Long story short I lent my S8+ to my dad coz his iPhone 7 busted. The only phone I have now is Mi Mix 2 running Mekoo ROM. So I decided to let my dad take the phone and I’ll get the s9 coming March.
My question : I want a good but a powerful phone for the time being. I see Le Max 2 even got LineageOS 15 so is it good to run AOSP roms and still get ‘flagship feel’? Thank you in advance.
Its performance should be fine for another year or so at least, as the SD820 it's running is still a very capable chipset even when compared to the SD835, which all the current flagships are using.
I own one and don't plan on upgrading until mid 2019...
You can get this phone or Le Pro 3 with SD 821.
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Its performance should be fine for another year or so at least, as the SD820 it's running is still a very capable chipset even when compared to the SD835, which all the current flagships are using.
I own one and don't plan on upgrading until mid 2019...
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Thanks for the answer. How's the screen and the loudspeaker? (All I do is watch Judge Judy on YouTube). Will I at the least get 4h sot with custom roms? Thank you again.
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You can get this phone or Le Pro 3 with SD 821.
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It isn't available here in India. Le Max 2 is at sale now for about $150 and I don't trust the SD 6xx and Kirin SoCs.
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Thanks for the answer. How's the screen and the loudspeaker? (All I do is watch Judge Judy on YouTube). Will I at the least get 4h sot with custom roms? Thank you again.
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As for the screen and speaker, here's a review of the device, running its original firmware, that'll give you an idea:
https://www.gsmarena.com/leeco_le_max_2-review-1449.php
As for my own opinion about them: the screen is clear, sharp and bright, and the speaker is loud without any noticeable distortion.
As for the SoT when using custom ROMs, yes, 4 hours is doable and I routinely average that myself...
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It isn't available here in India. Le Max 2 is at sale now for about $150 and I don't trust the SD 6xx and Kirin SoCs.
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Thats pretty good price. You should get 64 or 128 GB model. 32 GB model has only 24 GB of storage free and this phone does not has an external storage.
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Thats pretty good price. You should get 64 or 128 GB model. 32 GB model has only 24 GB of storage free and this phone does not has an external storage.
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Ohh I see. Thanks for the heads up.
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As for the screen and speaker, here's a review of the device, running its original firmware, that'll give you an idea:
https://www.gsmarena.com/leeco_le_max_2-review-1449.php
As for the SoT when using custom ROMs, yes, 4 hours is doable and I routinely average that myself...
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Wow it's loudspeakers seemed to be on par with Nexus 6p and that thing had a double front speakers. Surprising. Thanks for the info.
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Wow it's loudspeakers seemed to be on par with Nexus 6p and that thing had a double front speakers. Surprising. Thanks for the info.
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You're welcome. Whatever you eventually decide upon, I wish you all the best... ?
Prepare yourself for the hardware lottery. The FP in this device has a very good chance to die suddenly or to be dead out of the box. I ordered my x820 4GB 32GB from Geekbuying and the FP worked for 3 hours then it kinda died, it catches a print whenever it wants. If you buy it from your country that's good because you can return it if the FP is dead. I live in Europe and ordered from China basically, so yeah, there's nothing left to do.
If you can't really find the SD821 Le Pro3 then go for this device but prepare yourself, you might need to send the device back and get another one.
Note: my FP worked for 3 hours, other guys here had working FPs for 2 weeks, 2 months, then it died, so be careful.
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Prepare yourself for the hardware lottery. The FP in this device has a very good chance to die suddenly or to be dead out of the box. I ordered my x820 4GB 32GB from Geekbuying and the FP worked for 3 hours then it kinda died, it catches a print whenever it wants. If you buy it from your country that's good because you can return it if the FP is dead. I live in Europe and ordered from China basically, so yeah, there's nothing left to do.
If you can't really find the SD821 Le Pro3 then go for this device but prepare yourself, you might need to send the device back and get another one.
Note: my FP worked for 3 hours, other guys here had working FPs for 2 weeks, 2 months, then it died, so be careful.
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+1. Yup. This device is plagued with fp problems. Mine's long dead and only a miracle can resurrect it.
While the fingerprint sensor on mine can be a little finicky, usually after the device has been asleep awhile, I've had no serious issues with it - the fact that I flashed the latest modem firmware (it contains driver code for the fingerprint sensor, apparently) may have something to do with it, though... ?
Now that you guys mention it, I remember my cousin buying the first leeco phone and the fingerprint never worked. I'd rather look at other options before I jump the gun.
Well, that's for sure a lottery with the FP. Mine is working even after 1.5 years. I had a 1s before this and its FP was one of the fastest that I've seen/used.
Why not Le Pro3 or even Axon7? Depends how much cash you have...
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Well, that's for sure a lottery with the FP. Mine is working even after 1.5 years. I had a 1s before this and its FP was one of the fastest that I've seen/used.
Why not Le Pro3 or even Axon7? Depends how much cash you have...
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I'd rather not spend much as S9 is just a few months away and I might sell my s8+ to get it if it's good (Samsung hasn't managed to get fingerprint under glass this year as well). So I went ahead and got lemax 2.
Best phone I've ever used. Got universal remote too. Speaker is loud. Reception is great. Fingerprint is your too. But I don't flash any ROM. I believe most people who had problem with fingerprint after flashing rom.
For those with FP problems, maybe flash a new modem?
Hey guys, I'm thinking about picking this phone up but I'm a tad confused about cdla. I read that the dac is moved from the phone itself to the headphones (earbuds). So would you be able to hook up a pair of bluetooth headphones to this phone?
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Hey guys, I'm thinking about picking this phone up but I'm a tad confused about cdla. I read that the dac is moved from the phone itself to the headphones (earbuds). So would you be able to hook up a pair of bluetooth headphones to this phone?
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Yes Bluetooth headphones are possible. I use them to.
In my opinion the Le Max 2 is a really good device and definitly good enough für 2018 because every 835 device is much more expensive.
