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Google says no speed difference.... so I am wondering if I really need a card or not.
Other than for music, videos, etc... do most of you install apps to internal storage or to your SD?
The B&N version of Android doesn't play well with moving apps to the SD. They install to the larger (15GB?) B&N partition anyway, so it really doesn't matter spacewise. On my phone, I do move some larger apps to the SD, but I haven't even worried about it on the NT.
There are more than 11G internal storage you can use to install apps,big enough
But some apps need a sdcard to run
If you haven't one, you cannot run it
Yep, I've noticed that apps I've tried to run from the sdcard don't seem to work most of the time.
Tel864 said:
Yep, I've noticed that apps I've tried to run from the sdcard don't seem to work most of the time.
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Yeah , I concur ... 12Gb (after rooting) of internal [/data] is good enough
I just bought a new SGSII and I'm finding the storage mounts a bit strange. I'm seeing that there is a "usb storage" on the phone as well as the external SD storage. However, it is not allowing me to "Move to SD Card" for the phone's storage and requiring me to use my (slower) external SD card. I've tried to use the ADB "pm setInstallLocation" command to force it internal, but that doesn't seem to work either. Is there any way to use the USB storage on the phone for "app 2 sd"?
Thanks,
Craig
Did you read the FAQ?
I did (before I rooted), but even reviewing again now I'm not seeing anything relative to this. What am I missing?
That there's no benefit to moving apps to the external SD with this phone's file system and amount of built-in storage. Save the ext_SD for your data, movie and music files.
I didn't see that. However, I'm confused by this. I was not being allowed to reinstall some of the apps I had installed on my Captivate since I was out of space. Move to SD cleared up space so that I could finish restoring my apps.
I wonder if something is not set up quite right on my device?
Which app are you trying to move?
Everything should be installed on your phone automatically unless you change it to your card. Unless a Rom you are using has it set differently, I think ShoStock has an option to do that automatically.
I don't think I was entirely clear in my question. My device has:
1) Internal Phone Storage
2) Internal "USB" Phone Storage
3) External SD Card Storage
By default, applications are installed to #1 which is a smaller partition and bound to fill up. If I chose "Move to SD Card", it automatically goes to #3 and yet I want to put it on #2 and I'm not allowed to do that. If I pull out my external SD card, those applications will disappear. I'd like to be able to have "Move to SD Card" use #2 instead of #3, as that storage is not removable and will also (theoretically) be faster.
This is how it worked on my Captivate (both stock and Cyanogenmod), so I'm very confused about what is going on with this and I'd really like to change things up to work as I'd like.
Thanks for insights,
Craig
The Captivate uses a different file system and mounting system than the SGSII. You would be better off to redownload the apps from the Market, then restore just the data for those apps. I had major problem with restoring my Captivate TiBU backup to my SGSII until I did this. Your problem is that the apps that were installed to the SD card on the Cappy do not have the same corresponding place on the SGSII. Trust me, reinstalling from the Market and then restoring the data is the best bet.
That is exactly what I did. However, it still does not change the fact that I'm not allowed to use internal SD storage when I move applications.
Considering that the internal USB storage is not an actual SD card, the App to SD function is working properly. The SGSII considers that to be extended system storage, not an actual SD card.
What is extended system storage supposed to be used for? This is new to me.
User generated data like photos, music, videos, downloads. Just not apps.
OK. Thanks. I guess I'm not thrilled with the way this is being done now, but it sounds like I don't have much of a choice on top of stock ROM.
How many other phones give you 32gb of internal storage separate from RAM and the option to add another 32gb externally? Be happy.
Sorry... Didn't mean to sound completely unhappy... Just forces me to re-think my use of storage... To some extent it may actually *reverse* my previous use of storage.
No worries. I came to Android from years with WinMo devices. This is my 2nd Android phone and it always takes a little while to adjust.
This is my second Android phone as well.... along with multiple ROMs on the last phone. Which is why I'm always amazed at the number of different ways these things get partitioned.
Hi,
It is my first Sony android phone (with a SD card slot). I was wondering if this oddity with internal storage and SD card relationship is across all Sony androids, or unique to ZU.
Basically, when I use Astro File manager, it looks like there are 2 SD cards mounted. I guess SDcard0 is the internal storage, and SDcard1 is the actual SD card.
Now, I also see an ''emulated'' SDcard, whatever that is.
MY MAIN PROBLEM IS THAT NOT ONLY DO I NOT UNDERSTAND THE WAY IT IS LAID OUT, I ALSO CANNOT MOVE APPS (and more importantly, massive data that goes for these apps) TO SD CARD TO PRESERVE INTERNAL STORAGE.
All those apps in play stores don't seem to work, because none of them actually recognise an external SDcard storage in y Z ultra.
