[Discussion] Android 10 - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Guides, News, & Discussion

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Hello everyone
I made this thread to discuss if Note 8 is going to have the Android 10 Update whether officially or unofficially.
Officially​Samsung has updated its update policy so that devices should get 3 major updates, but this updated was made after the Note 8 was released. so this may not be the case with our Note 8.
After some search I found a post on MSPoweruser, you can check the post yourself, that the S8 is planned to have the Android 10 officially, and this was said by the Samsung customer service agent.
The Samsung agent said:
Good day Herr Garde,
Thank you for contacting us to the Samsung customer service. Regarding your request for Android 10 I like to inform you. Do not worry. It is planned that also the S8 the android 10 update should get. When this Exactly, I can give you now do not say yet. Therefore I ask you still a little patience. If you have a concern again have, please feel free to contact us!
Unofficially​I did find a lot of S9 Plus port roms for Note 8 on Android 8.0 and Android 9.0 so is it possible to have an S9 or S10 with Android 10 ported to our Note 8 devices?
Join the conversation​I have created a Telegram group to discuss any thing about our beloved Note 8 and share the latest news easily so if you're interested you're welcomed to join the group via this link : https://t.me/Exy8895Chat
If you have any suggestions or any news please tell me​

I personally don't think it is likely. And no one should pin their hopes on getting official Android 10.
Rumours are just rumours.
Me feeling we deserve it is a different matter though ?.

I have a S8+, but yeah a thing that it's probable is a S9/S10 ROM port (highly more possible S9/S9+/N9 since it's more similar to the S8/S8+/N8 than the 10 lines), for example S7 have OneUI ported (Android 9.0) with a NFE Port, and it's the same team that ported S9 roms to S8/S8+/N8 (LightExyKings).
Now, when? probably not soon, the devs have to do their things too so I guess it will take some time to make these ports, if, they're possible in the 1st place, we just have to wait sadly

stonedpsycho said:
I personally don't think it is likely. And no one should pin their hopes on getting official Android 10.
Rumours are just rumours.
Me feeling we deserve it is a different matter though .
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Yeah actually I don't we would get this update officially cuz Samsung never do
But as you said we really do deserve this update specially after giving back our trust in the Note series after what happened in the batteries and so on...

panchovix said:
I have a S8+, but yeah a thing that it's probable is a S9/S10 ROM port (highly more possible S9/S9+/N9 since it's more similar to the S8/S8+/N8 than the 10 lines), for example S7 have OneUI ported (Android 9.0) with a NFE Port, and it's the same team that ported S9 roms to S8/S8+/N8 (LightExyKings).
Now, when? probably not soon, the devs have to do their things too so I guess it will take some time to make these ports, if, they're possible in the 1st place, we just have to wait sadly
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I made this thread at the first place to get the attention of people who would really love to have the Android 10 update so devs can start porting to our Note 8, unfortunately this means we will have to root our devices and I'm a big fan of Samsung Pass and other Knox based apps which gonna stop once you root. I hope the update is worth it and the also comes out without bugs.
Yeah, it will properly be a S9 port due to its similarities with our devices hardware but it will be very good to have a S10 port tho.

Kinglos said:
I made this thread at the first place to get the attention of people who would really love to have the Android 10 update so devs can start porting to our Note 8, unfortunately this means we will have to root our devices and I'm a big fan of Samsung Pass and other Knox based apps which gonna stop once you root. I hope the update is worth it and the also comes out without bugs.
Yeah, it will properly be a S9 port due to its similarities with our devices hardware but it will be very good to have a S10 port tho.
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Yeah, in my case since I've never S.Pay or S.Pass it didn't affect me much unlocking bootloader and such, since well all the other knox based apps works (S. Folder, S. Health, etc), but for example after the sec patch ends for the S8/N8 Line (aka 2020), the only way to maybe, taste Android 10 or OneUI 2 (if it gets ported), will be via unlocking bootloader, TWRP and etc
The worst thing here is that Samsung drops the support of a phone that was, and even now it's still expensive as new, with just 2 years of support of updates and 3 years of sec updates, meanwhile the iPhone 7/7+ that was the competitor of the S8/N8 and it was released earlier, will get updated to iOS 14, 15 and possibly 16, aka support until 2023...
Really let's hope some devs can port a ROM haha
EDIT: to add that even Note 8 users got it worse since it was released when Oreo was already available, but Samsung still released it with Nougat and only updating it until Pie

Kinglos said:
I made this thread at the first place to get the attention of people who would really love to have the Android 10 update so devs can start porting to our Note 8, unfortunately this means we will have to root our devices and I'm a big fan of Samsung Pass and other Knox based apps which gonna stop once you root. I hope the update is worth it and the also comes out without bugs.
Yeah, it will properly be a S9 port due to its similarities with our devices hardware but it will be very good to have a S10 port tho.
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I don't really know how porting roms works but I think even that's not possible because s9 has different chipset so therefore it isn't compatible.
As far as i know there aren't any other devices with exynos 8895 apart from s8/s8+/N8.

https://www.deskmodder.de/blog/2019/12/02/samsung-galaxy-android-10-veroeffentlichung-der-zeitplan/
Goodbye Samsung, Hello OnePlus!

Bye samsung, on the lookout for other android phones now.

