***UPDATE***
Hey Guys for new readers we have accomplished the following discoveries in this thread:
-Verified 128GB sd card works
-Verified Kingroot can root the device
-Verified straight talk works with this
-A firmware update was released that puts google play services and google play store on the phone
-The Battery has issues after 50%
-Linsk2SD works but some apps failed, and some apps act weird,I will update this post with link however my time is short today, Halloween parties!
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Good Evening!
I have never (or at least I think that's true) made a thread on here and this is my first time actually logging in other than making an account I've had for a little while. Anyways I ordered this much W3D gaming phone back in 2015 and it was cancelled and I was sad. But when I went back on aliexpress to order it again, I asked the same vendor that told me the company failed (I have that message screen capped lol) told me it was rush shipping over to the US. Fortunately for me I love throwing my money away, but this time I was in for a treat.
I. Love. This. Phone.
Now then, how do I help out this awesome community with the phone? How can I help rip it and copy it online so you guys can play with the software and packages? It's a very bare-bones version of 4.4.1 and has a ton of added features you would see in xposed. Like it seamlessly converted my 128gb mico sd card to it's main internal storage and I didn't do anything! I best of all unlike 6.0 the sd card is totally free and accessible from windows explorer. Unfortunately I have only had it for a short while and haven't tested everything yet. Also I'm sorry if this is the wrong place like I said I've never posted before
Hey Gatekeeper,
Your not the only silent fan of the snail W3d device, I have been waiting for updates and ordered the device myself ... I'm glad to hear that your enjoying it. Keep the fans updated with your personal review of the device.
1.) how does it handle graphic intensive Android games? ... my only fear is that the mobile GPU is slightly outdated.
2.) How does it handle emulators?
3.) Is there any exclusive games in the built-in snail mobile app store?
Thanks for sharing.
So, this is where the silent fans of the phone are meeting. Any updates about the device will be highly appreciated. Also, if you are having an issue with Google Play Store. There is an International firmware released for the phone that installs in. You can find the firmware on OPENYOUREYES SHOP website.
Nice pic collage by the way!
I am really excited about this phone as well and will be most likely picking one up myself. I did want to ask to see if anyone knew what options there as far as cases for this phone.
anthonylp25 said:
I am really excited about this phone as well and will be most likely picking one up myself. I did want to ask to see if anyone knew what options there as far as cases for this phone.
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None at all officially. You'll have to improvise. I currently own the Snail W1 (W3D Predecessor) and I use a PSP Vita foam pouch to carry it. Not much for protecting it, but it keeps the body free from scratches while in my pocket.
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The_Gatekeeper_ said:
Good Evening!
I have never (or at least I think that's true) made a thread on here and this is my first time actually logging in other than making an account I've had for a little while. Anyways I ordered this much W3D gaming phone back in 2015 and it was cancelled and I was sad. But when I went back on aliexpress to order it again, I asked the same vendor that told me the company failed (I have that message screen capped lol) told me it was rush shipping over to the US. Fortunately for me I love throwing my money away, but this time I was in for a treat.
I. Love. This. Phone.
Now then, how do I help out this awesome community with the phone? How can I help rip it and copy it online so you guys can play with the software and packages? It's a very bare-bones version of 4.4.1 and has a ton of added features you would see in xposed. Like it seamlessly converted my 128gb mico sd card to it's main internal storage and I didn't do anything! I best of all unlike 6.0 the sd card is totally free and accessible from windows explorer. Unfortunately I have only had it for a short while and haven't tested everything yet. Also I'm sorry if this is the wrong place like I said I've never posted before
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By the way, GATEKEEPER. you stated that the phone seamlessly converted your 128 GB card to internal storage. I have some questions for you. There have been concerns involving SD Card usage with the phone. Are you able to move apps and games to the SD CARD?
What brand of 128 Micro SD Card are you using? (SCANDISK, SAMSUNG, etc) What's the Class? (CLASS 4, 6, 10, etc). These specs will greatly assist since I have heard different reports.
Also, do you have a backup of the original firmware 4.4.1 that came with the phone? The device specs describe the phone has 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 installed?
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
I have this phone by 2 weeks and for me it's awesome. I must admit it has many flaws, but despite everything I love this phone.
After 2 weeks I can say this:
PROS
- Awesome screen
- Great 3d effect. Awesome in some videos
- Awesome buttons and analogs. (Maybe L and R buttons are difficult to press)
- Nice materials
- It's a great smarthphone. Signal and wifi are very good (I'm in Italy)
- Great Performance. Runs at full speed:
- psx (fpse)
- nds (Drastic)
- dreamcast (I recommend Reicast less-video-stuttering build, because google play version its bugged and slower)
- psp (PPSSPP)
- gba (Retroarch gpsp)
- MAME (Retroarch mame 0.174 with all 2d games works great. 3d games need frameskip)
- FBA (Retroarch fba. CPS3, CPS2, CPS1, Neo Geo, Psikyo, Cave, PGM ecc...)
- DOS (Retroarch DOSBOX. I have Shadow Warrior and Blood at full speed. It takes a lot of time to set keys but after that are great games to play in this device )
- All other old consoles that their games can work also in my fridge
This for emulators. Android games that i have (All runs at full speed with all buttons mapped without problems):
- Dead Effect
- Dead Trigger 1 and 2
- Return to castle Wolfestein 4 android
- Doom 3 4 android
(What android game i can try for benchmarks?)
CONS
- Long. I can put it in most of my pockets but for someone can be uncomfortable
- L2 and R2 are not recognized by apps and from snail touch screen mapper.
- Some apps like Retroarch see left and right part of buttons as 2 different gamepads. I can solve this problem with snail mapper but it's annoyng
- Snail Launcher crashes every time. I had to install Nova Launcher
- Micro SD permissions problem. To install some apps (mame4android, doom3 4 android for example) i had to unmount the micro sd. Sometimes I can't save photos with the micro sd mounted. (Someone know how to resolve this problem?)
- Battery. The battery it's unstable. I can play 3 hours and the battery go to 100% to 50% but after 50% the battery go to 25% in 5 minutes. Maybe i only have to calibrate the battery. If i use only phone functionality, battery life is 2-3 days.
- Price. I paid 400€ and I think since the delay of the release and the old hardware, snail have to lower the price.
In conclusion I recommend this phone because it's a unique device and I'm sure that if you like emulators, you'll love it.
The problems that I listed, apart from the size, in my opinion can be solved by firmware updates, or with the custom roms.
I hope I was helpful. Sorry for the English.
bigpillincaman said:
I have this phone by 2 weeks and for me it's awesome. I must admit it has many flaws, but despite everything I love this phone.
After 2 weeks I can say this:
PROS
- Awesome screen
- Great 3d effect. Awesome in some videos
- Awesome buttons and analogs. (Maybe L and R buttons are difficult to press)
- Nice materials
- It's a great smarthphone. Signal and wifi are very good (I'm in Italy)
- Great Performance. Runs at full speed:
- psx (fpse)
- nds (Drastic)
- dreamcast (I recommend Reicast less-video-stuttering build, because google play version its bugged and slower)
- psp (PPSSPP)
- gba (Retroarch gpsp)
- MAME (Retroarch mame 0.174 with all 2d games works great. 3d games need frameskip)
- FBA (Retroarch fba. CPS3, CPS2, CPS1, Neo Geo, Psikyo, Cave, PGM ecc...)
- DOS (Retroarch DOSBOX. I have Shadow Warrior and Blood at full speed. It takes a lot of time to set keys but after that are great games to play in this device )
- All other old consoles that their games can work also in my fridge
This for emulators. Android games that i have (All runs at full speed with all buttons mapped without problems):
- Dead Effect
- Dead Trigger 1 and 2
- Return to castle Wolfestein 4 android
- Doom 3 4 android
(What android game i can try for benchmarks?)
CONS
- Long. I can put it in most of my pockets but for someone can be uncomfortable
- L2 and R2 are not recognized by apps and from snail touch screen mapper.
- Some apps like Retroarch see left and right part of buttons as 2 different gamepads. I can solve this problem with snail mapper but it's annoyng
- Snail Launcher crashes every time. I had to install Nova Launcher
- Micro SD permissions problem. To install some apps (mame4android, doom3 4 android for example) i had to unmount the micro sd. Sometimes I can't save photos with the micro sd mounted. (Someone know how to resolve this problem?)
