Hey after reading the software policy on Honor's website, still left wondering. Will it get the update?
Nougat update will be made for Honor 5X. It will take little more time than stock androids.
Remember that Honor 4X, which was released with Kitkat is now running Marshmallow.
Yes it will get,Timeframe 2-3 months
I will bet my money it will, it'll just take some more time then other OEMs, like it did with the marshmallow update, and if not, we can always go through the custom rom route and get it some time later in the future.
itsrustlife said:
I will bet my money it will, it'll just take some more time then other OEMs, like it did with the marshmallow update, and if not, we can always go through the custom rom route and get it some time later in the future.
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Custom ROMs are always better, everyday I look on cyanogenmod's github page for the 5x. Too bad no CM14 commitment yet :/
I've been hearing that yes the 5x will be getting the update with (Communication Gods willing) a 'more stock/softened version of EMUI". So I figure give it about 4 months after official release maybe a bit longer...
Wolfhawke said:
I've been hearing that yes the 5x will be getting the update with (Communication Gods willing) a 'more stock/softened version of EMUI". So I figure give it about 4 months after official release maybe a bit longer...
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May I ask where you are hearing this?
Wolfhawke said:
I've been hearing that yes the 5x will be getting the update with (Communication Gods willing) a 'more stock/softened version of EMUI". So I figure give it about 4 months after official release maybe a bit longer...
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From what I saw, EMUI 5 is still far from stock Android
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JT-on said:
May I ask where you are hearing this?
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Honor promised a timeframe of 2-3 months to push nougat
JT-on said:
May I ask where you are hearing this?
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He is Joan of Arc's son...
Sorry I red their software policy concerning the 5x and 8.
https://store.hihonor.com/us/software-update-policy
Maybe I was interpreting the policy wrong that's why I linked it.
So far no news yet
I don't think so Not all flagship devices will get android N so it is impossible for honor 5x..
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Leo_Star1982 said:
I don't think so Not all flagship devices will get android N so it is impossible for honor 5x..
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Actually honor said the 5x will get nougat, it's official
hope it will, huawei/honor has recently commited to 2years of software support...
Leo_Star1982 said:
I don't think so Not all flagship devices will get android N so it is impossible for honor 5x..
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The reason for some other flagship devices not getting Nougat is that their processor wont support Vulkan API.
Since both Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 are powered by the Snapdragon 800 SoC, they are not likely to support Nougat.
According to Wikipedia's list of supported processors, Snapdragon 200, 208, 210, 212, 400, 410, 412, 600, 800 and 801 chipsets does not support Android N. Qualcomm said that the graphic drivers won't be released for the above mentioned SoC's.
Some of the prominent handsets affected by Qualcomm's decision are as follows
Samsung Galaxy S5
Samsung Galaxy Note 3
LG G3
LG Nexus 5
Sony Xperia Z3
Motorola Moto X 2nd. Gen
HTC One M8
OnePlus One
OnePlus X
Xiaomi Mi4
List of other affected prominent mobiles due to other Soc's are,
Galaxy A7
Galaxy A8
Galaxy S5, S5 Plus
Galaxy Note 4
Galaxy Note Pro
Meizu MX4 Pro
Galaxy A5
HTC Desire 828, 830
Honor 6
Honor 7
Huawei P8
Huawei Mate S
Since Honor 5X is running on Snapdragon 616, it will get Nougat for sure.
Here is the list of Vulcan API supported Soc's from Wiki (Vulcan API - WIki)
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The reason for some other flagship devices not getting Nougat is that their processor wont support Vulkan API.
Since both Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 are powered by the Snapdragon 800 SoC, they are not likely to support Nougat.
According to Wikipedia's list of supported processors, Snapdragon 200, 208, 210, 212, 400, 410, 412, 600, 800 and 801 chipsets does not support Android N. Qualcomm said that the graphic drivers won't be released for the above mentioned SoC's.
Some of the prominent handsets affected by Qualcomm's decision are as follows
Samsung Galaxy S5
Samsung Galaxy Note 3
LG G3
LG Nexus 5
Sony Xperia Z3
Motorola Moto X 2nd. Gen
HTC One M8
OnePlus One
OnePlus X
Xiaomi Mi4
List of other affected prominent mobiles due to other Soc's are,
Galaxy A7
Galaxy A8
Galaxy S5, S5 Plus
Galaxy Note 4
Galaxy Note Pro,
Meizu MX4 Pro
Galaxy A5
HTC Desire 828, 830
Honor 6,
Honor 7
Huawei P8
Huawei Mate S
Since Honor 5X is running on Snapdragon 616, it will get Nougat for sure.
Here is the list of Vulcan API supported Soc's from Wiki (Vulcan API - WIki)
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so sad, most of the prominent devices will be left out
venom007 said:
so sad, most of the prominent devices will be left out
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Only who have 32-bit processors (by their manufacturer).
Devs at XDA will make them taste nougat (like they did with nexus 4,5 and 7)
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Only who have 32-bit processors (by their manufacturer).
Devs at XDA will make them taste nougat (like they did with nexus 4,5 and 7)
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hopefully they will do, bt getting official update is always better(newer drivers)
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hopefully they will do, bt getting official update is always better(newer drivers)
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Absolutely, but unfortunately the Vulkan API was an excuse for OEMs not to update older devices, just to force to buy a newer model if you want official nougat
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Absolutely, but unfortunately the Vulkan API was an excuse for OEMs not to update older devices, just to force to buy a newer model if you want official nougat
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i have honor 5x,5c,7 and huawei p9.
well, i feel sad for honor 7
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1) It will be optimised to work perfectly on low-end hardware – even devices with 512MB of RAM so canvas HD will benefit even more.
