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Hello,
ATT user here currently on Note 2. I'm planning on buying G2 off contract and I'm debating between ATT and Tmo. Verizon is out because although it has SIM card it won't access LTE on GSM.
I understand that Tmo has all the bands ATT does and more, is that true? Would that explain why it's $600 on Tmo site and $580 on ATT? I looked at their respective wiki's and product page but they don't provide consistent descriptions. If anyone can help it'd be greatly appreciated
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ergoautumn said:
Hello,
ATT user here currently on Note 2. I'm planning on buying G2 off contract and I'm debating between ATT and Tmo. Verizon is out because although it has SIM card it won't access LTE on GSM.
I understand that Tmo has all the bands ATT does and more, is that true? Would that explain why it's $600 on Tmo site and $580 on ATT? I looked at their respective wiki's and product page but they don't provide consistent descriptions. If anyone can help it'd be greatly appreciated
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I know the Moto X has more bands for Tmobile's version vs. AT&T. I wouldn't be surprised if the same is true for the LG G2 as well
From Wikipedia:
D800 ZNFD800 AT&T 850/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 5, 17
D801 ZNFD801 T-mobile 850/1700/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 17
TMO supports AWS, unlike AT&T. AT&T supports LTE band 5, unlike TMO.
this doesn't answer the OP's question, but, i have a sim unlocked att G2 and i can get 4G and 4G LTE service with my T-Mobile sim/account. coverage is not as good as at&t in my location.
Awesome, thanks Sacrosaint!
I went through the LTE wiki, it seems like 5 is not that prevalent. Seems like the Bahamas, South Korea, Belize...it seems to me that Tmo would be the better choice, no? What with its use of the AWS spectrum and all. I'm still on ATT for another year so I won't be jumping ship yet (by then I guess the G3 would be out...)
The only concern is whether ATT's LTE-A frequency can be grabbed by the Tmo version, whenever it launches...
Sacrosaint said:
From Wikipedia:
D800 ZNFD800 AT&T 850/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 5, 17
D801 ZNFD801 T-mobile 850/1700/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 17
TMO supports AWS, unlike AT&T. AT&T supports LTE band 5, unlike TMO.
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I tried att lg g2 with my tmobile SIM it never gave me 4g/lte returned it back and got the new one from tmobile. Everything Is working fine on att I could only get 2g/edge and that is a known prob the att lg g2 does not have 1700 aws band for tmobile.
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Hmm. So you have Tmo plan and the ATT model didn't get you any LTE at all?
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I have AT&T and im using the t-mobile G2
I get 100% LTE everywhere I go. no problems whatsoever. havnt seen my phone display anything lower than 4G (and 4G LTE)
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leony74 said:
I tried att lg g2 with my tmobile SIM it never gave me 4g/lte returned it back and got the new one from tmobile. Everything Is working fine on att I could only get 2g/edge and that is a known prob the att lg g2 does not have 1700 aws band for tmobile.
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Not sure of the truth to that. Verizon, T-mobile, and At&t all support LTE band 4 which is AWS 1700. It might be more likely a carrier lock that prevents you from getting full coverage?
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Sacrosaint said:
From Wikipedia:
D800ZNFD800AT&T850/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 5, 17
D801ZNFD801T-mobile850/1700/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 17
TMO supports AWS, unlike AT&T. AT&T supports LTE band 5, unlike TMO.
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LTE band 4 is AWS and supported by AT&T. The frequencies listed in the wiki are for 3G/UMTS coverage which AT&T doesn't support AWS.
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Bands schmands.....I'm trying to figure out if I should ditch att for t-mobile. I'm in the new York area. What do you guys think. I have 10 days to pull the trigger
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mrbungle999 said:
Bands schmands.....I'm trying to figure out if I should ditch att for t-mobile. I'm in the new York area. What do you guys think. I have 10 days to pull the trigger
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I'm in AZ and actually purchased LG on day one that AT&T sold it. They did not want to sell out-right so I got a prepaid service and told them I would not activate until next month...Manager looked at me like I was a terrorist. Went outside and on my then GS4 went to an unlocker site and SIM UNLOCKED LG in about 25 mins. I tried two different APNs and one seems to be best as I have LTE mostly all over the valley!
SUMMERY
-Got phone before anyone else on TMObile
-Got phone at least $60+ cheaper W/taxes
-I can use the WIFI free hotspots of AT&T, always on the road...
-At work my LTE is 27-36mb down compared to 12on att co-workers, and Verizons 17MB on a different co-worker!
-At home my signal is a tiny bit spotty, oddly is only in my room ge 1-2 bars H+
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LTE band 4 is AWS and supported by AT&T. The frequencies listed in the wiki are for 3G/UMTS coverage which AT&T doesn't support AWS.