- Battery. The battery it's unstable. I can play 3 hours and the battery go to 100% to 50% but after 50% the battery go to 25% in 5 minutes. Maybe i only have to calibrate the battery. If i use only phone functionality, battery life is 2-3 days.
- Price. I paid 400€ and I think since the delay of the release and the old hardware, snail have to lower the price.
In conclusion I recommend this phone because it's a unique device and I'm sure that if you like emulators, you'll love it.
The problems that I listed, apart from the size, in my opinion can be solved by firmware updates, or with the custom roms.
I hope I was helpful. Sorry for the English.
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What's the model number for the battery? I'm wondering if you can purchase another and have one pre charged since you can easily take the back off.
Yes I think that i can buy a new battery but maybe i found the problem. I see that micro sd scanner has removed 30% of battery
I discovered that Retroarch download all thumbnails (boxart,title screens and screenshots) for every platform game! I was thinking that download only thumbnails for game that i have. So I had 10 000 images in my micro sd and media scanner every time I changed files in micro sd, did a new scan. Now i have put .nomedia file in retroarch thumbnails folder and disabled media scanner with adb.
I hope that the problem was that for the battery.
For micro sd permissions i see that is a kit kat problem, so i make changes to permissions.xml and now the camera works every time but I can't install yet mame4android and other apps that want to access to the sd card with the sd card mounted.
bigpillincaman said:
I have this phone by 2 weeks and for me it's awesome. I must admit it has many flaws, but despite everything I love this phone.
After 2 weeks I can say this:
PROS
- Awesome screen
- Great 3d effect. Awesome in some videos
- Awesome buttons and analogs. (Maybe L and R buttons are difficult to press)
- Nice materials
- It's a great smarthphone. Signal and wifi are very good (I'm in Italy)
- Great Performance. Runs at full speed:
- psx (fpse)
- nds (Drastic)
- dreamcast (I recommend Reicast less-video-stuttering build, because google play version its bugged and slower)
- psp (PPSSPP)
- gba (Retroarch gpsp)
- MAME (Retroarch mame 0.174 with all 2d games works great. 3d games need frameskip)
- FBA (Retroarch fba. CPS3, CPS2, CPS1, Neo Geo, Psikyo, Cave, PGM ecc...)
- DOS (Retroarch DOSBOX. I have Shadow Warrior and Blood at full speed. It takes a lot of time to set keys but after that are great games to play in this device )
- All other old consoles that their games can work also in my fridge
This for emulators. Android games that i have (All runs at full speed with all buttons mapped without problems):
- Dead Effect
- Dead Trigger 1 and 2
- Return to castle Wolfestein 4 android
- Doom 3 4 android
(What android game i can try for benchmarks?)
CONS
- Long. I can put it in most of my pockets but for someone can be uncomfortable
- L2 and R2 are not recognized by apps and from snail touch screen mapper.
- Some apps like Retroarch see left and right part of buttons as 2 different gamepads. I can solve this problem with snail mapper but it's annoyng
- Snail Launcher crashes every time. I had to install Nova Launcher
- Micro SD permissions problem. To install some apps (mame4android, doom3 4 android for example) i had to unmount the micro sd. Sometimes I can't save photos with the micro sd mounted. (Someone know how to resolve this problem?)
- Battery. The battery it's unstable. I can play 3 hours and the battery go to 100% to 50% but after 50% the battery go to 25% in 5 minutes. Maybe i only have to calibrate the battery. If i use only phone functionality, battery life is 2-3 days.
- Price. I paid 400€ and I think since the delay of the release and the old hardware, snail have to lower the price.
In conclusion I recommend this phone because it's a unique device and I'm sure that if you like emulators, you'll love it.
The problems that I listed, apart from the size, in my opinion can be solved by firmware updates, or with the custom roms.
I hope I was helpful. Sorry for the English.
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Yep, very helpful, many Thanks! Did you buy from OPENYOUREYES SHOP?
From what I have heard, the Pros and Cons are very consistent. There are many apps that can more than likely keep the battery optimized. Greenify seems to be one of the most popular, but there are many others. See what works best for you. I found one place that sells the battery, but I am unsure how to order from there. Check TAOBAOFOCUS.COM. Search for the phone, and you will see the battery along with it. I checked with the Aliexpress reseller, but he doesn't have extra batteries for it.
I may also ask OPENYOUREYES Shop and see if they plan to sell the batteries.
As for the mapper, I would suggest using Tincore Mapper. It will map all buttons, and also give you extra mapping abilities, like mapping the d-pad on King of Fighters instead of the analog stick. It does have a bit of a learning curve, but it's worth it. I use it on the Snail W1.
As for the SD Card, still trying to figure that one out. I don't yet have the W3D, so I'm not able to try some things. Hopefully, there's some trick to getting it to work, which is why I am hoping The Gatekeeper responds. It may only work best with certain card speeds and classes.
bigpillincaman said:
I have this phone by 2 weeks and for me it's awesome. I must admit it has many flaws, but despite everything I love this phone.
After 2 weeks I can say this:
PROS
- Awesome screen
- Great 3d effect. Awesome in some videos
- Awesome buttons and analogs. (Maybe L and R buttons are difficult to press)
- Nice materials
- It's a great smarthphone. Signal and wifi are very good (I'm in Italy)
- Great Performance. Runs at full speed:
- psx (fpse)
- nds (Drastic)
- dreamcast (I recommend Reicast less-video-stuttering build, because google play version its bugged and slower)
- psp (PPSSPP)
- gba (Retroarch gpsp)
- MAME (Retroarch mame 0.174 with all 2d games works great. 3d games need frameskip)
- FBA (Retroarch fba. CPS3, CPS2, CPS1, Neo Geo, Psikyo, Cave, PGM ecc...)
- DOS (Retroarch DOSBOX. I have Shadow Warrior and Blood at full speed. It takes a lot of time to set keys but after that are great games to play in this device )
- All other old consoles that their games can work also in my fridge
This for emulators. Android games that i have (All runs at full speed with all buttons mapped without problems):
- Dead Effect
- Dead Trigger 1 and 2
- Return to castle Wolfestein 4 android
- Doom 3 4 android
(What android game i can try for benchmarks?)
CONS
- Long. I can put it in most of my pockets but for someone can be uncomfortable
- L2 and R2 are not recognized by apps and from snail touch screen mapper.
- Some apps like Retroarch see left and right part of buttons as 2 different gamepads. I can solve this problem with snail mapper but it's annoyng
- Snail Launcher crashes every time. I had to install Nova Launcher
- Micro SD permissions problem. To install some apps (mame4android, doom3 4 android for example) i had to unmount the micro sd. Sometimes I can't save photos with the micro sd mounted. (Someone know how to resolve this problem?)
- Battery. The battery it's unstable. I can play 3 hours and the battery go to 100% to 50% but after 50% the battery go to 25% in 5 minutes. Maybe i only have to calibrate the battery. If i use only phone functionality, battery life is 2-3 days.
- Price. I paid 400€ and I think since the delay of the release and the old hardware, snail have to lower the price.
In conclusion I recommend this phone because it's a unique device and I'm sure that if you like emulators, you'll love it.
The problems that I listed, apart from the size, in my opinion can be solved by firmware updates, or with the custom roms.
I hope I was helpful. Sorry for the English.
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Also wanted to ask, are you in the US? What carrier are you using? How is the coverage? What numbers are you getting on speed tests?
DroidX2 said:
Yep, very helpful, many Thanks! Did you buy from OPENYOUREYES SHOP?
From what I have heard, the Pros and Cons are very consistent. There are many apps that can more than likely keep the battery optimized. Greenify seems to be one of the most popular, but there are many others. See what works best for you. I found one place that sells the battery, but I am unsure how to order from there. Check TAOBAOFOCUS.COM. Search for the phone, and you will see the battery along with it. I checked with the Aliexpress reseller, but he doesn't have extra batteries for it.
I may also ask OPENYOUREYES Shop and see if they plan to sell the batteries.
As for the mapper, I would suggest using Tincore Mapper. It will map all buttons, and also give you extra mapping abilities, like mapping the d-pad on King of Fighters instead of the analog stick. It does have a bit of a learning curve, but it's worth it. I use it on the Snail W1.
As for the SD Card, still trying to figure that one out. I don't yet have the W3D, so I'm not able to try some things. Hopefully, there's some trick to getting it to work, which is why I am hoping The Gatekeeper responds. It may only work best with certain card speeds and classes.