I had no Problem with fp and I'm really happy with the Device. Sot of 4.5 Hours are possible without noticeable slowdown of device. I hopefully will use it 2018 too (if i don't destroy it with my clumsy :silly: )
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Hey devs,
for about 3 weeks I have been a proud owner of the RMN2 Prime until yesterday, when it suddenly turned off and died.
When I got the phone I started skinning it down with jaik's custom boot image and also cleaned it from unused apps. So far so good.
Now, some days ago I decided to switch over to danielpinto's CM12.1 , which is really awesome compared to MIUI. No problems either.
I also installed Greenify and Disable services to get rid of some battery hogs.
Yesterday, I was out of home whole day, had minimal standby battery drain, but really massive battery drop when recording a video (~50% to 25% in about 2min).
Put it in my pocket, and 10 min later it didn't turn on again. I thought it would be the battery, but apparently it's bricked. No charge LED, no PC recognition, nothing...
I tried to unbrick it via SP tool and some really unconvenient tutorials, but nothing worked. I guess I installed all needed drivers now, but SP tool doesn't show any reaction in the progress bar (the coloured bar at the bottom...I don't get ANY colour, nothing starts when I click the download button).
What to do?
The RMN2 is a pretty good phone IMO, but now also my first bricked one. I would be extremly graceful if some experienced xda devs could help me with this as I'm really desperated.
I'm from Europe and ordering a new one (if I'd need to) would take some weeks from now.
If so, have you any suggestions on which device might be a better choice? It should be in the same price range though.
Thanks for reading!
Best regards
If it is broken.... I guess new phone can be redmi note 3 pro.
Only thing I can think of is trying with a new battery.. (something must be wrong with it if it drained that quickly).
Thanks for your replies!
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Only thing I can think of is trying with a new battery.. (something must be wrong with it if it drained that quickly).
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Well, after I used the camera the drain was normal again and stayed at 27%. I also removed the battery and directly powered it from my powerbank, but it never turned on or vibrated...and no LED...
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If it is broken.... I guess new phone can be redmi note 3 pro.
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The extra features of the 3 pro are not really attractive for me. I've found the Elephone P9000 Lite today and I think this might be great alternative. Or I give the RMN2 another chance. Not sure on this yet...
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Thanks for your replies!
Well, after I used the camera the drain was normal again and stayed at 27%. I also removed the battery and directly powered it from my powerbank, but it never turned on or vibrated...and no LED...
The extra features of the 3 pro are not really attractive for me. I've found the Elephone P9000 Lite today and I think this might be great alternative. Or I give the RMN2 another chance. Not sure on this yet...
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Wouldn't it be less costly to first spend 10$ on a new battery before buying a new phone? In regards to a new phone, I'd chose a Snapdragon 650 powered RN3 w/ a 4k mAh battery over the Elephone P9000 Lite any day of the week. My brother has one and it's an amazing phone. Of course it all depends of what you find important in a phone. What makes you go for the Elephone?
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Wouldn't it be less costly to first spend 10$ on a new battery before buying a new phone? In regards to a new phone, I'd chose a Snapdragon 650 powered RN3 w/ a 4k mAh battery over the Elephone P9000 Lite any day of the week. My brother has one and it's an amazing phone. Of course it all depends of what you find important in a phone. What makes you go for the Elephone?
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Really appreciate your thoughts, man!
If I could be sure that it was a battery problem I would of course buy a new one. But it really appears to be a hard brick (I tested it with the battery removed and the phone directly plugged to the charger -> no LED, no reaction) Also the PC can't recognise it anymore.
The RN3 might surely be a nice phone, but for me the fingerprint, slithly faster performance and the battery are not worth 60€ more.
I just stumbled over the P9000 Lite yesterday and it seems to have everything the RN2 has + more RAM, LTE band 20 and Marshmallow. Negative is the small xda community for it...
And today I just found Ulefone! Geez, almost the same company name, but whole different stuff...there are way too many china phones out there!
The Elephone is down for a Ulefone Power or Ulefone Vienna.
Any thoughts?
Btw FYI, my preferences would be:
- at least 3000mAH
- 5.5 inch FHD
- Android 6 (or via update) + maybe chance for N if it's not asked too much
- at least 2Gb RAM, processor level of RN2 would be sufficient
- I don't care about the camera quality at all
- less than ~180€
Does the phone vibrate when you plug it to the charger without the battery?
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Does the phone vibrate when you plug it to the charger without the battery?
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Where did you buy your phone? Maybe it's still in warranty and maybe they will fix it for free,spending some $ to fix the rn2 is more convenient
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Where did you buy your phone? Maybe it's still in warranty and maybe they will fix it for free,spending some $ to fix the rn2 is more convenient
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I got it from Gearbest and it's still in their 45 days warranty. I'll probably try to ask for a refund and order a new RN2.
Sending it back, fixing it, then sending it back to me would last monthes...
So I'll order a new one today or tomorrow, I'm just undecided between Ulefone Power or RN2.
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Really appreciate your thoughts, man!
If I could be sure that it was a battery problem I would of course buy a new one. But it really appears to be a hard brick (I tested it with the battery removed and the phone directly plugged to the charger -> no LED, no reaction) Also the PC can't recognise it anymore.
The RN3 might surely be a nice phone, but for me the fingerprint, slithly faster performance and the battery are not worth 60€ more.
I just stumbled over the P9000 Lite yesterday and it seems to have everything the RN2 has + more RAM, LTE band 20 and Marshmallow. Negative is the small xda community for it...
And today I just found Ulefone! Geez, almost the same company name, but whole different stuff...there are way too many china phones out there!
The Elephone is down for a Ulefone Power or Ulefone Vienna.
Any thoughts?
