Hey XDA Remixers!
We warmly invite you to the Remix IO Facebook event going on tomorrow, Thursday October 20 @11pm (GMT+8). I'd like to tell you now what Remix IO is all about, but then I wouldn't be doing my job.
I will drop a hint here that there will be something nice for developers in the event/campaign.
Here's the link to the Remix IO Facebook event: https://www.facebook.com/events/1781404908740204/
If you aren't on Facebook for any reason, don't worry as I will be sharing another link with you guys around 11pm (GMT+8) as well. So, no one who is interested will be missing out.
Thanks!
yeah new toys
heh new remix os device.
Does anyone see where it says what chip they are using for this. I would HATE to get this like the Mini and be stuck on a device that will NOT get updates in the future. 2GB is also very much on the low side for a console you would like to run games on.
thirdlobe said:
Does anyone see where it says what chip they are using for this. I would HATE to get this like the Mini and be stuck on a device that will NOT get updates in the future. 2GB is also very much on the low side for a console you would like to run games on.
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RK3368 from Rockchip
https://www.kickstarter.com/project...gat-powered-all-in-one-device?token=bfc75bfd#
thirdlobe said:
Does anyone see where it says what chip they are using for this. I would HATE to get this like the Mini and be stuck on a device that will NOT get updates in the future. 2GB is also very much on the low side for a console you would like to run games on.
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Exactly. The 2GB RAM can still be tolerated when the Remix Mini was first dreamed up last year (2015) but a BIG no-no for a 2017 model. Not with this NEW Remix IO.
Speaking of performance, I wonder why didn't they go for some SoC that has at least the ARM Cortex-A72 cluster in addition to the low power Cortex-A53 cluster to improve performance.
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RK3368 from Rockchip
https://www.kickstarter.com/project...gat-powered-all-in-one-device?token=bfc75bfd#
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Definitely not the best chipset.
nakTT said:
Exactly. The 2GB RAM can still be tolerated when the Remix Mini was first dreamed up last year (2015) but a BIG no-no for a 2017 model. Not with this NEW Remix IO.
Speaking of performance, I wonder why didn't they go for some SoC that has at least the ARM Cortex-A72 cluster in addition to the low power Cortex-A53 cluster to improve performance.
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Possibly for cost but I have been reading where they may address the RAM. I dont know if that will make it to the Kickstarter buyers.
So what chip would u like to see?
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x86 support
Does the Remix team plan on releasing this software version for x86 like the current Remix OS? It would be awesome to load on my old chromebox instead of openelec.
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So what chip would u like to see?
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Chip with a least a pair of Big-Core (ARM Cortex-A72 or something along that line) in addition to the cluster of Small-Core (ARM Cortex-A53) from a manufacturer that is better in term of Android support than the one in Remix Mini who refused to cooperate with Remix on the Marshmallow upgrade. We don't want the same disaster, do we?
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Chip with a least a pair of Big-Core (ARM Cortex-A72 or something along that line) in addition of the cluster of Small-Core (ARM Cortex-A53) from a manufacturer that is better in term of Android support than the one in Remix Mini who refused to cooperate with Remix on the Marshmallow upgrade. We don't want the same disaster, do we?
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intel atom with uefi?
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intel atom with uefi?
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If it is at least comparable to ARM Cortex-A72 + A53 combo in performance and power consumption as well as cost, why not.
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If it is at least comparable to ARM Cortex-A72 + A53 combo in performance and power consumption as well as cost, why not.
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Well Intel tryed to build some atom phones with the asus zenphone 2 so I'm not sure but it can be comparable. Anyway low consumption and big little is useless with a tv box without battery...no limit in power here. It use a wall socket after all.
But I can imagine a nice tv box with a cherry trail atom.
And the uefi part mean: you can mod a system yourself.
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Well Intel tryed to build some atom phones with the asus zenphone 2 so I'm not sure but it can be comparable. Anyway low consumption and big little is useless with a tv box without battery...no limit in power here. It use a wall socket after all.
But I can imagine a nice tv box with a cherry trail atom.
And the uefi part mean: you can mod a system yourself.
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To be fair to ARM and its big.LITTLE™, low power is not useless. All things being equal, low power can also be translated into less heat. I'm sure you know what less heat means to longevity, packaging etc of a product.
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To be fair to ARM and its big.LITTLE™, low power is not useless. All things being equal, low power can also be translated into less heat. I'm sure you know what less heat means to longevity, packaging etc of a product.
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well no mostly because I live near a desert area so all those passive TV boxes overheat here what ever CPU they have. I know a fan add a failure point but a fan is just needed here.
most computer we build here have oversized coolers.
so this is why I am interested with the Io having a fan.
and to me usability comes first with performance.
this is not a phone after all
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I have pledge remix io+ but please guys let us ask Jide to include a microphone in the controller so that we can do voice search over YouTube and use Google now voice search. I sent them an email asking this. Please guys send an email too. This is a function that needs to be implemented. Put a microphone in the controller like nvidia shield
Why a vga port for this great device?
https://www.xda-developers.com/jide...remix-os-as-it-focuses-on-enterprise-markets/
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Here's my question. I want to start with an app or two, but ultimately want to make it to roms, themes, etc. My computer however is a bit on the low end. 1ghz dual core, 1gb ram. Decent storage though 250gb. Is this not enough, sufficient, or great. Thanks in advance
Posted from my 1.34ghz, Infected, Themed Out, Lightningbolt.
when your phone has a faster clockspeed than your desktop, it is time for an upgrade.
