I know this was asked before, but I couldn't find any definitive answers for this, so bear with me here.
Exactly how much data will I lose by rooting via CF-Auto and Odin?
I know that unlocking BootLoader will wipe everything. I'm just not sure if CF-Auto does so
And if it does, what methods do you recommend for backing up the data I'd lose?
Thanks in advance
It does not wipe anything. However, IF something goes wrong in the process, it might require you to reset or to reinstall the original firmware, which will wipe everything. For backups, there are tons of options. Just depends on what you are trying to back up. Samsung Smart Switch does a solid job. Or there are tons of backup apps where you can just back up what you need to your storage and then drag and drop all of that to your PC for safe keeping.
es0tericcha0s said:
It does not wipe anything. However, IF something goes wrong in the process, it might require you to reset or to reinstall the original firmware, which will wipe everything. For backups, there are tons of options. Just depends on what you are trying to back up. Samsung Smart Switch does a solid job. Or there are tons of backup apps where you can just back up what you need to your storage and then drag and drop all of that to your PC for safe keeping.
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Even if the bootloader is locked?
Does rooting with CF unlock the bootloader?
If CF Auto Root supports your device, it'll work. It does not unlock the bootloader.
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[Q] Do TempRoot changes "disappear" following factory reset of htc unlocking?
OK, ready to root my new stock rezound. I would love to have a backup of my current stock phone, complete with installed apps, contacts, etc.
So..... must I temp root to back up my present apps, contacts, and settings? Will the temp root process create differences to my stock phone even though I'll be doing a factory reset when I unlock the bootloader?
My question is really, will my phone be identical following both scenarios:
1. Don't temp root --- just unlock bootloader, factory reset, permanent root.
2. Temp root, backup apps, settings, contacts. Then unlock bootloader, factory reset, permanent root.
Unlocking the boot loader will erase all the data on the phone (except the sd card) so the factory reset step is not needed. If you want to make a backup then yes you will have to do that before you unlock.
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OK, ready to root my new stock rezound. I would love to have a backup of my current stock phone, complete with installed apps, contacts, etc.
So..... must I temp root to back up my present apps, contacts, and settings? Will the temp root process create differences to my stock phone even though I'll be doing a factory reset when I unlock the bootloader?
My question is really, will my phone be identical following both scenarios:
1. Don't temp root --- just unlock bootloader, factory reset, permanent root.
2. Temp root, backup apps, settings, contacts. Then unlock bootloader, factory reset, permanent root.
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Yes, if you're backing up with an app like Titanium, you can restore the backup after you unlock/perm-root. SSDD
I have unrooted and done a complete wipe with odin but the Samsung unlocked icon is still there. How do I get rid of it?
EfjZaiN said:
I have unrooted and done a complete wipe with odin but the Samsung unlocked icon is still there. How do I get rid of it?
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What base are you on?
The short answer is that whenever you need to do that, you can always flash a full-wipe factory signed ROM image, which will clear the flag.
When I was on MI1, I used Triangle Away to clear the flash counter and "Custom" flag with some experimentation.
I think that using that on MJ7 will set the "Odin Warranty Void" flag which is not currently recoverable.
So, don't worry about it until you need to sell your phone or return it. If you really need it cleared right now, you'll need to flash factory stock and lose root in the process.
I decided to remove root so that doesn't matter to me, do you know where to find a full wipe factory rom?
EfjZaiN said:
I decided to remove root so that doesn't matter to me, do you know where to find a full wipe factory rom?
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The easy way to a full-wipe is to use the Verizon Recovery Assistant - plug your phone in to your PC and a drive will show up with the recovery assistant.
Otherwise, search the "Android Development" forum for your build for the appropriate full-wipe ROM.
Please keep in mind that doing a full-wipe install may make it impossible to root in the future.
I won't be rooting again, thanks for the help.
Hi,
I rooted my Z2 tablet a few days ago and have found that I don't really need the advantages it brings (from what I can tell). SO - I want to get it back to the way it was when I first opened the box.
I have seen threads about different devices and how to restore them to factory or stock (??), but they seem to call for specific files or flash software. So that brings me once again to this forum to figure out whether anyone can direct me to some instructions on how to do this. I figure it shouldn't be too hard. Just being careful.
Thanks very much for the advice once again.
