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So was reading about Microsoft making a win10 custom ROM for android devices. Any chance we'll see it for our g3's? I'd love to give it a try.
The only thing I read was that MS was making it possible for Windows 10 to run Android Apps. Nothing about actually running Windows 10 Mobile on an Android device. That's news to me.
As it is, I despise Windows 8. It's horrid on a PC. Why would I want to use my PC like a mobile device? Absolutely the WORST decision Microsoft has ever made in the history of Windows (well, other than Bob). In the same vein, I hate the Windows Mobile interface as well. Just do not like it, so even if this is to be possible, no way would I do it. LOL!
iBolski said:
The only thing I read was that MS was making it possible for Windows 10 to run Android Apps. Nothing about actually running Windows 10 Mobile on an Android device. That's news to me.
As it is, I despise Windows 8. It's horrid on a PC. Why would I want to use my PC like a mobile device? Absolutely the WORST decision Microsoft has ever made in the history of Windows (well, other than Bob). In the same vein, I hate the Windows Mobile interface as well. Just do not like it, so even if this is to be possible, no way would I do it. LOL!
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I read it on CNET. I only use desktop view on my win8 PC. I haven't tried windows phones. I know the old ones sucked ass back when it was just windows mobile. My brother in law is in school for game Dev and he's super excited for win10. It's supposed to be the greatest leap for windows ever, or some sh**. Runs 1/3 lighter than win8.
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I read it on CNET. I only use desktop view on my win8 PC. I haven't tried windows phones. I know the old ones sucked ass back when it was just windows mobile. My brother in law is in school for game Dev and he's super excited for win10. It's supposed to be the greatest leap for windows ever, or some sh**. Runs 1/3 lighter than win8.
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Ah, okay.
I remember that's what some people said about Windows 8. LOL! It still sucks regardless. We have Windows 2K12 servers here at work and when I have to log into one of those to administer web sites, I absolutely loath the interface. Start button my butt! It STILL pops me to that stupid main screen of tiles. If I want to find something not there, then I have move my mouse over to the search button way in the upper right-hand corner of the screen (of course, after clicking on the "Start" button to leave the desktop) and find it that way. I've pinned so many things to the task bar, it's uncanny. Worse design decision EVER by Microsoft.
Hey MS! My PC is NOT a mobile device! Quit treating it as such!
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Start button my butt! It STILL pops me to that stupid main screen of tiles.
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Or you could just use something like Classic Shell which will restore the start menu you are looking for.
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Or you could just use something like Classic Shell which will restore the start menu you are looking for.
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Yeah. I tried that and is does make it so much better, but it still just irks me how Microsoft decided to make a decision for me on how the ui should function and behave. Kind of like that fruit company. Lol. But 31st least, Microsoft didn't stop us from being able to use classic shell. Lol
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Yeah. I tried that and is does make it so much better, but it still just irks me how Microsoft decided to make a decision for me on how the ui should function and behave. Kind of like that fruit company. Lol. But 31st least, Microsoft didn't stop us from being able to use classic shell. Lol
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http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1...lock-classic-shell-in-windows-10-here-is-why/
To be fair I can understand doing this in the test builds since Microsoft is wanting feedback on their own start menu. But they have done it at this point what's to say they won't try to do this come prime time for Windows 10?
Its amazing to still see people struggling with windows 8.1/2012 r2. Functions just like any other windows to me. I press the start key, type the program I want, and it opens. Just like windows 7. Plus I can set it to boot to the desktop instead of the full screen start menu anyways. I bet most people don't even take the time organize tiles into named groups to make it look nice.
As for the Windows 10 on our G3's, I was thinking about this very same thing during the BUILD conference. Microsoft is actually testing a custom Windows 10 flashable ROM on I believe some Xiaomi phones. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised by "new" Microsoft if they open sourced this Windows 10 android mutant ROM.
They have already said that an open source version of Windows is definitely a possibility. Plus they are now supporting the Raspberry Pi 2 with a free Windows 10 build.
If there is one way that Microsoft could push me to a Windows 10 phone, it would have to be with Continuum. If I can have a phone with an x86 CPU, and be able to just connect it to a monitor and it becomes a fully blown PC! Then they have just made a customer out of me.
Windows 10 is great, but it's never going to run on the LG because no one is going to write the device specific drivers needed to make it work, which is also why ASOP/ CM ROMs never work very well .
People that hate Windows 8 don't have touch screens and Classic Shell installed.
From the beginning when asked about Windows 8, I've said, "only if you have a touch screen, otherwise you'll hate it".
I am looking forward to Windows 10.