Btw FYI, my preferences would be:
- at least 3000mAH
- 5.5 inch FHD
- Android 6 (or via update) + maybe chance for N if it's not asked too much
- at least 2Gb RAM, processor level of RN2 would be sufficient
- I don't care about the camera quality at all
- less than ~180€
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Djeeeeeeeeeeeez thx a lot!! You've made me look at that Elephone P9000 Lite, then at that Ulefone Power (looks awesome w/ wooden back!) and now i'm considering passing on my RN2 to a family member and going on a spending spree (again) I wouldn't personally go for the Ulefone Power because of it's less than great MT6753 processor, 16GB (only) storage and Ulefone's custom ROM (planned upgrade to MM, but yeah don't think it'll get N).
I'm actually moving to China in a couple of weeks and one of the first things I'll do when I get there is go have a look at the Umi Super. Check out these specs:
- SHARP 2.5D 5.5 FHD display (Gorilla glass 3)
- Mediatek P10 (MT6755) @ 2.0GHz
- SAMSUNG 32GB eMMC 5.1 ROM
- SAMSUNG LPDDR3 4GB RAM
- SONY 4000 mAh battery
- PANASONIC 13MP dual flash camera
- TYPE-C USB / SD card up to 256GB / Fingerprint sensor / Dual SIM (shared 2nd slot w/ SD)
And when you thought it couldn't get any better, it comes with stock Android 6.0 (yes you've read that right!! it's a Nexus!!!!! ) and Umi offers a ROM flashing tool (Rootjoy) on their website and the tool allows you to flash a MIUI, VIBE, EMUI or LEWA ROM, made for the Super, to the phone
That is one hell of a crazy phone! Now I know in your requirements it says "less than 180e" and there is a time limited offer on Umi's homepage to get it for 179.99$ (not sure about shipping fees). Anyway, I'm gonna get it even if I need to shell the normal 249.99$ price for it (it's more than worth it if you look at the top class components they've chosen for the Super). So screw the idea of repairing your RN2, throw it in the bin (or put it up on eBay) and get that unibody aluminium one
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Djeeeeeeeeeeeez thx a lot!! You've made me look at that Elephone P9000 Lite....
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Damn it, now there are 3 devices to choose from
The RN2 has a strong community, but bad battery..
the Ulefone Power has...ehm...power and MM, but is unhandy and has no community..
and the UMI Super sounds awesome, but has even less community and it will take monthes til it would be here with me!
Do you have a link to the 180 bucks offer? found it
And are you in anyway paid by UMI by chance?
EDIT: Ok, somehow got hooked by the Super Now the only question is where to get it fast and cheap
I can't stand getting along with my old Lg L7 for so long!
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And are you in anyway paid by UMI by chance?
EDIT: Ok, somehow got hooked by the Super Now the only question is where to get it fast and cheap
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Not in any way., I only found out about Umi at 2am last night when I was still looking at the newer China phones xD You can go on their website and click on the Super promo on the homepage (Snap now) and it will show you all the supported resellers (Gearbest and alike + 1 shop on Aliexpress/eBay). The Aliexpress shop (Deal Home) seems to be the only one having stock already (there's a certificate signed by a Umi representative stating that Deal Home has the First launch exclusivity) and all the other shops won't be sending anything out before June 20th. I've taken a look at their flash sale system. First, you need to register for the coupon (which they mail every Wednesday to the lucky first ones) and then you need to wait on a flash sale day (there was one on May 23rd and the next one, which we'll miss obviously, is on May 31th). Only on those days, and at the following hours: 00:00, 03:00, 06:00, 18:00 and 21:00, can you get one for 179$. The 179$ phones will be shipped out after 7 days according to the shop. So this system 1) scks and 2) is not as speedy as we like.
But there's a second option. You can buy it in a presale (right now) w/o the flash sale crap for 219.99$ on Deal Home (there's a 10$ seller discount as well) and according to them, those phones get shipped out "24~48h after test well". Thing is, I'm not sure how true that all is since in the shipping option, it mentions "ships out within 28 business days" (but that might be a default aliexpress thing). I'd just contact the shop and ask how quickly you can get it (or the item is being shipped out) if you take the 209.99$ one. They have 81 gray ones and 97 golden ones left.
It is true that the dev community is pretty small, but how much of it do you need if they offer a stock ROM by default (w/ possibility of root, xposed, etc.) and many alternative ROMS as an option? The only thing they might not do (but that's the same for every other Android vendor) is to offer an upgrade to Android N. I checked their forum a bit and at least they're being honest and clear about it when and why one of their devices isn't being updated to a new Android version.
I just had a first look at the sellers today and at the moment they all sell them for about 190€ - 200€, which is still okay for me (especially compared to the RN3). That is efox, tomtop, Banggood and Gearbest. Aliexpress' Deal Home unfortunately doesn't ship to my country. But I saw that Gearbest also has this kind of flash sale on special days of the week.
They all seem to deliver from mid to end of June plus the shipping time itself. So it will be here in mid July at the earliest...
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The only thing they might not do (but that's the same for every other Android vendor) is to offer an upgrade to Android N. I checked their forum a bit and at least they're being honest and clear about it when and why one of their devices isn't being updated to a new Android version.
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I was quite happy to see this.
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I just had a first look at the sellers today and at the moment they all sell them for about 190€ - 200€, which is still okay for me (especially compared to the RN3). That is efox, tomtop, Banggood and Gearbest. Aliexpress' Deal Home unfortunately doesn't ship to my country. But I saw that Gearbest also has this kind of flash sale on special days of the week.
They all seem to deliver from mid to end of June plus the shipping time itself. So it will be here in mid July at the earliest...
Ah the major downside of importing phones from China .. it takes forever to get them (unless you pay an extra 35$ for a DHL <8 days delivery).
I was quite happy to see this.
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Awesome. That seals the deal for me
Btw, this is Umi's official shop on Aliexpress. You can get the super deal and flash deal for their device right there. There's even 1 super deal phone in stock but unfortunately it's a gold one.