Do I need to wait for ZU to be rootable so that these problems can be overcome?
Or is there a neat trick to get around this?
Thanks in advance
jewelkobayashi said:
Hi,
It is my first Sony android phone (with a SD card slot). I was wondering if this oddity with internal storage and SD card relationship is across all Sony androids, or unique to ZU.
Basically, when I use Astro File manager, it looks like there are 2 SD cards mounted. I guess SDcard0 is the internal storage, and SDcard1 is the actual SD card.
Now, I also see an ''emulated'' SDcard, whatever that is.
MY MAIN PROBLEM IS THAT NOT ONLY DO I NOT UNDERSTAND THE WAY IT IS LAID OUT, I ALSO CANNOT MOVE APPS (and more importantly, massive data that goes for these apps) TO SD CARD TO PRESERVE INTERNAL STORAGE.
All those apps in play stores don't seem to work, because none of them actually recognise an external SDcard storage in y Z ultra.
Do I need to wait for ZU to be rootable so that these problems can be overcome?
Or is there a neat trick to get around this?
Thanks in advance
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Once rooted you can use an app like foldermount, but you are going to have to wait for the root to be released first.
baileyjr said:
Once rooted you can use an app like foldermount, but you are going to have to wait for the root to be released first.
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Thanks! Please tell me that it is a matter of time before Z ultra is also rootable. If so, I can wait patiently:fingers-crossed:
Has there ever been an unrootable android thus far?
jewelkobayashi said:
Thanks! Please tell me that it is a matter of time before Z ultra is also rootable. If so, I can wait patiently:fingers-crossed:
Has there ever been an unrootable android thus far?
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There's only a matter of time until it gets rooted (Happy? ) And no, not that i know of.
jewelkobayashi said:
All those apps in play stores don't seem to work, because none of them actually recognise an external SDcard storage in y Z ultra.
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Hi, still waiting for my XZU. BTW, what do you mean that your apps can't recognize the external storage? My experience with other phones with 'emulated' internal storage didn't prevent the apps from recognizing the 'real' external SD card.. There is usually also an option to choose which storage is used as default - at least on my previous huawei ascend P1. Can anyone confirm this on their XZU?
edit: as default here means as the main storage for apps data (picture for camera apps, downloads from browsers, downloadable content for some apps, etc), not the installed apps and system data
unk_damnation said:
Hi, still waiting for my XZU. BTW, what do you mean that your apps can't recognize the external storage? My experience with other phones with 'emulated' internal storage didn't prevent the apps from recognizing the 'real' external SD card.. There is usually also an option to choose which storage is used as default - at least on my previous huawei ascend P1. Can anyone confirm this on their XZU?
edit: as default here means as the main storage for apps data (picture for camera apps, downloads from browsers, downloadable content for some apps, etc), not the installed apps and system data
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What I meant by 'not recognising' (I could have phrased it better) is that yes, I can access it from any apps except that they are labelled as SDcard0 and SDcard1. What I tried to say was that for those not familiar, it seems confusing. If the internal memory is actually an SD card hidden away deep inside, I can kind of understand, but the way this phone is set up, it looks as if there are 2 external SD cards (which of course, there aren't) and no internal storage.
If there is a way to choose where certain apps can store their relevant data, I would like to know how for VIBER, Beyond Pod (podcast player) and Androrec (call recorder). I am assuming that there is no systematic way of selecting storage destination (via android or Xperia interface), and that these apps don't offer such features in their settings, and that we need to wait till the day some hard working genius figures out how to root the ZU.
Where?
baileyjr said:
Once rooted you can use an app like foldermount, but you are going to have to wait for the root to be released first.
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When installing apps off playstore, where is it saved? sdcard0, sdcard1, extsd, emulated?
When using foldermount, what should be the destination folder (to mount it on my external sd card)?
I really want to know more about those storage locations because it confuses me all the time especially some of them contain the same files
Thank you
Jerika said:
When installing apps off playstore, where is it saved? sdcard0, sdcard1, extsd, emulated?
When using foldermount, what should be the destination folder (to mount it on my external sd card)?
I really want to know more about those storage locations because it confuses me all the time especially some of them contain the same files
Thank you
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Using solid explorer and things are far more clear on it (recognize directly which is what) but to make it simple:
-SDcard0 and emulated are the internal memory
-SDcard 1 and extra are your SDcard
So if you wish to move an app to your SDcard send it to SDcard 1.
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How to solve this problem in Xperia Z (C6602)... I cant move any apps to my ext SD card ????
Hello,
I know this may have been covered already, but I'm somewhat confused.
I have cm11 installed on my SGP5 and it runs fine. However, I'm up to my storage
limit on the internal storage (~1.5GB) even though most of my apps are on USB
storage, and USB storage still has a couple of GB available. What are my options?