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Its amazing to still see people struggling with windows 8.1/2012 r2. Functions just like any other windows to me. I press the start key, type the program I want, and it opens. Just like windows 7. Plus I can set it to boot to the desktop instead of the full screen start menu anyways. I bet most people don't even take the time organize tiles into named groups to make it look nice.
As for the Windows 10 on our G3's, I was thinking about this very same thing during the BUILD conference. Microsoft is actually testing a custom Windows 10 flashable ROM on I believe some Xiaomi phones. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised by "new" Microsoft if they open sourced this Windows 10 android mutant ROM.
They have already said that an open source version of Windows is definitely a possibility. Plus they are now supporting the Raspberry Pi 2 with a free Windows 10 build.
If there is one way that Microsoft could push me to a Windows 10 phone, it would have to be with Continuum. If I can have a phone with an x86 CPU, and be able to just connect it to a monitor and it becomes a fully blown PC! Then they have just made a customer out of me.
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I understand how it works, but it's still a major shock. I'm used to NOT having to switch from desktop mode to the tile mode and then have to search for my app. It's more clicks/operations:
1. Hit window key or start button to switch to start screen
2. Scan the tiles or move my mouse to the search button and click it.
3. Type in the app to find and run
Old way:
1. Hit the window key or start button.
2. Type in the search button and my app shows up and run it.
Again, this works great for mobile devices, but the desktop, it's hideous. And this is nothing new. Ubuntu did this years ago and it also was horrid and people despised it. To this day, on Ubuntu, I will not run that interface. I replace it with either the KDE desktop or something else.
The overall movement of the interface is just awkward on a PC. It makes no sense at all.
But, that's my opinion I guess, but it appears to be a lot of people's feelings as well.
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I understand how it works, but it's still a major shock. I'm used to NOT having to switch from desktop mode to the tile mode and then have to search for my app. It's more clicks/operations:
1. Hit window key or start button to switch to start screen
2. Scan the tiles or move my mouse to the search button and click it.
3. Type in the app to find and run
Old way:
1. Hit the window key or start button.
2. Type in the search button and my app shows up and run it.
Again, this works great for mobile devices, but the desktop, it's hideous. And this is nothing new. Ubuntu did this years ago and it also was horrid and people despised it. To this day, on Ubuntu, I will not run that interface. I replace it with either the KDE desktop or something else.
The overall movement of the interface is just awkward on a PC. It makes no sense at all.
But, that's my opinion I guess, but it appears to be a lot of people's feelings as well.
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You're already doing more work then you need to in Windows 8 to search for things. There's no need to ever move your mouse or click the search icon. Just press the windows key and start typing your program name. It starts searching automatically as soon as you start typing. Its the same function as in windows 7. The only difference is that the start menu is full screen with pin-able tiles for most used programs. In terms of how many clicks it takes to navigate to a program, its substantially less in 8 than in 7.
I've never really considered the windows 8 tile menu to be much of a "tablet mode" though. Just a fancy start menu. In windows 10 however, it goes a bit deeper to make the OS more touch friendly when it detects you are on a tablet. Its been great on my Surface Pro 3. Automatically puts it into tablet mode when I disconnect my type cover.
I am a fan of Windows 8.1 (not so much 8), but it did have issue that I think Microsoft has dealt with beautifully in Windows 10.
Ya'll are both making it harder than it needs to be, simply find the shortcut exe's you use frequently and put a shortcut on your desktop for them. Then, set the pc to auto boot to desktop. Then, the number of times you'll have to deal with the (admittedly hideous) metro start screen will be minimal
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Ya'll are both making it harder than it needs to be, simply find the shortcut exe's you use frequently and put a shortcut on your desktop for them. Then, set the pc to auto boot to desktop. Then, the number of times you'll have to deal with the (admittedly hideous) metro start screen will be minimal
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Or install Classic Shell which brings back the classic start menu and lets you bypass the Metro UI.
... or stick with Windows 7 like I am.
AngryManMLS said:
Or install Classic Shell which brings back the classic start menu and lets you bypass the Metro UI.
... or stick with Windows 7 like I am.
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And this is where I stay as well. Sorry, that Metro interface is horrid, period. Switching from desktop to the start screen is jarring to say the least. I just have NOT been able to get used to it. My PC does not have a touch screen, so it's even worse. My daughter has a notebook that has a touch screen, so it's fine there, but the UI is made for a touch screen and not every PC has one.
Yes, you can install Classic Shell, but again, why should I have to? Microsoft should have given us the option to have either one.