Gent' said:
I don't really know how porting roms works but I think even that's not possible because s9 has different chipset so therefore it isn't compatible.
As far as i know there aren't any other devices with exynos 8895 apart from s8/s8+/N8.
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Take it as a Custom ROM, probably if they manage to port it, it will have bugs like non-stock based custom ROMs at first
Anyways, the most probably thing is newer LineageOS (Like LOS 17, 18 for Android 11.0, etc), but not OneUI 2.0, 3.0, etc ported sadly
S7 had it easier since it had the same chip that NFE that got Pie, but if you search a little in the S6 xda forum, they managed to port a OneUI ROM from Note 8, but it has various bugs, like no HwC, etc

panchovix said:
Yeah, in my case since I've never S.Pay or S.Pass it didn't affect me much unlocking bootloader and such, since well all the other knox based apps works (S. Folder, S. Health, etc), but for example after the sec patch ends for the S8/N8 Line (aka 2020), the only way to maybe, taste Android 10 or OneUI 2 (if it gets ported), will be via unlocking bootloader, TWRP and etc
The worst thing here is that Samsung drops the support of a phone that was, and even now it's still expensive as new, with just 2 years of support of updates and 3 years of sec updates, meanwhile the iPhone 7/7+ that was the competitor of the S8/N8 and it was released earlier, will get updated to iOS 14, 15 and possibly 16, aka support until 2023...
Really let's hope some devs can port a ROM haha
EDIT: to add that even Note 8 users got it worse since it was released when Oreo was already available, but Samsung still released it with Nougat and only updating it until Pie
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For me as a Samsung user and all my devices are Samsung products (Note 1, S3, Note 5, Note 8, Gear S3, etc.) I always liked how Samsung had new futures before other companies but I think this have changed after they are giving us 2 years of updates ( on the update policy) and actually only 1 year of updates in real life as you said Android 8 was already available and released before the Note 8 was but they decided to release it with Android 7 instead which is 1 year update to One UI 1. They also almost did the same thing with the Note 10 as it was released with Android 9 while Android 10 is available. One the other hand Apple have been supporting the iPhone 5s till the last year with updates with is actually good for a phone thats 5 years old and its battery is getting bad aka its performance where you really need to upgrade to new phone at this point. I really hope Samsung learns before they lose customers and I really hope more to get they Android 10 update without losing much specially Spass cuz I do really love this device, it has a good Design and performance and mine is still new to upgrade now...

Gent' said:
I don't really know how porting roms works but I think even that's not possible because s9 has different chipset so therefore it isn't compatible.
As far as i know there aren't any other devices with exynos 8895 apart from s8/s8+/N8.
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I think they would be able to port it from S9 but its never gonna be stable or even close the an official rom.
I think we would see a LineageOS 17 or 18 also but this doesn't solve the One Ui cuz its hard to port. (its not that stable and we will miss some futures from Samsung) if I'm gonna have a stock Android running on my Galaxy I would go rather and buy me a Google pixel or One plus better at least its gonna be more stable as its official and we are gonna have the updates way more faster.

B.Black said:
https://www.deskmodder.de/blog/2019/12/02/samsung-galaxy-android-10-veroeffentlichung-der-zeitplan/
Goodbye Samsung, Hello OnePlus!
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They have good and premium phones that gets the updates fast and for long.

panchovix said:
Take it as a Custom ROM, probably if they manage to port it, it will have bugs like non-stock based custom ROMs at first
Anyways, the most probably thing is newer LineageOS (Like LOS 17, 18 for Android 11.0, etc), but not OneUI 2.0, 3.0, etc ported sadly
S7 had it easier since it had the same chip that NFE that got Pie, but if you search a little in the S6 xda forum, they managed to port a OneUI ROM from Note 8, but it has various bugs, like no HwC, etc
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They will never port a stable version or at least close to an official rom due to the hardware incomparable-ties which will probable give us the choice to continue using is with One UI 1 or use the ported rom and get used to these bugs or upgrade or phone which Samsung wants us todo but if I'm gonna do this I'm gonna find a company like OnePlus or Apple cuz I'm not gonna do the same thing again with a S10 or Note 10 after they don't update it...
The S7 was actually easier cuz of the Note FE which is actually the Note 7 and remember Samsung always make the S and Note the same Chip set each year like the S8 and N8, S9 and N9. but as the Note FE was late it got its update Support father than the S7 (which is capable of running Android 10 One UI 2 until now but Samsung doesn't want to update it as well).

Android Q/10 will be ported quite soon but neither N8 nor S8 will see original firmware from Samsung.

They will be able to bring the functionality of the S pen

there's no android 10 official rom for s8 and note8 by samsung schedule.....(crying~~)

Apparently the will not do an update to 10 for the S8 and Note 8.
https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-indirectly-confirms-galaxy-s8-galaxy-note-8-wont-get-android-10-update

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Kinglos said:
Yeah actually I don't we would get this update officially cuz Samsung never do
But as you said we really do deserve this update specially after giving back our trust in the Note series after what happened in the batteries and so on...
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hello
please refer to below web page and copy and paste below information
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Note8/S8-and-Note-8-deserve-Android-10/td-p/999597
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*we are eagerly waiting for the third software update(ANDROID 10) for our lovely GALAXY NOTE 8.It has nothing short of 2019 flagships*

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anderson0502 said:
there's no android 10 official rom for s8 and note8 by samsung schedule.....(crying~~)
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hello
please refer to below web page and copy and paste the below information
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Note8/S8-and-Note-8-deserve-Android-10/td-p/999597
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*we are eagerly waiting for the third software update(ANDROID 10) for our lovely GALAXY NOTE 8.It has nothing short of 2019 flagships*

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Cyanogenmod for Xiaomi Redmi Note 4?

