Well, Again....
We have read that after replacement on device (Or by updating latest ROM), Your device status bar will have green battery icon as well you will have extra battery icon in power menu
OK, here is screenshot how easily it can be faked
Again this is not fake theme but faking that device is safe and that's why started charging 60% + which is more unsafe.
Responsible developer can never share this but what if someone have did this?
Even this can be toggle too. Look attached video
So Now before boarding, N7 users require to reach half an early and pass through an IMEI check by aviation authority is the only safer way? OR N7 users should ever need to keep their device turned off? lol !
Here screenshots : Initial screen where notice about device is unsafe and later two screenshots of fake icons.
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This is bad if people can fake it. I was really looking forward to Note 7.,Now I'm thinking if I should go for the S7 edge or some other phone. Wouldn't want to waste 60k on a device that's unsafe.
But S7 edge has smaller screen, and I'm habituated to the big Note screens.
Tbh, I dont see this as an issue when phone is purchased from Authentic sources because Samsung will not play such cheap tricks particularly given the market they lost due to initial explosions. They simply cant afford it.
Having said that, getting a second hand or Grey market device would be very risky.
Also, the resale value of the device would go down.
Exactly. There is no doubt about safety when we purchase from authentic source but yes I mean t say how about safety of other If someone sell in Grey market or second hand. Also what if some culprit take risk on board by switching on a unsafe device.
My humble request never buy a N7 which is already rooted.
How everything is going against the best phablet in market... Is just s matter of time every company had to face this once even aapke but none was highlighted... Il be sticking to samsung note 7 or s8 it is.... Where was this media when apple blasted ? This should be a self decision i am not suggesting any one here to do as i do, you all are intelligent enough
Matter is how poorly coded safety check. If billion dollar company making a security measure such a way that can be fooled by 40min then it's disappointing. Secure folder and Knox are so hard coded that no one yet can break it on rooted device. Does such kind of security measure shouldn't apply here? This one is more important then Knox and secure folder. But just doing this because of hurry?
I don't see the green icon on the AOD display from the photos above. The new note has green battery on AOD!!!!
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It is a shame really, I was soo looking forward to Note 7, but all these happening, I am giving a sec thoughts, heck even considering iPhone 7 plus (256gb, well hello Samsung!)...
Er. Aditya said:
How everything is going against the best phablet in market... Is just s matter of time every company had to face this once even aapke but none was highlighted... Il be sticking to samsung note 7 or s8 it is.... Where was this media when apple blasted ? This should be a self decision i am not suggesting any one here to do as i do, you all are intelligent enough
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dr.ketan said:
Matter is how poorly coded safety check. If billion dollar company making a security measure such a way that can be fooled by 40min then it's disappointing. Secure folder and Knox are so hard coded that no one yet can break it on rooted device. Does such kind of security measure shouldn't apply here? This one is more important then Knox and secure folder. But just doing this because of hurry?
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They absolutely rushed it.
So then the natural next question is did they rush fixing the battery issue itself?
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Just don't think this phone is worth the hassle, such a shame. Oh well.
B3501 said:
Just don't think this phone is worth the hassle, such a shame. Oh well.
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If i didn't already have on i def would not be buying one right now...
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Color me unconvinced by those pictures. How do we know the "warning" shot was taken after the "green battery" shots? Or how do we know that the IMEI of the phone in the "green battery" shots isn't good? There were phones (Chinese and Vietnamese) made in the first batches that always had "good" batteries. For consistency I'd imagine Samsung would push the "green battery" update out to those phones. There were 33 processes updated with the "green battery" update. I might be naïve but I'm assuming some of those updated processes were system files that aren't accessible without tripping KNOX. I could be wrong but so much in this thread is hearsay and lapped up by the audience as fact that I've become even more skeptical whenever OMG! is involved.
BarryH_GEG said:
Color me unconvinced by those pictures. How do we know the "warning" shot was taken after the "green battery" shots? Or how do we know that the IMEI of the phone in the "green battery" shots isn't good? There were phones (Chinese and Vietnamese) made in the first batches that always had "good" batteries. For consistency I'd imagine Samsung would push the "green battery" update out to those phones. There were 33 processes updated with the "green battery" update. I might be naïve but I'm assuming some of those updated processes were system files that aren't accessible without tripping KNOX. I could be wrong but so much in this thread is hearsay and lapped up by the audience as fact that I've become even more skeptical whenever OMG! is involved.
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True enough.
But we have both been around long enough to realize that at some point the green icon will be replaceable with a white one and that the green will be able to be faked.
Bound to happen.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Color me unconvinced by those pictures. How do we know the "warning" shot was taken after the "green battery" shots? Or how do we know that the IMEI of the phone in the "green battery" shots isn't good? There were phones (Chinese and Vietnamese) made in the first batches that always had "good" batteries. For consistency I'd imagine Samsung would push the "green battery" update out to those phones. There were 33 processes updated with the "green battery" update. I might be naïve but I'm assuming some of those updated processes were system files that aren't accessible without tripping KNOX. I could be wrong but so much in this thread is hearsay and lapped up by the audience as fact that I've become even more skeptical whenever OMG! is involved.
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Which processes were updated exactly? Where is your source that says this?
Ok.
But what stops someone from changing the battery to a third party later, do they deserve the green icon? I think so.
If not, think about all the third party batteries out there...what makes them less likely to explode.
BarryH_GEG said:
Color me unconvinced by those pictures. How do we know the "warning" shot was taken after the "green battery" shots? Or how do we know that the IMEI of the phone in the "green battery" shots isn't good? There were phones (Chinese and Vietnamese) made in the first batches that always had "good" batteries. For consistency I'd imagine Samsung would push the "green battery" update out to those phones. There were 33 processes updated with the "green battery" update. I might be naïve but I'm assuming some of those updated processes were system files that aren't accessible without tripping KNOX. I could be wrong but so much in this thread is hearsay and lapped up by the audience as fact that I've become even more skeptical whenever OMG! is involved.
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Dr Ketan is one of the most respected Samsung devs around here and has made Samsung Roms etc for years, I doubt he'd make this up or fake it to be honest.
B3501 said:
Dr Ketan is one of the most respected Samsung devs around here and has made Samsung Roms etc for years, I doubt he'd make this up or fake it to be honest.
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I've been here for year's too. That doesn't mean you should believe everything I say. From being here that many years I'm well aware of @dr.ketan. I'm sure he'll be back to 'splain and fill in missing details.
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Which processes were updated exactly? Where is your source that says this?
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My source is me. After you take an update when the phone reboots the first time it says "Android is upgrading." It counts down the number of files, apps, processes it's updating until it finishes and reboots.
I can let you know that delta airlines and a few airports only advise that the note 7 can't be charged or on while flying. They don't actually check. I just got back from Kansas today after being there since last Sunday and my phone was not checked at all. I even took pix and vids of the sky during flight. Atlanta, Minnesota, Kansas and ct are the state's I flew to/from. Going into tmobile tomorrow to exchange for the replacement.