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Thanks for your suggestions. Yes, i bought it on OPENYOUREYES Shop
anthonylp25 said:
Also wanted to ask, are you in the US? What carrier are you using? How is the coverage? What numbers are you getting on speed tests?
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I'm in Italy. Here the phone works very well. I had no problem with the GPS.
I haven't done benchmarks. Which app do you recommend to test the speed?
bigpillincaman said:
Thanks for your suggestions. Yes, i bought it on OPENYOUREYES Shop
I'm in Italy. Here the phone works very well. I had no problem with the GPS.
I haven't done benchmarks. Which app do you recommend to test the speed?
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For your benchmarks can you use Antutu and for speed test can you use Ookla
Hey guys I have been using a Straight Talk sim card and it makes calls and data works great. I had to activate the sim card online and manually change the mobile network settings, but after a few reboots it was working great! And honestly for a long phone it doesn't feel too awkward when making calls.
I appreciate all the feedback and it fills me with joy knowing other people have had a chance to use it as well. I plan on making a few youtube videos that covers a general overview of the phone and then the fun stuff like a compilation of emulators and of course game stream while in downtown atlanta on cellular and wifi.
oh and sorry guys but to answer your questions regarding the games install on internal or SD I still have yet to install the play store with that firmware and plan to do that tonight. Under settings there is a storage option that allows me to pick which is the default write disk, as the menu is titled. From there I select the SD card and it has been filled up ever since. I have installed apk's via sideload and I don't see the "true" internal storage space depleting after I did that. Now I still see some apps installed there. I want to see if in the future we will be able to use links2sd since that's what my xperia play uses for it's folder redirection.
I'll be answering questions soon gents so stay tuned.
DroidX2 said:
By the way, GATEKEEPER. you stated that the phone seamlessly converted your 128 GB card to internal storage. I have some questions for you. There have been concerns involving SD Card usage with the phone. Are you able to move apps and games to the SD CARD?
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I will take a picture of the settings menu and explain in more detail what I meant by that. It appears we can change the default write disk to the SD card, which is what I guess it asked me as a pop up when I put an sd card in it for the first time. Like I said previously this does NOT lock down your sd card, and in fact this phone offers three different computer connection methods either as a storage device, or as MTP, or for photos, along with charge only function.
And for your second question it appears that some apps downloaded were placed in internal storage and I could not move them :\ I did get my phone's firmware updated with the google play store (awesome!! thanks guys for the recommendation for that! I saw the video but wasn't sure if it applied to me) and I attempted to root it, and I think it worked. I will now test links2sd and see if that helps with the internal storage part without needing to unlock bootloaders and get too messy with extra work.
What brand of 128 Micro SD Card are you using? (SCANDISK, SAMSUNG, etc) What's the Class? (CLASS 4, 6, 10, etc). These specs will greatly assist since I have heard different reports.
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This is exactly what I purchased:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G26R7LA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Also, do you have a backup of the original firmware 4.4.1 that came with the phone? The device specs describe the phone has 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 installed?
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
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Sorry but I do not
***Quick Update!***
I installed links2SD and so far all but youtube moved to the SD card, making my internal storage from 9 to 11.27 free space. I tested the google play store and services since those are major apps that got moved and it works fine!
The_Gatekeeper_ said:
I will take a picture of the settings menu and explain in more detail what I meant by that. It appears we can change the default write disk to the SD card, which is what I guess it asked me as a pop up when I put an sd card in it for the first time. Like I said previously this does NOT lock down your sd card, and in fact this phone offers three different computer connection methods either as a storage device, or as MTP, or for photos, along with charge only function.
And for your second question it appears that some apps downloaded were placed in internal storage and I could not move them :\ I did get my phone's firmware updated with the google play store (awesome!! thanks guys for the recommendation for that! I saw the video but wasn't sure if it applied to me) and I attempted to root it, and I think it worked. I will now test links2sd and see if that helps with the internal storage part without needing to unlock bootloaders and get too messy with extra work.
This is exactly what I purchased:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G26R7LA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Sorry but I do not
***Quick Update!***
I installed links2SD and so far all but youtube moved to the SD card, making my internal storage from 9 to 11.27 free space. I tested the google play store and services since those are major apps that got moved and it works fine!
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Awesome! Thanks for the update! This also confirms that 128 GB cards work in the device. Link2SD was a Godsend for the Xperia Play. When I first bought it in 2011, I ran out of space within the first week.
You can verify your root with Root Checker. If not, I used Kingo Root to root my 78p01 device, so it should work for the W3D as well. The downfall to using Kingo is that it needs to be installed on your PC, and it installs some battery app on the phone and lockscreen that I think is tied to the superuser app that's installed. The root works fine, but after the root is installed, you would want to install another superuser app to grant permissions, as to get rid of the battery app tied to the Kingo superuser app and delete it.
I am currently using AT&T with my 78P01 and they are stating that my IMEI is classifying the phone as 2G only, and as such, I have been only getting 2G, where I used to get 3G, even 3G+. Not sure what happened between now and a few months ago, but must have something to do with their 2G shutdown. I may grab a Straight Talk Sim for a month and see if that changes things. Thanks for the confirm on Network. That had me concerned as well.
I look forward to any more updates you may have.
DroidX2 said:
Awesome! Thanks for the update! This also confirms that 128 GB cards work in the device. Link2SD was a Godsend for the Xperia Play. When I first bought it in 2011, I ran out of space within the first week.
You can verify your root with Root Checker. If not, I used Kingo Root to root my 78p01 device, so it should work for the W3D as well. The downfall to using Kingo is that it needs to be installed on your PC, and it installs some battery app on the phone and lockscreen that I think is tied to the superuser app that's installed. The root works fine, but after the root is installed, you would want to install another superuser app to grant permissions, as to get rid of the battery app tied to the Kingo superuser app and delete it.
I am currently using AT&T with my 78P01 and they are stating that my IMEI is classifying the phone as 2G only, and as such, I have been only getting 2G, where I used to get 3G, even 3G+. Not sure what happened between now and a few months ago, but must have something to do with their 2G shutdown. I may grab a Straight Talk Sim for a month and see if that changes things. Thanks for the confirm on Network. That had me concerned as well.
I look forward to any more updates you may have.
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Hey guys I wanted to also add some truth to my claims and add a few pictures, for clarity purposes. I took a picture of the straight talk sim card in the back of the phone, along with the sd card. Then I took a picture of the speedtest to show you that, albeit it's not very fast 4G, it does achieve speeds that still allows gamestream to play at the minimum settings. I'm around wifi and hotspots all the time but sometimes in sushi bars I just use the data. I forgot to add but I added the storage settings of the phone, notice the "default write disk" and the options to select the sd card and internal storage.
I used kingroot to root the phone, and installed rootchecker to verify root. All seems pretty jive!
The_Gatekeeper_ said:
Hey guys I wanted to also add some truth to my claims and add a few pictures, for clarity purposes. I took a picture of the straight talk sim card in the back of the phone, along with the sd card. Then I took a picture of the speedtest to show you that, albeit it's not very fast 4G, it does achieve speeds that still allows gamestream to play at the minimum settings. I'm around wifi and hotspots all the time but sometimes in sushi bars I just use the data. I forgot to add but I added the storage settings of the phone, notice the "default write disk" and the options to select the sd card and internal storage.
I used kingroot to root the phone, and installed rootchecker to verify root. All seems pretty jive!
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Sweet! I missed the Straight Talk Sim in the pic, lol! I read your post and had to re-check it, but I saw it. Those 4G speeds are like heaven compared to what I am getting now. Heck, I will be happy to just have a decent connection since I am only getting one band of 2G at the moment:crying:
Thanks for the update as always!
The_Gatekeeper_ said:
Hey guys I wanted to also add some truth to my claims and add a few pictures, for clarity purposes. I took a picture of the straight talk sim card in the back of the phone, along with the sd card. Then I took a picture of the speedtest to show you that, albeit it's not very fast 4G, it does achieve speeds that still allows gamestream to play at the minimum settings. I'm around wifi and hotspots all the time but sometimes in sushi bars I just use the data. I forgot to add but I added the storage settings of the phone, notice the "default write disk" and the options to select the sd card and internal storage.
I used kingroot to root the phone, and installed rootchecker to verify root. All seems pretty jive!
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I'm pretty excited mine was just shipped out and I'm ready to get it in my hands. Would any one mind doing an Antutu benchmark on the device. And also does it come with NFC?
