I have kenzo cyanogen ROM installed (13.0-20160617 unofficial kenzo) I have used Lloyds banking app for a long time but tonight it tells me I can't log in as using a rooted or jail broken device. I haven't updated the app for a while or ran any other updates.
Is this room rooted by default? As I didn't think it was and I didn't think I had root.
Is there a way to fix it so I can use my banking app again?
It has a root option which you can enable. I can suggest trying root cloak but that also means you'll have to install xposed. Make sure root is turned off in dev settings and clear the cache/data of the banking app before trying root cloak. Otherwise you may have to settle for their website.
Root is off in the developer options. I wonder if the banking app can see the ROM or something else is not stock? Its frustrating as it was the reason I didn't root my phonephone/want it rooted.
I noticed that even installing an older version of the app I get same error so maybe something else has changed . if a system app has somehow updated and caused this? I am still on the original ROM from june. I haven't installed nightlies.
Either that or my account has somehow been flagged so even old app versions dont work(deleted data and folders etc from the app first.)
regarding ths problem - Im guessing its not looking at root as this is disabled, but it can see either an unsupported rom, or something else. Can i flash a different rom (prefereably not Miui) and regain the banking app? a rom that would be classes as supported?
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Is there a way to install an apk as a system app? I want to 'unroot' a device but still run an app that requires root access. I'm unsure of how this can be done, any advise would be very much appreciated!
Thanks
I know that the Z4 root app has an option for temp root functions which goes back to an unrooted state once you reboot.
My guess is that you can run that, place your apk in the appropriate system folder, install the apk from there & then reboot.
But again I'm not to sure if temp root functions work on our G-Tabs & if it does if it's as simple as I explained. Worth a try I guess.
Again I'm assuming that your not already in a permanent root state. If so then you'll have to unroot completely first & then try what I mentioned above.
Unless someone has an easier method?
convert user apps to system apps
nikt said:
Is there a way to install an apk as a system app? I want to 'unroot' a device but still run an app that requires root access. I'm unsure of how this can be done, any advise would be very much appreciated!
Thanks
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Titanium Backup Pro (paid version 3.8.1 and higher) has a function that allows one to convert user apps-->system apps (as well as system app-->user app ... though this sometimes causes initial FCs, which generally disappear with reboot).
Not sure if the effect will remain after unrooting.
Just to clear up a bit, not because an app its on /system it will have root access. If you want to run an app that needs root, you need root, thats it. You cant unroot and use the app after that.
So, no you cant do that. Its 2 different things installing an app on /system than having root for an app.
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Just to clear up a bit, not because an app its on /system it will have root access. If you want to run an app that needs root, you need root, thats it. You cant unroot and use the app after that.
So, no you cant do that. Its 2 different things installing an app on /system than having root for an app.
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So then how do proprietary apps like Sprint Nascar (as an example) run on an unrooted phone?
Why would Sprint Nascar need root permision?
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Why would Sprint Nascar need root permision?
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It probably doesn't or it might I have no idea. The op never pointed out which apps he wants to use.
However & this is a big however, as I have no idea which apps require root access, one has to assume that any of the preinstalled apps that come on our G-Tabs do in fact need root access, yet they can run on an unrooted device. Again I could be wrong.
That being said, how does one go about determining which apps require root access?
Thanks for the replies guys. The issue is supporting proxy servers on unrooted devices. There are several proxy apps that require root access as well as a kernel that supports proxy. If the proxy app were installed as a system app, would this have enough rights to access the kernel as required? I don't know enough about this but was led to believe this might work if it was running as system. Same for apps that use CIFS, like mount manager. I guess I'll give it a try and see what happens...!
Like I said, being installed on System doesnt have anything to do with having root or not.
Im 95% sure about what I am saying.
edit: I confirmed it..so 100% sure, if the app needs root, you will need root no matter where the app is installed.
I'm trying to figure out a way to use my banks token application.
The problem is that it won't run, but simply say that it won't run on rooted devices for security reasons.
I'm running Slim ROM 4.3, and it has the toggle to disable root, but even after disabling adb/root, reboot, reinstall of the app, it still won't run.
What can the apps detect? A root checking app states that root is disabled.
Can these kinds of apps only run on stock kernels? Anyone that found some workaround?
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An age old question & one there isn't a solution for (other than running an unrooted stock phone).
Hi all, my SM-G9280 still cannot log into Snapchat. I've rooted the phone (since it doesn't come with Google Play Services). The android vers is 6.0.1 and Baseband is G9280ZCU2BPK1.
My phone is Chinese so it does not come with Google Play Services, and I have to root to get it.