BarryH_GEG said:
Color me unconvinced by those pictures. How do we know the "warning" shot was taken after the "green battery" shots? Or how do we know that the IMEI of the phone in the "green battery" shots isn't good? There were phones (Chinese and Vietnamese) made in the first batches that always had "good" batteries. For consistency I'd imagine Samsung would push the "green battery" update out to those phones. There were 33 processes updated with the "green battery" update. I might be naïve but I'm assuming some of those updated processes were system files that aren't accessible without tripping KNOX. I could be wrong but so much in this thread is hearsay and lapped up by the audience as fact that I've become even more skeptical whenever OMG! is involved.
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Exactly there 's alot of possibilities that can s happen just like fake explode reports which were all made up to help down fall of samsung but one really can't help it when device is amazing
force70 said:
True enough.
But we have both been around long enough to realize that at some point the green icon will be replaceable with a white one and that the green will be able to be faked.
Bound to happen.
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Hey bro hote you been ? Then there's an imei checker to finally nail the final drill
B3501 said:
Dr Ketan is one of the most respected Samsung devs around here and has made Samsung Roms etc for years, I doubt he'd make this up or fake it to be honest.
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He just made his point correct no where said dr ketan is wrong or spreading misleading info
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I've been here for year's too. That doesn't mean you should believe everything I say. From being here that many years I'm well aware of @dr.ketan. I'm sure he'll be back to 'splain and fill in missing details.
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My source is me. After you take an update when the phone reboots the first time it says "Android is upgrading." It counts down the number of files, apps, processes it's updating until it finishes and reboots.
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I can let you know that delta airlines and a few airports only advise that the note 7 can't be charged or on while flying. They don't actually check. I just got back from Kansas today after being there since last Sunday and my phone was not checked at all. I even took pix and vids of the sky during flight. Atlanta, Minnesota, Kansas and ct are the state's I flew to/from. Going into tmobile tomorrow to exchange for the replacement.
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Amazing i an all waiting for indian launch man... Thanks for info shared about airlines
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Pic links should be back up by the end of today 2/3/12
direct link to the album still works
For those not aware, I have had the benefit of having a great friend at Samsung that allows me to view/test/play with devices before release.
Previous devices on ATT Galaxy s2, the 10" and 8.9" tab, Skyrocket, and most recently the Galaxy Note. He has been dead on with release dates on all of the above.
What I have so far:
Confirmed as available for retail 2/19/12, pre orders begin 2/5/12
The 18th is on paper
Now..the good stuff..as mentioned, pics are typically forbidden but I grabbed what I could. When I hooked it to the PC he got all freaked out about what I was doing so..no dump (yet)
I liked the device. I am 6'4" and it was comfortable to hold...I could thumb type, one hand it no problem. The screen is absolutely amazing. Clear, crisp, no signs of flaws save the minor discoloration (similar to blobs) on dark grey backgrounds...so barely noticeable that I think i noticed them, but could not reproduce them for further observation. Pulled a few HD vids on you tube and wow...it didn't put the Skyrocket to shame, but the difference was noticeable. Much crisper, more vivid..NO LAG. Both devices tested equally on speedtest.net on LTE. This bad boy never lagged not once and the new touchwiz was pretty cool, but only a few new additions. I failed to take video..I grabbed a snapshot and doodled on it with the pen and that was about it.
The bad...
The speaker appears to be the same as the Skyrocket. Plenty loud in a quiet setting but drowned out in a crowded In and Out at 10 pm. Call quality was awful..I made two calls, each to someone sitting at a nearby table. I could barely hear them, they could barely hear me. May have been the environment, this place was packed.
The stylus was a neat gimmick. With some practice it might be pretty cool but I did not get the feel I would use it more than to just show it off. The hope would be that developers work it in to more apps. I tested it with the built in Memo app and texting. Texting was awful...if you want an example try evernote...it really seems counter productive.
Overall it will be a great device, but it does not offer enough for me to ditch my skyrocket. If you want the screen size, and resolution, it's an OK upgrade. I can not justify the cost right now. We have more upgrades opening up on other lines later in the year, and I will evaluate offerings at that time. For now I will keep my Skyrocket.
Oh..NFC is a maybe at this point. The device on the inside of the battery door this guy claims is an antenna...Some report it as being NFC...
I will do some more research.
all pics can be viewed at http://photobucket.com/galaxy_note_lte
uploading shots taken with our skyrockets now
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Device pics..taken with our Skyrockets
My source called today to let me know he has one in hand. I hope to get a chance to play with it by the end of next week.
As a few people know, I had the chance to play with the SGS2 and Skyrocket much prior to their release...and this guy was spot on with the release dates for those devices
I have posted this thread as a spot for all of you that seem interested in it to post questions about the device and I will do my best to test/eval/answer based on hands on experience with it.
so..whatcha want to know.
I will be trying to meet up with him next week.
00mred00 said:
My source called today to let me know he has one in hand. I hope to get a chance to play with it by the end of next week.
As a few people know, I had the chance to play with the SGS2 and Skyrocket much prior to their release...and this guy was spot on with the release dates for those devices
I have posted this thread as a spot for all of you that seem interested in it to post questions about the device and I will do my best to test/eval/answer based on hands on experience with it.
so..whatcha want to know.
I will be trying to meet up with him next week.
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release date
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release date
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Absolutely! And hardware specs.
Well of course
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just the low down lol
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yes sir if you get it in hands some side by side pics of the sr and Note would be great along with the date and specs of course.
but im really thinking of making the switch so someone actually having it in there hands with a skyrocket in the other can really give us a GOOD review.
no need to write a book or anything, just the basics would be nice.
and Thanks for the heads up.
Full retail price? Thanks.
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Price and Im sure it will have the Snapdragon proc... and possible ICS?
So what is the release date????
@ 00mred00
Once you get it - please dump the rom, put it on some file share, and let the good folks here at XDA root it and start cooking prior to release. CM9 alpha for euro Note with Exynos and HSPA+ only radio is already out there - once we get root it shouldn't take long to port that CM9 to this Snapdragon version with LTE radio.
defnow said:
Full retail price? Thanks.
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+1 for no commitment pricing and launch date!
Pm me on how to pull a system dump
In the past there were two things I absolutely was not allowed to do
1. Take pics (though I took them anyway)
2. Root the phone
Samsung employees have no idea on pricing guys...that is determined by att...so that one will remain unknown.
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@ 00mred00
Once you get it - please dump the rom, put it on some file share, and let the good folks here at XDA root it and start cooking prior to release. CM9 alpha for euro Note with Exynos and HSPA+ only radio is already out there - once we get root it shouldn't take long to port that CM9 to this Snapdragon version with LTE radio.
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00mred00 said:
Pm me on how to pull a system dump
In the past there were two things I absolutely was not allowed to do
1. Take pics (though I took them anyway)
2. Root the phone
Samsung employees have no idea on pricing guys...that is determined by att...so that one will remain unknown.
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I'm assuming you're on PC, not Mac or anything else. Go to folder, where you have ADB installed (once you install USB drivers for PC the folder will be created, usually something like C:\Program Files\Samsung Handset USB Driver) Then change directory in command prompt to that folder with ADB.exe folder and run:
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adb pull /system C:\system_dump
and then
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adb pull /data C:\data_dump
usually, dumping system and data folders are enough to root.