The_Gatekeeper_ said:
Hey guys I wanted to also add some truth to my claims and add a few pictures, for clarity purposes. I took a picture of the straight talk sim card in the back of the phone, along with the sd card. Then I took a picture of the speedtest to show you that, albeit it's not very fast 4G, it does achieve speeds that still allows gamestream to play at the minimum settings. I'm around wifi and hotspots all the time but sometimes in sushi bars I just use the data. I forgot to add but I added the storage settings of the phone, notice the "default write disk" and the options to select the sd card and internal storage.
I used kingroot to root the phone, and installed rootchecker to verify root. All seems pretty jive!
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Hi,
I did the test with my W3D. It isn't a little too low the result of Antutu? For now I haven't found Android games that give me problems.
The biggest problem remains the battery. After the 50% drops too quickly.
You have this problem with your W3d?
anthonylp25 said:
I'm pretty excited mine was just shipped out and I'm ready to get it in my hands. Would any one mind doing an Antutu benchmark on the device. And also does it come with NFC?
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Sure thing give me a few minutes and I'll post results! Oh wait looks like I was beaten lol.
Hi,
I did the test with my W3D. It isn't a little too low the result of Antutu? For now I haven't found Android games that give me problems.
The biggest problem remains the battery. After the 50% drops too quickly.
You have this problem with your W3d?
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Honestly I think I do too, but I have kept it charge above 80 since it sits at my desk charging most of the time. When I take it out and let it chill in the car the battery runs out much faster than it should. Maybe there are settings we need to disable on the phone? I also don't think it has an nfc, I'll have to look at the specs again but I don't see it as an option in settings if there is supposed to be one.
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Wow, now I remember why I dont buy sony products. Whoever decided to make the sd card slot usless should get a tab up side the head.
Sd card: useless compared to non crippled slots
Micro usb? really? thats the best you could cram into a tablet this size... fail
No hdmi? major fail
The charger is the worst piece of crap I have ever seen
Bravo sony, you wanted to create a tablet that you had to cut by 100$ and a tablet that is crippled and missing its leggs.
Even some 7inch tabs have hdmi, full size usb and a charger that doesnt sound like metal teeth being snapped.
As for power and gpu, my samsung galaxy NOTE gt-N7000 runs circles around this failure.
If you love it, good for you, I require more.
Rant over
First of all, of course you galaxy note runs circles around it. It's clocked at 1.4ghz vs the sony s's 1ghz. Not really sure what your basis for the claims of the GPU performance are.. they should be fairly similar though, so if the Galaxy Note does indeed outperform it then your right that it's pretty crappy of Sony.
I agree with you for most of the other parts though. Can't really justify the need for downsizing the USB port when it's such a large case up there. Hell they could have fit two there! HDMI would have been great, but there are plenty that don't have it on the market, at least this one offers DLNA. I don't have a problem with the charger.. seems to me that it would be much, much more durable than the micro USB's android phones ahve been strapping.
Plus some people pay hundreds for a universal remote, and this has one with great form and function. Like anything it has it's pro's and cons.
The two things that stung me about it that got me after purchase is the SDcard storage thingo, and lack of support from gameloft :\.
But hey, could be worse and just not have an SD card slot like some do. Now that is a fail.
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First of all, of course you galaxy note runs circles around it. It's clocked at 1.4ghz vs the sony s's 1ghz. Not really sure what your basis for the claims of the GPU performance are.. they should be fairly similar though, so if the Galaxy Note does indeed outperform it then your right that it's pretty crappy of Sony.
I agree with you for most of the other parts though. Can't really justify the need for downsizing the USB port when it's such a large case up there. Hell they could have fit two there! HDMI would have been great, but there are plenty that don't have it on the market, at least this one offers DLNA. I don't have a problem with the charger.. seems to me that it would be much, much more durable than the micro USB's android phones ahve been strapping.
Plus some people pay hundreds for a universal remote, and this has one with great form and function. Like anything it has it's pro's and cons.
The two things that stung me about it that got me after purchase is the SDcard storage thingo, and lack of support from gameloft :\.
But hey, could be worse and just not have an SD card slot like some do. Now that is a fail.
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The gpu plays as big a roll as the cpu in terms of render. I had a 154$ tablet that used an all winner cortex9 with a mali-400 gpu and it destroys the sony tablet. Of course at 154$ it had a ****ty 7inch screen. After my iphone 4 and 4s, i cant go back to hiddeous pixel screens. I found the perfect middle ground in my Samsung Note. It has the muscle to back up its amazing screen.
BTW, that cheap tablet with the amazing cpu/gpu had hdmi, usb and a micro sdhc slot. Its the now gone Ainol Novo 7 Advanced (not the the basic model).
I must say, the sony tablet screen look terrible compared to my Note but if i hold it far enough away, the pixels dont jump out at me as much.
Mind you its apples to oranges because the Note's display is an ips super amoled with an almost retina ppi.
I called sony today to pass on my thoughts. They sound ignorant. Their sales reflect that. Maybe if they drop it another 100$ people will stop returning it when the insert their sd card and haul the charger out of the box with a tractor.
The card works fine with any 3rd party app quickpic mx player etc thanks for playing technical genius
Who uses stock apps anyway
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The card works fine with any 3rd party app quickpic mx player etc thanks for playing technical genius
Who uses stock apps anyway
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Bitterness ages a face ;-)
Oh, and try to download a movie on your sony tablet directly to you sd card.... oh right, crippled
Regarding the "crippled" SD Card slot, as far as I can tell its only crippled with Sony apps. If you use any standard Android app the SD card slot is fully usable and accessible. I've got a 32 gig sd card in there and have no problem playing videos/music/open files directly off it. No speed issues or anything. I never transfer anything...
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Regarding the "crippled" SD Card slot, as far as I can tell its only crippled with Sony apps. If you use any standard Android app the SD card slot is fully usable and accessible. I've got a 32 gig sd card in there and have no problem playing videos/music/open files directly off it. No speed issues or anything. I never transfer anything...
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Nowhere did I refer to playback. Try to download natively to your sd card with your tablet. Crippled. Playback is useless if you cant get the media on the card in the first place. Maybe run out and buy a real tablet to do the muscle work and use the sony for the pansy playback?
Did Sony kill your parents? Good Lord, let it go. You don't like the Tablet S, but a lot of us do. Who cares? Don't buy it! I like PS3 controller compatibility and universal remote features. They build different tablets for a reason, just like how they make different phones, different TVs, furniture, cars, ice cream flavors, etc...
You can use dolphin browser ( and many other browser ) to download file into sd card directly.
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Did Sony kill your parents? Good Lord, let it go. You don't like the Tablet S, but a lot of us do. Who cares? Don't buy it! I like PS3 controller compatibility and universal remote features. They build different tablets for a reason, just like how they make different phones, different TVs, furniture, cars, ice cream flavors, etc...
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Yeah, because you've never bought something ad ranted. I always love the holier than thou type.
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You can use dolphin browser ( and many other browser ) to download file into sd card directly.
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Yes thank you. Too bad dolphin crashes on my sony tab and it only downloads certain things. I download movies and stuff on my samsung note with torrent apps. Sony s will only download to its own memory. But thanks
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Yes thank you. Too bad dolphin crashes on my sony tab and it only downloads certain things. I download movies and stuff on my samsung note with torrent apps. Sony s will only download to its own memory. But thanks
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Sell your sony and use your samsung if is better than a workstation.
Sony s runs android, so " Sony s will only download to its own memory " is a meaningless phrase.
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Sell your sony and use your samsung if is better than a workstation.
Sony s runs android, so " Sony s will only download to its own memory " is a meaningless phrase.
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Anything I say will be meaningless to you for the simple fact that you are limited to your own opinion. I however dont get frustrated when other people are not acting as my clone.
"Sony s runs android"?? do you think my more capable Note runs windows 7??Obviously they both use android.
On most tablets and my Note, "I" decide where my downloads go ie to the units memory or to the memory card I have installed. Sony s makes that choice for you. Its not my opinion, its a fact. Kinda runs in the face of what android lovers seem to hold so dear... "freedom".
I may sell my crippled tablet for a capable one, or just give it to my 5 year old nephew to play with.
I will pick up a galaxy tab, as far as I can see, looks better.
Dont hate on people, life is too short ;-)
lifes too short to go moaning on a forum about a problem thats arguable negligible to most usage scenarios, then writing snarky 'witticisms'.
your really need more hobbies if you're resorting to torrenting on tablets and complaining about not being able to do so on one model.... (who the heck does that?!!).