I've tried to digest references to Link2SD but I wonder whether I have to format
and partition the external SD first. I have quite a bit of data on the external SD card,
so I don't want to format, if possible. I have also seen references to flipping internal
and external storage or joining both. They confuse me even more!
Is there any way to access that free 2GB of USB storage? Can I resize any of the internal partitions?
I do have experience with partitioning tools on Windows.
Thank you,
System Cleaner Root App
rjolbrich said:
Hello,
I know this may have been covered already, but I'm somewhat confused.
I have cm11 installed on my SGP5 and it runs fine. However, I'm up to my storage
limit on the internal storage (~1.5GB) even though most of my apps are on USB
storage, and USB storage still has a couple of GB available. What are my options?
I've tried to digest references to Link2SD but I wonder whether I have to format
and partition the external SD first. I have quite a bit of data on the external SD card,
so I don't want to format, if possible. I have also seen references to flipping internal
and external storage or joining both. They confuse me even more!
Is there any way to access that free 2GB of USB storage? Can I resize any of the internal partitions?
I do have experience with partitioning tools on Windows.
Thank you,
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Has anyone used the app System Cleaner Root? I tried it, and it freed hundreds of MB
on my internal storage. Could someone explain exactly how it works. I did a search
on Google Play for "dalvik cache" and this app led the list!
Thanks
Hey guys, I just got this amazing phone/tablet/game console.
The 32GB internal storage is little bit not enough.
Is it possible to move Games or obb files to SD or even better format SD as internal storage?
Speed is not a problem i have 128GB UHS-3 SD card.
Thanks for any help.
You could try to format the sdcard as adoptable storage as described in this article. I am using ithis on my phone (which has Nougat 7.1.1) together with a 64GB card. 32GB as adoptable storage and 32GB as normal sdcard. But it should work on Oreo, too.
Thats what i want to do but it looks like the option is missing...
you need to do it by using adb on the command line later on it's mounted correctly automatically
Edit: I just tried it, unfortunately there are some permissions missing ...
Bought 128 Go scard for my 8.4 M5.
Can't find a way to move apps on sdcard or use adoptable storage...
It does not seem available.
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There is a setting in Developer Options to force allow app installs to external storage. I'm sure there are also root apps for the purpose.
Of course, unless an app is really large or you are running real low on free space, you don't really want to install apps to an SD card.
thref23 said:
There is a setting in Developer Options to force allow app installs to external storage. I'm sure there are also root apps for the purpose.
Of course, unless an app is really large or you are running real low on free space, you don't really want to install apps to an SD card.
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I doubt that this setting allows to install apps to external SD card but allows only to store their data on SD card.
AndDiSa said:
I doubt that this setting allows to install apps to external SD card but allows only to store their data on SD card.
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Yes, I can confirm that only the data is affected. I have activated "Force allow apps on external" in the developer options (third to last entry) and I have also set "Storage" -> "Default location" to "SD Card".
Nevertheless the apps I have then installed (Drastic -> not maovable my default, Deus Ex Go -> movable by default) both installed to the internal memory and only the data is moved.
This being said, for everyone with root and € 1,99 to spare I highly recommend Link2SD Plus. This app can not only move entire apps to the SD card, but also only the OBB-files (but only in the paid version). This reduces e.g. Lego Marvel Superheroes to a managable 12,97 MB in the internal memory and 1,84 GB on the SD card. Mission accomplished, IMO.
Though if you want to squeeze that additional 5 MB out and move everyting to the SD, Link2SD requires a separate partition on the card. So I rather stick with moving the OBB only.
One last remark regarding Adopted Storage: I have used that in 2 devices and it signifficantly reduced the life of both cards (Samsung EVO 64 GB). In the gaming tablet (NVIDIA Shield K1) the card stopped working after about 9 months, causing the tablet to reboot after a few minutes. Removing the card fixed this. In the phone (Sony Z5) the card lasted longer, about 13 months, but failed in a similar manner. And during all this other (and older) EVO cards I have bought for the family still perform well.
So I might have had bad luck or maybe I did something wrong but currently I can not recommend using Adopted Storage.
Sokraates said:
Yes, I can confirm that only the data is affected. I have activated "Force allow apps on external" in the developer options (third to last entry) and I have also set "Storage" -> "Default location" to "SD Card".
Nevertheless the apps I have then installed (Drastic -> not maovable my default, Deus Ex Go -> movable by default) both installed to the internal memory and only the data is moved.