2) It will use 3.8 Linux kernel.
3) Software Improvements.
4) Complete UI overhaul which would look like our current Google Play store (both desktop and app).
5) etc.
Experimental 3.8 Kernel:- https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/common/+/experimental/android-3.8
Kernel is the centre of attraction, why? because
The 3.8 kernel is supposed to handle memory more efficiently and/or use less. That means there is a good chance that devices that currently have Android 4.1 may even run better on Android 5.0, because of having more available memory. Maybe 1GB of RAM will last longer than anyone thought! and Moto X supports the statement as it's a low end device compared to the competition in the market i.e Galaxy S4, HTC One & Xperia Z. That would help Android fragmentation a lot if 1GB turns out to be plenty of RAM for Android 5.0.
Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie is rumoured to release this october.
Update 1:-
Android 4.3 was released not so long ago for the Nexus 4 and new Nexus 7 2 with build number JWR66V and JSS15J respective, and if you notice these numbers do not have a K in it at all.
Android 4.3 was released a about a month ago and tests have been ongoing with Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie, has this new operating system just been confirmed? The reason is because new reports showing up on the Chromium Project reveals the Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 2 running KLP 5.0 OS.
The site also shows that the Samsung Galaxy S4 number is at JDQ39.I9500UBUAMDK, the Galaxy S3 with JRO03C, and the Note 2 with JZO54K, the first letter for these three devices say J, which means Jelly Bean. So to see the Nexus 7 with KRS36B and the Nexus 4 with KRS36B, this means the K is for key Lime Pie.
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this august ?? No way ..heard that somewhere around november it will be released
Just hoping that Micromax will release it for Canvas HD.
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shreyasgk said:
this august ?? No way ..heard that somewhere around november it will be released
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Reliable sources say it will be released this October. Lets keep our fingers crossed
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Just hoping that Micromax will release it for Canvas HD.
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Even if they don't, Canvas 4 will get it for sure and it would not be hard to port to Canvas HD due to same hardware
Odd they released 4.3yesterday I didn't think they'd release key lime next month
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Odd they released 4.3yesterday I didn't think they'd release key lime next month
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The Nexus 5 by LG is going to arrive in October and you know every next gen Nexus gets a new Android OS which is the Google way(i.e. Key Lime Pie).
I think they did not unveil KLP at Google I/O because they wanted to save it for the Nexus event. These are just guesses but a lot of trusted sources are confirming that it will be unveiled in October at Nexus launch event.
Maybe but
sskullcrusherr said:
The Nexus 5 by LG is going to arrive in October and you know every next gen Nexus gets a new Android OS which is the Google way(i.e. Key Lime Pie).
I think they did not unveil KLP at Google I/O because they wanted to save it for the Nexus event. These are just guesses but a lot of trusted sources are confirming that it will be unveiled in October at Nexus launch event.
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If it's going to be released in august then by now we would have at least got some leaked screen shots or features of KLP .. We don't have any leaked posts about it in gsmarena or other websites .. That's why I think it will be
****. How can I make a mistake. Sorry guys it's October. and Samsung devices that will get 5.0 update list leaked.
Link:- http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/18573/20130628/android-5-0-key-lime-pie-release-date-leak-list-samsung.htm
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****. How can I make a mistake. Sorry guys it's October. and Samsung devices that will get 5.0 update list leaked.
Link:- http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/18573/20130628/android-5-0-key-lime-pie-release-date-leak-list-samsung.htm
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hi
thanks again i see : GT-N8000 - Galaxy Note 10.1 in the samsung list :good::laugh:
so hoping to get it for mine when only god knows i thing it will take min 3 months not Aug:good::laugh:
MMX will never give it to us but then we have great developers who will give it to us
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hi
thanks again i see : GT-N8000 - Galaxy Note 10.1 in the samsung list :good::laugh:
so hoping to get it for mine when only god knows i thing it will take min 3 months not Aug:good::laugh:
MMX will never give it to us but then we have great developers who will give it to us
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They will release it for Canvas 4 for sure so it won't be a problem to port it to Canvas HD as both have same specs
But I think MMX will release it for HD if they are releasing it for Canvas 4.
Updated.
Hi all!
I just received my brand new Redmi Note 4.
Is there any plan for having a brilliant Cyanogenmod on it? :silly:
Thanks and cheers,
Simone
slongoni said:
Hi all!
I just received my brand new Redmi Note 4.
Is there any plan for having a brilliant Cyanogenmod on it? :silly:
Thanks and cheers,
Simone
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If that Note 4 has the Snapdragon CPU then I'm sure there will be CM for it, but I think yours has the MediaKEK
Yes mdk X20 helio....
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I think it's quite possible, thanks to the Vernee Apollo Lite that has almost identical hardware (SOC and camera) and an open source AOSP ROM. It should be possible to port that to the Redmi Note 4, and build CyanogenMod based on its source. If a Snapdragon Redmi Note 4 is released, some of the proprietary blobs can be merged if its source code is released.
xdadevet said:
I think it's quite possible, thanks to the Vernee Apollo Lite that has almost identical hardware (SOC and camera) and an open source AOSP ROM. It should be possible to port that to the Redmi Note 4, and build CyanogenMod based on its source. If a Snapdragon Redmi Note 4 is released, some of the proprietary blobs can be merged if its source code is released.
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Is it really possible to port the rom of vernee apollo to rn4!?!?
I wanna help if there is any existing development project.
PETEroid said:
Is it really possible to port the rom of vernee apollo to rn4!?!?
