smartphone. These are just the "side effects" of evolving smartphone technology toward VR capabilities. But there are so much more you can do just because your phone has a 4K Display. Here are basic VR and non VR features you can do with a 4K Display:
- Watching 4K 3D 360 or 180 degree videos. Way more immersive experience than what the common 2K content offers.
- Youtube's own 4K 3D, 4K 3D 360 Videos. If you think that 4K is niche, you should know that Youtube already jumped into 8K.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNdHaeBhT9Q
- Able to see 4K Videos and pictures you shot thanks to your device in their native resolution on your smartphone. About that here's a review where Erika tests the 4K Display on Sony's latest flagship, which unfortunately has an LCD screen which is terrible for VR. But still, even as it can't be used for VR, (at least not as effectively as an AMOLED Displays can), Erika reviews the Display and claims that "Yes your eyes are able to see the difference between 2k and 4K".
See it for yourself at the exact time of the Review: https://youtu.be/Hl28F5k20eg?t=536
- And of course the 4K VR gaming content that would soon enter the Android Playstore, as soon as Samsung stands behind the 4K Display.
------------ Bottom Line
4K Display is not just a gimmick. It could open the biggest and the sharpest window to what your phone could show you. It would definitely take off the VR experience drastically. And as I already told in my previous thread, Samsung, or any other phone company, MUST, SHOULD bring a 4K Amoled Display for VR as soon as possible, if they want VR to have a brighter future.
PS: Perviously mentioned Thread Link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/how-to/note-8-4k-display-t3622730
Also some mentions and questions how 4K would affect the Battery and the latest Sony 4K display flagship:
- Some worry about the Battery life. Well, this can easily be fixed as sony did on their latest flagship xperia XZ Premium. The phone uses a Full HD display for the everyday use. It initiates 4K when video applications starts. These can be change in options of course.
Same could be done for any 4K Display Smartphone. Just use a normal resolution for casual use, and switch to 4K when using VR, or a video app. Of course, even those settings could be change.
- Talking of the Sony Xperia XZ Premium, it has a 4K LCD Display which creates problems for VR such as motion blurr thus making it hard to use. Yes, it's weird to see Sony bring up a 4K display while totally ignoring VR.
Here's a review of the phone here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl28F5k20eg&t
The issue is not creating a 4K display. The issue at hand is creating hardware that can process and render that massive detail onto a 4K display. THAT and that alone is why it started at 2k. Storage is not at par. Internet needs gigabit speeds at the least. And video cards neeed at least 4x improvement. While I agree 4K is a minimum requirement, 4k VR is just not here yet and hardware companies like Nvidia or intel are in no rush to release capable hardware. There’s no profit in rushing
Hi,
1st off I love this phone. I am extremely pleased and have zero complaints so far. Buttery smooth too....
My Question is how is it possible that the screen resolution is adjustable? Does the display turn off pixels? Does it merge pixels? Please enlighten me..
Thanks,
Joel
I'm pretty sure it must be 'rooted' first to allow those changes.
old_fart said:
I'm pretty sure it must be 'rooted' first to allow those changes.
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Sorry even though u r pretty sure. This info is wrong. U DON'T need root. Just like samsung graxe ui. On LG V30 u go to display - screen resolution and switch between 720,1080 or qhd+.
But the OP never asked if changing resolution was possible. He most know that we can already change res in the setting. What he is asking is HOW does lowering resolution works.
Im not sure about this but from tv or any pc monitor u can upscale to max reolution of the monitor or downscale to a lower resolution. The pixel are still on but the screen is not push very hard.
Amoled are very power effecient and this has been discuss in the S8 forum for quite sometimes. After all the testing the xda members have been doing it seems that going from QHD down to 1080(full hd +). Doesnt save that much battery (around 5% better battery)
Actually I'm wondering because on a 1080p TV, when you feed it a 720p video, the TV stays 1080p. The video is just enlarged to fit the 1080p display. On the V30 I'm under the impression that the display will actually change. Kinda like having a 3 displays in 1...
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Actually I'm wondering because on a 1080p TV, when you feed it a 720p video, the TV stays 1080p. The video is just enlarged to fit the 1080p display. On the V30 I'm under the impression that the display will actually change. Kinda like having a 3 displays in 1...
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U wont see a smaller screen. The screen will stretch out edge to edge but it will look very blurry if u do 720p. Not so much in 1080p mode. So u can say that the software upcales lower resolution. Just like riptide 2 which u can lower or max res in the setting of the game.
Wait, so the software downscales? You sure? Just Android or all apps too? I don't think so. How could software down scaling effect battery life?
jjcorral said:
Wait, so the software downscales? You sure? Just Android or all apps too? I don't think so. How could software down scaling effect battery life?
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The screen is cap at 60 hz. Let say u are playing a game ( this goes with the ui smoothness aswell). Since the screen is cap at 60hz means that the fps is up to 60fps max/cap At 1080p is you play a game that can reach 80fps(cause is not pushing QHD pixel) the cpu/gpu doesnt have to work has hard. So instead of doing 80fps it only have to do 60fps meaning that cpu/gpu doesnt have to work 100% since is able to maintain easily the frame per second require from the 60hz screen.
This is why the new RAZER phone with 120hz screen can do 120fps.
Now if u increase the screen to qhd (1440p+). The same game with higher resolution the frame rate will be much lower. Now. The game probably is reaching 55fps instead of 80fps max (is an example). The screen is 60hz (60fps). So the cpu/gpu is gonna be working 100%. Much harder cause is trying to reach 60fps but it cant. Which equals more power comsuption, hotter device and also cpu/gpu throlling cause of the heat.