This being said, for everyone with root and € 1,99 to spare I highly recommend Link2SD Plus. This app can not only move entire apps to the SD card, but also only the OBB-files (but only in the paid version). This reduces e.g. Lego Marvel Superheroes to a managable 12,97 MB in the internal memory and 1,84 GB on the SD card. Mission accomplished, IMO.
Though if you want to squeeze that additional 5 MB out and move everyting to the SD, Link2SD requires a separate partition on the card. So I rather stick with moving the OBB only.
One last remark regarding Adopted Storage: I have used that in 2 devices and it signifficantly reduced the life of both cards (Samsung EVO 64 GB). In the gaming tablet (NVIDIA Shield K1) the card stopped working after about 9 months, causing the tablet to reboot after a few minutes. Removing the card fixed this. In the phone (Sony Z5) the card lasted longer, about 13 months, but failed in a similar manner. And during all this other (and older) EVO cards I have bought for the family still perform well.
So I might have had bad luck or maybe I did something wrong but currently I can not recommend using Adopted Storage.
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Oh so that's what the default storage thing does, I clicked on it thinking it would change the default save for in the future, but rather it deleted some game files (obb I think-no progress deleted). So I have to download it again, quite annoying as currently I have poor wifi, and the 1.5gb download would take well ages
Also the default location setting made VLC not see the difference between internal storage and sd card, it was like all merged together in "internal storage"
**edit**
Also it is a bit buggy, i downloaded an app with a hard-drive connected to the tablet through USB and it downloaded to that! I unplugged it and got loads of errors.
This a deal breaker for me so no adoptable storage?
Can anyone please recommend any other options for adoptable storage. I am rooted and have tried openkirin ROMs but none have support for adoptable storage. Have also tried some apps in the play store but none are working as intended. All I just want is to use an SD card as part of internal adoptable storage.
I need this as well, happy to install custom ROM if this is whats needed but would like to extend beyound the 32gb with a card
Solved in Developer Options
1. System
2. About tablet
3. Tap Build number until you get the message: You are now a developer
4. Go back to the System menu and tap Developer Options
5. Bottom of the menu, enable Force allow apps on external storage
All new apps will now be stored on the SD. Apps already installed cannot be migrated. These steps can be followed without root
boreskull said:
1. System
2. About tablet
3. Tap Build number until you get the message: You are now a developer
4. Go back to the System menu and tap Developer Options
5. Bottom of the menu, enable Force allow apps on external storage
All new apps will now be stored on the SD. Apps already installed cannot be migrated. These steps can be followed without root
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No, this option *allows* to read/write data to SD independently whether they requested the permission or not. Unfortunately apps will be still installed on internal storage
AndDiSa said:
No, this option *allows* to read/write data to SD independently whether they requested the permission or not. Unfortunately apps will be still installed on internal storage
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I'm using this on my MediaPad M5 10 and it works. All my apps are being installed on the SD. This solution is based on practical experience not theory.
If you ensure the default storage location is set to external storage...
I realise I missed some steps. Here follows exactly what I did.
1. Factory reset
2. After initial setup, format the SD card
3. Go to Settings
3. Storage
4. Change the default storage to external
5. System
6. About tablet
7. Tap Build number until you get the message: You are now a developer
8. Go back to the System menu and tap Developer Options
9. Bottom of the menu, enable Force allow apps on external storage
All my apps now install on the SD. I use this tablet for gaming so the limited storage was a deal breaker for me until I did this.
boreskull said:
I realise I missed some steps. Here follows exactly what I did.
1. Factory reset
2. After initial setup, format the SD card
3. Go to Settings
3. Storage
4. Change the default storage to external
5. System
6. About tablet
7. Tap Build number until you get the message: You are now a developer
8. Go back to the System menu and tap Developer Options
9. Bottom of the menu, enable Force allow apps on external storage
All my apps now install on the SD. I use this tablet for gaming so the limited storage was a deal breaker for me until I did this.
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Thanks so definitely all your apps are now installed on sd card?
marvi0 said:
Thanks so definitely all your apps are now installed on sd card?
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Yep
? Many thanks buddy. I had actually sold of the tablet and now debating whether or not I should get one again as this was the reason I sold it off. Would you mind posting a screenshot of what your storage settings now looks like please with all apps now being installed on sd card. Is the sd card memory now part of overall system memory?
marvi0 said:
? Many thanks buddy. I had actually sold of the tablet and now debating whether or not I should get one again as this was the reason I sold it off. Would you mind posting a screenshot of what your storage settings now looks like please with all apps now being installed on sd card. Is the sd card memory now part of overall system memory?
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https://www.dropbox.com/sh/353s3fag5i5pwnw/AABjtdRkwPzCjygh_yUxt7Eka?dl=0
About 12GB is system data on the internal storage.
After installing 43 GB of apps (Games) my internal storage has 18GB and the SD Card has 37GB