I wanna help if there is any existing development project.
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To some extent, yes. But there are still Xiaomi specific drivers and source code that they either have to release or has to be patched together (usually happens if a device is popular). Considering how popular the Redmi Note 3 Pro is and how beautiful the Redmi Note 4 is, I think we just have to wait a little. Most developers that shop in that price range is still rather going to go for the Redmi Note 3 Pro though.
I had Redmi Note 3 Pro 32GB before (bought for $220 from an unofficial distributor, now it's $175), but it was stolen from me. Earlier this year Xiaomi launched the Redmi Note 3 Pro officially in Indonesia. Unfortunately the Note 3 Pro has the 4G LTE disabled by Xiaomi if the phone detects an Indonesian SIM card inserted (it had to do with Indonesian regulations that required 40% of the material of a 4G LTE enabled phones to be sourced locally, else they won't be allowed to sell it here officially).
So when it's time to buy a new phone, I decided to go for the similarly priced Redmi Note 4 with 64GB of storage for only $195, to save me the hassle of unlocking, creating a modified boot.img, flashing TWRP, rooting, replacing the TeleService.apk and repeating the whole god-damned process every time there's a MIUI update. So, not everybody would go for the Redmi 3 Pro vs the Note 4.
Overall, I enjoy this new phone: the superior build quality, double-tap-to-wake function, and the faster fingerprint sensor. What would make this phone even better if there's an official CyanogenMod build for it. But I guess it will never happens. Oh well, I'll just buy a Mi5 or Mi Mix next year.
I wouldn't buy Xiaomi or Redmi, unless, there is a CM for the variant. Without CM, I personally think it is a piece of crap whatsoever. =P
MIUI is so much over-bloated. Looking forward to seeing one CM build. My colleague just bought one and is expecting to get it this afternoon as we speak.
Hopefully CM will be out some time in November~~~He was so impressed by my Redmi 3 pro's performance, lol
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I wouldn't buy Xiaomi or Redmi, unless, there is a CM for the variant. Without CM, I personally think it is a piece of crap whatsoever. =P
MIUI is so much over-bloated. Looking forward to seeing one CM build. My colleague just bought one and is expecting to get it this afternoon as we speak.
Hopefully CM will be out some time in November~~~He was so impressed by my Redmi 3 pro's performance, lol
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But that's your opinion. Maybe, there will be CM. Still, the phone is cheap, and it has decent specs. I'm just fine with RM 4.
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But that's your opinion. Maybe, there will be CM. Still, the phone is cheap, and it has decent specs. I'm just fine with RM 4.
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I just saw my colleague's RMN4 last night, quite impressive with the color, instantly caught my eyes. It is definitely a good deal. CM on it would make it even smoother & sweeter. I am thinking to get one also for myself when CM is out.
xstormli said:
I wouldn't buy Xiaomi or Redmi, unless, there is a CM for the variant. Without CM, I personally think it is a piece of crap whatsoever. =P
MIUI is so much over-bloated. Looking forward to seeing one CM build. My colleague just bought one and is expecting to get it this afternoon as we speak.
Hopefully CM will be out some time in November~~~He was so impressed by my Redmi 3 pro's performance, lol
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While MIUI is definitely an "acquired taste" I don't think it's that bad. There are a lot of features I would otherwise struggle to get working properly on an AOSP based ROM, and I'd still rather use it than almost any other mainstream OEM ROM. My mine gripe with it is its aggressive memory management, terrible task switcher, and disjointed settings menu. At least it's fluid and decent looking, and the built-in theming is one of the better implementations. I would say it actually adds lots of value to most of their customers and my friends whose Xiaomi phones I rooted prefer the EU MIUI ROM to CM.
xdadevet said:
I think it's quite possible, thanks to the Vernee Apollo Lite that has almost identical hardware (SOC and camera) and an open source AOSP ROM. It should be possible to port that to the Redmi Note 4, and build CyanogenMod based on its source. If a Snapdragon Redmi Note 4 is released, some of the proprietary blobs can be merged if its source code is released.
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Last night I've tried to port CM13 from Vernee Apollp Lite to RMN4. It's successfully booted to Home screen but a lots strange bugs I never seen before (can't touch after phone go to sleep, Wifi can't connect to any WPA network...)
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longnt2007 said:
Last night I've tried to port CM13 from Vernee Apollp Lite to RMN4. It's successfully booted to Home screen but a lots strange bugs I never seen before (can't touch after phone go to sleep, Wifi can't connect to any WPA network...)
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Good work it's a start and huge progress to even get it booting.
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longnt2007 said:
Last night I've tried to port CM13 from Vernee Apollp Lite to RMN4. It's successfully booted to Home screen but a lots strange bugs I never seen before (can't touch after phone go to sleep, Wifi can't connect to any WPA network...)
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:good::good::good::good:
Perfect! Thank you. Did you have device tree? You can upload and post here the link of your firmware?
Nice to see someone trying to port CM to RN4.
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Last night I've tried to port CM13 from Vernee Apollp Lite to RMN4. It's successfully booted to Home screen but a lots strange bugs I never seen before (can't touch after phone go to sleep, Wifi can't connect to any WPA network...)
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Thanks for following up on that message of mine (glad to see it worked, good job getting it to boot). The Redmi Note 4s I ordered are yet to come (first package was lost). Hopefully, this would attract the attention of some of the developers to help you get a stable build for the device. However, I myself would be moving to the LeEco Le Max 2, as this is a Snapdragon device (an SD820 with 4GB DDR4 RAM and UFS2.0 storage and Sony camera) with its sources available for around the same price as the Redmi Note 4. ($220 vs $180).