Maybe this could help, but is in spanish http://www.movilesdualsim.com/index.php?threads/117528/
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jmora99 said:
Maybe this could help, but is in spanish http://www.movilesdualsim.com/index.php?threads/117528/
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Sorry for the delayed response and thank you for your tip! Actually I tried the exact same tutorial (in english language) before, but to no success.
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In the meantime I ordered the UMI Super for 164€. I'm really excited, but have to wait until July at least, as it will be shipped from 25th June at the earliest -.-
And now I'm already wondering if I should send the Super right back to GearBest and buy a Vernee Apollo Lite.
I thought the Super would be the best of the best for this price atm, but when you see the Apollo Lite....
- Helio X20 Deca core (Antutu >90000)
- IGZO display that seems to be really power efficient
- better camera with better focus
and Vernee is said to get a lot of hours out of a 3000mAH battery. While the 4000mAH of the Umi might not hold what they promise...
I'm not really into the fastest processor available as you won't feel a big differnece in daily use anyway, but it still seems to be a better package overall.
Price ~200€, ~230$ pre-sale
I ordered aswell they working on the battery like the last update. Waiting for root =(
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Little update and a question:
I'm currently pretty happy with the UMI Super. All I wish for is DTTW and a Wifi fix, but all in all a really decent device for that price.
Regarding the RMN 2:
It's a real shame that I cant revive it...so dead...yet so beautiful
I disassembled it and tried the test point method as a last resort, but I can't identify the test points.
Anyone knows where they are?
I googled, but to no avail...
Thanks everyone!
All discussions about buying new phone or advise not to upgrade goes in this thread.
Personally, I wouldn't mind keeping the G2 but I will need to replace the battery on mine if I shall keep using it. Normal since I've had the phone for 2 years now.
I got the phone for almost 3 years now, never changed the battery - always charging with LG's charger and having nice battery life [CM and Stock, whatever you prefer]
I don't see any good reason to move on, nothing has dramatically changed yet. Fingerprint? Wireless charging?
So I think we can stick to our good old G2 for a bit more...
My G2 has 3 years already and is perfect. I picked it up already used and still have nice battery life, around 5 to 7 hours of SOT. I'm on my second G2, this one with 32GB of internal memory and I don't see any good reason to spend a lot of money that I don't have on a new device that doesn't add that much. I plan to keep my G2 for like one year or more. Don't really feel changing it anytime soon.
Would be nice to have a really functionality MM rom. I tested most roms, but the camera and sound are bad. The smoothness of the custom Roms are very good. So what to do? I think the Rom development stocks. I have to stay on stock Rom to have all working fine. But in future I see apps not working or very laggy working with the "old" LP Rom. So my experience in the past with my tab.
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3 years here too. Not gonna make it much longer, the digitizer is going bad on the bottom left. Looking at the Pixel, but want to wait to make sure there are no manufacturing issues (like exploding) before I take the plunge. I have a Nexus 9, I'm not too confident in HTC's build quality after the problems I've had with it.
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3 years here too. Not gonna make it much longer, the digitizer is going bad on the bottom left. Looking at the Pixel, but want to wait to make sure there are no manufacturing issues (like exploding) before I take the plunge. I have a Nexus 9, I'm not to confident in HTC's build quality after the problems I've had with it.
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Same thought.
I have g2 from 1 year. I have the 16 gb variant. I must tell that maybe i need less lags, a microsd slot and a lot of more battery... But i must keep it for another year, i can't change it.
I'm thinking in get another phone just because 16gb isn't enough anymore.
If I could find some hack to expand this 16gb internal storage, I would do it.
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I don't see any good reason to move on, nothing has dramatically changed yet. Fingerprint? Wireless charging?
So I think we can stick to our good old G2 for a bit more...
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Thats so true, realy no need for any new phone now, everything still works fluently.
Too bad Dorimanx and others already quit g2 developement and not much new developers
Second G2 here, the 32GB variety, I swapped out my first G2(16Gb) to the G3 hoping for all that upgrade coolness - nope, then the OnePlus1 - cheaper than the G3 etc, but the size started to bother me. So, I went back to the G2, I still have the 16GB first one which was battered close to death by my resident teenager so I picked up the second one very cheaply and would not swap it for anything. To my eyes and hands nothing made after it looks or handles much better, the G2 still has one of the best screen-to-size ratios - my favourite thing about it! I'm Running OrionOS MM, getting up to 5 hours screen time, LGCamera from the Playstore does a fair job of replacing the stock one, it even does 1080p @ 60fps. Of late the headphone socket has started acting up a bit .. off to Ebay for another 32Gb model, don't mind if I do!
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Of late the headphone socket has started acting up a bit .. off to Ebay for another 32Gb model, don't mind if I do!
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Same here, im thinking to maybe invest in some wireless headphones but then again, having to charge headphones almost daily may just make things even more annoying
Anyone who (upgraded) from G2 to OnePlus 3 with any thoughts about how the two devices compare?
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Anyone who (upgraded) from G2 to OnePlus 3 with any thoughts about how the two devices compare?
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No Oneplus 3 yet, I have this phone:
- G2 D802(32gb) bought new since 2013 I think
- G Pro2 32gb F350L, this device just similar to G2 but 5.9 inch screen, 3gb ram+sd card and much better sound from my experience.
- Htc one M8 32gb, this phone screen/speaker is good and performance is all right and reliable.
I have ordered Lg G4 (F500) it's coming in few days, so I will try it.
They are not new devices but with root and custom rom they still work quite good for me.
I think now you can get really good phone for $250-$400 with Xiaomi Mi5/5s, LeEco Pro2/3, Zuk Z2/Pro, Oneplus 3, Lg G5 so many choices. For speed I seen reviews Oneplus 3 is top dog, with new Huawei Honor8 5.2inch is good too if you like small phone.