Hi all!
I just received my brand new Redmi Note 4.
Is there any plan for having a brilliant Cyanogenmod on it? :silly:
Thanks and cheers,
Simone
slongoni said:
Hi all!
I just received my brand new Redmi Note 4.
Is there any plan for having a brilliant Cyanogenmod on it? :silly:
Thanks and cheers,
Simone
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If that Note 4 has the Snapdragon CPU then I'm sure there will be CM for it, but I think yours has the MediaKEK
Yes mdk X20 helio....
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I think it's quite possible, thanks to the Vernee Apollo Lite that has almost identical hardware (SOC and camera) and an open source AOSP ROM. It should be possible to port that to the Redmi Note 4, and build CyanogenMod based on its source. If a Snapdragon Redmi Note 4 is released, some of the proprietary blobs can be merged if its source code is released.
xdadevet said:
I think it's quite possible, thanks to the Vernee Apollo Lite that has almost identical hardware (SOC and camera) and an open source AOSP ROM. It should be possible to port that to the Redmi Note 4, and build CyanogenMod based on its source. If a Snapdragon Redmi Note 4 is released, some of the proprietary blobs can be merged if its source code is released.
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Is it really possible to port the rom of vernee apollo to rn4!?!?
I wanna help if there is any existing development project.
PETEroid said:
Is it really possible to port the rom of vernee apollo to rn4!?!?
I wanna help if there is any existing development project.
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To some extent, yes. But there are still Xiaomi specific drivers and source code that they either have to release or has to be patched together (usually happens if a device is popular). Considering how popular the Redmi Note 3 Pro is and how beautiful the Redmi Note 4 is, I think we just have to wait a little. Most developers that shop in that price range is still rather going to go for the Redmi Note 3 Pro though.
I had Redmi Note 3 Pro 32GB before (bought for $220 from an unofficial distributor, now it's $175), but it was stolen from me. Earlier this year Xiaomi launched the Redmi Note 3 Pro officially in Indonesia. Unfortunately the Note 3 Pro has the 4G LTE disabled by Xiaomi if the phone detects an Indonesian SIM card inserted (it had to do with Indonesian regulations that required 40% of the material of a 4G LTE enabled phones to be sourced locally, else they won't be allowed to sell it here officially).
So when it's time to buy a new phone, I decided to go for the similarly priced Redmi Note 4 with 64GB of storage for only $195, to save me the hassle of unlocking, creating a modified boot.img, flashing TWRP, rooting, replacing the TeleService.apk and repeating the whole god-damned process every time there's a MIUI update. So, not everybody would go for the Redmi 3 Pro vs the Note 4.
Overall, I enjoy this new phone: the superior build quality, double-tap-to-wake function, and the faster fingerprint sensor. What would make this phone even better if there's an official CyanogenMod build for it. But I guess it will never happens. Oh well, I'll just buy a Mi5 or Mi Mix next year.
I wouldn't buy Xiaomi or Redmi, unless, there is a CM for the variant. Without CM, I personally think it is a piece of crap whatsoever. =P
MIUI is so much over-bloated. Looking forward to seeing one CM build. My colleague just bought one and is expecting to get it this afternoon as we speak.
Hopefully CM will be out some time in November~~~He was so impressed by my Redmi 3 pro's performance, lol
xstormli said:
I wouldn't buy Xiaomi or Redmi, unless, there is a CM for the variant. Without CM, I personally think it is a piece of crap whatsoever. =P
MIUI is so much over-bloated. Looking forward to seeing one CM build. My colleague just bought one and is expecting to get it this afternoon as we speak.
Hopefully CM will be out some time in November~~~He was so impressed by my Redmi 3 pro's performance, lol
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But that's your opinion. Maybe, there will be CM. Still, the phone is cheap, and it has decent specs. I'm just fine with RM 4.
ekin_strops said:
But that's your opinion. Maybe, there will be CM. Still, the phone is cheap, and it has decent specs. I'm just fine with RM 4.
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I just saw my colleague's RMN4 last night, quite impressive with the color, instantly caught my eyes. It is definitely a good deal. CM on it would make it even smoother & sweeter. I am thinking to get one also for myself when CM is out.
xstormli said:
I wouldn't buy Xiaomi or Redmi, unless, there is a CM for the variant. Without CM, I personally think it is a piece of crap whatsoever. =P
MIUI is so much over-bloated. Looking forward to seeing one CM build. My colleague just bought one and is expecting to get it this afternoon as we speak.
Hopefully CM will be out some time in November~~~He was so impressed by my Redmi 3 pro's performance, lol
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While MIUI is definitely an "acquired taste" I don't think it's that bad. There are a lot of features I would otherwise struggle to get working properly on an AOSP based ROM, and I'd still rather use it than almost any other mainstream OEM ROM. My mine gripe with it is its aggressive memory management, terrible task switcher, and disjointed settings menu. At least it's fluid and decent looking, and the built-in theming is one of the better implementations. I would say it actually adds lots of value to most of their customers and my friends whose Xiaomi phones I rooted prefer the EU MIUI ROM to CM.
xdadevet said:
I think it's quite possible, thanks to the Vernee Apollo Lite that has almost identical hardware (SOC and camera) and an open source AOSP ROM. It should be possible to port that to the Redmi Note 4, and build CyanogenMod based on its source. If a Snapdragon Redmi Note 4 is released, some of the proprietary blobs can be merged if its source code is released.
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Last night I've tried to port CM13 from Vernee Apollp Lite to RMN4. It's successfully booted to Home screen but a lots strange bugs I never seen before (can't touch after phone go to sleep, Wifi can't connect to any WPA network...)
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longnt2007 said:
Last night I've tried to port CM13 from Vernee Apollp Lite to RMN4. It's successfully booted to Home screen but a lots strange bugs I never seen before (can't touch after phone go to sleep, Wifi can't connect to any WPA network...)
pic: (sorry because I'm not have 10 posts to post image :crying
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Good work it's a start and huge progress to even get it booting.
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longnt2007 said:
Last night I've tried to port CM13 from Vernee Apollp Lite to RMN4. It's successfully booted to Home screen but a lots strange bugs I never seen before (can't touch after phone go to sleep, Wifi can't connect to any WPA network...)
pic: (sorry because I'm not have 10 posts to post image :crying
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:good::good::good::good:
Perfect! Thank you. Did you have device tree? You can upload and post here the link of your firmware?
Nice to see someone trying to port CM to RN4.
longnt2007 said:
Last night I've tried to port CM13 from Vernee Apollp Lite to RMN4. It's successfully booted to Home screen but a lots strange bugs I never seen before (can't touch after phone go to sleep, Wifi can't connect to any WPA network...)
pic: (sorry because I'm not have 10 posts to post image :crying
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Thanks for following up on that message of mine (glad to see it worked, good job getting it to boot). The Redmi Note 4s I ordered are yet to come (first package was lost). Hopefully, this would attract the attention of some of the developers to help you get a stable build for the device. However, I myself would be moving to the LeEco Le Max 2, as this is a Snapdragon device (an SD820 with 4GB DDR4 RAM and UFS2.0 storage and Sony camera) with its sources available for around the same price as the Redmi Note 4. ($220 vs $180).
xdadevet said:
Thanks for following up on that message of mine (glad to see it worked, good job getting it to boot). The Redmi Note 4s I ordered are yet to come (first package was lost). Hopefully, this would attract the attention of some of the developers to help you get a stable build for the device. However, I myself would be moving to the LeEco Le Max 2, as this is a Snapdragon device (an SD820 with 4GB DDR4 RAM and UFS2.0 storage and Sony camera) with its sources available for around the same price as the Redmi Note 4. ($220 vs $180).
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I got myself Redmi Note 4 16GB for only 100$ but several days later I also got a Xiaomi Mi 5 32GB deal for 200$, so RMN4 now is my spare phone and I use it for my experiment porting rom and building kernel source (if Xiaomi really decide to release kernel source code for their Mediatek phone).
Back to CM13 porting, it's not hard to booting up to home screen, I just used CM13 rom from Vernee Apollo Lite, replaced kernel and some files in system/lib/hw, system/lib64/hw, then it's booted. The problems I've seen in ADB log is SELinux return too much permission denied errors. Will try to fix it when I have time in next week :angel:
@longnt2007 any updates on CM13 porting? It will be so cool if works Thanks for that!
prismk said:
@longnt2007 any updates on CM13 porting? It will be so cool if works Thanks for that!
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Atm all Wifi, RILD, sound, touchscreen, leds... working except fingerprint, because FPC 1020 in RMN4 connected with kernel via Trustonic TEE driver while fingerprint chip in Apollo Lite is different (ETS310) and not use TEE driver, so it's impossible to mix TEE driver with non Mediatek Trustonic rom (AOSP, CM13, AICP...)
Will release a test version of CM13 or AICP based from Apollo Lite in this weekend but I don't know if this XDA forum allow to post CM rom download link without source (already released AOSP rom on a facebook group for testing)...