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Ah thank you for the clarification. So the Tmo version will get 3G coverage in areas the ATT version will not?
I called Tmo yesterday. They won't ask me a phone straight out, I have to buy a one month plan . Now I see why the prices on eBay are higher than the $600 listed. Just looking for a store that has the white model.
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Oh I totally forgot about the wifi thing...is that an ATT service that works with our ATT plan, or will it know I'm using a Tmo phone and not let me connect? Not a big deal since I have 2 GB and always come under each month but itd be nice to have.
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ergoautumn said:
Ah thank you for the clarification. So the Tmo version will get 3G coverage in areas the ATT version will not?
I called Tmo yesterday. They won't ask me a phone straight out, I have to buy a one month plan . Now I see why the prices on eBay are higher than the $600 listed. Just looking for a store that has the white model.
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Well, since t-mobile's 3g/umts is predominantly on the AWS 1700 band, utilizing a t-mobile SIM on the at&t model will result in sparse coverage for 3g, short of roaming. I understand t-mobile has built out some of their 3g on 1900 as well so that would work for you. Based off of frequency support, I would say the t-mobile version is the better one to unlock and potentially use between at&t and t-mobile networks. LTE band 5 support doesn't buy you anything domestically.
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Thank you everyone for your input . Guess Tmo it is.
Though...One wonders what their software support is like...I read that since they do wifi calling they're updates have to go through extra approval above and beyond the othercarriers because they have to deal with the FCC?
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ergoautumn said:
Awesome, thanks Sacrosaint!
I went through the LTE wiki, it seems like 5 is not that prevalent. Seems like the Bahamas, South Korea, Belize...it seems to me that Tmo would be the better choice, no? What with its use of the AWS spectrum and all. I'm still on ATT for another year so I won't be jumping ship yet (by then I guess the G3 would be out...)
The only concern is whether ATT's LTE-A frequency can be grabbed by the Tmo version, whenever it launches...
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Here in the Bahamas we don't have LTE yet, but we're planning on covering the same spectrum as AT&T, bands as well.
no AT&T LTE on T-mo G2
I have an unlocked T-MO LG G2. I recently swithced to AT&T (which only benefit is greater coverage area bc HSPA+ is way slower than T-MO) however my phone is not showing 4G LTE only 4G. when i searched for networks the very first time it listed AT&T LTE but would not let me connect and now it doesn't even show up in the network search. Does the T-Mo variant block a certain frequency used for AT&T LTE ??
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I have an unlocked T-MO LG G2. I recently swithced to AT&T (which only benefit is greater coverage area bc HSPA+ is way slower than T-MO) however my phone is not showing 4G LTE only 4G. when i searched for networks the very first time it listed AT&T LTE but would not let me connect and now it doesn't even show up in the network search. Does the T-Mo variant block a certain frequency used for AT&T LTE ??
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Iirc the tmo variant doesnt support atts lte bands (700/1700mhz)
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x714x said:
Iirc the tmo variant doesnt support atts lte bands (700/1700mhz)
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Incorrect. T-Mobile devices support ALL AT&T and T-Mobile bands, except LTE Band 5 (used by AT&T in a few rural areas). What's wrong is AT&T turns off LTE for non-AT&T devices. You have to call them up and give them the IMEI # of an AT&T-branded device (even if it's not yours and even if your SIM isn't in it/you don't plan on using it). They don't check after that.
Was looking into the metallic blue One unlocked for use on tmobile since there aren't any color options on my carrier.
Obviously the two carriers use different bands so I wanted to confirm if I get an unlocked one I should be ok? Also if I purchase a locked ATT One is there any special method to unlock it besides a code or will I be required to root and unlock and s off and all of that?
I am currently in an active LTE area for tmobile which has been refarmed in some areas from E to HSPA+.
Outside city is mostly E coverage anyway.
So I'll be ok with getting just LTE or E only when. Outside the city. But from my understanding the ATT model is lacking the band for any refarmed HSPA area?
Thanks for the clarification.
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I have a at&t HTC one on T-Mobile and works just fine and gets LTE
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Awesome thanks! Did you do anything special to unlock it or just buy it unlocked?
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It was unlocked, I bought it off of swappa but it is a AT&T branded phone.
FYI i just was able to load a t-mobile rom onto it.. so if you superCid it then you can load a t-mobile rom and have the wifi calling feature too .
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Nothing special to unlock, stock rom, get code, enter and insert other carrier sim, done.
Awesome thanks for the info everyone. Im really on the fence about getting one, or the Galaxy S4 Google Play edition. The camera is whats making my decision killer.