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Thanks for following up on that message of mine (glad to see it worked, good job getting it to boot). The Redmi Note 4s I ordered are yet to come (first package was lost). Hopefully, this would attract the attention of some of the developers to help you get a stable build for the device. However, I myself would be moving to the LeEco Le Max 2, as this is a Snapdragon device (an SD820 with 4GB DDR4 RAM and UFS2.0 storage and Sony camera) with its sources available for around the same price as the Redmi Note 4. ($220 vs $180).
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I got myself Redmi Note 4 16GB for only 100$ but several days later I also got a Xiaomi Mi 5 32GB deal for 200$, so RMN4 now is my spare phone and I use it for my experiment porting rom and building kernel source (if Xiaomi really decide to release kernel source code for their Mediatek phone).
Back to CM13 porting, it's not hard to booting up to home screen, I just used CM13 rom from Vernee Apollo Lite, replaced kernel and some files in system/lib/hw, system/lib64/hw, then it's booted. The problems I've seen in ADB log is SELinux return too much permission denied errors. Will try to fix it when I have time in next week :angel:
@longnt2007 any updates on CM13 porting? It will be so cool if works Thanks for that!
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@longnt2007 any updates on CM13 porting? It will be so cool if works Thanks for that!
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Atm all Wifi, RILD, sound, touchscreen, leds... working except fingerprint, because FPC 1020 in RMN4 connected with kernel via Trustonic TEE driver while fingerprint chip in Apollo Lite is different (ETS310) and not use TEE driver, so it's impossible to mix TEE driver with non Mediatek Trustonic rom (AOSP, CM13, AICP...)
Will release a test version of CM13 or AICP based from Apollo Lite in this weekend but I don't know if this XDA forum allow to post CM rom download link without source (already released AOSP rom on a facebook group for testing)...
While checking I found this URL -
which claims that Android 9.0 update has been rolled out to few test users in China (closed beta group) which indicates we may soon expect the Android 9 hitting a stable release in China followed by global release.
Highlight from GizChina article-
president of Huawei’s mobile phone product line, He Gang, revealed that Huawei Mate 10 Pro, Huawei P20, Honor 10, and Honor V10 models have simultaneously started Android 9 Pie beta testing. He further stated that Huawei’s engineers are already working hard to perfect the system.
According to Huawei’s pollen club’s announcement, the above-mentioned models pushed an internal test version to a small number of pollen users on August 6. The official internal testing recruitment activities for the majority of pollen users will commence as soon as the update is ready.
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According to Google, the new Android 9 Pie has two major upgrades. The first is its support for the recently popularized notch. In the developer mode, the Android 9 Pie system can simulate the notch and optimize the notification bar.
Secondly, the system efficiency is optimized which means that Android 9 Pie takes a shorter time to launch apps and the overall performance is better. At the same time, Android 9 Pie also displays the idle applications using the phone microphone, camera, and other sensors. The security of Android 9 Pie is better than the previous versions.
I found the similar article on GSM Arena: https://m.gsmarena.com/four_huawei_...ing_tested_with_android_90_pie-news-32670.php
I'm really satisfied with these news. Can't wait for the update, although it'll take a while. ?
Even 8.1 is not coming to our device...
Android 9.... by the time should already end of support of the 2 years firmware..
ciew said:
Even 8.1 is not coming to our device...
Android 9.... by the time should already end of support of the 2 years firmware..
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Maybe they'll skip 8.1 and go for 9.0 directly?
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ciew said:
Even 8.1 is not coming to our device...
Android 9.... by the time should already end of support of the 2 years firmware..
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Are you talking about EMUI or the actual version of Android?
The OP is speaking of Android Pie & I'm almost certain all Honor View 10's have been updated to Android 8.1........ Even if Huawei isn't tops in updates, I'd be surprised if this phone doesn't get Android 9.0.
I'd dare say we'll see it on this phone before any Samsung device, but, then again, that's not saying much, LOL....
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Are you talking about EMUI or the actual version of Android?
The OP is speaking of Android Pie & I'm almost certain all Honor View 10's have been updated to Android 8.1........ Even if Huawei isn't tops in updates, I'd be surprised if this phone doesn't get Android 9.0.
I'd dare say we'll see it on this phone before any Samsung device, but, then again, that's not saying much, LOL....
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The European Version of Honor view 10 is still on 8.0, on July Patch. Doesn't matter as im still on May patch because Huawei cant push out a ****ing patch to my phone for no god damn reason
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The European Version of Honor view 10 is still on 8.0, on July Patch. Doesn't matter as im still on May patch because Huawei cant push out a ****ing patch to my phone for no god damn reason
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Is that EMUI 8.0 or Android 8.0
Just asking because the version I have (BKL-L04) has EMUI 8.0,but,is on Android 8.1:
That's Android 8.1 but you have the AMERICAN MODEL, The European version doesn't have android 8.1,
Notice your model is t C567 but mine is c430 which is the Europe version
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That's Android 8.1 but you have the AMERICAN MODEL, The European version doesn't have android 8.1,
Notice your model is t C567 but mine is c430 which is the Europe version
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Yeah,I get that,was just checking that we were talking about the version of Android,not the version of EMUI.
I'm in agreement 100%,there is absolutely no reason for the fragmentation of Android versions on what is virtually the same exact phone.
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Yeah,I get that,was just checking that we were talking about the version of Android,not the version of EMUI.
I'm in agreement 100%,there is absolutely no reason for the fragmentation of Android versions on what is virtually the same exact phone.