I think if you flash the rootable kernel again, you could use an unrooting tool to undo the root. I'm also aware that there are files that you can flash to re-lock the bootloader (I once did this with an Xperia mini pro, although I'm not sure if such file exists for this tablet) but the DRM keys are lost forever a.f.a.i.k. But at least if you manage to re-lock the bootloader you will be able to install F/W upgrades through official ways again.
degraaff said:
I think if you flash the rootable kernel again, you could use an unrooting tool to undo the root. I'm also aware that there are files that you can flash to re-lock the bootloader (I once did this with an Xperia mini pro, although I'm not sure if such file exists for this tablet) but the DRM keys are lost forever a.f.a.i.k. But at least if you manage to re-lock the bootloader you will be able to install F/W upgrades through official ways again. Anyhow, you won't be able to restore to (more or less) factory status without at least flashing a couple of files.
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THank you for the response. Unfortunately i'm not even sure how I would go about flashing 'the rootable kernel'.... Feeling a bit foolish for getting into this actually.
From what i'm reading, it seems like I need to get the stock software and start again. So i'm looking for the 'FTF' for my tablet, which is a SGP511. Not having any luck though.
Which was the process that you followed to root it?
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Which was the process that you followed to root it?
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It was on another site - can't remember which. It got the clockwork mod installed. I think? Or was that just a recovery thing? No idea.
I'm actually now just doing a factory reset to see what happens, and it said 'root access possibly lost' in the process, which I thought was a good sign. Guess i'll keep tinkering with enough caution to eventually get the warranty back in tact.
Hopefully the loss of DRM doesn't effect the warranty.
In that case I guess you will have to download a firmware ftf file of an official unmodded firmware (preferably one of your region but I think especially if you have the wifi-only version it doesn't matter much as long as it contains the interface and input languages that you need), and install (or "flash") that using Flashtool. After that the root will certainly be gone and if you could then find a file to relock your bootloader I think your warrenty will be fine. I honestly don't think that Sony service and repair personel will check for DRM keys every time before repairing a device.
UPDATE
Factory reset appears to have gotten things back to normal. My plan is now just to unroot using an unroot tool (app i guess?) and then to lock the bootloader some how as well.
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Factory reset appears to have gotten things back to normal. My plan is now just to unroot using an unroot tool (app i guess?) and then to lock the bootloader some how as well.
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So it's certain that the tablet is still rooted at this moment? Some superuser apps have an option to do a full unroot, such as SuperSU, you could try that
That's great. I think that's sorted it out. SuperSU had the full unroot option and it looks like it's all sorted.
Thanks for the help.
Would a factory reset remove root?
My config:
Apollo, FireOS 14.3.2.3.2
Rootmethod: towelroot
factory reset on new rom slot after installed safestrap or factory reset on stock rom?
stapler85 said:
factory reset on new rom slot after installed safestrap or factory reset on stock rom?
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ROM Slot. The safestrap for 14.3.2.3.2 is in development and not existent as far as I know.
dimi5 said:
ROM Slot. The safestrap for 14.3.2.3.2 is in development and not existent as far as I know.
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Then no. changes on rom slots wont affect stock, which is where you shouldnt mess with
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Then no. changes on rom slots wont affect stock, which is where you shouldnt mess with
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Soory stapler85. I'm posting bull****.
Again: I don't have safestrap, therefore, I've only the stock rom. However, at I'm going to do a factory reset in the near furutre, and was just curious, whether the device must be rooted afterthat or the factory reset would not affect the system apps/data.
Its funny when people post a question, get an answer, and then claim they dont like that answer.
Perhaps if you gave correct information you would get the answer related to what is going on. You said you were on a ROM slot, so factory reset of that slot will NOT make you lose root just like stappler85 said. Now you just said you are not on a slot but on regular stock, so yes a factory reset probably will make you lose root of your stock system.
If you think about it. You are going to root the stock rom anyway. Why not factory reset FIRST so you know it wont mess up. Then root and SS etc.
But im sure factory reset on rooted stock rom will mess some things up. This device seems unpredictable and probably amazon intention to deter messing around with.
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Its funny when people post a question, get an answer, and then claim they dont like that answer.
Perhaps if you gave correct information you would get the answer related to what is going on. You said you were on a ROM slot, so factory reset of that slot will NOT make you lose root just like stappler85 said. Now you just said you are not on a slot but on regular stock, so yes a factory reset probably will make you lose root of your stock system.
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If you read his post he explained that safe strap does not exist for his version of kindle. Therefore he did not receive an answer for his question and your entire post is in error, as well as utterly useless. As for this particular device I can't say but on MOST android devices I've owned root stays even after a factory reset. Must re flash or Un root on many of my other devices I've had to reset, just re downloaded supersu.