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And this is where I stay as well. Sorry, that Metro interface is horrid, period. Switching from desktop to the start screen is jarring to say the least. I just have NOT been able to get used to it. My PC does not have a touch screen, so it's even worse. My daughter has a notebook that has a touch screen, so it's fine there, but the UI is made for a touch screen and not every PC has one.
Yes, you can install Classic Shell, but again, why should I have to? Microsoft should have given us the option to have either one.
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To be fair I use Classic Shell on Windows 7 since I prefer the Windows XP Start Menu setup and I can customize things around such themeing and removing stuff that I don't use.
bb12489 said:
As for the Windows 10 on our G3's, I was thinking about this very same thing during the BUILD conference. Microsoft is actually testing a custom Windows 10 flashable ROM on I believe some Xiaomi phones. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised by "new" Microsoft if they open sourced this Windows 10 android mutant ROM.
They have already said that an open source version of Windows is definitely a possibility. Plus they are now supporting the Raspberry Pi 2 with a free Windows 10 build.
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I can see them putting out a flashable Windows ROM to certain devices, but no way it will be open source. They may well call it something like "Source Open Visual Basic" and make you use some proprietary IDE that only runs on Windows to manipulate themes or apps settings, but Microsoft will never open source any of their core products. Licensing and filesystems require separation of the two OS's. The only way they can get in on the Android action is to create some compatibility layer or emulator to run Android apps on their OS or build apps for distribution to Android users.
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I can see them putting out a flashable Windows ROM to certain devices, but no way it will be open source. They may well call it something like "Source Open Visual Basic" and make you use some proprietary IDE that only runs on Windows to manipulate themes or apps settings, but Microsoft will never open source any of their core products. Licensing and filesystems require separation of the two OS's. The only way they can get in on the Android action is to create some compatibility layer or emulator to run Android apps on their OS or build apps for distribution to Android users.
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http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/mobi...rm.10822948.125888.3530190.ReadMore_S2_Switch
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That's just giving instru...ff from Android or iPhone to a Windows phone.
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Just had Remix OS installed yesterday.
And I'm amazed how many HD games it's able to run. Runs them better than BlueStacks, AMIDuOS, MEmu and even as good as acual devices.
Only limitations are the games that require multi-touch. Like Limbo etc.
Where you have to press your finger on one part of screen and swipe up on another.
So, I was wondering, if Remix OS has Multi-Touch option ?
Please let me know.
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Same here any info on this matter?
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Yes I'd also like to know this. I installed Remix OS Marshmellow on VMWare Player 12 and it's working apart from multi-touch, and the screen is too small, I can't resize it.
As many of you already know, Google announced at the I/O 2016 that they are going to merge Chrome os and Android,in simple words they are going to add Google Play Store to Chromebooks.
Even though it's 'Google' who is coming to the party,i still believe that the winning point is still with Jide,the PRODUCTIVITY which Chrome os lacks.
So how do you think Jide can improve the RemixOs into a more productivity focused system that chrome is not capable of..? Feel free to share your ideas
1. Multi-user - Thanks to help from @HypoTurtle, I have multi-user working but it needs some improvements
2. Improved windowing and multi-tasking
3. SIM integration for systems that have data card slots - My Lenovo Twist has a SIM slot and it would be very helpful
4. Portability across laptops/tablets/phones - With a common interface and apps, I think it would def be a winner. I have same layout and apps on my phone and laptop now.
Just a few of my nice-to-haves
lollyjay said:
1. Multi-user - Thanks to help from @HypoTurtle, I have multi-user working but it needs some improvements
2. Improved windowing and multi-tasking
3. SIM integration for systems that have data card slots - My Lenovo Twist has a SIM slot and it would be very helpful
4. Portability across laptops/tablets/phones - With a common interface and apps, I think it would def be a winner. I have same layout and apps on my phone and laptop now.
Just a few of my nice-to-haves
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How did you manage to get multi-user working?
Thisu said:
How did you manage to get multi-user working?
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I used Nova Launcher widgets. There is a settings widget for users
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lollyjay said:
I used Nova Launcher widgets. There is a settings widget for users
Sent from my on Z00A using XDA Labs
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Got it... Thanks!
So which is best? RemixOs or Phoenix OS?
Which has less gpu issues? can Phoenix OS run Sonic 1 without frame buffer graphical issues like RemixOs and can it run FX-Racer Unlimited
without getting stuck on the loading screen before entering the race track? irc it worked without issue on bluestacks.
Both are based off Android-x86 5.1 so both should suffer from the same issues no???
Android-x86 also has a extra option called "apps compatibility" under settings says something about native bridge and ARM libraries but this option is
missing in RemixOs.
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So which is best? RemixOs or Phoenix OS?