Will an unlocked AT&T g3 work on sprint? I know that the s5 unlocked from AT&T will work on sprint.
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manaup said:
Will an unlocked AT&T g3 work on sprint? I know that the s5 unlocked from AT&T will work on sprint.
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No - on both counts. Sprint is a CDMA network. No GSM phones - AT&T included - will work on Sprint.
Sprint uses an esn master list. If that phone isn't on it it can't be activated. (Only Sprint phones are on the list btw)
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rythis said:
Sprint uses an esn master list. If that phone isn't on it it can't be activated. (Only Sprint phones are on the list btw)
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Master list or not, a GSM phone will not work on a CDMA network
Lol. I'm ok with my unlimited data plan from sprint for my multi line. Thanks!
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There was a guy that unlocked his Sammy s5 on AT&T and brought it to sprint.
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manaup said:
There was a guy that unlocked his Sammy s5 on AT&T and brought it to sprint.
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I work at sprint and I can tell you right now, he either traded it for a sprint s5 or he didnt get sprint. NO GSM phone works on our network. The only exception is the Nexus 5. Thats it. Nexus 5 no more. no less.
I believe you. Now that i think about it, the guy seemed shady and not trust worthy..can any of the sprint phones unlock and go to GSM networks? I've heard that the Sammy s4 can do it.
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Can the s5 talk and use 3g at the same time? I know the sprint g3 can't do that.
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manaup said:
I believe you. Now that i think about it, the guy seemed shady and not trust worthy..can any of the sprint phones unlock and go to GSM networks? I've heard that the Sammy s4 can do it.
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Yes. LG G2 and G Flex, HTC One (m7) and One Max, Moto X, Galaxy S4, Note 3 (if Sprint processes the international unlock first), and iPhone 4s and 5 can all be unlocked for GSM use
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Yes. LG G2 and G Flex, HTC One (m7) and One Max, Moto X, Galaxy S4, Note 3 (if Sprint processes the international unlock first), and iPhone 4s and 5 can all be unlocked for GSM use
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And you are talking about factory unlocks that Sprint does for its customers or are you saying there is a way to unlock these Sprint variants for free?
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haoleflip said:
And you are talking about factory unlocks that Sprint does for its customers or are you saying there is a way to unlock these Sprint variants for free?
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The unlock that Sprint does is not a true factory unlock, since the phone can only be used in other countries if they do it. All of the above phones can be truly factory unlocked for use with any GSM carrier in the world, even in the US. I wouldn't say the iPhones are free, and it's not technically a factory unlock. But for all the Android models, yes. You just need to have the tools and the knowledge. I run my own business doing software support for smartphones and tablets, and Sprint unlocking is something that I do lots of.
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The unlock that Sprint does is not a true factory unlock, since the phone can only be used in other countries if they do it. All of the above phones can be truly factory unlocked for use with any GSM carrier in the world, even in the US. I wouldn't say the iPhones are free, and it's not technically a factory unlock. But for all the Android models, yes. You just need to have the tools and the knowledge. I run my own business doing software support for smartphones and tablets, and Sprint unlocking is something that I do lots of.
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do you know howw to unlock the g3 "ls990" version for sprint..
i would like to use with any worldwide network simcard.. could you help me?
zikario507 said:
do you know howw to unlock the g3 "ls990" version for sprint..
i would like to use with any worldwide network simcard.. could you help me?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g3/general/unlock-sim-gsm-how-to-t2853594
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The unlock that Sprint does is not a true factory unlock, since the phone can only be used in other countries if they do it. All of the above phones can be truly factory unlocked for use with any GSM carrier in the world, even in the US. I wouldn't say the iPhones are free, and it's not technically a factory unlock. But for all the Android models, yes. You just need to have the tools and the knowledge. I run my own business doing software support for smartphones and tablets, and Sprint unlocking is something that I do lots of.
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ok.. but if you unlock for international carriers... whats happens with the functionality' get the famous +1 error?
zikario507 said:
ok.. but if you unlock for international carriers... whats happens with the functionality' get the famous +1 error?
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There is an easy way around that. I'm using an unlocked Sprint G3 right now and works fine
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There is an easy way around that. I'm using an unlocked Sprint G3 right now and works fine
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Sounds good.. What do you know about domestic unlock for this device?
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Sounds good.. What do you know about domestic unlock for this device?
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Everything. Mine is domestic unlocked.
How do you do that.. I read g3 ls990 unlock is just for international carrier.. But how do you get so domestic
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Thread closed as the question seems to be answered and so this doesn't go off topic.
The bands seem to show it's compatible with t-mobile 4g and LTE.. Which is pretty weird for an overseas phone.. Thoughts?