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As far as Huawei / Honor is concerned, EMUI 8 has most changes found in Android 8.1 and also the Co. views the incremental updates as a major update. Their phones get two major Android updates and all phones released in 2018, whether with Android 8.0 or 8.1 would directly be updated to Android 9
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As far as Huawei / Honor is concerned, EMUI 8 has most changes found in Android 8.1 and also the Co. views the incremental updates as a major update. Their phones get two major Android updates and all phones released in 2018, whether with Android 8.0 or 8.1 would directly be updated to Android 9
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That may be true,but,it still doesn't explain why the European version is on Android 8.0 & the NA version is on Android 8.1.
It may not matter to you,but,right or wrong,it matters to the end user.
Why give the impression that Huawei values some regions over others,especially on the same device?
It leaves a bad taste in the mouth & may cause some current owners to look elsewhere for their next phone purchase.
Especially w/Huawei's recent climb in market share,it also gives the impression that they don't have to worry about how the end user thinks or feels about their phone.
Along w/the recent policy change regarding the bootloader unlock,those are two areas of great concern to perhaps a small,but,very vocal community of users.......just something to think about.....
While I'm satisfied w/my Honor View 10,I can state it's the last Huawei device I purchase,unless Huawei changes their stance on locked bootloaders................
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That may be true,but,it still doesn't explain why the European version is on Android 8.0 & the NA version is on Android 8.1.
It may not matter to you,but,right or wrong,it matters to the end user.
Why give the impression that Huawei values some regions over others,especially on the same device?
It leaves a bad taste in the mouth & may cause some current owners to look elsewhere for their next phone purchase.
Especially w/Huawei's recent climb in market share,it also gives the impression that they don't have to worry about how the end user thinks or feels about their phone.
Along w/the recent policy change regarding the bootloader unlock,those are two areas of great concern to perhaps a small,but,very vocal community of users.......just something to think about.....
While I'm satisfied w/my Honor View 10,I can state it's the last Huawei device I purchase,unless Huawei changes their stance on locked bootloaders................
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I get your point and I feel the same regarding the bootloader unlocking, but from Huawei's point of view, an unlocked bootloader just stands in their way of already rising security concerns of US and EU on Huawei. Regarding them releasing the same device with different android versions in different markets, it poses an issue only to a small group of people and I agree that it is wrong to other users, but we've been complaining about different regional firmware on Huawei devices since EMUI 4, but they have only turned a cold shoulder. A single international firmware (apart from their Chinese one) would help in faster software updates to all devices.
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I get your point and I feel the same regarding the bootloader unlocking, but from Huawei's point of view, an unlocked bootloader just stands in their way of already rising security concerns of US and EU on Huawei. Regarding them releasing the same device with different android versions in different markets, it poses an issue only to a small group of people and I agree that it is wrong to other users, but we've been complaining about different regional firmware on Huawei devices since EMUI 4, but they have only turned a cold shoulder. A single international firmware (apart from their Chinese one) would help in faster software updates to all devices.
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Your last statement is the head-scratcher(as to why there's not a universal Int'l firmware...................admittedly,Huawei isn't alone here,other mfgs are guilty of the same practice.
If the carriers are involved,as in the US,with their own bloat/etc....... I have to give 'em (Huawei & others) the benefit of the doubt.
If I could disable & re-enable Phone Manager at will w/o root,or,any other system apps (ADB allows for removal,but,a factory reset is needed to bring it back),I could forgo root on this phone.....
EMUI 4,I guess that goes back a ways,LOL,I had a long gap between Huawei Devices : OG Huawei Ascend m860 w/CM7 & some of the more current Huawei/Honor devices.
Have a great weekend! :good:
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Your last statement is the head-scratcher(as to why there's not a universal Int'l firmware...................admittedly,Huawei isn't alone here,other mfgs are guilty of the same practice.
If the carriers are involved,as in the US,with their own bloat/etc....... I have to give 'em (Huawei & others) the benefit of the doubt.
If I could disable & re-enable Phone Manager at will w/o root,or,any other system apps (ADB allows for removal,but,a factory reset is needed to bring it back),I could forgo root on this phone.....
EMUI 4,I guess that goes back a ways,LOL,I had a long gap between Huawei Devices : OG Huawei Ascend m860 w/CM7 & some of the more current Huawei/Honor devices.
Have a great weekend! :good:
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I really don't get Carrier based devices as the specific distribution channel really doesn't work well in Asian markets (I'm from India). I'd really wish if Huawei / Honor took the Oneplus route with a single firmware internationally. Oneplus beats Huawei / Honor in terms of software update reputation mainly because of their ease of updating their devices worldwide. I'd also like to get an android one version of Honor flagships. That'd be great, don't you think?
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I really don't get Carrier based devices as the specific distribution channel really doesn't work well in Asian markets (I'm from India). I'd really wish if Huawei / Honor took the Oneplus route with a single firmware internationally. Oneplus beats Huawei / Honor in terms of software update reputation mainly because of their ease of updating their devices worldwide. I'd also like to get an android one version of Honor flagships. That'd be great, don't you think?
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Now you're talkin', I'd get an Android One Huawei device, with or without root.
I had the Xiaomi Mi A1, that was a nice phone, especially at the price point. :good:
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I found the similar article on GSM Arena: https://m.gsmarena.com/four_huawei_...ing_tested_with_android_90_pie-news-32670.php
I'm really satisfied with these news. Can't wait for the update, although it'll take a while. ?
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Yeah but unfortunately i can't unlock bootloader and debrand to China to use Pie early and will have to wait for update to release for other regions
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Are you talking about EMUI or the actual version of Android?