Which has less gpu issues? can Phoenix OS run Sonic 1 without frame buffer graphical issues like RemixOs and can it run FX-Racer Unlimited
without getting stuck on the loading screen before entering the race track? irc it worked without issue on bluestacks.
Both are based off Android-x86 5.1 so both should suffer from the same issues no???
Android-x86 also has a extra option called "apps compatibility" under settings says something about native bridge and ARM libraries but this option is
missing in RemixOs.
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Phoenix runs cooler on my lappy for me(windows still the coolest) but there's some lag when launching/resizing apps, the hdd led will blink a lot, remix a lot smoother. Also on phoenix, sometimes chrome's webpage content will disappear if i open too many apps and take a second to reload when i switch back to chrome(like it swapped to hdd). Also there's no installer for google play services for phoenix as far as i can tell. As for app compatibility, 1 game i tried that worked in remix but didn't work in phoenix and funnily the amazon appstore that remix bundled doesn't work properly but it works flawless in phoenix, so it's pretty spotty.
Sonic is exactly the on Phoenix OS the framebuffer is broken on intel gpu both appear to be using the same gallium driver version.
FX-Racer Unlimited not sure I think i've found out neither Phonenix OS or Remix OS support touchscreen emulation just hardware keyboard + mouse input .so it's not getting any input, you'd think it'd the do mouse in dual / tandem as both touchscreen emulation and regular hardware mouse input.
Crossover is actually a commercial version of Wine with some extras. It's an application that, makes it possible to run Windows programs (.exe files) on other OS. It only works with Chromebook/Android devices with X86 processors
https://www.codeweavers.com/products/crossover-android
I have installed it on my Yoga Book and i got Steam and Unreal Tournament 2004 running. I also tried with Unreal Tournament GOTY and Battlefield, but i ran into some problems.
Does Krita work ?
I am thinking about installing Crossover. When I did the basic research I got confused about it running on Chrome vs. Android. Thanks for pointing out it works on the Yoga Book. I have applied and hope to get approved for the beta. I'll report back if and when I do.
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Does Krita work ?
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I don't know, because i can't run or install exe files. I can only run programs and games installed by the build in installer or steam. I wrote that as a feedback to the developer. Also that we can't use Esc key since it acts as the back button.
what about the windows performance then and the required space?
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what about the windows performance then and the required space?
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I havent mesaured the performance. But you can expect it to a lot better than dosbox, since it's not actually an Emulator That is also why your hardware need to have a x86 processor. It's also early to judge the performance, since it's still in Alpha.
It doesn't require a lot of space. I can't see how much space it uses since i have a couple games installed. The app itself were around 70 mb when i installed it.
FTL doesn't start up, sadly
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I don't know, because i can't run or install exe files. I can only run programs and games installed by the build in installer or steam. I wrote that as a feedback to the developer. Also that we can't use Esc key since it acts as the back button.
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Ok i just figured out, that the exe files must placed on the c drive to be runable. Krita x86 has a critical error when i try to run it. It might be fixed, since the app only is in alpha stage. I tried to run it as windows 7 and windows 10. maybe i need to manually install some aditional programs or modules like directx
Just got a reply from the developer. I should look out for an update with improved application compatibility. Sounds great to me
Crossover is using 416 mb space with nothing installed in it.
Thanks for sharing this info. I signed up and hope to test drive this on my Yoga Book too.
Hope to have some Windows photoshop action on the go.
Could not get Windows Gimp to install. Is there a lean version of photoshop or Lightroom that works with crossover Android yet?
There is a new update out. It should improve on compability, and it has a new interface.
How long did take for the beta invite to come? I would really like to give this a go, and i'm checking my email hourly.
Couple days
ClausG76 said:
Crossover is actually a commercial version of Wine with some extras. It's an application that, makes it possible to run Windows programs (.exe files) on other OS. It only works with Chromebook/Android devices with X86 processors
https://www.codeweavers.com/products/crossover-android
I have installed it on my Yoga Book and i got Steam and Unreal Tournament 2004 running. I also tried with Unreal Tournament GOTY and Battlefield, but i ran into some problems.
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What is the procedure to installing crossover on to the yoga book? I'm interested in using it but I'm a little confused on the installation process cay you help/advise please. Si
Installing of crossover is just an install from the play store, once your accepted on the beta test. (It wont appear before.) After that, you then install the windows apps your interested in, from within Crossover. Steam works well if that's what your after. Tried a few games. I could not get any versions of IE to work yet. Not that most people would want to. Otherwise it depends what windows apps you want.