If you want to dump the whole phone for rom chefs to start cooking once rooted, do:
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adb pull / C:\full_dump
Dumping whole phone will take a while to complete. You may need to create those system_dump and data_dump folders or full_dump folder in the root of your C:\ drive - it depends on command prompt version you're using. Older Windows might need it, but not Vista or Win7.
Edit: some data in the /data folder will allow to uniquely identify the phone - it'll list IMEI and other things. Also, make sure not to have emails, where subject may contain personal info - emails wont be readable, but subject will be visible. If you're going to dump and share the whole phone - dont put personal stuff on sdcard or at least remove it, once the rom is dumped to your HDD
Edit2: corrected folder location bug in the instructions above
available?
Is this available for samsung galaxy tab 7.0? thanks
Already thinking of adding a 5th line just for the note. Lol
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@00mred00
Probably a release date would be the most beneficial. Anything more descriptive than Early 2012, or Q1 2012.
Although a long shot im hoping for the exynos 1.5ghz(4212 not 4210 which i know doesn't support LTE well) its been out for 7 months, and knowing samsung they like to keep it in house. Slim chance but still a chance!.
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Is this available for samsung galaxy tab 7.0? thanks
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did you really just ask that question? i mean....what does the galaxy tab have to do with the note lte?
krushin said:
@00mred00
Probably a release date would be the most beneficial. Anything more descriptive than Early 2012, or Q1 2012.
Although a long shot im hoping for the exynos 1.5ghz(4212 not 4210 which i know doesn't support LTE well) its been out for 7 months, and knowing samsung they like to keep it in house. Slim chance but still a chance!.
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Oh lawd, if it had the Exynos 4212... ojesus.
I'd be all over that thing.
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Oh lawd, if it had the Exynos 4212... ojesus.
I'd be all over that thing.
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On that "note" (haha no pun intended) if you could get a quadrant/benchmark of some sort we will know if its snapdragon or im super hoping but unlikely exynos 4212
krushin said:
On that "note" (haha no pun intended) if you could get a quadrant/benchmark of some sort we will know if its snapdragon or im super hoping but unlikely exynos 4212
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I always grab
Quadrant
Antutu
Linpack
Cfbench
Fps2d
With screenshots.
Should definitely be able to tell clock.speed but other than that I have never found a way to tell what exactly is inside
Any others?
Trying to set up a meeting this weekend. He is coming to Kuwait wedding reception on the 11th but given history with other devices this thing could hit as soon as this Sunday and no later than the 14th. (Based on previous in hand time)
Loncat, your local...if you want to be there let me know. We may do lunch at Twisted root or dinner at in and out etc.
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57373634-94/putting-the-transformer-prime-in-perspective/
In other words, it's not an issue with the device. Asus thinks it's fine. So it must be an issue with its owners. While he has a "manager" title, Gary must be further up the food chain than it would seem if he's granting interviews to national publications; especially with litigation pending.
No mentioning of bleeding, dead pixels, bright spots
"CNET: You say "the normal user [Wi-Fi] experience" is not adversely impacted by the unibody design. How exactly do you define the "normal user experience"?
GK: Normal user experience is that [the users are] using their tablet, streaming Netflix, or surfing the Web or other activities, and the tablet works. It does not matter if the maximum throughput is 36Mbps or 32Mbps as indicated by a benchmark program. If the user is not impacted and does not know if the tablet is 10 percent slower at 20 feet from their router, then I think the actual user experience is what matters the most."
In the end, Asus is happy with Prime's WIFI performance. So, if you travel as often as I do for work... goodluck being happy with your Prime's WIFI performance.
"But what about GPS? GPS on a tablet is obviously important to certain individuals, but since less than one percent have returned their Primes because of GPS problems, it must either prove, as the evidence supports, that the problem isn't that widespread or that most people just don't care.l"
I agree, most don't care about GPS. I doubt it made much difference in sales either...
However, the #s are skewed considering it didn't factor those who lost all trust in Asus, or simply are scared of RMA. This also ignores "returns" to retail vendors....
"We took the only step possible in this case and removed GPS from the official specifications shortly after the unit went on sale. We apologized for this inconvenience and offered to assist users who wanted to return the unit after the announcement.
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I haven't called their customer service in a while.. but.. does this mean they are now offering FULL refund (including shipping)?? And if so, since when did they start this program??
Ill commend you on this one. I ran out of thanks. Confirmed interview on Cnet. Great interview of Gary Key. He told it like it is. Plus more official confirmation that less than 1% of primes. Plus o want to rub this in Shinzz face. As proof its said firmwares will continue to come out to improve GPS although removed from spec. Overall a great interview on the Prime. We have official numbers from an official tech site. Prime is a success so far. The demand greatly exceeded their expectations and majority of users happy with it. Just like the polls here showed. No disputing anything now. Gary addressed the issues in interview. Then he also gave hard number statistics on return rate for each issue and overall.
SO PRIME IS ACTUALLY DOING VERY WELL RIGHT NOW. Great news to hear. Glad op linked this thread. Issues people experienced here in xda no where near as extensive as people thought...lmfao. take that Barry..lmfao. I love it.
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In other words, it's not an issue with the device. Asus thinks it's fine. So it must be an issue with its owners. While he has a "manager" title, Gary must be further up the food chain than it would seem if he's granting interviews to national publications; especially with litigation pending.
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Hahahahahahaha....lmfao whatcha got to say now buddy...like i said before, the numbers don't lie. Less than 1% failure/return rate and issues are not widespread at all. At least they are addressing the issues.
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Ill commend you on this one. I ran out of thanks. Confirmed interview on Cnet. Great interview of Gary Key. He told it like it is. Plus more official confirmation that less than 1% of primes. Plus o want to rub this in Shinzz face. As proof its said firmwares will continue to come out to improve GPS although removed from spec. Overall a great interview on the Prime. We have official numbers from an official tech site. Prime is a success so far. The demand greatly exceeded their expectations and majority of users happy with it. Just like the polls here showed. No disputing anything now. Gary addressed the issues in interview. Then he also gave hard number statistics on return rate for each issue and overall.
SO PRIME IS ACTUALLY DOING VERY WELL RIGHT NOW. Great news to hear. Glad op linked this thread. Issues people experienced here in xda no where near as extensive as people thought...lmfao. take that Barry..lmfao. I love it.
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"Even with the removal of GPS from the feature specifications, we are still working on aGPS optimizations with firmware updates that allow automatic downloading of LTO (Long Term Orbits) information. This can improve GPS lock speed and allow a certain level of functionality from the unit."
aGPS... not as GPS. I really don't care about aGPS. So.. NO.. you aren't seeing GPS firmware update.. but aGPS updates.
I will make sure to bookmark this link..expect me to be bringing it up in any and all debates doubting the Prime. Numbers are numbers. No one here is a statistics genius to doubt these numbers. Like I said before, xda is a grain of sand compared to world wide sales. Plus polls here easily reflect Gary statements.
HATE TO SAY IT BUT......I TOLD YA SO
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shinzz said:
"Even with the removal of GPS from the feature specifications, we are still working on aGPS optimizations with firmware updates that allow automatic downloading of LTO (Long Term Orbits) information. This can improve GPS lock speed and allow a certain level of functionality from the unit."
aGPS... not as GPS. I really don't care about aGPS. So.. NO.. you aren't seeing GPS firmware update.. but aGPS updates.