HARD GAMER please I need your help.

I've been stucking here on Nougat and fails to move on to Oreo. I don't know I just think that Nougat is better in term of performance and stability for gaming. But now, you know, all the threads and developers giving all their loves for Oreo. So maybe this is my time to move.
So, please all hard gamers. In your experience. I need your setup badly for which Oreo rom should I flash. The most minimal and only essential customizations but very good performance n gaming, and please tell me which kernel you've been using for gaming. I really need it badly. Gaming is life. Please.
FYI I play Vainglory, FreeFire or ROS. Thank you so much.
Since there are no Oreo blobs for the Redmi Note 4 from Xiaomi (the Redmi Note 4 has yet to get the MIUI Oreo update and Xiaomi won't release sources for it until it does), kernels are pretty useless, IMO. Just stick with Nougat. It has sources so kernels for it are a whole lot more useful.
sk8223 said:
Since there are no Oreo blobs for the Redmi Note 4 from Xiaomi (the Redmi Note 4 has yet to get the MIUI Oreo update and Xiaomi won't release sources for it until it does), recoveries are pretty useless, IMO. Just stick with Nougat. It has sources so kernels for it are a whole lot more useful.
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Ah, didn't know that. If you tell so I think Im gonna stick with Nougat. Do you know when estimated time Xiaomi to release sources for Oreo?
ojankun said:
Ah, didn't know that. If you tell so I think Im gonna stick with Nougat. Do you know when estimated time Xiaomi to release sources for Oreo?
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Probably never. Xiaomi never updates its old phones to new Android versions (only makes aesthetic changes to MIUI in updates), and this phone is a year old now. So it's old in Xiaomi's eyes. Xiaomi is a hardware company. Makes its money off hardware. So it has to keep pumping out new phones to ensure sales. If everyone holds onto old phones, like us Note 4 owners, Xiaomi doesn't get paid.
So don't expect an Oreo update or official sources from Xiaomi. You'll probably have to move onto the Note 5 Pro if you want Oreo and good gaming performance.
sk8223 said:
Probably never. Xiaomi never updates its old phones to new Android versions (only makes aesthetic changes to MIUI in updates), and this phone is a year old now. So it's old in Xiaomi's eyes. Xiaomi is a hardware company. Makes its money off hardware. So it has to keep pumping out new phones to ensure sales. If everyone holds onto old phones, like us Note 4 owners, Xiaomi doesn't get paid.
So don't expect an Oreo update or official sources from Xiaomi. You'll probably have to move onto the Note 5 Pro if you want Oreo and good gaming performance.
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Wow nice information. Note 5 pro is too pricey imo, I better add few bucks for better device. K then, thanks buddy!