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Anything I say will be meaningless to you for the simple fact that you are limited to your own opinion. I however dont get frustrated when other people are not acting as my clone.
"Sony s runs android"?? do you think my more capable Note runs windows 7??Obviously they both use android.
On most tablets and my Note, "I" decide where my downloads go ie to the units memory or to the memory card I have installed. Sony s makes that choice for you. Its not my opinion, its a fact. Kinda runs in the face of what android lovers seem to hold so dear... "freedom".
I may sell my crippled tablet for a capable one, or just give it to my 5 year old nephew to play with.
I will pick up a galaxy tab, as far as I can see, looks better.
Dont hate on people, life is too short ;-)
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you are crazy boy.
He's only making points that have been made time and time again by most of you, just he's not willing to just accept it and be happy with the tab. No real reason for everyone to start flaming
It's very true that sony has imposed too much of there own influence. Not only that, but made it so there is currently no possible way to root it and make the changes we want done.
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Exactly, I would write the same.
I Don't understand this kind of posts, what helps? We need to improve the usability of this tablet until the root is not available...
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He's only making points that have been made time and time again by most of you, just he's not willing to just accept it and be happy with the tab. No real reason for everyone to start flaming
It's very true that sony has imposed too much of there own influence. Not only that, but made it so there is currently no possible way to root it and make the changes we want done.
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Thanks for being helpful. I knew i wasnt the only person to ever complain here about the sd problem. I wasnt harping on it, simply replying to people who took the time to talk with me about it.
I too look forward to a root and i hope that the sd problem is software not hardeware and that sony might wake up to at least match 150$ tablets in that regard.
Im not a fan of honeycomb so ics would be nice. Cheers
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Exactly, I would write the same.
I Don't understand this kind of posts, what helps? We need to improve the usability of this tablet until the root is not available...
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My 3rd party apps that download video or music content are restricted to the 16GB internal. There is zero way to make anything go to the sd card because the tablet treats the sd card as if it wasnt even there. The only thing the tablet can do is transfer files to and from the sd card.. Period.
As for dolphin, what would you download with that?
On a side note.. you can download with atorrent and specify the the destination can't you? The only problem I had with it was wifi going into sleep mode.. so I was pretty dissapoinnted to wake up and find it only downloaded 1.2%. lol.
Basically I knew what I was buying hardware wise when I bought it - aside from the creaks I discovered later. Then was massively let down software wise due to the restrictions.
I feel asthough if we got it rooted, we could just rename sdcard1 to sdcar2, and vice versa. Hopefully such a switcharoo would work and then it would continue on as it has, but with much more memory there .
It's going to be a real shame if Sony's take on ICS leaves us in the same boat, can't be rooted, can't be downgraded, and then someone discovers a root for HC
Hello everyone,
I have received my CDS CD1000 phone. Looks and works great but sadly I noticed that it does not come with the Play Store installed. Also it's not rooted. Does anyone know of available information about this phone about custom roms, rooting and installing the Play Store?
Here a link to a site with some general info: http://www.gizchina.com/2012/09/06/galaxy-s3-clone-mtk6577-with-45-inch-hd-retina-display/
Would love to hear others opinions and findings about this phone.
Thanks for reading.
G64
Hi G64,
for rooting you should try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
The latest version of the script can be found in the first posting. Bin4ry did excellent work here. It should work on most MTK6577 phones and worked for my B92M which has Android 4.0.4 and MTK6577, and I heard from a lot people with MTK6577 that it worked for them too.
After rooting you should be able to install the Play store by yourself with the help of ES File explorer and PhoneSky.apk (the latter one is the Play store) - just google for it, there are quite a lot tutorials for this task around the net, e.g. here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582422
The tutorial implies that there is already an unmodded version of the Play store installed in the phone, maybe it works anyway. But be sure to rename the Vendig.apk to Phonesky.apk before installing, as told in page 2 of the link above.
I am interested in the phone, too, so please be so kind and answer to the following questions:
1) does it have dual sim support? Your link says only one sim is supported.
2.) battery size in mAH?
3.) does it really have (about) 1 GB RAM?
4.) does it really have 1.2 GHZ?
5.) could you please tell me the AnTuTu benchmark score?
Thank you very much.
Hi asskicker,
Sorry to get back a little late. I don`t have the phone here atm. Do you know perhaps if i can install that Play Store thing on a NOT rooted phone ? Because the most important is the Play Store.
I`ll try to answer your questions here:
1) does it have dual sim support? Your link says only one sim is supported.
- It has 2 SIM slots
2.) battery size in mAH?
- Battery says 2100mAH
3.) does it really have (about) 1 GB RAM?
- I can`t install Apps a normal because it lacks Play Store at this moment (for Antutu).
4.) does it really have 1.2 GHZ?
- I can`t install Apps a normal because it lacks Play Store at this moment (for Antutu)
5.) could you please tell me the AnTuTu benchmark score?
- I can`t install Apps a normal because it lacks Play Store at this moment (for Antutu)
When i can install the Play Store i am happy to post the questions ant further. But i need to have the phone first so i can try the Play Store install.
But if you know that the Play Store installer can also be used without Rooting than it might be quicker to have the info.
BR
Hi G64,
thank you for the answer.
I am pretty sure that it will not work to install the Play Store without rooting the phone. But rooting is really easy if you follow the link in my post.
About the RAM: Android will tell you the free & used amount of RAM if you go to settings -> apps -> active tab. The two values will tell you the complete amount of RAM installed.
@GaMeR64 - Did You root'ed phone success or not?
I'm very interresting answer for @asskicker question 3, 4 and 5
Unfortunatly no. People can't miss their phones for like 5 minutes these days
Do you know if GPS works ok?
hello , i have this item about 4 weeks and its real fine
all works great , better build and hardware quality as the star b92m or my umi x1 ( No GPS on this devices , and netwok suppot real poor )
this thing for moment price round 170 $ , is the best alternative on dual sim sector ... which have MTK 6577 :good:
i ordered here : http://www.aliexpress.com/item/4-5i...core-1GB-4GB-Dual-camera-5-0MP/668733010.html
really good seller , but others have the phone cheaper at the moment .
sorry for my english
greetings
@dynamo4ever - why CPU freq on screen max is 667MHz??? antutu result test with this freq?
How long phone work on full charged battery?
Some new (and proofed) informations about the phone. I'm very interested in this phone.
I've just ordered one from here:
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181036120686
£117.86 GBP.
The ebay advert says it's Dual Sim and judging by an earlier poster's screenshots it supports two sim cards as the notification area shows wifi + mobile reception + airplane mode (for the other sim).
I was about to go for a Star B92, but I'm hoping this phone works out better as it has 1GB ram instead of 512MB and better GPS.
If someone could post a step-by-step guide on how to root and install the play store app that would be awesome.
Thanks!
This phone goes by another name Chigon A720. I think those who are interested can find more info searching for Chigon A720 as there seems to be a russian community owning this phone
Mine finally arrived today. However I forgot to order micro sim -> sim adapters so have been unable to test the phone side of things.
It seems pretty fast, the 3d graphics are not great but for non-gaming use it's great. The screen is clear,nice and bright. Good resolution.
The touch screen works well to, better than i was expecting, no problems typing on it at all.
The phone is definately DUAL SIM as there has been some confusion. The two sim card slots are on top of each other.
The GPS works great, I just went snowboarding and used alpine replay to record my tracks with both my Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and the CDS CD1000 / Chigon A720 and the results are very similar. Neither device lost GPS position. Out of the box the GPS took almost no-time to get a fix.
The speaker seems OK, music was listenable to, but suffers from the usual lack of bass as every phone I've ever had has done, no suprise there.
I made a call using Skype and CSipSimple and the person on the other end could hear me just fine.
My regular 3.5mm headphones fitted without issue.
The wifi and bluetooth worked just fine, i could connect to my home router and pair with my other devices quickly and easily.
The device came with Android 4.0.4 and had the Play Store already installed along with AppCloud, a chinese app store. I disabled the latter without issue.
Everything I've run on it so far has worked perfectly.
Very happy with it so far, total bargain for the money - however bear in mind i've not tested the dual sim functionality yet. I will post again once i've had the chance to test it.
hi;
my phone arrived last night. I have a problem. my phone's flashlight is very weak. it does not take any photographs in the dark. Even the display light is better than flashlight. there are no images in the darkness. all of the cd1000 are the same or my phone is defective? can I improve light intensity with any programs. how can I fix or repair? if I take a new flashlight led, have be compatible with the phone? does it work? Is there someone who can help? sorry for my bad english.