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Agps, GPS. Tomato tomatoes...whatever...GPS updates..lol
ALSO BARRY, the source was more relevant n important than you thought straight from the horses mouth I tell ya...lmfao
demandarin said:
I will make sure to bookmark this link..expect me to be bringing it up in any and all debates doubting the Prime. Numbers are numbers. No one here is a statistics genius to doubt these numbers. Like I said before, xda is a grain of sand compared to world wide sales. Plus polls here easily reflect Gary statements.
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Agps, GPS. Tomato tomatoes...whatever...GPS updates..lol
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No, it isn't Tomato tomatoes. There's a big difference in aGPS and GPS. Asus launched and advertised PRIME as GPS that's able to navigate.
Also, when Asus releases (if they do) #s with "returns" to retail vendors (because many.. if they were in their return window.. would opt to return to retail vendor instead of RMA) & the overall sale figure... I'll give them more credit.
Also, here's a brief explanation of LTO: http://www.broadcom.com/collateral/tb/LTO-TB100-R.pdf
Basically.. Asus is offering FIRMWARE update to tinker with GPSconfig (that we were able to do in HC & before the patch that basically turned GPS into aGPS).. all you need to do is go online, and collect the data every other day.
Shoot, that article is way too much kool-aide for demandarin to handle, slow down man....you got the whole weekend ahead of you.
Thanks for the link. Nice read.
Quotes from Gary..
We discovered that due to the all-aluminum unibody design structure, the GPS performance was not satisfactory for all users, especially those wanting to use the device as a true GPS and not in aGPS mode. We took the only step possible in this case and removed GPS from the official specifications shortly after the unit went on sale. We apologized for this inconvenience and offered to assist users who wanted to return the unit after the announcement.
Basically saying GPS will never function as a "true GPS" because of its aluminum backplate" All the more reason to MOD it. I have and now it works 100%. Others that do not want to MOD will be SOL.
"The second area of concern with users is the performance of the unit with Wi-Fi and BT enabled at the same time. For a very small minority of users, this combination resulted in signal dropouts or severely degraded wireless performance. We are still investigating the root cause of this problem with returned units, but it appears to be a random manufacturing process issue with properly attaching an antenna"
Hmmmm. This gets me thinking. My prime is moded and i have the antenna running out of the tablet and I still have the Bluetooth/WIFI fallout issue. I thought Broadcom chipset uses same antenna for Wifi / BT. Seems like he is saying this is a hardware issue that is fixed by properly attaching an antenna. Interesting.... My antenna is external and I still have problem.
I love my prime and besides the GPS I have NEVER had an issue. Guess I'm just a fan boy.
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micaman said:
Shoot, that article is way too much kool-aide for demandarin to handle, slow down man....you got the whole weekend ahead of you.
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You right...ill let it simmer in over the holiday weekend. I think they know the deal now. I love what that senior editor said at the end, Transformer Prime, despite the small number of reported issues, IS AN EXCELLENT TABLET. He also said some stuff about GPS I could repeat but I won't go there, YET...lol. I'm sure others will catch what he said n bring it to light. With this article I'm fully loaded and my trigger finger itching very badly. If I take off the safety it'll be a massacre in here. I don't want to see them go out like that. Ill be the bigger man n let them think on this one. Lovin it. I got infinite ammo with this one. Put all rumors or whatever to rest. MAY THE RUMORS R.I.P.
There's a lot to that interview.
I'm upset at the GPS fiasco but I got mine working with little tricks here and there however I would like to have a perm fix to get it working right without having to put my phone on the corner. *IF* anyone in the Houston area has opened their Prime and wouldn't mind opening mine, PM me! would like to test a few other things out.
Short of opening the damn thing or slapping a phone or paperclip over the corner, the only thing we can do is wait for Asus to come up with something. I sent Gary the link to the GPS working with phone thread in hopes maybe a simple addition to the Prime's internals or something would solve (or help solve) the GPS issue. I have 0 Wifi issue or known issue(s). Everything loads in good speed and streams well. 25 or 2.5, do you really notice a difference in Netflix? I currently have only a 4G connection (Clear for ya) where I am. Haven't gone with Comcast (uggg...) or DirectTv/Dish to get my internet connection and everything has been well. We're too involved in the speed where we should be more involved to does it work. I understand there are some that doesn't get any signal where they should and that's another issue Asus has to address but for now, for the most of us (even for those not on this board), it seems to be working just fine/satisfactory.
If we were to pick apart everything we have and want it "perfect", we're going to be arguing all day back and forth from Toyota's auto-accelerating pedal to Mercedes bio-degradable wiring harness to BMW's self-destructing cooling system to "Everything Mitsubishi makes" as to what to expect and what to do about it.
I got mine. it works 90%. I log in less than 8 hours a week on my laptop where it was more of a 24/7 thing for me. When I am on the go, I don't think about packing the laptop anymore; I just grab the Prime and go (sometimes with the keyboard and sometimes w.o) knowing 95% of the things I need/want to do is available.
Nothing is perfect but at least Asus has someone supporting us here. Can't say much for many manufactures out there; some wait for the lawsuit to go front page before doing anything about it.
While this "interview" is heavily weighted in GK's (ASUS's) favour ... (I suspect a good script writeup here), i do respect Garys input on the forums.
I cant remember EVER having a senior member of a company helping with queries etc on any forum i've ever been on before, and i'm very glad to see he's still here despite some of the witch hunt type threads and responses.
There have been teething probs with the prime and i think they are pretty much ironed out now (bar the GPS ...), firmware issues are easily sorted, and people shouldnt be so quick to join a witch hunt, fixes usually come quickly.
Anyway ... I'm a frustraited customer in the UK thats had to wait since december for a prime, I had a champagne but the keyboard dock was faulty, so still waiting on the replacement to come, My only gripe is the availability .. Pre-orders should give enough warning on how many to supply, IMO waiting over a month after launch isnt acceptible to still be waiting, i really hope asus learn from this.
It was a good bit of "Official Info" but I am concerend on a few points:
Gary says:
GK: Normal user experience is that [the users are] using their tablet, streaming Netflix, or surfing the Web or other activities, and the tablet works. It does not matter if the maximum throughput is 36Mbps or 32Mbps as indicated by a benchmark program. If the user is not impacted and does not know if the tablet is 10 percent slower at 20 feet from their router, then I think the actual user experience is what matters the most.
My experienece IS decent, and i agree, that is indeed what counts most, but 36 Mbps or 34 Mbps? I would give my left.. er arm for those kind of numbers. I see HALF thos on a brand spanking new Cisco E4200, tuned every which way from Sunday for the Prime, and my numbers don't drop 10% at distance, they drop 90%... Anyway, just sayin... those numbers ar way ambitious, for me anyway.
The other concern was he outright said: NO new hardware revision. Which is fine. And preferable in terms of supporting whats out there with less confusion. However it DOES open the point up that GARY'S TEAM MEMBER another SUPPORT MANAGER who I will be kind enough not to name, told me exactly the opposite, and specifically that the C1 he tested and sent me had different, revised hardware. Pisses me off to be lied to, no matter WHO is doing it. As I have often said, My Prime experience has beem mostly a positive one, I just sense BS from time to time. If Gary is telling the truth, then his organization is not. How is a person suppossed to feel good when that happens?