Office does not work, at least the 2016 or 2013 version
Hello
Have anyone had any success in using Crossover? After the last update I can't get steam to run anymore. And I have C&C Red alert running. But it's running in a tiny window and the window goes black when the menu appear. I have been playing around with the resolution setting, but it doesn't help.
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Have anyone had any success in using Crossover? After the last update I can't get steam to run anymore. And I have C&C Red alert running. But it's running in a tiny window and the window goes black when the menu appear. I have been playing around with the resolution setting, but it doesn't help.
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Guy from Codeveawers replied
"A lot of the lightweight OpenGLES 3D graphics system that Android uses hasn't been connected into the corresponding OpenGL hooks that Crossover Android is trying to translate yet. So a lot of game titles will display a blank black screen or distorted graphics when run in Crossover Android. We continue to work on this and it should be able to run more games correctly over time."
I can run Finale 2014, Gimp 2.0, Libre Office, Text games editor, Mozilla Firefox, Note pad++.
I have tried games, but only Freeciv works good.
I have Zenfone 2 on RR 5.7.4.
Hello, everyone!
So as we all know, any developments to do with the Yoga Book seem to be very slow.
Considering a decent number of us have experimented with the Yoga Book, I thought it'd be a good idea to make a centralised place for methods that have worked for people, so we can all have a go and hopefully obtain similar results.
So the idea would hopefully end up being something along the lines of my Megathread (which is now in General).
I guess this is where I get the ball rolling...
Most Promising Leads for Installing Android (1/12/17)
I have tried to install Bliss OS, but with not much luck. Once you get passed the GRUB screen it says there was an emergency error of some kind and reboots the device.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/x86-bliss-x86-pc-s-t3534657
I found that his updated installer (v25.0004) doesn't work at all, but the latest version from the original developer worked fine, linked below:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/winapp-android-x86-installer-uefi-t3222483
I followed the following methods, all which resulted in a failed attempt, but the one with the most success was the first one:
- Easy install for Bliss-x86 UEFI/ESP
- For Bliss-x86 USB based installs
- Custom install for Bliss-x86 UEFI/ESP
My next attempt will be with Phoenix OS.
OLD INFO (as of 1/12/17)
Edit: I managed to replicate my situation twice. So I now have a method. Will post more info soon.
Okay... so if you want to get into Remix OS (knowing it's only temporary), here's how to replicate what I did. But make sure you have the following tools:
- USB keyboard & microUSB to USB adaptor (for the keyboard)
- Remix OS (I'm using the 64-bit version)
- A bit of time
What I did:
- Install Remix OS (doesn't matter what size you choose; 8, 16 or 32) on your C: Drive (main Local Disk) with the bundled installer
- Reboot when it finishes (via the dialog box, don't reboot any other way... it won't work properly)
- Give it about 10-15 minutes on the first boot. It'll be "stuck" at this Android-looking thing (mine's all glitched up and stuff)
- When it's done it'll show a black screen, and the Pencil icon to switch the Halo Keyboard on/off will stop turning on&off, it'll instead just stay on 100% of the time
- Reboot again, again choosing to boot into Remix OS
- As soon as you choose Remix OS, you NEED to hold the escape (ESC) key!!! If you don't do this, you'll have to start from scratch
- If you did it right, it'll come up with a couple lines of code, and then after a couple second it'll say "ANDROID" underneath the code, and everything will load up
- Everything should be in portrait-mode, but you should have no graphical glitches now, and should see the setup screen
- The touch-screen still shouldn't work here, you need to use the keyboard to navigate through the setup. If the Wi-Fi bit isn't connecting properly, do that later (just skip that step, up the top right). I left Google Play Services enabled, it doesn't matter, it won't ask for your information unless you open a Google App.
- When you finish the installation, everything should work (except the Halo Keyboard of course)
- To make Remix OS take up the whole screen instead of just the middle... go to the Settings App -> Remix OS Settings (whatever the top one is) -> Always show landscape thingo, toggling this off will make it use the whole screen instead of that little square in the middle.
This is far as I've gotten. I've tried getting USB Debugging to work, but it doesn't want to work. Bluetooth doesn't work for me, nor does changing the brightness. I wouldn't lock the tablet either, sometimes that doesn't work. Also don't try use the Google Play Store, because when you finish entering your information, it'll likely crash and you'll have to start over again. Rebooting will reset everything.
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I've had some random luck (as told in my recent post, I'll quote it here) with Remix OS.
I had a minor breakthrough last night. I don't know how I managed it though.