For good multimedia/audio experience maybe Lenovo Vibe X3 cost less than ZTE Axzon 7 in my opinion.
by next year, our beloved G2 will have android nougat that too stable version , thanks to developers working all day and night.
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by next year, our beloved G2 will have android nougat that too stable version , thanks to developers working all day and night.
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We already have Nougat, some more stable than others AICP,CRdroid etc
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We already have Nougat, some more stable than others AICP,CRdroid etc
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link please, can we use it as daily driver? taking pics, no heating prob, battery life and smooth and lag free?
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Second G2 here, the 32GB variety, I swapped out my first G2(16Gb) to the G3 hoping for all that upgrade coolness - nope, then the OnePlus1 - cheaper than the G3 etc, but the size started to bother me. So, I went back to the G2, I still have the 16GB first one which was battered close to death by my resident teenager so I picked up the second one very cheaply and would not swap it for anything. To my eyes and hands nothing made after it looks or handles much better, the G2 still has one of the best screen-to-size ratios - my favourite thing about it! I'm Running OrionOS MM, getting up to 5 hours screen time, LGCamera from the Playstore does a fair job of replacing the stock one, it even does 1080p @ 60fps. Of late the headphone socket has started acting up a bit .. off to Ebay for another 32Gb model, don't mind if I do!
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Could you give me a link to webcam app?
Let us know how you like the G4.
Have to agree with how many choices are available for 250-400!
So many good phones are out now
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No Oneplus 3 yet, I have this phone:
- G2 D802(32gb) bought new since 2013 I think
- G Pro2 32gb F350L, this device just similar to G2 but 5.9 inch screen, 3gb ram+sd card and much better sound from my experience.
- Htc one M8 32gb, this phone screen/speaker is good and performance is all right and reliable.
I have ordered Lg G4 (F500) it's coming in few days, so I will try it.
They are not new devices but with root and custom rom they still work quite good for me.
I think now you can get really good phone for $250-$400 with Xiaomi Mi5/5s, LeEco Pro2/3, Zuk Z2/Pro, Oneplus 3, Lg G5 so many choices. For speed I seen reviews Oneplus 3 is top dog, with new Huawei Honor8 5.2inch is good too if you like small phone.
For good multimedia/audio experience maybe Lenovo Vibe X3 cost less than ZTE Axzon 7 in my opinion.
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I just love my g2. Is there anything in the market similar ? After three years the main problems for me are scratched rear camera. Bluetooth needing reboots to work. And finally the constant need after rebooting to enter a code to change to 4g. Won't be changing it any time soon.
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I just love my g2. Is there anything in the market similar ? After three years the main problems for me are scratched rear camera. Bluetooth needing reboots to work. And finally the constant need after rebooting to enter a code to change to 4g. Won't be changing it any time soon.
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Sounds like custom ROM problems. Try sticking to LG based ROMs - if you already are, then try an LG kitkat ROM. 4.4 has always worked best for me.
can anyone offer opinions or advice?
im reading there is no sd card option, does the dual sim tray not support it?
42o247 said:
can anyone offer opinions or advice?
im reading there is no sd card option, does the dual sim tray not support it?
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No SD card but the phone is very very good for this price
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No SD card but the phone is very very good for this price
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thanks
42o247 said:
can anyone offer opinions or advice?
im reading there is no sd card option, does the dual sim tray not support it?
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I did not use reminders note 3 pro but what do u you lack on this phone. Le 2 max has nut 3.5 mm audio jack, no SD card slot. In my opinion it would be only cpu upgrade.
If I help you please express it.
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The Le Max 2 has more RAM, a much faster SoC, better camera, better display. For $250 it's a no brainer, and it's gonna be a massive upgrade over the Redmi Note 3 Pro.
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The Le Max 2 has more RAM, a much faster SoC, better camera, better display. For $250 it's a no brainer, and it's gonna be a massive upgrade over the Redmi Note 3 Pro.
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Plus quickcharge 3.0, faster UFS2.0 storage and faster DDR4 RAM. Arguably better build too.
im think about getting the 6gb model when it drops below $$300
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im think about getting the 6gb model when it drops below $$300
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Honestly don't think the extra RAM will make any difference. Never come close to not having enough RAM with 4GB. But it's worth the extra spend just to get 64GB storage instead of 32GB.
People keep talking about the lack of 3.5 mm. The phone comes with a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter and it outputs great sound, so what is the issue?
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Honestly don't think the extra RAM will make any difference. Never come close to not having enough RAM with 4GB. But it's worth the extra spend just to get 64GB storage instead of 32GB.
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Fully agreed. 4GB will be enough even after 1 year from now, but 32GB will not be if you store videos/music on the phone. 4GB/64GB is the best option in my opinion, regardless of brand/phone.
And if you are willing to wait enough, maybe you can get Pro3 for this amount. The 0.2" for the smaller screen make it much easier to handle (I've had 1s before Le Max2), the build quality seems better as per the reviews and the gold (closer to true gold) color is easier to get, same as the rose gold for the Le Max2. When I bought it (a month after release), the grey option was quite hard to find, and a few months later, the price dropped to ~250$ while I've paid 400$ for it.
I upgraded from Redmi Note 3 Pro to Le Max 2. I agree with most of what others wrote.
Le Max 2 is such a high quality device. Got 4Gb Ram version and am so happy with my decision. Using CN stock rom and it works so good that I don't have any intention to flash custom Roms or enabling root access. It's that good of a device for my needs. In all aspects and functions I use daily.
Hope I helped. Cheers
I would not swap. Simply because of software. I am really angry at myself for jumping the gun on this phone really early without knowing how the software will be like. the official firmware lacks and all custom firmware doesnt support all of the nice hardware the phone has.
If I could decide today, I would not buy it again.