The OP is speaking of Android Pie & I'm almost certain all Honor View 10's have been updated to Android 8.1........ Even if Huawei isn't tops in updates, I'd be surprised if this phone doesn't get Android 9.0.
I'd dare say we'll see it on this phone before any Samsung device, but, then again, that's not saying much, LOL....
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Only US on EMUI/android 8.1 (haven't heard of China yet) but others are still on 8.0
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Is that EMUI 8.0 or Android 8.0
Just asking because the version I have (BKL-L04) has EMUI 8.0,but,is on Android 8.1:
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US model was released late directly with 8.1
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I get your point and I feel the same regarding the bootloader unlocking, but from Huawei's point of view, an unlocked bootloader just stands in their way of already rising security concerns of US and EU on Huawei.
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I wonder why you and other people thinks bootloader unlocking has something to do with the US and EU security concerns, when it should be the other way around.
If you think about it, it's the other way around, meaning that with an unlockable bootloader, security researchers, NSA, CIA, you name it, could investigate on what's happening under the hood, while with a locked bootloader all this it's very hard to crack.
US was never concerned about Huawei devices being easy to crack because their bootloader can be unlocked, but their concerns were about China spying on US citizens, government, etc. Same goes with EU.
What would help Huawei, is open sourcing their chipset, being more transparent to the eye of the security researchers and developers, not closing their system even more.
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Only US on EMUI/android 8.1 (haven't heard of China yet) but others are still on 8.0
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Your comment hammers home my point,the phone was released elsewhere 1st & stands to reason that earlier adopters would have 8.1 before the newer regions.
The explanation given earlier ,that the latest EMUI has all the features of Android 8.1,regardless of which version of Android you're running,is illogical.
If that's the case,then why would Huawei bother with an updated version of Android on one region & not others.
It's crazy,so,that is why one with a model running Android 8.1 would make the assumption the other regions are on the same version......
Yes,I'm sure it's been discussed here in other threads & I've missed that discrepancy,obviously,until now.
I have no complaints w/the phone,one of the best overall I've owned,especially with the price of admission,so,I haven't had the need to read every thread & response.......
As you know, we saw Samsung's working on Android Pie for A5 2017 at the end of 2018. And now, they're working on A7 2017. First of all I didn't think they will release 3rd major update for them because of Samsung's update politics. Maybe they want to change that. If they do, this series is gonna be the FIRST Samsung phone models to get 3rd major update. What do you think about that? Is it possible? If it's possible, would you like S7 to get the Pie update too?
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I saw it too, but can't this also be a device with an android 9 custom rom (like lineage)?
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I saw it too, but can't this also be a device with an android 9 custom rom (like lineage)?
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Yes, this is 100% an unofficial Pie rom, probably with passed safetynet.
It is confirmed that the Galaxy A3, A5 and A7 2017 will receive the Android Pie 9.0 update.
I'm attaching a screenshot of the news with some of the eligible models. You can read the news on the Samsung Members app.
@rashisp
Don't trust this list. We can see here Galaxy J7 (2016), which has 3(!) major updates yet (It was released on Android 5.1.1 and got Android 6.0.1-7.0-8.0.0). Android Pie will the 4 update. But, who knows, I think it because it based on Exynos 7870, which Samsung likes to use on their low-end devices. I hope Samsung will roll out Pie for A-Series 2017. At least, for A3, because it based on Exynos 7870 too.
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@rashisp
Don't trust this list. We can see here Galaxy J7 (2016), which has 3(!) major updates yet (It was released on Android 5.1.1 and got Android 6.0.1-7.0-8.0.0). Android Pie will the 4 update. But, who knows, I think it because it based on Exynos 7870, which Samsung likes to use on their low-end devices. I hope Samsung will roll out Pie for A-Series 2017. At least, for A3, because it based on Exynos 7870 too.
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Sorry, but how can I not trust Samsung's statement in their official Members app? I know Samsung hasn't been good updating lower-end devices, giving only two major updates; but they haven't given any false promises either (saying they will update a device and then cancel said update) as far as I know.
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Sorry, but how can I not trust Samsung's statement in their official Members app? I know Samsung hasn't been good updating lower-end devices, giving only two major updates; but they haven't given any false promises either (saying they will update a device and then cancel said update) as far as I know.
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I think Samsung's being a little sneaky here. They only say that the devices are eligible. That doesn't mean that they will 100% get the update, only that it's possible.
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It is confirmed that the Galaxy A3, A5 and A7 2017 will receive the Android Pie 9.0 update.
I'm attaching a screenshot of the news with some of the eligible models. You can read the news on the Samsung Members app.
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how come i get completely differed devices and dates .. and a-series 2017 isnt a part of my list...
Ohoh
A7 2017 will receive android pie update in korea
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A7 2017 will receive android pie update in korea
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Source ?
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Source ?
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korea samsungmembers community
""""https://community.samsungmembers.com/ko_KR/search_post?categoryId=10010&postId=481045""""
Well if it its true than probably even a5 2017 will get it...
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Here is the list I found.
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Here is the list I found.
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This seems the correct list. Thanks :good:
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Here is the list I found.
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Maybe they will add eligible models more. Nothing has confirmed for now
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Maybe they will add eligible models more. Nothing has confirmed for now
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Well, it came straight from Samsung so it must be pretty accurate. So don't count on getting pie officially.
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Well, it came straight from Samsung so it must be pretty accurate. So don't count on getting pie officially.