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Just following up on this thread now I've had the phone for a while.
Had no issues with the phones, it's still working great. I have installed a french SFR and a UK GiffGaff SIM card in the phone, one card in each slot. The dual sim functionality works great. Both sim cards are on-air all the time.
The battery life is great. I leave wifi and 2g/3g on all day and it's fine.
It also survived an accidental drop onto a wodden floor from hand-height just fine with no scratches to the casing.
Overall I'm still very impressed by the device. It's a total bargain.
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Hi all,
i have the phone here now and have tried to get GApps installed but i can`t get it fixed. I have also installed the latest PlayStore but that immediatly quits when opened. For this i found we need the GoogleFramework that is inside GApps. But how do i install this ?
I also found a guide that said to extract all the *.apk`s from the downloaded gapps zip and then copying them to the device and then manually install them. Doesn`t work. It just says: App not installed.
Do we need Clockwork Recovery Mod to get into recovery or is there also a "Normal" Recovery ? I tried to get in recovery mode with Power button + Volume down but then i enter Factory Mode (not recovery mode) and this has no options to install something from Zip (which Recovery Mode should have i read somewhere).
Hopefully someone here can point me in the right direction.
BR
hello everyone
now everything is ok play store and syncronisation agenda ......etc ...i have the same phone cdscd1000......
all you have to do is to put chigon a720 rom.....here you are the link
http://vondroid.com/threads/chigon-a720-f-a-q-firmware-imei-language-tools-guides.2320/
hello
i am interested in buying this phone but i am scared the display is not good enought
is it IPS and how are the watching angles ? does it invert colors when tilted a lot ? and how is the brightness ? bright enough?
also i see on aliexpress that the battery is 2100mah but the chigon a720 says 1700mah
which one to believe ?
answer as soon as possible
thanks
the phone is very good....it is a good bargain rapport quality/price....the display is very good 1280 hd...touchscreen very dmooth and well responding.... assure you that the battery is 2100 ma..
hassibiyoussef said:
the phone is very good....it is a good bargain rapport quality/price....the display is very good 1280 hd...touchscreen very dmooth and well responding.... assure you that the battery is 2100 ma..
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their official site doesn't exist anymore
are they producing this phone anymore
and there is no Jellybean for this device as i have checked
i was thinking to buy Zte V970 MTK6577 which has lower resolution and battery but comes from popular manufacturer and it has Jellybean ports already
This is a new 2048x1536 clone from Best Buy. It has Rockchip RK3288 processor with a Broadcom BCM4350 WiFi AC/BT4.0/FM radio. It came with Android 5.0.1. As usual from the Chinese, the SW leaves much to be desired. In fact the Regulatory Information page is for the N9. It went the FCC as MID7802 and pictures and user manual are post there. I grabbed one for $150. I was interested since it supports HEVC/H.265. It plays them flawlessly. It scored 785 on AnTuTu video test v3.0. The speed test was 38005. Screen looks good. Now for the bad.
1. Won't turn on when off and charger connected.
2. Adaptive brightness doesn't use the control. Really bright and drains battery.
3. SDcard only accessible for stock apps. ES3 or Kodi can't see it. Probably mounted root only.
4. Camera app is really primitive. No option to record as HEVC even though HW encoding supported.
Any thoughts on this tablet and how easy or hard it would be to get a good ROM on it?
Hmm, the bad looks like stuff that could be fixed with a software update. Though I've yet to see an adaptive brightness option that was any good. I almost always adjust manually. I never really use camera functions on my tablets. The part where it won't turn on while charging is a bit disturbing though.
Battery drains while screen sleeps like crazy
decent tab
I managed to pick the flex elite 7.85" tablet up @ my local Best Buy yesterday for a discounted price of only $90 and so far very happy with it for the cost. Not sure I would be so happy at the full $150...maybe so though.
Battery life isn't the greatest even with a good battery saving app. Doesn't bother me to much though because I usually have my tabs plugged into the wall outlet.
Some things I like are the beautiful display and greatly bright lighting, makes it easy to use outside or in. Also like the quick responsiveness and sensitive touch screen. It's not so sensitive that you're accidentally hitting things you don't want to but plenty sensitive to pick up on the intentional hits. I like the thin style (only 0.3" thin, I think). Although it's plastic it feels solid and higher end in the hands. All in all it's just a decent tab for the average user...although maybe not so much for the enthusiast.
A couple things I don't like are that there are no accessories available for it at all. I'm rough on electronics (drop alot) and a good, solid case is near necessity for me. Still ticked off about dropping my Sero 7 PRO and killing it last year...man, was that ever a nice tab?!
Another thing I am a bit disenchanted with is no root instruction yet available and no ROM that I know of...been searching and hoping. I also read somewhere that it's not possible to write to the micro SD card from the tablet...if true, that really sucks! Though I rarely use a micro SD card with tabs, it's nice to be able to use them to keep onboard space freed up. I still need to buy a micro SD to test this last statement for myself, so can't guarantee the accuracy of the statement.
Anyway, decent tab that will probably fulfill my web browsing, shopping and WordPress needs for the next year so can't complain for a $90 investment. I don't expect any updates to the firmware over it's lifetime and really not to hopeful for a root instructional to be written but still pretty decent out of the box so far....I'll let you know about the possible microsd issue once I find out for myself.
OK, so I found out that the microsd card is difficult to get mounted and working correctly on this tablet (unfortunately I'm no geek). But I was finally able to use an app to xfer files after formatting the SD card to ntsf instead of fat32. Still a pita but got it working.
Now if only someone would make an easy root instructional for this thing I might actually keep it for a while
Alrighty, got one of these and so far it's been good for its price.
I can turn it off and on while charging, both sleep/wake and full power off/power on.
The brightness seems fine to me, but again I've not used adaptive as I've never had a tab with a worthwhile adaptive brightness, and I've had Nexus 7 and 9, Galaxy Tabs pro and S, and a half dozen others.
Getting an SD later today for it.
Battery life isn't great, but I'm not seeing the sleep drain I keep reading about.
As has been mentioned the SD is only visible to system apps. Unless you format it NTFS, then it can be found by other apps. Need to figure out how to make shortcuts/symbolic links so it can be reached from areas other than /mnt as I think some apps expect it to show up in the storage folder and other places.
It's fast and snappy. Display is crisp & nice and bright and is the perfect size. I too am seeing unexpected battery drain overnight (losing 50% of battery) while the tablet is sleeping. I wish the battery lasted longer on standby as my needs are to read to fall asleep and then wake up and study - the Tab A has a longer lasting battery than this. Takes a long time to boot up if it's entirely shut down. It refuses to run Netflix either in the Netflix app nor in the browser. I have all the latest updates of the OS plus Netflix but it's not working. It's a shame but I am today returning it to BestBuy due to the Netflix issue which I consider a core app. WINS: Display is awesome and CPU speed is very good! CONS: Won't play Netflix, battery life is weak, takes long to boot up.
still no sign of 4rd party rooms?
in the market for something to replace my POS dell 8 tablet. can anyone say how insignia is on updates? will this get 6?
Oma has made a rom for it at arctablet.com
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Oma has made a rom for it at arctablet.com
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link?
cannot post links.
google 'insignia flex elite oma root'
should be top result.
Got to page 4, post 49.
micro sdcard should be formatted ntfs
i just bought this tablet used
i think my rom is hosed, it has a system process kill at startup and it is very laggy. it also shuts down is left to sleep for more then 5min. a factory reset doesnt change anything... but ive seen this before... nothing short of a full rom wipe fixes it. that's the real danger of chinese tablets, if you hose the os there is no way to fix it...
im trying to root it and put oma rom on it, to see if that fixes the software issues. i dont think its hardware, because once im in a game or app it runs lightning quick. even games like mortal kombat with their high end graphics run smooth... its really somethin on this screen.
boot time SUCKS on this tablet. like, 4min or something. what the hell insignia? you cant optimize this rom even a little bit?
I like the tablet. I have seen several software updates (didn't check the build numbers) before I flashed Oma's ROM. It still has a long boot time, but if you go to the developer options, and turn off the animation options, it feels pretty fast (definitely faster than anything that is even close to this price range). Oma's current rom doesn't fix the Netflix app issue. Maybe an update can figure out what the conflict is?