[Discussion] Android 9/Pei update for V10 - Beta started in China

While checking I found this URL -
which claims that Android 9.0 update has been rolled out to few test users in China (closed beta group) which indicates we may soon expect the Android 9 hitting a stable release in China followed by global release.
Highlight from GizChina article-
president of Huawei’s mobile phone product line, He Gang, revealed that Huawei Mate 10 Pro, Huawei P20, Honor 10, and Honor V10 models have simultaneously started Android 9 Pie beta testing. He further stated that Huawei’s engineers are already working hard to perfect the system.
According to Huawei’s pollen club’s announcement, the above-mentioned models pushed an internal test version to a small number of pollen users on August 6. The official internal testing recruitment activities for the majority of pollen users will commence as soon as the update is ready.
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According to Google, the new Android 9 Pie has two major upgrades. The first is its support for the recently popularized notch. In the developer mode, the Android 9 Pie system can simulate the notch and optimize the notification bar.
Secondly, the system efficiency is optimized which means that Android 9 Pie takes a shorter time to launch apps and the overall performance is better. At the same time, Android 9 Pie also displays the idle applications using the phone microphone, camera, and other sensors. The security of Android 9 Pie is better than the previous versions.
I found the similar article on GSM Arena: https://m.gsmarena.com/four_huawei_...ing_tested_with_android_90_pie-news-32670.php
I'm really satisfied with these news. Can't wait for the update, although it'll take a while. ?
Even 8.1 is not coming to our device...
Android 9.... by the time should already end of support of the 2 years firmware..
ciew said:
Even 8.1 is not coming to our device...
Android 9.... by the time should already end of support of the 2 years firmware..
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Maybe they'll skip 8.1 and go for 9.0 directly?
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ciew said:
Even 8.1 is not coming to our device...
Android 9.... by the time should already end of support of the 2 years firmware..
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Are you talking about EMUI or the actual version of Android?
The OP is speaking of Android Pie & I'm almost certain all Honor View 10's have been updated to Android 8.1........ Even if Huawei isn't tops in updates, I'd be surprised if this phone doesn't get Android 9.0.
I'd dare say we'll see it on this phone before any Samsung device, but, then again, that's not saying much, LOL....
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Are you talking about EMUI or the actual version of Android?
The OP is speaking of Android Pie & I'm almost certain all Honor View 10's have been updated to Android 8.1........ Even if Huawei isn't tops in updates, I'd be surprised if this phone doesn't get Android 9.0.
I'd dare say we'll see it on this phone before any Samsung device, but, then again, that's not saying much, LOL....
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The European Version of Honor view 10 is still on 8.0, on July Patch. Doesn't matter as im still on May patch because Huawei cant push out a ****ing patch to my phone for no god damn reason
Danfenn said:
The European Version of Honor view 10 is still on 8.0, on July Patch. Doesn't matter as im still on May patch because Huawei cant push out a ****ing patch to my phone for no god damn reason
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Is that EMUI 8.0 or Android 8.0
Just asking because the version I have (BKL-L04) has EMUI 8.0,but,is on Android 8.1:
That's Android 8.1 but you have the AMERICAN MODEL, The European version doesn't have android 8.1,
Notice your model is t C567 but mine is c430 which is the Europe version
Danfenn said:
That's Android 8.1 but you have the AMERICAN MODEL, The European version doesn't have android 8.1,
Notice your model is t C567 but mine is c430 which is the Europe version
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Yeah,I get that,was just checking that we were talking about the version of Android,not the version of EMUI.
I'm in agreement 100%,there is absolutely no reason for the fragmentation of Android versions on what is virtually the same exact phone.
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Yeah,I get that,was just checking that we were talking about the version of Android,not the version of EMUI.
I'm in agreement 100%,there is absolutely no reason for the fragmentation of Android versions on what is virtually the same exact phone.
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As far as Huawei / Honor is concerned, EMUI 8 has most changes found in Android 8.1 and also the Co. views the incremental updates as a major update. Their phones get two major Android updates and all phones released in 2018, whether with Android 8.0 or 8.1 would directly be updated to Android 9
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As far as Huawei / Honor is concerned, EMUI 8 has most changes found in Android 8.1 and also the Co. views the incremental updates as a major update. Their phones get two major Android updates and all phones released in 2018, whether with Android 8.0 or 8.1 would directly be updated to Android 9
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That may be true,but,it still doesn't explain why the European version is on Android 8.0 & the NA version is on Android 8.1.
It may not matter to you,but,right or wrong,it matters to the end user.
Why give the impression that Huawei values some regions over others,especially on the same device?
It leaves a bad taste in the mouth & may cause some current owners to look elsewhere for their next phone purchase.
Especially w/Huawei's recent climb in market share,it also gives the impression that they don't have to worry about how the end user thinks or feels about their phone.
Along w/the recent policy change regarding the bootloader unlock,those are two areas of great concern to perhaps a small,but,very vocal community of users.......just something to think about.....
While I'm satisfied w/my Honor View 10,I can state it's the last Huawei device I purchase,unless Huawei changes their stance on locked bootloaders................
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That may be true,but,it still doesn't explain why the European version is on Android 8.0 & the NA version is on Android 8.1.
It may not matter to you,but,right or wrong,it matters to the end user.
Why give the impression that Huawei values some regions over others,especially on the same device?
It leaves a bad taste in the mouth & may cause some current owners to look elsewhere for their next phone purchase.
Especially w/Huawei's recent climb in market share,it also gives the impression that they don't have to worry about how the end user thinks or feels about their phone.
Along w/the recent policy change regarding the bootloader unlock,those are two areas of great concern to perhaps a small,but,very vocal community of users.......just something to think about.....
While I'm satisfied w/my Honor View 10,I can state it's the last Huawei device I purchase,unless Huawei changes their stance on locked bootloaders................