I've tried :
1) RootCloak + Cydia Substrate. Doesn't work for some reason.
2) Xposed + Root Cloak. Installing the xposed framework crashes my phone and causes a bootloop. Recoverable by flashing the stock ROM and resetting phone though.
(EDIT: Xposed + Root Cloak does work now, I've added Snapchat to the list of root-hide apps, but it still does not allow me to log into Snapchat.)
3) Unrooting and Rerooting. Unrooting removes Google Play Services along with the root and Snapchat does not work if Google Play Services is not present.
I would try Titanium Backup with Snapchat except I don't have a second android device avaliable.
Is there any other solutions that I can do to log into Snapchat?
Can someone help me? Please?
Bump, can someone please help me?
Bumped again... Please someone help me with this issue.
First off why would removing root remove Google play services? This is not how this works. From the looks of it you have a china based device that didn't come with Google stuff installed. Take care of that first. Then root after.
Yeah, I have to root in order to get Google stuff.
As far as I know for my device there is no way to get Google Play Services other than rooting.
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Yeah, I have to root in order to get Google stuff.
As far as I know for my device there is no way to get Google Play Services other than rooting.
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Well then I would root get the Google stuff and unroot. As they are not connected you should be able to pull it off.
I tried that. But as soon as I unroot Google Play Services dissapears and when I unroot using SuperSU it causes a bootloop, which is solvable by flashing the custom ROM,
So that doesn't work. Or am I doing something wrong with the unrooting process?
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I tried that. But as soon as I unroot Google Play Services dissapears and when I unroot using SuperSU it causes a bootloop, which is solvable by flashing the custom ROM,
So that doesn't work. Or am I doing something wrong with the unrooting process?
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You are doing something wrong along the way. If you have a custom rom then you should have a custom recovery as well. At That point all you have to do is flash the rom and a gapps package. Dont flash any root apps. If they are built into the rom then that may be a bit harder to deal with.
I don't have a custom rom...
The way I got Google Play Services and Google Play to work is I rooted, then used a third-party app (Not OpenGApps) to install Google Play Services, the framework, and everything else.
I still have my stock rom, it's just rooted and has google play services that's all.
The fix is easy. Just grab another phone that is rooted but without Xposed Framework, you install SC and login. After login do a backup of the app with Titanium backup then move the backup to you Note 5/Galaxy s6+ and do a restore of the app's data (data has log in token). That's all ?
Now, if you don't own another phone then you have have to install stock ROM, then log in to your SC using the stock ROM without any modding (rooting) yet. After login root the phone and do a backup with Titanium backup. You can restore your Login data anytime after doing the backup. That's all.
I think that the problem with the log in may be because of the Knox counter in the ROM being triggered. Hope it's works for you. I use this exact method to fix the log in issue.
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The fix is easy. Just grab another phone that is rooted but without Xposed Framework, you install SC and login. After login do a backup of the app with Titanium backup then move the backup to you Note 5/Galaxy s6+ and do a restore of the app's data (data has log in token). That's all
Now, if you don't own another phone then you have have to install stock ROM, then log in to your SC using the stock ROM without any modding (rooting) yet. After login root the phone and do a backup with Titanium backup. You can restore your Login data anytime after doing the backup. That's all.
I think that the problem with the log in may be because of the Knox counter in the ROM being triggered. Hope it's works for you. I use this exact method to fix the log in issue.
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Read the OP.
I don't have another phone to do Titanium Backup.
When I install Stock ROM, Google Play Services and Framework is not installed therefore Snapchat doesn't work.
Would clearing EVERYTHING, then flashing Stock ROM, then getting OpenGApps help? Because if so then I can do that except i do not know how to setup OpenGApps...
Okay, so I got TWRP then flashed TWRP, then got OpenGApps to get Google Play Services.
I then unrooted but it took away Google Play Services and everything as well. I can't login to Snapchat.
Am I still doing something wrong here?
Bump, posted this on a couple of other forums and no one has replied with a solution
Someone help solve please
Bump.
Bump, I've been able to somehow install Xposed and root cloak. I've added Snapchat to the list to hide the root from the app, but it still won't let me log in.
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did you ever get it to work? ?
Cryslin111 said:
did you ever get it to work? ?
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Nope
I've posted this in several other forums and no one has helped me, or at least provided a solution.
I need help. Pretty clueless when it comes to technology. Bought new phone to use an app as my old one no longer supports the new updates.
New phone is Xgody LTE 4G with Android 6. The I want to use app does not work for security reasons? Browsed google using a few keywords. So far I've checked to see if the phone is rooted (not sure what this means) using Supersu app, no root found. Using SaftyNet the phone fails on basic integrity and CTS profile match, do not know what this means but I'm guessing it has something to do with the app not working.
