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I want to buy le max 2 today. But heard that it has heating issues. Does it ?
What other issues does it has. If it has issues ,please suggest another similar phone.
i dont know where u hear that this phone have heating issues its a lie
you can get this phone for 190$ from aliexpress for the 32gb you cant get better deal then that for sd 820 and 4gb ram
No heating issues but fp issues
No heating problem at all. In fact, it is temperature wise, the coolest phone I have ever used.
The fp sensor is not perfect, but it is not as bad as some people had said. Just stick with the stock ROM.
The phone is good. It has no heating issues. But the fingerprint scanner is a hit or miss, I would say 50% chance it works and 50% chance it works not or really bad.
veenab said:
I want to buy le max 2 today. But heard that it has heating issues. Does it ?
What other issues does it has. If it has issues ,please suggest another similar phone.
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As already said some finger print sensors fail in hardware manner. No SD card. Many battery saving techniques cause problems with notifications. Quick Charge works OK, GPS works OK. Ask more specific questions.
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Guys will you suggest OnePlus 3 or this one?
veenab said:
Guys will you suggest OnePlus 3 or this one?
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OP3 is almost twice more expensive. And also no SD card slot. X820 has bigger density. Please enter gsmarena and make comparison of this models and study line by line.
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For this price you can't get better phone
Can I update this to Android 7? Is there an official update for this?.
I did comparison ,found this camera, display better than OnePlus 3 ..My only concern is update to Android 7 and customization.
Also does rooting void any warranty? Does it Knox kind of stuff on it?
1) If your only concern is Android 7 and customization, there is one sure answer: Google Pixel or Pixel XL.
2) If you want to spend around 220-230$ for a phone, this is one of the best at this price.
3) If you have a little bit more money, get the OP3 if you have nothing against Amoled. Still I think that a 5.5 inch display phone is handled better than a 5.7.
Keep in mind that you can't buy a Dacia Logan and expect it to drive like a C-Klasse. These being said, check your priorities and act accordingly, there are plenty threads here with what is good/bad about this phone. Check the threads of your other options and decide for you. Maybe Le Max2 is very good for me but not so for you, or maybe you'll find OP3 a good one but I might not stand it's display.
Different folks, different strokes.
I currently own a nexus 6. This would be my second phone.. didn't want to spend too much money hence didn't think about pixel and also want a dual sim phone.
I will go through the threads..i did go through the reviews online and found OnePlus 3 and le max 2 were similar spec, performance wise.
I like the Android 7, so if Android 7 was available for le max 2,my search for second phone would have been over.
I would suggest to go for op3 for better development & overall support.Fp is Awesome on op3 & Nougat is already there
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I would suggest to go for op3 for better development & overall support.Fp is Awesome on op3 & Nougat is already there
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The price is 2 to 1, might as well get a Samsung S7.
what about the Zuk z2 at 160 dollars ? or still x820 is a better choice? The 5.7" does not matter to me.
Looks like a good option, although on aliexpress I could find it at a min 180$, but still is ok. Now it depends if development is better than on X820 or not...
I was able to get the rose gold (pink) version of the LeMax2 for $195. Anyone have a cheap source for gray?
I can get it for 176€ from BangGood, so should I get it or wait for Le Max 3? I kinda need new phone, because I have unjailbreakable iPhone 5, that cannot even play 1080p videos So Le Max 2 seems a great bang for my buck. But how's the battery life? I plan to use it lightly/moderately (I can get most of the day with this ****ty iPhone without playing any games).
Thanks in advance!
No
Definitively yes, for this price is the best phone, i have one from Banggood, its super fast phone with good screen, good audio, good camera for this price and fingerprint sensor
I suggest you buy Le Pro 3? Why? There is better battery, better processor, smaller and with full HD screen you can work longer on one battery charging. It's my opinion
It is best phone
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strongly recommended, i have it one week ago, I'm so satisfied.
I think it is not a major difference will be with max 3.