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You're right but I meant it might be something. I think there's a little chance. Let's hope Samsung makes a surprise for us
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You're right but I meant it might be something. I think there's a little chance. Let's hope Samsung makes a surprise for us
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Yes, hopefully!
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It is confirmed that the Galaxy A3, A5 and A7 2017 will receive the Android Pie 9.0 update.
I'm attaching a screenshot of the news with some of the eligible models. You can read the news on the Samsung Members app.
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Wow that's good news! :good:
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Wow that's good news! :good:
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Hello everyone
I made this thread to discuss if Note 8 is going to have the Android 10 Update whether officially or unofficially.
OfficiallySamsung has updated its update policy so that devices should get 3 major updates, but this updated was made after the Note 8 was released. so this may not be the case with our Note 8.
After some search I found a post on MSPoweruser, you can check the post yourself, that the S8 is planned to have the Android 10 officially, and this was said by the Samsung customer service agent.
The Samsung agent said:
Good day Herr Garde,
Thank you for contacting us to the Samsung customer service. Regarding your request for Android 10 I like to inform you. Do not worry. It is planned that also the S8 the android 10 update should get. When this Exactly, I can give you now do not say yet. Therefore I ask you still a little patience. If you have a concern again have, please feel free to contact us!
UnofficiallyI did find a lot of S9 Plus port roms for Note 8 on Android 8.0 and Android 9.0 so is it possible to have an S9 or S10 with Android 10 ported to our Note 8 devices?
Join the conversationI have created a Telegram group to discuss any thing about our beloved Note 8 and share the latest news easily so if you're interested you're welcomed to join the group via this link : https://t.me/Exy8895Chat
If you have any suggestions or any news please tell me
I personally don't think it is likely. And no one should pin their hopes on getting official Android 10.
Rumours are just rumours.
Me feeling we deserve it is a different matter though ?.
I have a S8+, but yeah a thing that it's probable is a S9/S10 ROM port (highly more possible S9/S9+/N9 since it's more similar to the S8/S8+/N8 than the 10 lines), for example S7 have OneUI ported (Android 9.0) with a NFE Port, and it's the same team that ported S9 roms to S8/S8+/N8 (LightExyKings).
Now, when? probably not soon, the devs have to do their things too so I guess it will take some time to make these ports, if, they're possible in the 1st place, we just have to wait sadly
stonedpsycho said:
I personally don't think it is likely. And no one should pin their hopes on getting official Android 10.
Rumours are just rumours.
Me feeling we deserve it is a different matter though .
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Yeah actually I don't we would get this update officially cuz Samsung never do
But as you said we really do deserve this update specially after giving back our trust in the Note series after what happened in the batteries and so on...
panchovix said:
I have a S8+, but yeah a thing that it's probable is a S9/S10 ROM port (highly more possible S9/S9+/N9 since it's more similar to the S8/S8+/N8 than the 10 lines), for example S7 have OneUI ported (Android 9.0) with a NFE Port, and it's the same team that ported S9 roms to S8/S8+/N8 (LightExyKings).
Now, when? probably not soon, the devs have to do their things too so I guess it will take some time to make these ports, if, they're possible in the 1st place, we just have to wait sadly
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I made this thread at the first place to get the attention of people who would really love to have the Android 10 update so devs can start porting to our Note 8, unfortunately this means we will have to root our devices and I'm a big fan of Samsung Pass and other Knox based apps which gonna stop once you root. I hope the update is worth it and the also comes out without bugs.
Yeah, it will properly be a S9 port due to its similarities with our devices hardware but it will be very good to have a S10 port tho.
Kinglos said:
I made this thread at the first place to get the attention of people who would really love to have the Android 10 update so devs can start porting to our Note 8, unfortunately this means we will have to root our devices and I'm a big fan of Samsung Pass and other Knox based apps which gonna stop once you root. I hope the update is worth it and the also comes out without bugs.
Yeah, it will properly be a S9 port due to its similarities with our devices hardware but it will be very good to have a S10 port tho.
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Yeah, in my case since I've never S.Pay or S.Pass it didn't affect me much unlocking bootloader and such, since well all the other knox based apps works (S. Folder, S. Health, etc), but for example after the sec patch ends for the S8/N8 Line (aka 2020), the only way to maybe, taste Android 10 or OneUI 2 (if it gets ported), will be via unlocking bootloader, TWRP and etc
The worst thing here is that Samsung drops the support of a phone that was, and even now it's still expensive as new, with just 2 years of support of updates and 3 years of sec updates, meanwhile the iPhone 7/7+ that was the competitor of the S8/N8 and it was released earlier, will get updated to iOS 14, 15 and possibly 16, aka support until 2023...
Really let's hope some devs can port a ROM haha
EDIT: to add that even Note 8 users got it worse since it was released when Oreo was already available, but Samsung still released it with Nougat and only updating it until Pie
Kinglos said:
I made this thread at the first place to get the attention of people who would really love to have the Android 10 update so devs can start porting to our Note 8, unfortunately this means we will have to root our devices and I'm a big fan of Samsung Pass and other Knox based apps which gonna stop once you root. I hope the update is worth it and the also comes out without bugs.
Yeah, it will properly be a S9 port due to its similarities with our devices hardware but it will be very good to have a S10 port tho.
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I don't really know how porting roms works but I think even that's not possible because s9 has different chipset so therefore it isn't compatible.
As far as i know there aren't any other devices with exynos 8895 apart from s8/s8+/N8.
https://www.deskmodder.de/blog/2019/12/02/samsung-galaxy-android-10-veroeffentlichung-der-zeitplan/
Goodbye Samsung, Hello OnePlus!
Bye samsung, on the lookout for other android phones now.