BTW, Same "SUPPORT MANAGER" who told me all about my new hardware revision? Said the C1 replacement I was getting would get GPS reception "as good as your TF101 ever did" I was so freaking happy to hear THAT! Too bad it never happenned. Not even in the same class. Sigh...
Final thought: article says this below the pic of location settings: "GPS works well when Wi-Fi can be used to augment its performance." It does? Not that I have ever seen. I think they menat LOCATION aware apps work BETTER when NOT using GPS but other means, cause GPS doesn't see a single satellite with aGPS info in my unit. I need to be OUTSIDE. And anytime I have seen sats it's ONLY with no wifi, out in the car away from home. sigh...
So while I would love to say I got a great feeling form all this "Official" data, I don't feel any better, or worse.... more of the same, sigh...
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Anyway ... I'm a frustraited customer in the UK thats had to wait since december for a prime, I had a champagne but the keyboard dock was faulty, so still waiting on the replacement to come, My only gripe is the availability .. Pre-orders should give enough warning on how many to supply, IMO waiting over a month after launch isnt acceptible to still be waiting, i really hope asus learn from this.
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I guess all the bad docks in the UK didn't add up to much "in percentages" but I personally saw a lot of reports. A shame really, that you had to buy as a pair/return as a pair, and couldn't keep the tablet at least. Hope you get your new baby fast.. Supply is still very constrained to my eye... Amazon in particular, something up with Asus/Amazon... I wonder what?
Its like he said in the interview, the demand for prime greatly exceeded their expectations. Meaning they didn't produce enough units to meet the high demand of the most prized Android tablet. So he said they are going tto aggressively ramp up production to meet demand. All makes sense as anyplace that carries prime is always sold out so fast. Best part of it all, to me, was the confirmation that Prime was not being replaced or discontinued and that they firmly believe in the high quality of Prime. So worries of it not being supported on long run was basically shot down by this interview. So many bits n pieces I'd love to bring up. Ill wait though. I see it scared away some people..lol
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Hahahahahahaha....lmfao whatcha got to say now buddy...like i said before, the numbers don't lie. Less than 1% failure/return rate and issues are not widespread at all. At least they are addressing the issues.
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The "glass half full" people will see this as validation. The "glass half empty" people will see it as propaganda. And this thread will once again be run up to God knows how many pages and stay on the front page for days/weeks. A devices success (or failure) isn't measured in weeks. Let's see how everyone feels a couple of months from now when Asus and other manufacturers have next-gen tablets out for a direct (not theoretical) comparison of both performance and quality. The great thing about forums is that individual posts are archived. So we'll be able to go back and see who was right and who was wrong as we've all proffered our speculations.
P.S. – A 1% failure rate is industry leading and difficult for even premium manufacturers like Sony and Samsung to achieve and maintain. Does this forum feel “industry leading” to you? Does it even feel like other tablet forums? And, if not, why do you think that is?
Knife cuts both ways
"The second area of concern with users is the performance of the unit with Wi-Fi and BT enabled at the same time. For a very small minority of users, this combination resulted in signal dropouts or severely degraded wireless performance. We are still investigating the root cause of this problem with returned units, but it appears to be a random manufacturing process issue with properly attaching an antenna"
So, does this mean that the Pogo pins don't attache well/properly or does it reference the Gap that Erusman found on the antenna PCB? Either way, it's open ended, since they are still out there.
Oh... and as I recall, all the reviewers BEFORE Prime shipped were stating the same conclusion: It's a great a tablet. Duh.
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P.S. – A 1% failure rate is industry leading and difficult for even premium manufacturers like Sony and Samsung to achieve and maintain. Does this forum feel “industry leading” to you? Does it even feel like other tablet forums? And, if not, why do you think that is?
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Good point. Ill have to get back @ you on that one. Been sipping on grandpa's cough medicine(you should know what that saying means)..lol.
I'm a nice guy. I know all of this is hard for you to swallow. Ill show good sportsmanship. Just like a football or basketball game. I'm blowing you out in the score now. If I continue, it'll only make me look bad and arrogant..lol and unnecessary. I'm interested in seeing what others have to say also once they catch wind of this. Which won't take long.
But on one note, Asus products n laptops are known as the most reliable or break down the least. I remember seeing several articles n stats proving that. Can it be actually so hard to believe the issues here not so widespread as we thought? Therefore following that less than 1% failure rate. No one is perfect. We all wrong sometimes. Just cave in now, Barry. Lol. Ill accept the defeat graciously. Never too late to switch. Switch sides now n ill forget all the previous stuff you said
Ah man..all this too funny. I love this forum. Including the trolls n haters.
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As SmartAs$Phone has pointed out, I wonder how Gary came up with:
CNET: You say "the normal user [Wi-Fi] experience" is not adversely impacted by the unibody design. How exactly do you define the "normal user experience"?
GK: Normal user experience is that [the users are] using their tablet, streaming Netflix, or surfing the Web or other activities, and the tablet works. It does not matter if the maximum throughput is 36Mbps or 32Mbps as indicated by a benchmark program. If the user is not impacted and does not know if the tablet is 10 percent slower at 20 feet from their router, then I think the actual user experience is what matters the most."
All this module does for now is restore the last seen time on your Tinder matches.
It currently works only with people you've matched with and not when you swipe.
Hopefully future versions will include more features.
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Tested on Tinder versions 4.4.4, 4.5.2 and 4.5.5.
Tested on KitKat and Lollipop.
26/03/16
Released version 1.0.2 that now supports KitKat as well.
Would love to hear suggestions, comments, bugs and positive / negative feedback.
And if you'd like to, buy me a beer (or a bottle of Chandon )
I been looking for something like this
Any Screenshots or anything? Proof that it works? Tinder version required and such? It doesn't work for myself so would like more info.
Confused..
I'm utterly confused... What purpose does this mod have?.. To show what? Why would you want your matches to know your on 24/7 ... Isn't that counter productive
yanowman said:
I'm utterly confused... What purpose does this mod have?.. To show what? Why would you want your matches to know your on 24/7 ... Isn't that counter productive
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I assumed it restored it for you to see when your matches were last on. Not letting yyou matches see your "last seen" but you see when they were on.
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I'm utterly confused... What purpose does this mod have?.. To show what? Why would you want your matches to know your on 24/7 ... Isn't that counter productive
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Up to version 4.3.5 of Tinder, you could have seen the time when your matches were last online.
This feature was removed on version 4.4.1 and forward. What this mod does is simply bring it back.
snowgod06 said:
Any Screenshots or anything? Proof that it works? Tinder version required and such? It doesn't work for myself so would like more info.
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It was tested on versions 4.4.4 and 4.5.2.
As I said in the top post, XDA won't let me link to the repo or post screenshots because I am a new user.
Just google TinderMods xposed and there is a screenshot on the repo website.
I tried this with 4.5.2. I can confirm it is working, although the format makes me do a double take. It's listed as 16/2/16...........instead of 2/16/16......and a 24hr time stamp.
In the US, usually we read dates as month/day/year, so if you are not used to reading the day/month/year, it'll take some getting used to. I've used Tinder since it first came out nearly 4 years ago, and have seen the app change quite a bit.