I would recommend it if you're coming from an iOS device because several of it's functions are modeled after iOS. You may want to look into flashing a custom ROM, but the stock one works fine. It just has a handful of bloat software. If you use a launcher like Nova Launcher, you can hide all of it.
Just don't buy it. The phone is basically a prototype, has alot of problems and production errors.
The chance that you get a fully working perfect device is 1/5 I would say. Ive had 3, yes you heard that right THREE le max 2 because they all had problems or broken parts. DO NOT BUY
i'm not ok with you, i have one and i think it's really a good smartphone for the price, good quality for value
be aware
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Just don't buy it. The phone is basically a prototype, has alot of problems and production errors.
The chance that you get a fully working perfect device is 1/5 I would say. Ive had 3, yes you heard that right THREE le max 2 because they all had problems or broken parts. DO NOT BUY
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That is a shame, I bought the mobile and was wondering, is the problems caused by specific variants with the mobile, maybe we can spot a correlation between this, so if you don't mind could you please show how much RAM and ROM those mobiles had, thanks.
I got Le Pro 3 it's good phone with insane battery life, it's beast that blast everything in its way but you pay $100 more.
Le Max 2 is dirt cheap $189 at Banggood, just be ware this phone is a bit big and bulky if you are ok with that. I saw it got few custom roms if you like flashing them. It's crazy price, I ordered one may be I will use it to watch youtube stuff. I think people burn money more than $200 monthly for nonsense stuff so give yourself a treat and support LeEco, thank you.
Hello,
I've seen the 64GB version going for cheap and I was wondering if it's still a good buy.
The most important item to me is the camera, I've read that there's still bugs with Nougat roms, have those been fixed? Decent pictures and good video recording are important to me, even if it means staying on 6.0.
I can live with a subpar battery life compared to other phones, I use the phone for music and camera mostly.
I've heard issues of quality control, is this true?
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Hello,
I've seen the 64GB version going for cheap and I was wondering if it's still a good buy.
The most important item to me is the camera, I've read that there's still bugs with Nougat roms, have those been fixed? Decent pictures and good video recording are important to me, even if it means staying on 6.0.
I can live with a subpar battery life compared to other phones, I use the phone for music and camera mostly.
I've heard issues of quality control, is this true?
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If you need good camera buy separate camera or Samsung Note 8.
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in my opinion, this mobile is really worth, it has a balance of features. music with (Dolby Atoms + CDLA) are great, the camera is nice but not perfect as new Samsung mobile, the battery is good. performance is great.
If you live in Europe, try to avoid X829 as that does not have B20 support, so most probably you'll not be able to get 4G. All the phones are the same almost X820 X821 X822 X829, only thing is B20 for the latter. They are almost unbrickable and looks like development is still going. Fingerprint sensor is a hit or miss for some, for me it's ok (not great) and it has been so for the past 16 months.
Although the company is dead, there are still the custom ROMs... But that means no more official support.
I remember when I bought it that alternatives were Axon 7, Zuk Z2, Mi5... But I ended up with LeMax2 and it's not a bad decision.
Conclusion: it's still worth buying if you're on a tight budget, otherwise look for something with SD835.
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If you live in Europe, try to avoid X829 as that does not have B20 support, so most probably you'll not be able to get 4G. All the phones are the same almost X820 X821 X822 X829, only thing is B20 for the latter. They are almost unbrickable and looks like development is still going. Fingerprint sensor is a hit or miss for some, for me it's ok (not great) and it has been so for the past 16 months.
Although the company is dead, there are still the custom ROMs... But that means no more official support.
I remember when I bought it that alternatives were Axon 7, Zuk Z2, Mi5... But I ended up with LeMax2 and it's not a bad decision.
Conclusion: it's still worth buying if you're on a tight budget, otherwise look for something with SD835.