Would like to know what the issues are that people have with the eui software. Almost every reviewer seems to slate it without giving any concrete examples of what they find so wrong with it other than "There's no app drawer" or "It has a useless live TV button" or "The quick settings have been moved to the multitasking tray at the bottom". Well, the first two are just related to the stock launcher. If you don't like that, it takes about three seconds to install a launcher more to your liking. Not an issue worth complaining about. As for the quick settings being in a different place, frankly who gives a damn. It takes a day or two to get used to and then you can get on with using it pretty much exactly the same as ever.
I also don't understand why people complain. The software is mature an everything works stable every day of use 24/7.
I respect those that prefer different ROMs and yet coming from other phones - Nubia z7 mini, Redmi Note 3 Pro - I got tired of flashing, modding and meddling with my phone.
As it is right now - LeMax 2 is the best phone for the money. All those worldwide working band frequencies, amazing display, ultra fast storage, memory and CPU/GPU, stellar sound quality and two satisfactory cameras.
If you want to throw money for a device that will perform mostly the same functions for more money - then go away and do it. This is a Smartphone and its primary function is to perform phonecalls so every other function you get should be considered a bonus.
Buy more expensive brands and pay for their marketing campaigns included in the price. All top brand phones cost around 160 USD to mass produce. Why pay more for a thing that will become "old" in 6 months or less?
I bought it to do phonecalls and the hardware and software performance is excellent. No letdowns whatsoever.
Need a camera - buy a dedicated one, need better software - build your own ROM etc.
OP asked if this would be a good trade from a lower tier device and it definitely would be a step up in every way.
I know as I sold RMN3 Pro to get Le X2.
I want to buy le max 2 today. But heard that it has heating issues. Does it ?
What other issues does it has. If it has issues ,please suggest another similar phone.
i dont know where u hear that this phone have heating issues its a lie
you can get this phone for 190$ from aliexpress for the 32gb you cant get better deal then that for sd 820 and 4gb ram
No heating issues but fp issues
No heating problem at all. In fact, it is temperature wise, the coolest phone I have ever used.
The fp sensor is not perfect, but it is not as bad as some people had said. Just stick with the stock ROM.
The phone is good. It has no heating issues. But the fingerprint scanner is a hit or miss, I would say 50% chance it works and 50% chance it works not or really bad.
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I want to buy le max 2 today. But heard that it has heating issues. Does it ?
What other issues does it has. If it has issues ,please suggest another similar phone.
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As already said some finger print sensors fail in hardware manner. No SD card. Many battery saving techniques cause problems with notifications. Quick Charge works OK, GPS works OK. Ask more specific questions.
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Guys will you suggest OnePlus 3 or this one?
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Guys will you suggest OnePlus 3 or this one?
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OP3 is almost twice more expensive. And also no SD card slot. X820 has bigger density. Please enter gsmarena and make comparison of this models and study line by line.
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For this price you can't get better phone
Can I update this to Android 7? Is there an official update for this?.
I did comparison ,found this camera, display better than OnePlus 3 ..My only concern is update to Android 7 and customization.
Also does rooting void any warranty? Does it Knox kind of stuff on it?
1) If your only concern is Android 7 and customization, there is one sure answer: Google Pixel or Pixel XL.
2) If you want to spend around 220-230$ for a phone, this is one of the best at this price.
3) If you have a little bit more money, get the OP3 if you have nothing against Amoled. Still I think that a 5.5 inch display phone is handled better than a 5.7.
Keep in mind that you can't buy a Dacia Logan and expect it to drive like a C-Klasse. These being said, check your priorities and act accordingly, there are plenty threads here with what is good/bad about this phone. Check the threads of your other options and decide for you. Maybe Le Max2 is very good for me but not so for you, or maybe you'll find OP3 a good one but I might not stand it's display.
Different folks, different strokes.
I currently own a nexus 6. This would be my second phone.. didn't want to spend too much money hence didn't think about pixel and also want a dual sim phone.
I will go through the threads..i did go through the reviews online and found OnePlus 3 and le max 2 were similar spec, performance wise.
I like the Android 7, so if Android 7 was available for le max 2,my search for second phone would have been over.
I would suggest to go for op3 for better development & overall support.Fp is Awesome on op3 & Nougat is already there
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I would suggest to go for op3 for better development & overall support.Fp is Awesome on op3 & Nougat is already there
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The price is 2 to 1, might as well get a Samsung S7.
what about the Zuk z2 at 160 dollars ? or still x820 is a better choice? The 5.7" does not matter to me.
Looks like a good option, although on aliexpress I could find it at a min 180$, but still is ok. Now it depends if development is better than on X820 or not...
I was able to get the rose gold (pink) version of the LeMax2 for $195. Anyone have a cheap source for gray?
Hi guys,
I have been using an elephone p7000 since I bought it on their launch promotion. The lack of rom support and a few issues have finally made me consider a new phone. The Le Max 2 seems the best value for $180 USD for the 32GB version. Should I be looking elsewhere?
Thanks
crazyazz said:
Hi guys,
I have been using an elephone p7000 since I bought it on their launch promotion. The lack of rom support and a few issues have finally made me consider a new phone. The Le Max 2 seems the best value for $180 USD for the 32GB version. Should I be looking elsewhere?
Thanks
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I would say dont buy it as the support for le max 2 is very less. Buy something else, dont fall for the price with high specs. Also it has some problems with its display, the colors are not so natural
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crazyazz said:
Hi guys,
I have been using an elephone p7000 since I bought it on their launch promotion. The lack of rom support and a few issues have finally made me consider a new phone. The Le Max 2 seems the best value for $180 USD for the 32GB version. Should I be looking elsewhere?
Thanks
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Bought it recently, came from a Mediatek device, and I'm happy with the move.
If you're OK with no headphone jack, I would say it's definitely worth it. Camera is a BIG upgrade to me, if that's important to you. Rom support is also a step from any Mediatek device (for obvious reasons). Build quality is very good, battery life is also good considering it's a QHD screen, screen itself is OK in terms of colour reproduction, no issues with outdoor sunlight. Just installed Lineage OS 14.1 and it's working great.