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I like the tablet. I have seen several software updates (didn't check the build numbers) before I flashed Oma's ROM. It still has a long boot time, but if you go to the developer options, and turn off the animation options, it feels pretty fast (definitely faster than anything that is even close to this price range). Oma's current rom doesn't fix the Netflix app issue. Maybe an update can figure out what the conflict is?
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I just got one yesterday. I didn't update to the December update, but I flashed oma's rom (pretty sure I did?), rooted with king root and then replaced with super su and the boot up time is much much faster than stock. I want to say less than a minute vs. close to 3 or 4 before.
I bought two of these used off eBay, both seem to suffer from sound stutter/slight freeze ups once in awhile. I've reset both and made sure they are running the current OTA update.
It seems to mostly do it for Youtube and YouTube for Kids, but notice it once in awhile during some more graphic intense games. Which surprises me as from the specs at least this should be a pretty decent budget tablet.
I just picked up a "seller refurbished" on from Ebay -- there are a *ton* of them up there at the moment. It actually looks pretty decent. The battery life is *horrible* (about 4 hours of SOT for reading or web surfing), but the rest of the flaws can be worked around.
First off was setting the window animations to zero, as suggested here earlier, followed by KingRoot and SU substitution (also as suggested). Then, from the Store:
- SDFix:KitKat Writable MicroSD and
- Folder Mount
combined to let me store app data on the microSD.
- FlashFire did a great job of installing Xposed Framework and from there I can tweak to my hearts' content (Greenify, GravityBox, and XSSID Indicator so far)!
Right now, it looks like your best bet would be Oma's rom that someone mentioned earlier, which would be rooted and let you do some customization. I don't use KingRoot because there's some report that the software collects data on you without your consent. What with all the rumors about Xiaomi snooping on you and China's officially-sanctioned practices in cyber space, you don't want to assume unnecessary risks. Bad enough that Uncle Sam is looking over your shoulder, but China?? Do the math!
Back to the matter at hand. Looks like your tab will be stuck with Lollipop forever (1) because the sales of this model is low enough not to stimulate any interest in developing custom roms; (2) manufacturer's support is non-existent (I mean literally non-existent); (3) if you get a representative to answer, the person doesn't know enough to say anything beyond what's in the manual; and (4) they categorically refuse to release even a stock rom for the user to restore where the tab is bricked by their own OTA updates!!! What sets them apart is that I know of no other reputable manufacturer that would so adamantly oppose such potential remedies. Unbelievable! The only recourse is warranty - which means if you're outside that period, you're toast, even if the hardware is in perfectly working order.
To recap, absolutely no support and no update. Promulgating a policy that drives away consumers is of course their prerogative, but why they care so much about losing business is beyond me. So think hard before shelling out for their products. Low prices and enticing specs ain't worth crap if the tablet doesn't work at all.
It's strange that I feel I don't have most of the discussed problems in this forum. But let me tell you my reasons, why I decided to return the Poco F1.
1. Buggy microphone: the hands free mode has huge problems. There seems to be an unfixed problem with the internal microphones which makes it impossible to have understandable conversations in hands free mode (Skype, WhatsApp). This problem also occurs in the internal voice recording app in interview mode. This probably will be fixed in future versions, but as by now (9.6.14.0, European version) it just doesn't work and I need that function almost every day.
2. The MicroSD slot doesn't help much if I can't allocate the card to the internal drive. I have an ultra fast U3 SanDisk extreme card with 128 GB, but I can't merge it with the internal drive. Some would say: who cares? Just use it as an external card, whats the point? But just think of losing your phone and someone else has access to all your data on the memory card. Allocating the MicroSD to the internal drive encrypts everything on the card. I do understand the arguments of the manufacturer (speed issues because of fricking slow crappy sd cards), but I don't understand, why they won't leave that function open to experienced users (e.g. within the developers menu).
3. Can't get rid of Google Apps. I don't need and want certain Google Apps, but I can't disable them. I am not even asking for uninstalling, I just want to disable them, but Xiaomi won't let me. It just feels that I don't have control over the phone.
4. The rounded corners are strange: when watching a video you have one side with rounded corners, the other one with, well, normal corners.
5. The task switcher is a step backwards. I was used to switch between apps very quickly using the vertical task switcher. The task switcher on the Poco F1 works horizontally. Seriously? Phones are becoming longer and longer, not wider. I need much more time to switch between apps because I simply don't have a good overview of the open apps.
6. No HD-Streaming on Netflix and Prime.
7. Bad frequency coverage. Check the specs and compare them to your former phone (I used phonearena). I was shocked when I saw that the Poco F1 has really bad coverage of the available frequencies. I travel to Hong Kong and Japan a couple times a year and use local SIM cards. But looking at the very few supported frequencies, I am afraid I won't have a good reception anymore.
Remark: I have had the Poco F1 for about a week and will return it to the shop. I had a Moto G5 Plus before and will switch back to it again. I am aware of that certain points might not be bugging for some people. I consider myself as an experienced user which some major requirements about functions of a smartphone. If a phone doesn't match most of these requirements, I consider it as crap. This has nothing to do with the manufacturer. Ah, and I don't like custom roms. I went through that stuff so many years and spend so many weekends on that. I am not willing to spend my leisure time anymore trying out new roms because something is always not working well.
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It's strange that I feel I don't have most of the discussed problems in this forum. But let me tell you my reasons, why I decided to return the Poco F1.
1. Buggy microphone: the hands free mode has huge problems. There seems to be an unfixed problem with the internal microphones which makes it impossible to have understandable conversations in hands free mode (Skype, WhatsApp). This problem also occurs in the internal voice recording app in interview mode. This probably will be fixed in future versions, but as by now (9.6.14.0, European version) it just doesn't work and I need that function almost every day.
2. The MicroSD slot doesn't help much if I can't allocate the card to the internal drive. I have an ultra fast U3 SanDisk extreme card with 128 GB, but I can't merge it with the internal drive. Some would say: who cares? Just use it as an external card, whats the point? But just think of losing your phone and someone else has access to all your data on the memory card. Allocating the MicroSD to the internal drive encrypts everything on the card. I do understand the arguments of the manufacturer (speed issues because of fricking slow crappy sd cards), but I don't understand, why they won't leave that function open to experienced users (e.g. within the developers menu).
3. Can't get rid of Google Apps. I don't need and want certain Google Apps, but I can't disable them. I am not even asking for uninstalling, I just want to disable them, but Xiaomi won't let me. It just feels that I don't have control over the phone.
4. The rounded corners are strange: when watching a video you have one side with rounded corners, the other one with, well, normal corners.
5. The task switcher is a step backwards. I was used to switch between apps very quickly using the vertical task switcher. The task switcher on the Poco F1 works horizontally. Seriously? Phones are becoming longer and longer, not wider. I need much more time to switch between apps because I simply don't have a good overview of the open apps.
6. No HD-Streaming on Netflix and Prime.
7. Bad frequency coverage. Check the specs and compare them to your former phone (I used phonearena). I was shocked when I saw that the Poco F1 has really bad coverage of the available frequencies. I travel to Hong Kong and Japan a couple times a year and use local SIM cards. But looking at the very few supported frequencies, I am afraid I won't have a good reception anymore.
Remark: I have had the Poco F1 for about a week and will return it to the shop. I had a Moto G5 Plus before and will switch back to it again. I am aware of that certain points might not be bugging for some people. I consider myself as an experienced user which some major requirements about functions of a smartphone. If a phone doesn't match most of these requirements, I consider it as crap. This has nothing to do with the manufacturer. Ah, and I don't like custom roms. I went through that stuff so many years and spend so many weekends on that. I am not willing to spend my leisure time anymore trying out new roms because something is always not working well.
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Most of the stuff you mentioned are related to MIUI and can be fixed by flashing a stock rom ( custom) which will be available soon. For notch, you've to deal with it as most of the upcoming phones including Moto One includes Notch. Give credit to Apple for this stupid notch. I'm used to it as my main phone is iPhone X so I've been using notch phone from a long time now. Yes, rounded corners on one side sucks.
No hd streaming is still in que to be fixed by Xiaomi. Though I've no idea why people complain about it, I can't really tell difference between the quality what it streams on Amazon Prime and Netflix without HD. May be I'm used to watching videos on iPad so can't tell the difference on small screen.
Coverage is excellent here with this ph. I used to get less than 1mbps with Redmi Note 5 Pro and now I easily get 10-12mbps on 4G.
I don't use microsd card, remind me this is 2018 na? People still use microsd when OEMs offer 128/256gb phs. I've purchased Poco 128GB may be that's why I never thought this ph supports microsd.