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Using my X829 here in europe without any problems . 4G all the time full signal. A friend has the X820 and we don't have any difference in 4G signal
In the UK the O2 network uses B20, so no 4G. The Three network uses B3 & B20, so some 4G.
it depends on where you are living. no b20 doesn't mean you have no 4G at all, just not on that frequency. you can google that.
is it worth buying? in general yes, it's all in all on par with samsung s7. but... there are quite a few devices which have hardware failures out of the box or after a short time. here is what i gathered: dead fingerprint sensor, "screen flickering" from time to time, polarizer damage on display, screen has stripes, hardware failure where the phone can be flashed but wont boot (seen on x829 only), wifi and bt not working after short time (x829), camera focus stuck, ir sensor unresponsive (rare), touch screen unresposive in some areas, dead pixel on display.
if it works, it's still a decent phone for cheap. also spare parts are very cheap. of course, we wont see any official os update, thats a pity but there are aosp roms in active development.
if you buy it, i would recommend to either buy it from a vendor with good return policy or buy a used one and ask the seller if everything is 100% working. under this conditions, i would buy it again. i still love it, have 2 of them.
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4G work here in Spain, I have 829
I have no problems with camera on lineageos. I don't know about original ROM. Never used it. I don't understand what is the problem with it. The camera is NOT as good as my Samsung NX300 systems camera. But that was probably to be expected When I use max2 camera, I can see the OIS function doing it's thing and it focuses fine and takes sharp pictures.
I have a friend who told me the same thing about the camera that he heard camera is not good. He apparently watched some YouTube videos. He is also very very picky. But I have max2 with lineage and he came to my place and compared my camera photos and video with his iPhone 7 and then decided buy max2 (and bought it). (We didn't test the camera with original OS, but I asked him and he will test it)
With another iPhone 7 user we compared sharpness of photos and they seemed equal.
So, I guess if iPhone 7 camera is good enough for you, you should be fine.
Thanks to all for the replies.
I'm looking at the Le Max 2 because I've been in the Mediatek SoC world for the last 5 years and I've grown, despite the good efforts of a few developers, tired of the lack of software updates for the Mediatek devices, so I've decided to jump on the Qualcomm ship. Not willing to spend more than 250 euros on a device, and options are very limited: either the Max 2, a Redmi Note 4, Mi 5/Mi5s (a bit harder to find and more expensive) or wait and see what the Redmi Note 5 looks like when it comes out. The Max 2 looks great for what you're paying. High-end SoC, even in 2017, very good camera, community development, for under 200 euros.
I've noticed the lack of band 20, but I'm not a heavy data user, I think it's something that it's nice to have, but all long as I'm able to make calls in 2g or 3g, I'm happy.
I've also noticed the camera quality and it's a step up from Mediatek, very detailed images, plus there's camera2 api which Mediatek don't have. Also the hacked google camera might come in handy as well. At first I thought it wasn't going to be good because the sensor is a bit old, but no the pictures I've seen actually look pretty good. Plus the microphone is a bit step up for video recording.
Again, some compromises have to be made, ideally it would've a headphone jack and band 20, but it's budget-priced phone, I'm okay with those compromises.
Major concern is just the quality control, some people have no complaints others have horror stories about Le Eco. But it seems to be a minority.
Again, thanks to all who replied.
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Thanks to all for the replies.
Not willing to spend more than 250 euros on a device, and options are very limited: either the Max 2, a Redmi Note 4, Mi 5/Mi5s (a bit harder to find and more expensive) or wait and see what the Redmi Note 5 looks like when it comes out. The Max 2 looks great for what you're paying. High-end SoC, even in 2017, very good camera, community development, for under 200 euros.
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Why not buy the LeEco Le Pro 3? It's on sale for just €170.14 (using coupon code '11bgx727') https://www.banggood.com/LeTV-Leeco...on-821-Quad-core-4G-Smartphone-p-1185176.html
You get official Paranoid Android support(!!) and flagship performance (SD821, 64gb UFS 2.0, 4gb ram, 4070mAh battery) at a ridiculously low price. Bear in mind this is the US version (x727). For more information, check out the LeEco Pro 3 forum here at XDA https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3.