The OP can correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the OP's purpose for the last online time stamp is to determine when the person was last online so....in theory you can tell if they are ignoring you after you send a message, b/c if you sent it, then they were online, they likely saw it and are possibly ignoring you.
This is the reason why I think Tinder took away this option was b/c of it allows ppl to check messages without the scrutiny of giving the perception of ignoring the person LOL. Tbh, it's not an issue based on my experience (as a guy), b/c:
1. If the person likes you, they typically respond very quickly. That has been my experience.
2. If they person does not respond, they either are never online or are not interested so you are wasting your time anyway.
I can't seem to get it to activate. I installed the module, rebooted, and still no dice. I even tried reinstalling 4.5.2 but nothing.
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Up to version 4.3.5 of Tinder, you could have seen the time when your matches were last online.
This feature was removed on version 4.4.1 and forward. What this mod does is simply bring it back.
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Should make a poll asking "who cares/wants this feature"
I'd be very surprised if ppl cared. No offense brother. Always welcome dev
mikeprius said:
I tried this with 4.5.2. I can confirm it is working, although the format makes me do a double take. It's listed as 16/2/16...........instead of 2/16/16......and a 24hr time stamp.
In the US, usually we read dates as month/day/year, so if you are not used to reading the day/month/year, it'll take some getting used to. I've used Tinder since it first came out nearly 4 years ago, and have seen the app change quite a bit.
The OP can correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the OP's purpose for the last online time stamp is to determine when the person was last online so....in theory you can tell if they are ignoring you after you send a message, b/c if you sent it, then they were online, they likely saw it and are possibly ignoring you.
This is the reason why I think Tinder took away this option was b/c of it allows ppl to check messages without the scrutiny of giving the perception of ignoring the person LOL. Tbh, it's not an issue based on my experience (as a guy), b/c:
1. If the person likes you, they typically respond very quickly. That has been my experience.
2. If they person does not respond, they either are never online or are not interested so you are wasting your time anyway.
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Yeah you're right, I'm from Israel and that's how we read the dates here.
I'll localize the date format and upload a new version soon.
And you are absolutely right, that's one reason why one would want to use this module.
Fact is that's an issue that bothered me and I looked for a way around it and simply decided to share it with you all.
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I can't seem to get it to activate. I installed the module, rebooted, and still no dice. I even tried reinstalling 4.5.2 but nothing.
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Does Tinder function normally or do you encounter any issues with it?
Please be noticed, the timestamp is currently only shown on profiles of people you've matched with.
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Does Tinder function normally or do you encounter any issues with it?
Please be noticed, the timestamp is currently only shown on profiles of people you've matched with.
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No errors/FC or anything. I have a few ongoing conversations with matches right now, and if I select there profile there isn't a date anywhere to be seen. I've even done another install of the module to no avail.
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The OP can correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the OP's purpose for the last online time stamp is to determine when the person was last online so....in theory you can tell if they are ignoring you after you send a message, b/c if you sent it, then they were online, they likely saw it and are possibly ignoring you.
This is the reason why I think Tinder took away this option was b/c of it allows ppl to check messages without the scrutiny of giving the perception of ignoring the person LOL. Tbh, it's not an issue based on my experience (as a guy), b/c:
1. If the person likes you, they typically respond very quickly. That has been my experience.
2. If they person does not respond, they either are never online or are not interested so you are wasting your time anyway.
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If they picked you they were online at some point. That doesn't make sense. I'd rather women just unmatch if it's that they don't want to talk. Online dating is either a cheap thrill or stressful depending on your personality.
nadavrbn said:
Yeah you're right, I'm from Israel and that's how we read the dates here.
I'll localize the date format and upload a new version soon.
And you are absolutely right, that's one reason why one would want to use this module.
Fact is that's an issue that bothered me and I looked for a way around it and simply decided to share it with you all.
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Thanks for the mod. It is useful. As I said before I've seen the app change during the years. Before it used to also be much leaner, then the app seems to have progressively become more and more "bloaty"
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If they picked you they were online at some point. That doesn't make sense. I'd rather women just unmatch if it's that they don't want to talk. Online dating is either a cheap thrill or stressful depending on your personality.
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Sure that is true. Again, Tinder has changed a lot since I first started using it. In the US, Tinder is FULL of bots. They are profiles which send automated messages. This really took off around late 2014.
From when it first came out until, I'd say late 2014, Tinder was great. The app was lean, less bloat, no bots, and girls who were on there were worthwhile. You also had unlimited swipes, they didn't charge. Now (today), the app is heavy although gotten better, girls are on there are usually a waste of time, there is a limit on swipes, etc.......Usually most girls are just wasting time with it.....
yanowman said:
Should make a poll asking "who cares/wants this feature"
I'd be very surprised if ppl cared. No offense brother. Always welcome dev
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I don't understand why you are being so dismissive and negative towards the work the dev did. He made a module, and felt like sharing it.
As a matter of fact, I'm gonna go to the thread of all your Xposed modules, and I will..... Oh, wait. You haven't contributed any modules.
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I'm using tinder version 4.5.2 but I can't get the date to show either. I'm not sure if there are regional differences on the app, but just to be sure I say I use this in Finland.
I works very well for me, very nice mod!
destev said:
I'm using tinder version 4.5.2 but I can't get the date to show either. I'm not sure if there are regional differences on the app, but just to be sure I say I use this in Finland.
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No errors/FC or anything. I have a few ongoing conversations with matches right now, and if I select there profile there isn't a date anywhere to be seen. I've even done another install of the module to no avail.
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There is a new version out with better logs that should help me figure out how to solve the issues you are experiencing.
Please paste the logs relevant to this module in a CODE tag along with the version of Tinder you're using and I will examine them.
nadavrbn, can you add a donation link to the original post? I would love to support you work with a small financial contribution.
I am very sad to say it but I have cancelled my order. I just cant justify paying what this phone costs for something that wont even let me use Android Auto and keeps switching Google apps to Oppo even after setting Google apps as default. I will continue to lurk and hope for a day when we see this phone released with a Global version. Thanks to everyone for all your answers and feedback, it is appreciated.
Anyone want to buy an Oppo light Gray case…should be arriving at my door any day now
You’ve done the right thing. No matter what someone else tries to tell you about rotation apps or how the general experience isn’t a problem, I’m sorry, but it is. You just saved yourself a crap load of money and I’m happy for you.
Mine is going up on eBay UK tomorrow if anyone is interested
future3 said:
You’ve done the right thing. No matter what someone else tries to tell you about rotation apps or how the general experience isn’t a problem, I’m sorry, but it is. You just saved yourself a crap load of money and I’m happy for you.
Mine is going up on eBay UK tomorrow if anyone is interested
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It is interesting that you are active on this forum. This community is all about customizing devices, and making them do things they are not originally intended to do. If you come here, you will get recommendations on the same. For those that want a phone to just works, buy one from your carrier, for those that want to play with tech, and force it into submission, buy one that is not meant for your carrier, visit XDA, and get to work.
Also imapfsr has received the feedback they requested here, to include the recommendation to not buy the Find N.
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It is interesting that you are active on this forum. This community is all about customizing devices, and making them do things they are not originally intended to do. If you come here, you will get recommendations on the same. For those that want a phone to just works, buy one from your carrier, for those that want to play with tech, and force it into submission, buy one that is not meant for your carrier, visit XDA, and get to work.