I believe there is a work around. Have read something about Magisk which I think might hide whatever is on my phone from the SafetyNet tests and get the bank app working. The problem is I haven't a clue how to install this or what it is. Does anyone have a step by step guide how to do this, assuming the person doing the task hasn't got a clue? Any help appreciated.
jimmyshoottherunner said:
I need help. Pretty clueless when it comes to technology. Bought new phone to use an app as my old one no longer supports the new updates.
New phone is Xgody LTE 4G with Android 6. The I want to use app does not work for security reasons? Browsed google using a few keywords. So far I've checked to see if the phone is rooted (not sure what this means) using Supersu app, no root found. Using SaftyNet the phone fails on basic integrity and CTS profile match, do not know what this means but I'm guessing it has something to do with the app not working.
I believe there is a work around. Have read something about Magisk which I think might hide whatever is on my phone from the SafetyNet tests and get the bank app working. The problem is I haven't a clue how to install this or what it is. Does anyone have a step by step guide how to do this, assuming the person doing the task hasn't got a clue? Any help appreciated.
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Which app are you trying to run?
TIDE banking app. Contacted TIDE and they've said my phone must be rooted but I checked with SuperSu and no root was found? This is all new to me, feel a little lost but I'm learning, slowly.
jimmyshoottherunner said:
TIDE banking app. Contacted TIDE and they've said my phone must be rooted but I checked with SuperSu and no root was found? This is all new to me, feel a little lost but I'm learning, slowly.
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SuperSU might not be detecting root due to difference in su binary.
Try Root Checker Basic. You can get it from playstore.
jimmyshoottherunner said:
I need help. Pretty clueless when it comes to technology. Bought new phone to use an app as my old one no longer supports the new updates.
New phone is Xgody LTE 4G with Android 6. The I want to use app does not work for security reasons? Browsed google using a few keywords. So far I've checked to see if the phone is rooted (not sure what this means) using Supersu app, no root found. Using SaftyNet the phone fails on basic integrity and CTS profile match, do not know what this means but I'm guessing it has something to do with the app not working.
I believe there is a work around. Have read something about Magisk which I think might hide whatever is on my phone from the SafetyNet tests and get the bank app working. The problem is I haven't a clue how to install this or what it is. Does anyone have a step by step guide how to do this, assuming the person doing the task hasn't got a clue? Any help appreciated.
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Try and actually root the phone and then install Magisk root instead of supersu and use magisk hide it, or install hide my root
phone not rooted according to root checker basic
jimmyshoottherunner said:
phone not rooted according to root checker basic
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Is the phone brand new or is it secondhand?
The phone is new
Install magisk, it works.
Apparently, my bank updated the app with a new feature that doesn't let me access it anymore, it says that the operating system is not supported, i use a custom rom(AEX) in my Redmi 4x, i believe that the rom is the problem, the root is being hidden with MagiskHide and i have no problems with SafetyNet, maybe i can change some parameter in build.prop to make it work? i did something similar to try to run Fortnite in my phone a while ago, any ideas on what parameters may be relevant to that?
It's a brazilian bank(Banco Inter)
Need Solution for this Problem as Well
I have the same problem.
The new app version 8.4.6 is not working while up till version 8.4.5 it was working just fine.
Their support is absolutely clueless on how to help, but as @Levyks said, apparently they are blocking custom roms now.
Is it possible to make the custom rom look as an original rom from manufacturer?
Same problem.
I'm with the same problem...
IMHO has nothing to do with fact whether it's a Custom ROM or a Stock ROM. Any app ( banking apps included ) easily can find out whether present Android OS got tampered or not.
Same problem any help? Can't use my bank app... WhatsApp also can detect I have a custom ROM, any solution?
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Same problem any help? Can't use my bank app... WhatsApp also can detect I have a custom ROM, any solution?
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Many apps like banking / payment apps today detect whether Android is got rooted or not: it's an easy for them to do so.
Same problem here in Lineage OS 18.1. My non-rooted device pass safetynet and CTS by default. But many Banking application had started detecting that I am using custom rom and don't open at all. Then I rooted my device with magisk and enabled 'magisk hide' but no success.
Hi! A solution that worked for me: use the renaming function in Magisk (you can find it in the Settings).
I had the same problem on a Redmi 4X, LOS 16, no working banking app even with Magisk hide. After renaming Magisk, I was able to log in and use it as intended. Also I left Magisk hide turned on.
My guess is that these kind of apps are looking specially for Magisk, and if it's detected, they just won't let you use them.