Palm Trees said:
Why not buy the LeEco Le Pro 3? It's on sale for just €170.14 (using coupon code '11bgx727') https://www.banggood.com/LeTV-Leeco...on-821-Quad-core-4G-Smartphone-p-1185176.html
You get official Paranoid Android support(!!) and flagship performance (SD821, 64gb UFS 2.0, 4gb ram, 4070mAh battery) at a ridiculously low price. Bear in mind this is the US version (x727). For more information, check out the LeEco Pro 3 forum here at XDA https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3.
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You also get mediocre screen & camera
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You also get mediocre screen & camera
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While that may be the case, you'll still be hard pressed to find anything at €170.14 with those specs
It all comes down to personal preference. My Le Max 2 shipped with the 'black spot in the camera lens' issue and is currently being repaired under the warranty. That being said, I very much enjoy the phone.
Long story short I lent my S8+ to my dad coz his iPhone 7 busted. The only phone I have now is Mi Mix 2 running Mekoo ROM. So I decided to let my dad take the phone and I’ll get the s9 coming March.
My question : I want a good but a powerful phone for the time being. I see Le Max 2 even got LineageOS 15 so is it good to run AOSP roms and still get ‘flagship feel’? Thank you in advance.
Its performance should be fine for another year or so at least, as the SD820 it's running is still a very capable chipset even when compared to the SD835, which all the current flagships are using.
I own one and don't plan on upgrading until mid 2019...
You can get this phone or Le Pro 3 with SD 821.
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Its performance should be fine for another year or so at least, as the SD820 it's running is still a very capable chipset even when compared to the SD835, which all the current flagships are using.
I own one and don't plan on upgrading until mid 2019...
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Thanks for the answer. How's the screen and the loudspeaker? (All I do is watch Judge Judy on YouTube). Will I at the least get 4h sot with custom roms? Thank you again.
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You can get this phone or Le Pro 3 with SD 821.
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It isn't available here in India. Le Max 2 is at sale now for about $150 and I don't trust the SD 6xx and Kirin SoCs.
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Thanks for the answer. How's the screen and the loudspeaker? (All I do is watch Judge Judy on YouTube). Will I at the least get 4h sot with custom roms? Thank you again.
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As for the screen and speaker, here's a review of the device, running its original firmware, that'll give you an idea:
https://www.gsmarena.com/leeco_le_max_2-review-1449.php
As for my own opinion about them: the screen is clear, sharp and bright, and the speaker is loud without any noticeable distortion.
As for the SoT when using custom ROMs, yes, 4 hours is doable and I routinely average that myself...
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It isn't available here in India. Le Max 2 is at sale now for about $150 and I don't trust the SD 6xx and Kirin SoCs.
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Thats pretty good price. You should get 64 or 128 GB model. 32 GB model has only 24 GB of storage free and this phone does not has an external storage.
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Thats pretty good price. You should get 64 or 128 GB model. 32 GB model has only 24 GB of storage free and this phone does not has an external storage.
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Ohh I see. Thanks for the heads up.
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As for the screen and speaker, here's a review of the device, running its original firmware, that'll give you an idea:
https://www.gsmarena.com/leeco_le_max_2-review-1449.php
As for the SoT when using custom ROMs, yes, 4 hours is doable and I routinely average that myself...
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Wow it's loudspeakers seemed to be on par with Nexus 6p and that thing had a double front speakers. Surprising. Thanks for the info.
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Wow it's loudspeakers seemed to be on par with Nexus 6p and that thing had a double front speakers. Surprising. Thanks for the info.
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You're welcome. Whatever you eventually decide upon, I wish you all the best... ?
Prepare yourself for the hardware lottery. The FP in this device has a very good chance to die suddenly or to be dead out of the box. I ordered my x820 4GB 32GB from Geekbuying and the FP worked for 3 hours then it kinda died, it catches a print whenever it wants. If you buy it from your country that's good because you can return it if the FP is dead. I live in Europe and ordered from China basically, so yeah, there's nothing left to do.
If you can't really find the SD821 Le Pro3 then go for this device but prepare yourself, you might need to send the device back and get another one.
Note: my FP worked for 3 hours, other guys here had working FPs for 2 weeks, 2 months, then it died, so be careful.