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I get your point and I feel the same regarding the bootloader unlocking, but from Huawei's point of view, an unlocked bootloader just stands in their way of already rising security concerns of US and EU on Huawei. Regarding them releasing the same device with different android versions in different markets, it poses an issue only to a small group of people and I agree that it is wrong to other users, but we've been complaining about different regional firmware on Huawei devices since EMUI 4, but they have only turned a cold shoulder. A single international firmware (apart from their Chinese one) would help in faster software updates to all devices.
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I get your point and I feel the same regarding the bootloader unlocking, but from Huawei's point of view, an unlocked bootloader just stands in their way of already rising security concerns of US and EU on Huawei. Regarding them releasing the same device with different android versions in different markets, it poses an issue only to a small group of people and I agree that it is wrong to other users, but we've been complaining about different regional firmware on Huawei devices since EMUI 4, but they have only turned a cold shoulder. A single international firmware (apart from their Chinese one) would help in faster software updates to all devices.
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Your last statement is the head-scratcher(as to why there's not a universal Int'l firmware...................admittedly,Huawei isn't alone here,other mfgs are guilty of the same practice.
If the carriers are involved,as in the US,with their own bloat/etc....... I have to give 'em (Huawei & others) the benefit of the doubt.
If I could disable & re-enable Phone Manager at will w/o root,or,any other system apps (ADB allows for removal,but,a factory reset is needed to bring it back),I could forgo root on this phone.....
EMUI 4,I guess that goes back a ways,LOL,I had a long gap between Huawei Devices : OG Huawei Ascend m860 w/CM7 & some of the more current Huawei/Honor devices.
Have a great weekend! :good:
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Your last statement is the head-scratcher(as to why there's not a universal Int'l firmware...................admittedly,Huawei isn't alone here,other mfgs are guilty of the same practice.
If the carriers are involved,as in the US,with their own bloat/etc....... I have to give 'em (Huawei & others) the benefit of the doubt.
If I could disable & re-enable Phone Manager at will w/o root,or,any other system apps (ADB allows for removal,but,a factory reset is needed to bring it back),I could forgo root on this phone.....
EMUI 4,I guess that goes back a ways,LOL,I had a long gap between Huawei Devices : OG Huawei Ascend m860 w/CM7 & some of the more current Huawei/Honor devices.
Have a great weekend! :good:
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I really don't get Carrier based devices as the specific distribution channel really doesn't work well in Asian markets (I'm from India). I'd really wish if Huawei / Honor took the Oneplus route with a single firmware internationally. Oneplus beats Huawei / Honor in terms of software update reputation mainly because of their ease of updating their devices worldwide. I'd also like to get an android one version of Honor flagships. That'd be great, don't you think?
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I really don't get Carrier based devices as the specific distribution channel really doesn't work well in Asian markets (I'm from India). I'd really wish if Huawei / Honor took the Oneplus route with a single firmware internationally. Oneplus beats Huawei / Honor in terms of software update reputation mainly because of their ease of updating their devices worldwide. I'd also like to get an android one version of Honor flagships. That'd be great, don't you think?
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Now you're talkin', I'd get an Android One Huawei device, with or without root.
I had the Xiaomi Mi A1, that was a nice phone, especially at the price point. :good:
Sent from my HUAWEI BKL-L04 using XDA Labs
Masinac85 said:
I found the similar article on GSM Arena: https://m.gsmarena.com/four_huawei_...ing_tested_with_android_90_pie-news-32670.php
I'm really satisfied with these news. Can't wait for the update, although it'll take a while. ?
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Yeah but unfortunately i can't unlock bootloader and debrand to China to use Pie early and will have to wait for update to release for other regions
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Are you talking about EMUI or the actual version of Android?
The OP is speaking of Android Pie & I'm almost certain all Honor View 10's have been updated to Android 8.1........ Even if Huawei isn't tops in updates, I'd be surprised if this phone doesn't get Android 9.0.
I'd dare say we'll see it on this phone before any Samsung device, but, then again, that's not saying much, LOL....
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Only US on EMUI/android 8.1 (haven't heard of China yet) but others are still on 8.0
KOLIOSIS said:
Is that EMUI 8.0 or Android 8.0
Just asking because the version I have (BKL-L04) has EMUI 8.0,but,is on Android 8.1:
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US model was released late directly with 8.1
iamsabresh said:
I get your point and I feel the same regarding the bootloader unlocking, but from Huawei's point of view, an unlocked bootloader just stands in their way of already rising security concerns of US and EU on Huawei.
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I wonder why you and other people thinks bootloader unlocking has something to do with the US and EU security concerns, when it should be the other way around.
If you think about it, it's the other way around, meaning that with an unlockable bootloader, security researchers, NSA, CIA, you name it, could investigate on what's happening under the hood, while with a locked bootloader all this it's very hard to crack.
US was never concerned about Huawei devices being easy to crack because their bootloader can be unlocked, but their concerns were about China spying on US citizens, government, etc. Same goes with EU.
What would help Huawei, is open sourcing their chipset, being more transparent to the eye of the security researchers and developers, not closing their system even more.
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Only US on EMUI/android 8.1 (haven't heard of China yet) but others are still on 8.0
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Your comment hammers home my point,the phone was released elsewhere 1st & stands to reason that earlier adopters would have 8.1 before the newer regions.
The explanation given earlier ,that the latest EMUI has all the features of Android 8.1,regardless of which version of Android you're running,is illogical.
If that's the case,then why would Huawei bother with an updated version of Android on one region & not others.
It's crazy,so,that is why one with a model running Android 8.1 would make the assumption the other regions are on the same version......
Yes,I'm sure it's been discussed here in other threads & I've missed that discrepancy,obviously,until now.
I have no complaints w/the phone,one of the best overall I've owned,especially with the price of admission,so,I haven't had the need to read every thread & response.......