So Remix OS has an installer application you can run from within Windows. I used that, then rebooted into Remix OS. The first boot was met with just lots of graphical errors, but when I rebooted again into Remix OS, it booted perfectly. Android was running smoothly, everything worked (the touch screen, Wi-Fi, etc. - but not the Halo Keyboard). However, when I rebooted again, it stopped working. I was not able to successfully replicate that again - even with many re-installations of Remix OS.
I'll continue to mess with it, but if anyone has Windows and wants to attempt getting Android on it, this may be a viable method they can try. But of course, it's not perfect so don't do anything you don't know how to do just yet.
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Somehow I managed to get it working, but only temporarily.
If I'm able to replicate this situation again, I may be able to install the Stock ROM alongside Windows 10. However, I don't have all the time in the world, so this may take a long while.
General Yoga Book Information:
To my knowledge, there are two versions of the Yoga Book, each with two sub-versions for the OS:
1.) YB1-X9aF - this is the Wi-Fi version
2.) YB1-X9aL - this is the LTE/4G version
Where the "a" between the 9 and the F/L is either a zero or a one, depending on the installed OS (Android: 0, Windows 10: 1)
The SIM card is a Nano-SIM with 3G capability.
Other than that, all Yoga Book devices share the following specifications:
- 10.1 inch IPS display, of resolution 1920x1200
- Intel Atom x5-Z8550 processor, which:
----+ Has an architecture of x86_64 (ie. 64-bit)
----+ Core base clock of 1.44 gigahertz
----+ Core boost clock of 2.4 gigahertz
----+ 4 cores and 4 threads
- Battery capacity of 8500 milliampere hours
- On-board storage of 64 gigabytes of solid-state storage (SSD)
- 4 gigabytes of random-access memory (RAM)
- A microSD card slot capable of up to 128 gigabytes of storage
- Two camera's, one above the display and one on the keyboard
- Wi-Fi (802.11 ac) and Bluetooth (v4)
- 3.5 millimetre headphone jack
- Micro-USB 2.0 OTG port
- Micro-HDMI port
Any information I put about my experience will be with the YB1-X91F version (aka Windows 10 Wi-Fi)
Dual OS or Switching the pre-installed one:
I have attempted getting Android on my Yoga Book, and completely deleting everything Windows. This has obviously not gone very well for me.
Version's I've tried:
- Android x86 6.0-r1
- Android x86_64 6.0-r1
- Android x86 6.0 20160129
- Android Nougat x86 20160902
- Android 4.2.2-r1 "ia3-core mesa-userdebug"
- Remix OS (32 & 64-bit)
The one I personally have had the most success with (by that I mean I've gotten it to display the Android set-up screen with no touch-input) is the 32-bit version of 6.0-r1 (so the first one on my list above).
Other OS's that I've tried/succeeded in running:
- GParted Live 0.28.1-2 i686 (although, the whole screen is in portrait mode)
- Ubuntu 16.10 Desktop (amd64 - so it obviously didn't work)
- Windows 10 with AMIDuOS on-top (honestly wasn't that great)
Currently testing:
- Windows 10 with BlueStacks on-top
TLDR:
If you're on the Windows 10 version of the Yoga Book, I cannot recommend attempting to install Android on it (even with a dual-boot) at this current time. This will probably change if x86 Android update their ROM/Image, though.
I'm currently testing the practicality of putting BlueStacks on-top of Windows 10, which is a player that allows you to run Android apps. The only thing I'm keeping an eye on is battery life (since it'll be doing background tasks for Windows AND Android). However, you will at least have full functionality - especially with the Halo Keyboard.
Ehh... BlueStacks isn't that great after all. Personally I'd stick with Windows apps if you need something like that.
I will add more info and links later on, I just wanted to get this out before hitting the hay. Australia's time difference sucks.
AmiDuOS works for me but the keyboard language cannot be changed somehow.
nan0s7 said:
Hello, everyone!
So as we all know, any developments to do with the Yoga Book seem to be very slow.
Considering a decent number of us have experimented with the Yoga Book, I thought it'd be a good idea to make a centralised place for methods that have worked for people, so we can all have a go and hopefully obtain similar results.
So the idea would hopefully end up being something along the lines of my Megathread (which is now in General).
I guess this is where I get the ball rolling...
General Yoga Book Information:
To my knowledge, there are two versions of the Yoga Book, each with two sub-versions for the OS:
1.) YB1-X9aF - this is the Wi-Fi version
2.) YB1-X9aL - this is the LTE/4G version
Where the "a" between the 9 and the F/L is either a zero or a one, depending on the installed OS (Android: 0, Windows 10: 1)
Any information I put about my experience will be with the YB1-X91F version (aka Windows 10 Wi-Fi)
Dual OS or Switching the pre-installed one:
I have attempted getting Android on my Yoga Book, and completely deleting everything Windows. This has obviously not gone very well for me.