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Prepare yourself for the hardware lottery. The FP in this device has a very good chance to die suddenly or to be dead out of the box. I ordered my x820 4GB 32GB from Geekbuying and the FP worked for 3 hours then it kinda died, it catches a print whenever it wants. If you buy it from your country that's good because you can return it if the FP is dead. I live in Europe and ordered from China basically, so yeah, there's nothing left to do.
If you can't really find the SD821 Le Pro3 then go for this device but prepare yourself, you might need to send the device back and get another one.
Note: my FP worked for 3 hours, other guys here had working FPs for 2 weeks, 2 months, then it died, so be careful.
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+1. Yup. This device is plagued with fp problems. Mine's long dead and only a miracle can resurrect it.
While the fingerprint sensor on mine can be a little finicky, usually after the device has been asleep awhile, I've had no serious issues with it - the fact that I flashed the latest modem firmware (it contains driver code for the fingerprint sensor, apparently) may have something to do with it, though... ?
Now that you guys mention it, I remember my cousin buying the first leeco phone and the fingerprint never worked. I'd rather look at other options before I jump the gun.
Well, that's for sure a lottery with the FP. Mine is working even after 1.5 years. I had a 1s before this and its FP was one of the fastest that I've seen/used.
Why not Le Pro3 or even Axon7? Depends how much cash you have...
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Well, that's for sure a lottery with the FP. Mine is working even after 1.5 years. I had a 1s before this and its FP was one of the fastest that I've seen/used.
Why not Le Pro3 or even Axon7? Depends how much cash you have...
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I'd rather not spend much as S9 is just a few months away and I might sell my s8+ to get it if it's good (Samsung hasn't managed to get fingerprint under glass this year as well). So I went ahead and got lemax 2.
Best phone I've ever used. Got universal remote too. Speaker is loud. Reception is great. Fingerprint is your too. But I don't flash any ROM. I believe most people who had problem with fingerprint after flashing rom.
For those with FP problems, maybe flash a new modem?
Hey guys, I'm thinking about picking this phone up but I'm a tad confused about cdla. I read that the dac is moved from the phone itself to the headphones (earbuds). So would you be able to hook up a pair of bluetooth headphones to this phone?
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Hey guys, I'm thinking about picking this phone up but I'm a tad confused about cdla. I read that the dac is moved from the phone itself to the headphones (earbuds). So would you be able to hook up a pair of bluetooth headphones to this phone?
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Yes Bluetooth headphones are possible. I use them to.
In my opinion the Le Max 2 is a really good device and definitly good enough für 2018 because every 835 device is much more expensive.
I had no Problem with fp and I'm really happy with the Device. Sot of 4.5 Hours are possible without noticeable slowdown of device. I hopefully will use it 2018 too (if i don't destroy it with my clumsy :silly: )
I've bought 3 of the cheap refurbished E5823 phones from 3 different suppliers, 2 on Ebay and one on Aliexpress.
With all 3 phones everything is perfect, but NFC wil not work. I returned the first 2 phones for a full refund.
I tried everything, I assumed that if I flashed the phones back to an early stock version of the OS and then updated them sequentially to new versions the NFC update would take place and with new firmware NFC would start working.
But I've had no luck, as all the phones behave the same way it makes me wonder if they might be using the board from a Docomo version that did not have NFC on the board, but used an NFC SIM.
However the device reports as an E5823.
You can get these phones for less than $100USD delivered now and it's a nice compact water resistant phone with a decent camera, if I could just get the NFC working it would be perfect.
When I try and turn the NFC on it just turns itself off.
When I install a new stock rom after it reboots it says NFC firmware updating, do not turn off your phone.
After a few minutes it says NFC firmware failed (-1)
I asked the latest seller of the phones in China and he said it is not possible to make NFC work, but he would not give me any details.
I have another NFC board here and even with the NFC antenna disconnected it will still allow NFC to be turned on, so It is not a missing antenna.
If anyone has any ideas, I would love to hear them.
I'm running Lineageos 14.1 and it is fast with great battery life.