[REQUEST] Treble Support

Hello All,
So this thread is dedicated to bringing treble to our note 8! The Galaxy S9 has received treble support and it's disappointing to not see it here.
What is treble?
It's basically a method of partitioning the system by separating the drivers (vendor) and the actual system. This allows for flashing of GSIs and according to current results from the S9 EVERYTHING WORKS without a hitch.
So please developers bring this to our devices and let us enjoy bugless AOSP!
Link to S9 Treble: https://www.google.ae/amp/s/forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/how-to/howto-treble-s9-t3765558/amp/
So you do realize that S9 came with treble from the factory right? The only way to bring treble to the n8 is via repartitioning the device and it can be fairly risky if you dont know what you are doing. I suggest you read some device threads that users have partitioned to treble and not a device that comes with it from the factory
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So you do realize that S9 came with treble from the factory right? The only way to bring treble to the n8 is via repartitioning the device and it can be fairly risky if you dont know what you are doing. I suggest you read some device threads that users have partitioned to treble and not a device that comes with it from the factory
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To be honest note 8 just need kenrel supporting treble . We got twrp supporting treble but no kernel . There are no devs who really care about note 8 so I wouldn't expect much . But it's possible to port it
I dont think it ever will come the note 9 just got root i think if im not wrong according to to majisk amd its already partitioned for treble so basically the note 8 is toast once the father of root decided to leave thats it.!! It happened to alot of snapdragon samsungs this one will always stay on 7.1.1 with root hope this helps. Ive planned to jump in november
On my side, i don t understand why it s not possible for the note 8 when one plus 3, oneplus 5 and galaxy note 3 are in the treble update list (i ve read this list on xda). I just think sammy doesn t want to give treble for note 8 to force peoples to jump for the note 9 which is not attractive for me because the new spen features are gadget for me and the battery life will be the same (yes the spen blutooth explain a bigger battery). I think i will wait for the note 10 or the oneplus 6t (maybe it will feature a pen lol). The time will say.
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On my side, i don t understand why it s not possible for the note 8 when one plus 3, oneplus 5 and galaxy note 3 are in the treble update list (i ve read this list on xda). I just think sammy doesn t want to give treble for note 8 to force peoples to jump for the note 9 which is not attractive for me because the new spen features are gadget for me and the battery life will be the same (yes the spen blutooth explain a bigger battery). I think i will wait for the note 10 or the oneplus 6t (maybe it will feature a pen lol). The time will say.
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The Note 3?? That doesn't sound right...if you find the source for that please share.
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The Note 3?? That doesn't sound right...if you find the source for that please share.
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I m sorry. After reading your comment, i v searched for the link and realized that i make a mistake. You re right. The note 3 is listed to receive android pie and no treble. As we know that all of the devices wich have oreo out of the box will automatically have treble and reading that some oneplus old devices will get treble, and seeing note 3 will receive android 9, i did a very speed conclusion that the note 3 will receive project treble. It s my mistake and i apologize for that. Really sorry.
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I m sorry. After reading your comment, i v searched for the link and realized that i make a mistake. You re right. The note 3 is listed to receive android pie and no treble. As we know that all of the devices wich have oreo out of the box will automatically have treble and reading that some oneplus old devices will get treble, and seeing note 3 will receive android 9, i did a very speed conclusion that the note 3 will receive project treble. It s my mistake and i apologize for that. Really sorry.
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No worries at all! I was just curious . Thank you for following up and confirming!
i dont know if that the same i have huawe mate 8 and i cant flash oreo rom over nougat becoz partion so when i debrand it and got oreo via ota im able to flash oreo rom and treble what i want to say oreo partions allows treble dunno about note 8! maybe?
would love to see treble for the note 8. the dev love will eventually come to the note 8 as well, it is a really popular phone and over the next year or so most "regular" users will upgrade again and the moding community ill pick up on cheap, second hand note 8's as it is an excellent phone. really wish there was an AOSP rom with absolutely no samsung bull****, even if I would have to give up a lot of features - treble would make that possible.