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I think it will support both T-Mobile and AT&T because I had the find 7a and it worked fine on either carrier, if u go to the r5's page on oppo.com it shows exactly what bands are supported
Working fine on AT&T HSPA+ for me.
Works great on Cricket for me so far, no lte, just hspa.
I'm considering buying a phone from textnow but I'm not sure whether I could unlock it so that I can use it on a different carrier. The website support and faq said that the software was made specifically for textnow services. Does that mean that the phone itself is uncompatible with other carriers or does that mean that it can be unlocked but I first have to get rid of the TextNow software that is installed on it?
The phone is Moto E (2nd Generation XT1526). It can be found on the text now website.
You can flash Boost Software. As far as unlocking my buddy changed his to Boost.
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You can flash Boost Software. As far as unlocking my buddy changed his to Boost.
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I'm new to Androids and unlocking phones so I don't know what flash boost software means lol. Could you explain it to me or direct me somewhere where I can find out? Sorry for the inconvinence
NewAndr0id said:
I'm new to Androids and unlocking phones so I don't know what flash boost software means lol. Could you explain it to me or direct me somewhere where I can find out? Sorry for the inconvinence
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Flashing means changing something on the phone. In this case, you're going to replace TextNow's software with Boost's software.
What model is it? There are a lot of Moto E's in the wild, all edited and distributed by different carriers. We need to know the exact model before we can tell if the bootloader is unlockable, which is the first step in flashing something.
What model is it? There are a lot of Moto E's in the wild, all edited and distributed by different carriers. We need to know the exact model before we can tell if the bootloader is unlockable, which is the first step in flashing something.
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It is a XT1526.
OS
Android 5.1 (Lollipop)
Processor
Quad-core 1.2GHz processor with 400MHz graphics processor
Network
LTE: Band 2 (1900MHz), 4 (1700/2100MHz), 5 (850MHz), 26 (850MHz), 41 (2500MHz)
CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev A, 800/850/1900MHz
GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
I have a text now moto e 1526. I'm now using it with a stock build for boost and text now at the same time. Mine and my wife's were both unlocked and rooted out of the box. Not bad for $4.99 and $9.99 huh? I just installed busybox and TWRP to get full functionality. This helps I hope.
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As far as "carrier unlocking" goes, I've avidly researched this topic for over a year now. As far as I can tell, and even though the xt1526 had both GSM and CDMA capabilities, nobody has successfully unlocked it to function with a domestic GSM SIM card. However, the xt1526 has native UICC unlock which allows for use with international SIM carriers.
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MotoJunkie01 said:
As far as "carrier unlocking" goes, I've avidly researched this topic for over a year now. As far as I can tell, and even though the xt1526 had both GSM and CDMA capabilities, nobody has successfully unlocked it to function with a domestic GSM SIM card. However, the xt1526 has native UICC unlock which allows for use with international SIM carriers.
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True for sprint/boost branded models. USCellular branded xt1526 is carrier unlocked out of the box. I'm typing this from mine, with my ATT postpaid Sim running it.
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Good to know. Although unlocked out of the box, does the U.S. Cellular variant require any special mods or tweaks in order to function with a domestic GSM carrier? Also, are all of your LTE bands for AT&T already enabled?
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MotoJunkie01 said:
Good to know. Although unlocked out of the box, does the U.S. Cellular variant require any special mods or tweaks in order to function with a domestic GSM carrier? Also, are all of your LTE bands for AT&T already enabled?
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Requires the same GSM trick that the Verizon model needs, but it has an unlockable bootloader, so you can root and edit the build.prop to make it permanent. The AT&T bands are enabled by default, but you still need to perform the GSM trick, else it'll get stuck trying to activate in LTE/CDMA mode.
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Good to know. Although unlocked out of the box, does the U.S. Cellular variant require any special mods or tweaks in order to function with a domestic GSM carrier? Also, are all of your LTE bands for AT&T already enabled?
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Yes, the USC requires manual switching of network modes before it will work with GSM Sims. There is a thread here titled something like "help verify, use CDMA device on GSM network, no PC required" or something like that.
Afaik all AT&T LTE bands are working - I get LTE on the moto e the same places I get it on my ATT Galaxy S6.
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Yes, the USC requires manual switching of network modes before it will work with GSM Sims. There is a thread here titled something like "help verify, use CDMA device on GSM network, no PC required" or something like that.
Afaik all AT&T LTE bands are working - I get LTE on the moto e the same places I get it on my ATT Galaxy S6.
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Thanks much for the valuable info. I have just ordered a U.S. Cellular xt1526 from eBay and plan on using it for domestic GSM service, namely, AT&T.
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