Also imapfsr has received the feedback they requested here, to include the recommendation to not buy the Find N. View attachment 5507817
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Who says it’s about customisation? Do you make the rules? It’s nonsense to say ‘buy one from carrier’, what are you on about?
This person wants honest opinions, he does not want to waste over 1000 bucks for some person to say it works because they have downloaded an app on PlayStore to work around the devices limitations. Don’t worry he’ll wait for your analysis on Android Auto.
You say most of apps works, 99.999% would work fine, yeah OK….have you used every single one of PlayStores apps? Do you know every little UI issue on every single app? I doubt it.
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Who says it’s about customisation? Do you make the rules? It’s nonsense to say ‘buy one from carrier’, what are you on about?
This person wants honest opinions, he does not want to waste over 1000 bucks for some person to say it works because they have downloaded an app on PlayStore to work around the devices limitations. Don’t worry he’ll wait for your analysis on Android Auto.
You say most of apps works, 99.999% would work fine, yeah OK….have you used every single one of PlayStores apps? Do you know every little UI issue on every single app? I doubt it.
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For your first question... It's in the name "XDA-Developers", and if that is not enough it is in a statement on their home page.
Ask what you want, but if you are coming here to ask questions you should expect responses that include customizing. imapfsr was smart in coming here because they knew they did not want to do heavy customizations, and asked questions that lead to not buying the phone. You on the other hand seem mad that people are offering up solutions to these issues.
Last, if you want to quote me pay attention to context, it is important. My comment was this:
I said 99.9999% of apps would look fine in landscape mode, and to turn to portrait for the others. In a later post I offered to test specific apps for anyone that would like. This was in response to you complaining about the phone being in landscape by default.
Do you also complain about all the default portrait phones that force you to turn into landscape when you launch a game?
Admiral Oden said:
It is interesting that you are active on this forum. This community is all about customizing devices, and making them do things they are not originally intended to do. If you come here, you will get recommendations on the same. For those that want a phone to just works, buy one from your carrier, for those that want to play with tech, and force it into submission, buy one that is not meant for your carrier, visit XDA, and get to work.
Also imapfsr has received the feedback they requested here, to include the recommendation to not buy the Find N. View attachment 5507817
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Who says it’s about customisation? Do you make the rules? It’s nonsense to say ‘buy one from carrier’, what are you on about?
This person wants honest opinions, he does not want to waste over 1000 bucks for some person to say it works because they have downloaded an app on PlayStore to work around the devices limitations.
You say most of apps works, there’s 99.9999% would work fine, have you used of PlayStores apps? Do you know every little UI issue on every single app? I doubt it
Admiral Oden said:
For your first question... It's in the name "XDA-Developers", and if that is not enough it is in a statement on their home page.
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Ask what you want, but if you are coming here to ask questions you should expect responses that include customizing. imapfsr was smart in coming here because they knew they did not want to do heavy customizations, and asked questions that lead to not buying the phone. You on the other hand seem mad that people are offering up solutions to these issues.
Last, if you want to quote me pay attention to context, it is important. My comment was this:
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I said 99.9999% of apps would look fine in landscape mode, and to turn to portrait for the others. In a later post I offered to test specific apps for anyone that would like. This was in response to you complaining about the phone being in landscape by default.
Do you also complain about all the default portrait phones that force you to turn into landscape when you launch a game?
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99.9999% of apps would look fine in landscape.
Your argument about games makes no sense - most games force landscape mode, that’s just games - most other apps don’t force landscape mode and most people aren’t playing games most of of the time on their phones, so that’s awful comeback.
Context doesn’t make your argument any more relevant. You have no idea that this % amount of apps ‘look fine’, stop pretending you know more than you do. Also why would offer to test apps? Who on earth do you think you are? Please calm your ego. You are a nobody. No one’s care about you testing anything.
future3 said:
Who says it’s about customisation? Do you make the rules? It’s nonsense to say ‘buy one from carrier’, what are you on about?
This person wants honest opinions, he does not want to waste over 1000 bucks for some person to say it works because they have downloaded an app on PlayStore to work around the devices limitations.
You say most of apps works, there’s 99.9999% would work fine, have you used of PlayStores apps? Do you know every little UI issue on every single app? I doubt it
99.9999% of apps would look fine in landscape.
Your argument about games makes no sense - most games force landscape mode, that’s just games - most other apps don’t force landscape mode and most people aren’t playing games most of of the time on their phones, so that’s awful comeback.
Context doesn’t make your argument any more relevant. You have no idea that this % amount of apps ‘look fine’, stop pretending you know more than you do. Also why would offer to test apps? Who on earth do you think you are? Please calm your ego. You are a nobody. No one’s care about you testing anything.
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@future3 got a PM
Admiral Oden said:
It is interesting that you are active on this forum. This community is all about customizing devices, and making them do things they are not originally intended to do. If you come here, you will get recommendations on the same. For those that want a phone to just works, buy one from your carrier, for those that want to play with tech, and force it into submission, buy one that is not meant for your carrier, visit XDA, and get to work.
Also imapfsr has received the feedback they requested here, to include the recommendation to not buy the Find N. View attachment 5507817
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And I thank you for that as well sir!
Hey you guys, nothing this trivial is worth arguing over, we have enough garbage to deal with nowadays to not get pissed over this. I appreciate everyone's help and feedback for and against. I am just looking for everyone's honest opinion and I always get that here without question. As I have stated previously I have messed around with phones since the original Mi Mix but I am passed the stage of wanting to do that anymore, I just want my phone to work...who knows, global version maybe or late news is looking like maybe the Google Pipet might be Find N like so we will see. Ideally that would be perfect...a Google foldable in the flavor of the Find N with pure Android...yes please
Thanks again to everyone!
You have made a great choice. Great hardware, poor software with way too many irritations. I sold mine 2 days after getting it.
Good luck to those jumping off; but I've been using the Find N a week now, and very happy with it (Fold is going on sale shortly). It's just an all around better package with better trade offs (for me) than my Fold. Every phone has trade offs, and it is true there are some things that might not work yet (Android Auto) and some that are annoying (aggressive battery); but with the Fold the form factor is just not quite right (for me), and it always felt like a folded in half iPad Mini which doesn't fit comfortably in the pocket; where the outer screen is too tall and the keyboard too narrow such that the outer screen isn't very usable; and then the weight in the hand is unwieldy due to the length. I can understand if there are deal breakers for some (such as for those where Android Auto is a must have), but so far there aren't any for me.
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What do you mean with "(Fold is going on sale shortly)"?
Do you mean the Oppo find N going on sale soon?
Tahot said:
What do you mean with "(Fold is going on sale shortly)"?
Do you mean the Oppo find N going on sale soon?
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No, my Fold is going on sale because I'm keeping the Find N....
conceptgate said:
No, my Fold is going on sale because I'm keeping the Find N....
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Haha got it! enjoy it
All Samsung Fold's are even not close to this phone's build quality, if this phone came with global version than for the moment no any fold can be a competitor.
Don't get caught out, there's a number of these fakes circulating now. Please make sure even if it's a sealed phone you review my comparison of the packaging further down just to be sure. Even then to avoid being scammed always ask for the device to be opened to check first, don't meet in random locations and don't pay cash.