Xiaomi Update Reputation

Hi, I was wondering for people who have own various Xiaomi phones. How are they on OS updates and Security updates?
HiddenSanctum said:
Hi, I was wondering for people who have own various Xiaomi phones. How are they on OS updates and Security updates?
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They have weekly ROM updates for those who want to opt-in to the developer builds.
Stable builds are at their own discretion.
They're not amazing, but better than many.
Security updates is another story. They're a bit slow with them, though I think that varies per device (Redmi is budget so gets low priority).
Poco is a new brand trying to go global though, so hopefully it's better than other devices (not sure how security updates are on the flagship Mi series)
After one or two months most of the people will shift to some or the other custom rom. So there won't be any problem with the security updates and normal OS upgrades. My Mi3 was released with KitKat now it's running Android Pie
rahulkamma14 said:
After one or two months most of the people will shift to some or the other custom rom. So there won't be any problem with the security updates and normal OS upgrades. My Mi3 was released with KitKat now it's running Android Pie
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I assume he's asking about *Xiaomi* updates, the official ROM. Of course you can just install custom ROM's to get latest updates unofficially - but that makes the question moot.
HiddenSanctum said:
Hi, I was wondering for people who have own various Xiaomi phones. How are they on OS updates and Security updates?
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Beta ROM updates are very fast both security n OS updates.
Stable updates within the same OS version are faster too. But OS upgrade need a bit waiting time as OS integrating to MIUI takes time.
Poco I expect faster updates due to treble support.
FYI:
Mix 2S of xiaomi already has Android 9 beta update.
very bad on stock roms stuck to old OS builds for mid range phones but on flagships very fast like blyat cyka rush b
I have used Redmi 2, Redmi 2 Prime, Redmi Note 3/4/5, Redmi 3S/prime and only Redmi 2 and Redmi Note 3 as my daily driver.
Those things taught the following:
Don't except updates from Xiaomi, not even security patches, although they have started providing patches on Note series but they are always late, so patches may arrive but not when you expect them.
You may not get the latest features even if you have the latest android version on your MIUI, why? because Xiaomi wants to provide same features to all the phones so that phones running on Kitkat will have the same feature as phone running on Oreo, this makes their software development easy, that means that the feature that you are using doesn't have native support and may be buggy and battery hogging.
There are two channels in MIUI - Beta Channel and StableChannel. Stable channel update is provided every 4-5 months or whenever they feel like or to fix a very important bug. Beta channel was previously bimonthly but I have heard that now, it's changed. Due to this, they don't fix bugs properly and instead introduce more bugs in the system
Their update size are generally 500MB-1.5GB but the fixes are things like: Calender icon changed, Button of some subforum in MIUI forum app changed, New Ringtones and every useless things, then in the end *Bug Fixes* but they don't mention which one. Out of every 10 beta updates only 1 or 2 updates are useful while others are just formality.
Now, note this, other companies give update to keep your phone running for longer amount of time. Xiaomi thinks different, they will wreck your device with every update they provide.
When I had Redmi Note 3, Beta channel was more better and more stable than the Stable channel, I am not lying go check the forums.
There is no major change in MIUI 7-9 the first major change I saw was MIUI6 - MIUI 7 after that all changes were just useless and they everytime just change notification shade style.
MIUI 10 - Notification shade now looks like a copy of iPhone and it's really very cheap act by Xiaomi, although their App switcher is somewhat cool.
Custom ROM:
Xiaomi phones works best with stock android and indeed has the best development support. But there are few catches.
Not all features work in custom ROM, you will have to leave one or two things if you want to use custom ROM.
The famous and best developers will not port VOLTE if their cell providers don't provide it
Camera (on Xiaomi phones) doesn't works well on custom ROMS.
Xiaomi does provide kernel but they don't provide a lot of proprietary codes and binaries that ensures smooth functioning of phones.
Don't buy the phone if you want to get updates unless it's Chinese, they do care about Chinese people unlike their global counterpart, or those people who develop global roms are arseheads.
All the above points can be confirmed on MIUI forums and XDA, if anyone says that even one of the point(s) is wrong, he is probably new in Xiaomi's world.
Redmi is the cheap line and they get late updates and bugs are not fixed properly. Mi is the expensive line of Xiaomi so they get proper update in first few months and after that they are also neglected. Since Poco is also a cheap but is a flagship, they will get good number of updates and fixes for few months then they will announce another phone and Poco will be neglected, and people who are saying that Poco has a different team may be wrong, I don't think Xioami will divide the team because internally it uses the same MIUI as others only launcher is different. For world Poco is a brand, for Xiaomi it's yet another phone.
Depends. My Mi3 got updated from kitkat to Marshmallow while my mi tab 1 was still stuck at kitkat with such a laggy interface until I flashed nougat roms with shiels blobs which made the tab as smooth as my oneplus 3. So MIUI sucks and they don't update android versions when they update their miui version. So buy a phone which has strong custom rom support. (Xiaomi models that are sold in India have strong dev support from what I have seen)
Thanks everyone for the info. That gives me a good idea.
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very bad on stock roms stuck to old OS builds for mid range phones but on flagships very fast like blyat cyka rush b
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Aye Aye Kurwa :laugh:
you forgot p90
Sandepp said:
Depends. My Mi3 got updated from kitkat to Marshmallow while my mi tab 1 was still stuck at kitkat with such a laggy interface until I flashed nougat roms with shiels blobs which made the tab as smooth as my oneplus 3. So MIUI sucks and they don't update android versions when they update their miui version. So buy a phone which has strong custom rom support. (Xiaomi models that are sold in India have strong dev support from what I have seen)
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Huh? You say it sucks but your Mi 3 got two major updates. How does that suck?
As for tablet, well it's a tablet. Android tablets were always poor selling and are now completely dead anyway (Chrome OS tablets are the future), can't compare phones to tablets.

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