Maybe pay a bit more for the 64GB version if you need more space.
powerasp said:
I would say dont buy it as the support for le max 2 is very less. Buy something else, dont fall for the price with high specs. Also it has some problems with its display, the colors are not so natural
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Who on XDA cares about support? And my display is fine.
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Who on XDA cares about support? And my display is fine.
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Nope display is not fine and by display i mean colors. The colors on custom roms are way too much saturated. If you use any different phone from different vendor for 2-3 weeks then the colors of leeco starts annoying. Even the colors on the stock rom is not good, it is better compared to custom rom but still not so accurate.
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Who on XDA cares about support? And my display is fine.
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And support doesn't only means software support(never said anything about warranty). If some accident happens with phone's hardware, may it be screen, camera glass or any other hardware part then you cant get anything original to repair it. You have to opt for some different low quality hardware for which you will be charged quite the same as original one. So if anyone is going to buy anything new, its better not to buy anything from a closed company
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Nope display is not fine and by display i mean colors. The colors on custom roms are way too much saturated. If you use any different phone from different vendor for 2-3 weeks then the colors of leeco starts annoying. Even the colors on the stock rom is not good, it is better compared to custom rom but still not so accurate.
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And support doesn't only means software support(never said anything about warranty). If some accident happens with phone's hardware, may it be screen, camera glass or any other hardware part then you cant get anything original to repair it. You have to opt for some different low quality hardware for which you will be charged quite the same as original one. So if anyone is going to buy anything new, its better not to buy anything from a closed company
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Sent from a Redmi Note 3 ^^
... we are talking about 190€ for a Le max 2 ... Softwaresupport is good... problems are there but most are solveable and repairs ? in that price range you talk about repairs ? ^^
for a Samsung galaxy that s not a screen repair
derulf said:
Sent from a Redmi Note 3 ^^
... we are talking about 190€ for a Le max 2 ... Softwaresupport is good... problems are there but most are solveable and repairs ? in that price range you talk about repairs ? ^^
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Lol so basically he should even let his 190€ go to waste. And no problem in it is solvable, like the colors are over saturated, repair that. I have a redmi note 3 too. And guess what i use my note 3 as primary device cause this phone even in a custom rom slower than note 3. Yes on reality it should be more faster and should produce more nice results even in terms of gpu but when i install same thing on this phone and note 3,note 3 installs it faster. When i play war robots, this phone will make me wait more 2-3 seconds even when the timer has ended to start the match, no such problems in note 3. Lets agree to disagree that this phone has better chip but its not good because the implementation of the chipset is bad, a 2k resolution burns up all the battery and takes a whole lot of cpu and gpu.
Try some other phones with 650 or above chipsets from some other companies, you would know what i am referring to. This phone just doesnt performs as a 820. And one of my friend recently got a mi A1 and guess what, its camera is better compared to this one. I never thought that can be possible so i tested it for 15mins and mi A1 won.
And dont waste your money, better buy something else if you want to use it for 2 more years. This phone wont get any far even with development on xda. While the new phone which are released nowadays will get development for more than 3-4 years as after all this phone is already 1 year old. I would say go for honor 9i,its chipset would be even better compared to sd630 as kirin655 was better compared to sd625
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@powerasp
Why he will waste his money, solid mobile 4/64 only 200$ with all these specs. please be logical :/
I recommend this mobile for any one as it is good daily used, lot of support here also.
AhmadSant said:
@powerasp
Why he will waste his money, solid mobile 4/64 only 200$ with all these specs. please be logical :/
I recommend this mobile for any one as it is good daily used, lot of support here also.
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Lol read the above comment, it has all details why he shouldnt buy it
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you can have look here
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/leeco-le-max-2,xiaomi-redmi-note-3-pro
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you can have look here
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/leeco-le-max-2,xiaomi-redmi-note-3-pro
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I dont need to look anywhere, i have used the device myself. Tell me do you have the device and if you have it what device did you had before that and when did you bought leeco le max 2
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I dont need to look anywhere, i have used the device myself. Tell me do you have the device and if you have it what device did you had before that and when did you bought leeco le max 2
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it's funny to hear them from you a redmi pro 3 user.
Plese say me which phone giving you this specs and this prices.
You can buy Le Max 2. I dont have problems with colors. My screen panel is sharp igzo
rapstar338 said:
it's funny to hear them from you a redmi pro 3 user.
Plese say me which phone giving you this specs and this prices.
You can buy Le Max 2. I dont have problems with colors. My screen panel is sharp igzo
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I never said colors are problems but if you any good phone from nowadays, you would see that the colors are oversaturated. Also i think you guys are not reading my comments so stop asking same question again and again that who gives this specs at this price. Wait a sec let me edit this as i copy my other comment cause you definitely didnt read it
Lol so basically he should even let his 190€ go to waste. And no problem in it is solvable, like the colors are over saturated, repair that. I have a redmi note 3 too. And guess what i use my note 3 as primary device cause this phone even in a custom rom slower than note 3. Yes on reality it should be more faster and should produce more nice results even in terms of gpu but when i install same thing on this phone and note 3,note 3 installs it faster. When i play war robots, this phone will make me wait more 2-3 seconds even when the timer has ended to start the match, no such problems in note 3. Lets agree to disagree that this phone has better chip but its not good because the implementation of the chipset is bad, a 2k resolution burns up all the battery and takes a whole lot of cpu and gpu.
Try some other phones with 650 or above chipsets from some other companies, you would know what i am referring to. This phone just doesnt performs as a 820. And one of my friend recently got a mi A1 and guess what, its camera is better compared to this one. I never thought that can be possible so i tested it for 15mins and mi A1 won.