Version's I've tried:
- Android x86 6.0-r1
- Android x86_64 6.0-r1
- Android x86 6.0 20160129
- Android Nougat x86 20160902
- Android 4.2.2-r1 "ia3-core mesa-userdebug"
- Remix OS (32 & 64-bit)
The one I personally have had the most success with (by that I mean I've gotten it to display the Android set-up screen with no touch-input) is the 32-bit version of 6.0-r1 (so the first one on my list above).
Other OS's that I've tried/succeeded in running:
- GParted Live 0.28.1-2 i686 (although, the whole screen is in portrait mode)
- Ubuntu 16.10 Desktop (amd64 - so it obviously didn't work)
Currently testing:
- Windows 10 with AMIDuOS on-top
TLDR:
If you're on the Windows 10 version of the Yoga Book, I cannot recommend attempting to install Android on it (even with a dual-boot) at this current time. This will probably change if x86 Android update their ROM/Image, though.
I'm currently testing the practicality of putting AMIDuOS on-top of Windows 10, which will be like having an app that just runs Android. The only thing I'm keeping an eye on is battery life (since it'll be doing background tasks for Windows AND Android). However, you will at least have full functionality - especially with the Halo Keyboard.
I will add more info and links later on, I just wanted to get this out before hitting the hay. Australia's time difference sucks.
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deepsync said:
AmiDuOS works for me but the keyboard language cannot be changed somehow.
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Have you tried different keyboard apps?
Well on screen keyboard works fine. I just can't change the key mappings of the Halo keyboard to my German keyboard. English may work as that seems to be the default.
deepsync said:
Well on screen keyboard works fine. I just can't change the key mappings of the Halo keyboard to my German keyboard. English may work as that seems to be the default.
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Hmm you're right. I've tried switching to a Polish keyboard in AMIDuOS, and it doesn't work at all. Although I didn't try switching the keyboard language in Windows, and then using AMIDuOS. I'm kind of optimistic that that method may work, so possibly give that a try if you haven't yet?
Are you gonna try again if you can get your hands on Lenovo's stock Yoga Book ROM?
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Are you gonna try again if you can get your hands on Lenovo's stock Yoga Book ROM?
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I do actually have a copy of the stock ROM, but not in a format I can put on the Yoga Book without the Android bootloader installed. The versions of Android I tested were ones that include the files for the bootloader and such, but they didn't want to work properly.
If something new comes up, or I get another idea, I will for sure try again. I prefer to use Android over Windows, any day.
I had a minor breakthrough last night. I don't know how I managed it though.
So Remix OS has an installer application you can run from within Windows. I used that, then rebooted into Remix OS. The first boot was met with just lots of graphical errors, but when I rebooted again into Remix OS, it booted perfectly. Android was running smoothly, everything worked (the touch screen, Wi-Fi, etc. - but not the Halo Keyboard). However, when I rebooted again, it stopped working. I was not able to successfully replicate that again - even with many re-installations of Remix OS.
I'll continue to mess with it, but if anyone has Windows and wants to attempt getting Android on it, this may be a viable method they can try. But of course, it's not perfect so don't do anything you don't know how to do just yet.
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However, when I rebooted again, it stopped working. I was not able to successfully replicate that again - even with many re-installations of Remix OS.
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Why so much headache? If you are having the Windows Version how often do you really miss Android? What Apps are not present under Windows? I am absolutely not a gamer, that's probably why I don't really have the need for Android... Anyhow, why installing Remix OS and risking to mess up with the Bootloader? I tried NOX Player and KO Player. The last one works very smooth on an Atom Processor. KO Player even let you go Fullscreen. Everything works out off the box as it's just a layer, Halo Keyboard, Pen, just all works and pretty decent. Many low equipped Android Tablets perform slower...
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Why so much headache? If you are having the Windows Version how often do you really miss Android? What Apps are not present under Windows? I am absolutely not a gamer, that's probably why I don't really have the need for Android... Anyhow, why installing Remix OS and risking to mess up with the Bootloader? I tried NOX Player and KO Player. The last one works very smooth on an Atom Processor. KO Player even let you go Fullscreen. Everything works out off the box as it's just a layer, Halo Keyboard, Pen, just all works and pretty decent. Many low equipped Android Tablets perform slower...