There's loads of these on Facebook now in and around the London area. I can see these becoming a really problem for those that don't look for the tell tail signs.
Do not be fooled into buying one of these devices off Facebook, gumtree etc it may be sealed but when you open up you'll have a dud by which point your seller will be long gone.
I tried searching the internet but found nothing relating to the IMEI or Serial number that's been used on the clone phones. Thought I'd post this help anyone check against that IMEI number.
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IMEI 1: 354484225250842
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See below screenshots from different sellers.
The box once opened you realise it is completely fake, one of the key differences being the s pen mounting location is not central, and towards the back of the device. The box to the untrained eye looks genuine the device is absolutely awful to use, rubbish cameras and the pen's rubbery texture means it hardly comes out. Don't be scammed.
Location of hole on genuine S23U is central as below:
To help spotting the differences I put the below image together, you'll note the rear and end sticker has white guide brackets on the genuine one but the fake doesn't have these.
Spot the difference on the packaging below:
Well that makes me genuinely curious as to what that device actually is
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Well that makes me genuinely curious as to what that device actually is
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It's a fake/clone s23u.
I saw few video , and it's very hard to spot. There's a S23u copy rightnow that is very convincing, and the youtuber indicate that if you don't own a samsung device or if you don't have a genuine s23u next to it to compare , it is very hard.
And this imply that you have the phone in your hand , powered up !
IMEI check is the safest way.
I dont trust reseller at all, especially when FB pop me up few S23U 256gb for 1000$ cad brand new... yeah.
I dont know your country, but here there's ZERO deal to do with providers. The lowest prices are the samsung official website prices. So why a random guy on internet would do a brand new phone 5-600$ cheaper?
** edit : the link is out already, Ive reported him
just for fun, the 1st click I spotted on FB : fake
- you can see a sensor on the top right corner that the real one dont have.
- you can see a rounded bezel , the S22/23 U got a square bezel.
- date on the phone is old
- registered in 2023
- asking 1300$ while its 1900$
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I don't know. The biggest giveaway is one of the boxes says FAKE on it in big red letters. Must be that honor among thieves thing. That should help to spot the fake one.
back in the days, around iphone 4 - 5 , copies were ''acceptable''.
1st most android were ok performance for the year, lasted 2-3 y before comming uber slow (not hyper powerful as today) , so copies were usable.
Also it was obvious.
And they were cheap.
It was more like a ''prank'' to friends, having the latest iphone when nobody can put their hands on, nor afford it.
Now the copies looks very convincing, but metidatek , allwinner , chipset are slow, but not enough to make it obvious when you rush to buy it.
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I don't know. The biggest giveaway is one of the boxes says FAKE on it in big red letters. Must be that honor among thieves thing. That should help to spot the fake one.
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would rather it was clear between the two otherwise I'd be getting asked questions to clarify.
Many moons ago got caught out with a fake Nokia n95 with the flip out qwerty if you remember it. Had to get carphone warehouse manager to write and confirm it was fake to PayPal.
These clones are geting more worse and now they even begun to copy IMEI off real phones. For example the fake clones of iphones have IMEI number from an actual iPhone. Just to make it look more real but once you take it to apple that's where they will tell you it is fake and not an actual iPhone. So idk if they started doing same on android phones by copying the IMEI from existing samsung phone or so.
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These clones are geting more worse and now they even begun to copy IMEI off real phones. For example the fake clones of iphones have IMEI number from an actual iPhone. Just to make it look more real but once you take it to apple that's where they will tell you it is fake and not an actual iPhone. So idk if they started doing same on android phones by copying the IMEI from existing samsung phone or so.
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Yes that's exactly what they are doing. When you check the imei on the fake device it shows as genuine which it clearly isn't. They are getting one step ahead just make sure you do your research before buying one of the fake phones. As they are very poor quality and not even worth £50.
Thanks for the thread, really useful information and highlighting an important issue as there are quite a few of these on sale on Facebook and gumtree.
So if the IMEI numbers on the box are copied from actual S23U's, how is the best way to check you are buying an real one - ? checking *#06# on the phone bring up the phones true IMEI number, and then checking that on an IMEI website be most accurate?
Kash said:
Thanks for the thread, really useful information and highlighting an important issue as there are quite a few of these on sale on Facebook and gumtree.
So if the IMEI numbers on the box are copied from actual S23U's, how is the best way to check you are buying an real one - ? checking *#06# on the phone bring up the phones true IMEI number, and then checking that on an IMEI website be most accurate?
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The best way to not get screwed is to not order on a website that doesn't force a return policy and allows the use of payment methods that don't guarantee your money. Use Swappa or eBay. You'll pay more but have buyer protection.
the big question is if we can find a solution to flash them a clean firmware or something
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the big question is if we can find a solution to flash them a clean firmware or something
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The entire point is that the hardware isn't the same. They're grabbing the cheapest hardware they can to simulate an S23 Ultra, selling it, and disappearing.
exactly, cheap hardware with bugs on gps, wifi and bluetooth connectivity.
Performance, depending of the fake model, expect not more than a galaxy 4 or 5 range. Usable, but very limited on more hungry apps.
camera wise, expect around galaxy S quality.
apparently, on higher end fake, battery is pretty good. no surprise when the phone is slow af.
You can also check if it's a fake by using the getprop command via adb, if for some reason you are not 100% is fake.
It will show the real specs of the device, along with some proprieties used to fake the device UI and such. Leaving the output of a S23 Ultra 5G fake
nitanmarcel said:
You can also check if it's a fake by using the getprop command via adb, if for some reason you are not 100% is fake.
It will show the real specs of the device, along with some proprieties used to fake the device UI and such. Leaving the output of a S23 Ultra 5G fake
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MediaTek 6582... Wow...
Mediatek MT6582 SoC
Benchmarks, information, and specifications for the Mediatek MT6582 CPU
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That's definitely not going to be a usable device with 1GB of RAM and 8GB of storage even before you take into account that awful chip...
Only purchase from reputable sources or dealers. Using Facebook Marketplace, Swappa or Craigslist is asking to get taken for a ride. If the seller won't accept a credit or debit card that's a big red flag.
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I don't know. The biggest giveaway is one of the boxes says FAKE on it in big red letters. Must be that honor among thieves thing. That should help to spot the fake one.
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For me the biggest giveaway of a fake phone is the LOW PRICE - $100s below the average FB price
If something seems too good to be true it usually IS
Also there are genuinely easy checks to make:-
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if their account is less than 12 months old
If their home town is more than 50 miles away from your search area (or if they live in a different country / different continent!)
If the profile has no image or no posts
Price is more than $100 below every other ad
If any of the above are true be suspicious
dezborders said:
For me the biggest giveaway of a fake phone is the LOW PRICE - $100s below the average FB price
If something seems too good to be true it usually IS
Also there are genuinely easy checks to make:-
View sellers profile ...
if their account is less than 12 months old
If their home town is more than 50 miles away from your search area (or if they live in a different country / different continent!)
If the profile has no image or no posts
Price is more than $100 below every other ad
If any of the above are true be suspicious
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Be aware, not everybody outside CONUS is suspicious