And dont waste your money, better buy something else if you want to use it for 2 more years. This phone wont get any far even with development on xda. While the new phone which are released nowadays will get development for more than 3-4 years as after all this phone is already 1 year old. I would say go for honor 9i,its chipset would be even better compared to sd630 as kirin655 was better compared to sd625
Okay copied whole of it
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Lol so basically he should even let his 190€ go to waste. And no problem in it is solvable, like the colors are over saturated, repair that. I have a redmi note 3 too. And guess what i use my note 3 as primary device cause this phone even in a custom rom slower than note 3. Yes on reality it should be more faster and should produce more nice results even in terms of gpu but when i install same thing on this phone and note 3,note 3 installs it faster. When i play war robots, this phone will make me wait more 2-3 seconds even when the timer has ended to start the match, no such problems in note 3. Lets agree to disagree that this phone has better chip but its not good because the implementation of the chipset is bad, a 2k resolution burns up all the battery and takes a whole lot of cpu and gpu.
Try some other phones with 650 or above chipsets from some other companies, you would know what i am referring to. This phone just doesnt performs as a 820. And one of my friend recently got a mi A1 and guess what, its camera is better compared to this one. I never thought that can be possible so i tested it for 15mins and mi A1 won.
And dont waste your money, better buy something else if you want to use it for 2 more years. This phone wont get any far even with development on xda. While the new phone which are released nowadays will get development for more than 3-4 years as after all this phone is already 1 year old. I would say go for honor 9i,its chipset would be even better compared to sd630 as kirin655 was better compared to sd625
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My colours are fine, and workspeed isn't slower than on similar devices (one plus), there are enough vids on YouTube. I agree that missing spare parts are a problem, but the situation wasn't different on my last phone, which was a popular mainstream device.
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My colours are fine, and workspeed isn't slower than on similar devices (one plus), there are enough vids on YouTube. I agree that missing spare parts are a problem, but the situation wasn't different on my last phone, which was a popular mainstream device.
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So now you tell it yourself that after a year when this phone is already 1 year old with no support of hardware, will you recommend it to buy someone. Will you yourself buy it at this point of time when the next year is so close and next year's mid range phones are coming here whose camera will beat it without any doubt and also they will get better hardware support and better software support from xda.
I would say he should wait this year or should go for coolpad cool 6 as it sports a nice camera with 653 soc. But this is way too outdated.
The main problem is, this phone hasnt sold much due to which even the support from xda is not so huge as compared to redmi note 3(speaking from personal experience) which came early than it but have been sold twice more than le max 2. Basically the one which sells more gets more support from xda afterall the devs do want their work to be appreciated by more people
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So now you tell it yourself that after a year when this phone is already 1 year old with no support of hardware, will you recommend it to buy someone. Will you yourself buy it at this point of time when the next year is so close and next year's mid range phones are coming here whose camera will beat it without any doubt and also they will get better hardware support and better software support from xda.
I would say he should wait this year or should go for coolpad cool 6 as it sports a nice camera with 653 soc. But this is way too outdated.
The main problem is, this phone hasnt sold much due to which even the support from xda is not so huge as compared to redmi note 3(speaking from personal experience) which came early than it but have been sold twice more than le max 2. Basically the one which sells more gets more support from xda afterall the devs do want their work to be appreciated by more people
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There are more than enough good ROMs on XDA, I really don't know why you wish more support. I would never buy a phone with a 6xx soc if I can get an 820 for the same money. The 1440p display is great for VR, but you are right, in daily use you probably wont notice a difference, it's just nice to be able to say "retina? haha now that's some low res ****". So I would recommend it, but only if you like to play around with different ROMs, flash tweaks, etc.
If you want to have a phone ready to use out of the box you should take another one.
I guess it depends on where you are and how cheap it is. I bought mine from ebay(US) for $200 (64 GB version). Had mine for a few months (its an x829) and I've had no issues with it. Fingerprint scanner works(though sometimes it does requiere more than 1 try, no screen flickering issues. The phone itself is not bad, ive flashed a couple of custom roms but always end up going back to modified stock. I would definitely recomend this phone, or the LE pro 3. Good bang for buck on both of them. Sure, we might never see official nougat but that doesnt bother me at least.
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I guess it depends on where you are and how cheap it is. I bought mine from ebay(US) for $200 (64 GB version). Had mine for a few months (its an x829) and I've had no issues with it. Fingerprint scanner works(though sometimes it does requiere more than 1 try, no screen flickering issues. The phone itself is not bad, ive flashed a couple of custom roms but always end up going back to modified stock. I would definitely recomend this phone, or the LE pro 3. Good bang for buck on both of them. Sure, we might never see official nougat but that doesnt bother me at least.
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In stock rom this phone's power is way too low. Not even close to a 650 on custom rom
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powerasp said:
In stock rom this phone's power is way too low. Not even close to a 650 on custom rom
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Dunno, I do some gaming and havent noticed lag on my emulators (ppsspp, epsxe) or in heavy games (I played unkilled and dead trigger, as well as a few MMOs.) I use crisballgreece rom with AKT profiles so whenever i play i use performance profiles. For me, the phone is ok, but only if you can get it cheap. The pro 3 is less than $200 on amazon US. Snapdragon 821 but the camera is a bit worse and screen is a bit smaller.
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Dunno, I do some gaming and havent noticed lag on my emulators (ppsspp, epsxe) or in heavy games (I played unkilled and dead trigger, as well as a few MMOs.) I use crisballgreece rom with AKT profiles so whenever i play i use performance profiles. For me, the phone is ok, but only if you can get it cheap. The pro 3 is less than $200 on amazon US. Snapdragon 821 but the camera is a bit worse and screen is a bit smaller.
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Yes i am not denying that the phone isnt best at its price rate but one shouldnt go for it majorly because the colors are oversaturated compared to other phones. Brightness is not so high as it should be. Stock rom is best but performance in it sucks. Also its already 1 year old phone so even the support from the xda will get less. So he should better buy something of this year or wait 4 or 5 more months to get hands on the good phones from next year
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