Thanks
The same thing happens with 2 z3 compact (Docomo and Aries) y1 z5 compact bought in china. the z3c is LB and the z5c is UB. the first with stock rom or xperienz and the second with all the rom that exist for z5c. I could never use nfc with any of them. on the other hand, mirrorlink works for me in z3c and not in z5c. Another curiosity is the use of the band 20 800mhz that is blocked in the z5c no matter the rom that o.baseband installed. I have tried programs such as dfs tools qualcomm and they are useless with these mobile phones from China.
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Would you chaps be good enough to link to either the eBay auction or the eBay seller that you bought these from, so that others can avoid the same mistake? I'm sure there is more than one seller that is distributing these phones, so buyers may not be safe anyway, but at least we can steer people away from known-bad auctions.
Thanks!!
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I've bought 3 of the cheap refurbished E5823 phones from 3 different suppliers, 2 on Ebay and one on Aliexpress.
With all 3 phones everything is perfect, but NFC wil not work. I returned the first 2 phones for a full refund.
I tried everything, I assumed that if I flashed the phones back to an early stock version of the OS and then updated them sequentially to new versions the NFC update would take place and with new firmware NFC would start working.
But I've had no luck, as all the phones behave the same way it makes me wonder if they might be using the board from a Docomo version that did not have NFC on the board, but used an NFC SIM.
However the device reports as an E5823.
You can get these phones for less than $100USD delivered now and it's a nice compact water resistant phone with a decent camera, if I could just get the NFC working it would be perfect.
When I try and turn the NFC on it just turns itself off.
When I install a new stock rom after it reboots it says NFC firmware updating, do not turn off your phone.
After a few minutes it says NFC firmware failed (-1)
I asked the latest seller of the phones in China and he said it is not possible to make NFC work, but he would not give me any details.
I have another NFC board here and even with the NFC antenna disconnected it will still allow NFC to be turned on, so It is not a missing antenna.
If anyone has any ideas, I would love to hear them.
I'm running Lineageos 14.1 and it is fast with great battery life.
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Please did you solve this issue? As I have the same issue but I bought the same model E5823 new from china by ebay.? Please help.
Many Z5 compact models from Ebay, od Ali are refubrished SO-02H japanese models, Rooted, opened Bootloader, and Hardly "Cracked" firmware as E5823. If you open them, you will find differences between official boards EU-USA and these Asian market.... there is not NFC antenna and there are different contacts on GSM/LTE antenas. Different main antenna. Also, construction quality is really BAD. There is not original Sony Aluminium isolation behind LCD, but poor something.... what moves!, so if phone fall down, it will always crash screen from inside! Do not buy These refubrished low quality sh!ts. And some of them have very used batteries also... But exterior looks nice Interior is really BAD. If it falls, total destruction.... so you can look inside and check if I´m right...
I am... I Have had one of these 4 parts. difference is also IMEI these refubrishers have 35969806... This is Japanese IMEI. And also screen will want to pop-off... upper left and right corner - in Pakistan they don´t have real glue, but some fake glue , so proximity will not work after few days. Not water resistant. LCDs are cheap fakes, not originals- bad color- on sun you see absolutely nothing.... and so on....
But.... they are selling very well That´s it.... loooks like a new.... poor quality shadow market.
this one is just perfect
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started at 30 Euro... now 50 it will be 200+ more.... who knows blue knows already,,,,
this is real stuff sony z5 compact.... Yeaaah original. SONY
I have seen one auction.... 50- 70 80 150 180 yes 200 Euro.... in last minute 201 Euro I know why...
people loves these compact phones and some of them can recognize originals and fakes...
they look simmilar, but there are small differences..... external and big internal.... You have to be advanced user to know if it is fake or original.... Very advanced......
76 Euro 4 now.... I dont need it.... but let´s play the game..... I like price grow up.... not mine auction.... I pay max 100 Euro... I have 3 perfect pieces.... all under 100 Euro buy..... but lets make a fun 200 euro and more
200 Euro is not the answer.... they want it!!!! question is if somebody wants it for 300 Euro I think he wants.... This is something special.... YES it is....