Gent' said:
I don't really know how porting roms works but I think even that's not possible because s9 has different chipset so therefore it isn't compatible.
As far as i know there aren't any other devices with exynos 8895 apart from s8/s8+/N8.
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Take it as a Custom ROM, probably if they manage to port it, it will have bugs like non-stock based custom ROMs at first
Anyways, the most probably thing is newer LineageOS (Like LOS 17, 18 for Android 11.0, etc), but not OneUI 2.0, 3.0, etc ported sadly
S7 had it easier since it had the same chip that NFE that got Pie, but if you search a little in the S6 xda forum, they managed to port a OneUI ROM from Note 8, but it has various bugs, like no HwC, etc
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Yeah, in my case since I've never S.Pay or S.Pass it didn't affect me much unlocking bootloader and such, since well all the other knox based apps works (S. Folder, S. Health, etc), but for example after the sec patch ends for the S8/N8 Line (aka 2020), the only way to maybe, taste Android 10 or OneUI 2 (if it gets ported), will be via unlocking bootloader, TWRP and etc
The worst thing here is that Samsung drops the support of a phone that was, and even now it's still expensive as new, with just 2 years of support of updates and 3 years of sec updates, meanwhile the iPhone 7/7+ that was the competitor of the S8/N8 and it was released earlier, will get updated to iOS 14, 15 and possibly 16, aka support until 2023...
Really let's hope some devs can port a ROM haha
EDIT: to add that even Note 8 users got it worse since it was released when Oreo was already available, but Samsung still released it with Nougat and only updating it until Pie
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For me as a Samsung user and all my devices are Samsung products (Note 1, S3, Note 5, Note 8, Gear S3, etc.) I always liked how Samsung had new futures before other companies but I think this have changed after they are giving us 2 years of updates ( on the update policy) and actually only 1 year of updates in real life as you said Android 8 was already available and released before the Note 8 was but they decided to release it with Android 7 instead which is 1 year update to One UI 1. They also almost did the same thing with the Note 10 as it was released with Android 9 while Android 10 is available. One the other hand Apple have been supporting the iPhone 5s till the last year with updates with is actually good for a phone thats 5 years old and its battery is getting bad aka its performance where you really need to upgrade to new phone at this point. I really hope Samsung learns before they lose customers and I really hope more to get they Android 10 update without losing much specially Spass cuz I do really love this device, it has a good Design and performance and mine is still new to upgrade now...
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I don't really know how porting roms works but I think even that's not possible because s9 has different chipset so therefore it isn't compatible.
As far as i know there aren't any other devices with exynos 8895 apart from s8/s8+/N8.
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I think they would be able to port it from S9 but its never gonna be stable or even close the an official rom.
I think we would see a LineageOS 17 or 18 also but this doesn't solve the One Ui cuz its hard to port. (its not that stable and we will miss some futures from Samsung) if I'm gonna have a stock Android running on my Galaxy I would go rather and buy me a Google pixel or One plus better at least its gonna be more stable as its official and we are gonna have the updates way more faster.
B.Black said:
https://www.deskmodder.de/blog/2019/12/02/samsung-galaxy-android-10-veroeffentlichung-der-zeitplan/
Goodbye Samsung, Hello OnePlus!
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They have good and premium phones that gets the updates fast and for long.
panchovix said:
Take it as a Custom ROM, probably if they manage to port it, it will have bugs like non-stock based custom ROMs at first
Anyways, the most probably thing is newer LineageOS (Like LOS 17, 18 for Android 11.0, etc), but not OneUI 2.0, 3.0, etc ported sadly
S7 had it easier since it had the same chip that NFE that got Pie, but if you search a little in the S6 xda forum, they managed to port a OneUI ROM from Note 8, but it has various bugs, like no HwC, etc
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They will never port a stable version or at least close to an official rom due to the hardware incomparable-ties which will probable give us the choice to continue using is with One UI 1 or use the ported rom and get used to these bugs or upgrade or phone which Samsung wants us todo but if I'm gonna do this I'm gonna find a company like OnePlus or Apple cuz I'm not gonna do the same thing again with a S10 or Note 10 after they don't update it...
The S7 was actually easier cuz of the Note FE which is actually the Note 7 and remember Samsung always make the S and Note the same Chip set each year like the S8 and N8, S9 and N9. but as the Note FE was late it got its update Support father than the S7 (which is capable of running Android 10 One UI 2 until now but Samsung doesn't want to update it as well).
Android Q/10 will be ported quite soon but neither N8 nor S8 will see original firmware from Samsung.
They will be able to bring the functionality of the S pen
there's no android 10 official rom for s8 and note8 by samsung schedule.....(crying~~)
Apparently the will not do an update to 10 for the S8 and Note 8.
https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-indirectly-confirms-galaxy-s8-galaxy-note-8-wont-get-android-10-update
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Kinglos said:
Yeah actually I don't we would get this update officially cuz Samsung never do
But as you said we really do deserve this update specially after giving back our trust in the Note series after what happened in the batteries and so on...
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hello
please refer to below web page and copy and paste below information
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Note8/S8-and-Note-8-deserve-Android-10/td-p/999597
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*we are eagerly waiting for the third software update(ANDROID 10) for our lovely GALAXY NOTE 8.It has nothing short of 2019 flagships*
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anderson0502 said:
there's no android 10 official rom for s8 and note8 by samsung schedule.....(crying~~)
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please refer to below web page and copy and paste the below information
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*we are eagerly waiting for the third software update(ANDROID 10) for our lovely GALAXY NOTE 8.It has nothing short of 2019 flagships*