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I've got Windows machines all around me. Which is... tolerable. But it's more that I just enjoy having Android on my device, and I do really enjoy messing with tech. I've gotten so close to getting Android on my tablet, it's just a project to really satisfy my time with. Plus, with Android I have more control over everything
nan0s7 said:
I've gotten so close to getting Android on my tablet, it's just a project to really satisfy my time with. Plus, with Android I have more control over everything
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As a techie achievement I totally understand. But I doubt you will get all the drivers working properly. Halo Keyboard, Wacom & AnyPen for example. But good luck... On the other hand I have to insist: Windows gives you more control over everything... lol...
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As a techie achievement I totally understand. But I doubt you will get all the drivers working properly. Halo Keyboard, Wacom & AnyPen for example. But good luck... On the other hand I have to insist: Windows gives you more control over everything... lol...
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Once I get some sort of Android on it, that will allow me to flash a ROM that has all the drivers in it. And it depends what you define control as...
nan0s7 said:
Once I get some sort of Android on it, that will allow me to flash a ROM that has all the drivers in it. And it depends what you define control as...
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Hey dude,
It looks like this thread hasn't had a great deal of attention lately, which is kinda sad. I figured it would be a really tricky endeavour anyway.
Anywho, just letting you know that if you do ever figure this out, there's one chick in Australia whom will owe you her eternal thanks.
Seriously, I tried to Remix, I tried to x86, but all it got me was a trip to Harvey Norman and a 2-5 week waiting period to get my book back. If you get a flashable Android ROM for this thing you will be my favourite person in the whole world ever. :laugh:
Melliejoy said:
Hey dude,
It looks like this thread hasn't had a great deal of attention lately, which is kinda sad. I figured it would be a really tricky endeavour anyway.
Anywho, just letting you know that if you do ever figure this out, there's one chick in Australia whom will owe you her eternal thanks.
Seriously, I tried to Remix, I tried to x86, but all it got me was a trip to Harvey Norman and a 2-5 week waiting period to get my book back. If you get a flashable Android ROM for this thing you will be my favourite person in the whole world ever. :laugh:
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Haha damn sounds like a.... fun time
But yeah, there hasn't been much progress. I mean you could always run an emulator on-top of Windows if you NEED an Android tablet.
nan0s7 said:
Haha damn sounds like a.... fun time
But yeah, there hasn't been much progress. I mean you could always run an emulator on-top of Windows if you NEED an Android tablet.
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I didn't NEED Android until I discovered Freeview FV, so I could watch Highway Patrol without taking the TV from my hubby. Between that and the few apps I use for D&D, I'm sort of regretting going with the Windows version.
I can't really do anything until I get it back, anyway. The furthest I got was successfully installing Remix, but it wouldn't accept any external input when trying to select it from the boot menu. I guess I could use an emu, but it's not as good as the real thing.
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I didn't NEED Android until I discovered Freeview FV, so I could watch Highway Patrol without taking the TV from my hubby. Between that and the few apps I use for D&D, I'm sort of regretting going with the Windows version.
I can't really do anything until I get it back, anyway. The furthest I got was successfully installing Remix, but it wouldn't accept any external input when trying to select it from the boot menu. I guess I could use an emu, but it's not as good as the real thing.
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Yeah I wish I had gotten the Android version, but I got mine for a reduced price... so I can't complain too much ;P
Yeah... none of the emus are perfect anyway. I'm hoping that a new version of x86 Android or Remix OS will allow me to get ADB to work, so I can then flash Android. But I'm not holding my breath for that.
Any recent experimenting with Remix? Im about to download it and see what I can gather. Too bad there's about zero android devs on this thing. Im sure a custom Kernel under RemixOS would be fix most of its problems.
sawyerbenjamin said:
Any recent experimenting with Remix? Im about to download it and see what I can gather. Too bad there's about zero android devs on this thing. Im sure a custom Kernel under RemixOS would be fix most of its problems.
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Nah I haven't done anything recently. But if you're having trouble getting things booted use my method (assuming it still works now) and I guess see what you can do
nan0s7 said:
I do actually have a copy of the stock ROM, but not in a format I can put on the Yoga Book without the Android bootloader installed. The versions of Android I tested were ones that include the files for the bootloader and such, but they didn't want to work properly.
If something new comes up, or I get another idea, I will for sure try again. I prefer to use Android over Windows, any day.
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Is your stock ROM for YB1-X90F or YB1-X90L?
ljbha007 said:
Is your stock ROM for YB1-X90F or YB1-X90L?
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I have both. Got them from easy-firmware (had to pay for the X90F version).
They're not "ROMS" so much as they are just a way to replace Android with this particular version. So it comes with all the .img files for each partition you'd normally see (system, boot, etc.) and some scripts to use with the Intel flasher program thingo.