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If you read his post he explained that safe strap does not exist for his version of kindle. Therefore he did not receive an answer for his question and your entire post is in error, as well as utterly useless. As for this particular device I can't say but on MOST android devices I've owned root stays even after a factory reset. Must re flash or Un root on many of my other devices I've had to reset, just re downloaded supersu.
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No
You should not lose root by doing a factory reset on a working system. You may however lose superuser app if you do not have it installed into system . Open superuser be sure binaries are updated scroll down in settings and be sure superuser is installed into system and you will be fine . To do a factory reset per security settings . Keep in mind if you want to do a reset it will wipe Sdcard and everything you have copied to tablet so backed them up onto your PC and put them back if you wish to keep it
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You should not lose root by doing a factory reset on a working system. You may however lose superuser app if you do not have it installed into system . Open superuser be sure binaries are updated scroll down in settings and be sure superuser is installed into system and you will be fine . To do a factory reset per security settings . Keep in mind if you want to do a reset it will wipe Sdcard and everything you have copied to tablet so backed them up onto your PC and put them back if you wish to keep it
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Thanks to all who are commenting on this post. I started a similar thread earlier because I didn't realize this one was asking a question similar to what I would like to better understand.
I rooted an HDX 7 running 13.3.2.2 using Towel root. All works well. I may sell this tablet in the very near future in order to upgrade to an 8.9 HDX. Is there a simple process for fully UN-rooting this tablet and resetting it back to stock as if it just came out of the box? I am not concerned with losing any personal data on the tablet.
I stress simple because my skills are limited and I do not want to risk bricking. If the risk is too high, I would rather sell it as rooted and erase all user data.
rootnooby said:
Thanks to all who are commenting on this post. I started a similar thread earlier because I didn't realize this one was asking a question similar to what I would like to better understand.
I rooted an HDX 7 running 13.3.2.2 using Towel root. All works well. I may sell this tablet in the very near future in order to upgrade to an 8.9 HDX. Is there a simple process for fully UN-rooting this tablet and resetting it back to stock as if it just came out of the box? I am not concerned with losing any personal data on the tablet.
I stress simple because my skills are limited and I do not want to risk bricking. If the risk is too high, I would rather sell it as rooted and erase all user data.
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Open su /setting/ full unroot/ bam
Security/ factory reset/bam
Love it! Thank you!
Hey guys,
Do I lose all my data on a downgrade? (4.4.4 to 4.4.2) because I think it's just like a update, just the other way round.
Thanks in advance, _Heisenberg
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Hey guys,
Do I lose all my data on a downgrade? (4.4.4 to 4.4.2) because I think it's just like a update, just the other way round.
Thanks in advance, _Heisenberg
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yes you will lose all the data. it not exactly an update. its more like a factory restore. if you dont select system while flashing than you might retain the data but it'll create other problems i think like FCs and such. if you want retain the data, like game progress and such i suggest you use helium app, it can backup entire data and restore it when you have flashed anything else. but if you gonna unlock your bootloader and flash a lollipop ROM than its not gonna help as file placement is different in lollipop, i dont know whether even titanium will help in that case, you might have to start completely from scratch.
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yes you will lose all the data. it not exactly an update. its more like a factory restore. if you dont select system while flashing than you might retain the data but it'll create other problems i think like FCs and such. if you want retain the data, like game progress and such i suggest you use helium app, it can backup entire data and restore it when you have flashed anything else. but if you gonna unlock your bootloader and flash a lollipop ROM than its not gonna help as file placement is different in lollipop, i dont know whether even titanium will help in that case, you might have to start completely from scratch.
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Okay, i just want to flash the downgrade for root and recovery, so I think there is no problem with it, is it? And if I downgrade, I think I am able to backup everything with Titanium Backup. Do you think that's possible?
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Okay, i just want to flash the downgrade for root and recovery, so I think there is no problem with it, is it? And if I downgrade, I think I am able to backup everything with Titanium Backup. Do you think that's possible?
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You can root and then update using the PRFtool and you'll retain root,probably even after OTA you will retain root, but i've heard that it varies with different people, you may or may not retain root after simple OTA, also i'm not sure how much help titanium backup will be before rooting as it requires root for backup function, as i suggested, use helium app, no root required. keep the backup safe, flash the prf through recovery, the flash the baseband and kernel through the ftf, then you'll be on latest FW with root and then you can restore the data from helium backup.
Edit: just now understood, you meant use titanium after downgrading and rooting probably, you will lose all the data during downgrading, so nothing will be left after downgrading to backup. have to backup before downgrading.