No buggy microphone here. May be it's issue with your phone.
Since you're not into custom roms, get One Plus 6 or upcoming 6T. I bet you'll still find reasons to complain about that phone too. That's just human nature. Everybody wants top end hardware by spending less money, nobody realise when you pay less for such hardware you're going to get compromise somewhere be it notch, hd streaming, touch issues, camera etc. No phone is perfect not even the iPhone X.
Good luck with the return.
Ermm which brand phone allowed micro SD to be main drive ?
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Ermm which brand phone allowed micro SD to be main drive ?
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No the main drive, but merged with the main drive. My Moto G5 Plus allows that. It is, as far as I understood, a normal function of Android (since 6.0?) but can be disabled by the manufacturer.
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No the main drive, but merged with the main drive. My Moto G5 Plus allows that. It is, as far as I understood, a normal function of Android (since 6.0?) but can be disabled by the manufacturer.
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I see, this option goes way back then android 6 ,where micro SD card can be the main ,didn't know it's a android feature to merge storage
Sorry but way to much crying about this phone everywhere.
What do u expect for 300 euro in this price range and with those spec u don't find a phone with widevine.
I come from Oneplus and now I know why are people always laughing about the Xiaomi community always complaining.
Maybe it is the price range.. I don't know.
It is not a offensive post to u personally, but everywhere I look there are complains.
Good luck with the return.
Thank you for your feedback. I understand, that people might think that complaining about a 300 USD phone is exaggerated, but on the other side there's also kind of a hype about that phone, so I thought I just let people know what my expectation were and how I feel about the phone.
I intentionally didn't mention the positive things about the phone (and there, fur sure, are good ones). I believe it isn't a bad phone at all. It just doesn't suit my very specific expecations well.
My focus was set on some key features I thought some other people would also want to know about, so this hopefully help them to decide whether to buy the phone or not.
@FTPFreezer, surprised to read a few points in your post - perhaps most surprised when I came to read that you are shifting back to a G5+. I moved from a G5, a bit slower than your phone, granted, but when I came to shift some files from my G5 earlier today after a week with the F1 I was stunned by how sluggish it was. Really, there's no comparison.
Adoptable storage has been a pain in the ass rather than a boon - mine has not failed in the way many G5 users have experienced, but getting data off the card to switch phones is misery. The F1 camera is worlds better. There's no comparison in terms of build quality, the G5 feeling like a toy. Until today I never realised the G5 screen is as poor as it is. Battery life is obviously incomparable.
Miui is not to my taste, but Rootless pixel launcher makes it tolerableme features done nicely. I'll still probably move to a custom ROM, but likely not if it means losing the face unlock.
Face unlock - reminds me how shockingly poor the G5 fingerprint reader is; the Pocophone is bang on every time.
Good luck with the switch back, but I really don't appreciate your reasoning.
Easily disable from playstore head to help and feedback then select delete or disable app and you can disable
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Thank you for your feedback. I understand, that people might think that complaining about a 300 USD phone is exaggerated, but on the other side there's also kind of a hype about that phone, so I thought I just let people know what my expectation were and how I feel about the phone.
I intentionally didn't mention the positive things about the phone (and there, fur sure, are good ones). I believe it isn't a bad phone at all. It just doesn't suit my very specific expecations well.
My focus was set on some key features I thought some other people would also want to know about, so this hopefully help them to decide whether to buy the phone or not.
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Should've just bought a more expensive phone if you have such specific needs. Most people are satisfied with what they got.
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Easily disable from playstore head to help and feedback then select delete or disable app and you can disable
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Have you tried this by yourself or do you just contribute something without knowledge? This is simply not possible on the Poco F1. You can just uninstall all updates, but you are not able to deactivate the app.
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Should've just bought a more expensive phone if you have such specific needs. Most people are satisfied with what they got.
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Why do you say this? Which of my points are related to a higher price? The only one I could think of is the frequency coverage, but other thread in this forum suggest, that Xiaomi might just block them by software.
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Have you tried this by yourself or do you just contribute something without knowledge? This is simply not possible on the Poco F1. You can just uninstall all updates, but you are not able to deactivate the app.
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I did it.. just follow step and disable them
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I did it.. just follow step and disable them
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Then it could be a region related issue. My region is set to HK (because otherwise face unlock isn't possible in Germany). It definately doesn't work like you said. But anyways, I gonna return the phone today, so it doesn't matter much anymore. I'll just keep the G5 Plus for some while.
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Then it could be a region related issue. My region is set to HK (because otherwise face unlock isn't possible in Germany). It definately doesn't work like you said. But anyways, I gonna return the phone today, so it doesn't matter much anymore. I'll just keep the G5 Plus for some while.
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Whether u take or let it go...it doesnt matter to anyone here . M trying to help u out just this ..
LOL with adb you can uninstall all you want
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Why do you say this? Which of my points are related to a higher price? The only one I could think of is the frequency coverage, but other thread in this forum suggest, that Xiaomi might just block them by software.
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A more expensive phone is more likely to match those major requirements of yours, that's all.
@FTPFreezer thank you for your review. I, for one, enjoyed your critique of the product. It's these kinds of review I like to search for before buying a product.
Only the Google Apps thing worries me, personally. I will still be getting the poco phone.
1. Buggy microphone
can't verify that, mine is good
2. The MicroSD slot doesn't help much if I can't allocate the card to the internal drive
why would you want to do that? if you have to format data even everything on SDcard is gone, UFS is anyway much faster
3. Can't get rid of Google Apps
yes, you can - just use a custom ROM
4. The rounded corners are strange
I have to admit the corners are big but I'm not playing games, so I can live with it
5. The task switcher is a step backwards
not an issues on custom ROM
6. No HD-Streaming on Netflix and Prime
for what? do you really see a difference at a 6.2" panel? regarding bandwith L3 is enough for me
7. Bad frequency coverage
can't verify that, works good here in austria
I can't help but laugh. This is a 300 hundred dollar phone. This is not the S9+ even though the Poco is faster.
I installed the SD before setting my F1. During setup of Miui 10, it asked me if I wanted to use it for app storage or just as portable storage.
If you were rooted, you could get rid of any app you want. Not sure why this is even an issue. All OEM's stop you from removing apps bundled like Google Duo, play movies etc.
There are hacked versions of Netflix out there that let you play ultra HD shows. The problem is on a 6" screen, not sure what the big deal is.
I get no 4g here in the US on T-Mobile but I've had no issues with sound quality whatsoever.
Sounds to me like a nice S9+ is what u want. Heck, it's only 600 dollars more
Let me say it again, this is an amazing phone for 300 bucks. People will always find negative things to say about any phone.
Hi everyone i recently got new tablet and its Vonino Epic E8 . Its android 7.0 (i think) ,has 16 gb internal memory, 2 gb ram and it works fine on home screen put whenever i enter any game games are running low fps and in slowmode i tryed going to settings to change animatio speed and i removed it from developer settings but its still slow i even replaced it in service for another same tablet same everything is there a way to fix here is it specs and stuff :
sorry i cant post link cuz im new here
Thanks for helping !
I am not familiar with that model, however am thinking that it could be a couple of things. Unfortunately some are not going to be feasible without skill & $ for part's. Who knows. You might be able to ?
1st given that your RAM is only 2GB, your not going to be able to do much with today's online game's unless they are the old lacking motion types.
From experience, I am going to guess that your 2GB once the device is up & running it's basic necessities is more like 1-1.3GB. The HD alone may have started @ 16GB but the OS alone might need 2GB BEFORE you have even entered any login info.
That unfortunately limit's your options. Obviously! Dumbing down to Solitaire & such may be possible but not realistic. Could look at the casing for a chance of being able to open it (voids any warranty if do!) so can swap out the RAM for more. IF THAT CAN BE DONE EVEN!! Take care doing some research on the capacity of it. Having an SD slot doesn't mean it will be able to use a 250mb SD card.
Safer yet could go more expensive, is shop around the electronic repairs options in your area. Although licensed or not, warranty is null. Yet safer than not being sure of opening it let alone using right part's.
Lastly if this is an Android, get yourself the Google apps of Game Optimization & Game Launcher. Between the two of them, they can give you some more control over features as s gamer you won't be able to get to. The Launcher on my phone is set to run ALL game's as balanced between graphics & battery use. The Optimization gives a few toggles to silence incoming, lock the brightness... They are not much but offer some control.
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