Bigandrewgold said:
when your phone has a faster clockspeed than your desktop, it is time for an upgrade.
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Except clockspeed is not the almighty determinant of cpu power that years of marketing would lead you to believe. That CPU could still run circles around the phone CPU for various architectural reason I won't get into because it's too much to explain and no one will likely be interested. However, 1ghz is slow, especially if you're going to be using a Java based (that is, built on Java) IDE like Eclispe or Intellij IDEA. I've used Intellij IDEA on my 2 core Atom netbook when I'm not around my desktop and it's just painful (and Intellij is faster than Eclipse). Java anything eats RAM like a fat kid eats skittles and drags your CPU like you're running a race with him on your shoulders. Intellij IDEA eats up around 600mb of RAM being open and Eclipse is around the same.
That amount of RAM is also low as well. Your system is already using at least 50% of that + whatever more for your GPU if you do not have a separate GPU.
Can you use that computer to do some basic application tutorials, theme and do small mods? Yeah sure. Will it be annoying to do so? A little, as things lag and you probably don't realize it as you're used to that system.
If you're going to compile Android from the source, then that computer will never work out. Android source needs around 8-16gb of RAM for 2.3.x and 16-24gb for ICS. A 4 core CPU such as an i5 or i7 is also recommended.
You could build a decent computer from parts made for compiling for probably 700-900 excluding a monitor. One for just apps and anything else for probably 500-600.
Yeah definitely time for an upgrade.
I dev on my laptop. It's a Toshiba Satellite L675D-7104:
AMD Turion II Dual Core 2.5GHz cpu, 4GB RAM, 500GB HD, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200, dual booting Windows 7 Home Premium and Fedora 16.
It's a decent mid-range computer, nothing too special. It does the job as far as building ROMs. It can build from source, but takes a pretty long time.
Thanks folks. I will be dispatching my computer promptly, office space style
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haliwa04 said:
Thanks folks. I will be dispatching my computer promptly, office space style
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No need for that, I use old computers for linux test boxes quite a bit as you don't need that much to run it with just the command line. I'm sure someone will take it off your hands if you put it on Craigslist or give it to the thrift store.
I know that this isn't a Q&A Forum, but we don't have any, we only have a post that no ones answer, i know too that this question is anwered so many times before but the answer i got was like "is normal", "an article from Xperia phones that explain some of that", but i still don't get it. System always get an amount of RAM needed for the correct working of all stuff. But why in other phones (even with the same chipset) that doesn't happen? And why we can't see where and how the left memory is been used by system? Normally i've seen before how RAM is reduced to share it with GPU, but in ICS our GPU looks worst than on GB so RAM definetely isn't on the GPU, so is good that all of us reach the point of this, i get some screens from other devices and i will posting this in a little bit time. SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH!
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3-Motorola Droid Razr (SAME CHIPSET) TI OMAP 4430
4-i9300 Galaxy SIII Exynos Quad
5-i9100 Galaxy SII Exynos Dual
6-i9250 Galaxy Nexus TI OMAP 4460
this was asked before but the answer was found here link:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1682204
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this was asked before but the answer was found here link:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1682204
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And what is the answer? The article about xperias that i've stated in the OP? If that was the case why in other phones like of the screenshots i put it doesn't happen? I already readed all of related post and no one give me an accurate answer!
why do you need more ram?
uninstall unnecessary apps and use supercharger.
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Lukenda said:
why do you need more ram?
uninstall unnecessary apps and use supercharger.
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I don't need more RAM, what i need is to know WHERE DID my RAM go. Maybe nobody know the answer, if i knew a little bit of development i would search the answer but i can't!
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codeworkx said:
It's only 687 MB shown because some amount of ram gets reserved from the kernel for video and graphics stuff.
But ram is there to be used. Free ram is wasted ram and therefore wasted money.
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Anyways, it doesn't impact performance, and yes, this is mainly tied with the GPU of our phones, it seems.
Jiangyi said:
As Codeworkx said:
Anyways, it doesn't impact performance, and yes, this is mainly tied with the GPU of our phones, it seems.
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Strangely the gpu performs better on GB than JB. How is that possible?
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Jiangyi said:
As Codeworkx said:
Anyways, it doesn't impact performance, and yes, this is mainly tied with the GPU of our phones, it seems.
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Its ok.....i have also read similar thing in xperia topic. But i just want to ask , why does this not happened in the non G version. If it was reserved by kernel for graphics and gpu use then why the graphics performance have become worse in ics....???? All is clear that samsung is not treating the both sets similar only selling them at similar price.....poor samsung .
cooladityarai said:
its ok.....i have also read similar thing in xperia topic. But i just want to ask , why does this not happened in the non g version. If it was reserved by kernel for graphics and gpu use then why the graphics performance have become worse in ics....???? All is clear that samsung is not treating the both sets similar only selling them at similar price.....poor samsung .
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is Gnex in yhe picture has the same ram like us ?
because in pics its has only about 680 like our phone .
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is Gnex in yhe picture has the same ram like us ?
because in pics its has only about 680 like our phone .
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Yeah only the galaxy nexus seems to have the same RAM..
codybank_789 said:
is Gnex in yhe picture has the same ram like us ?
because in pics its has only about 680 like our phone .
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Oh yes it has same as our..... but it has a better display of 720p res. So what does it mean...??? The cpu has to work more on the extra pixels . And the thing that ram is reserved for graphics sounds correct here because more pixels more load on gpu and ram. But did u noticed the same processor and ram having moto razar hav nearly 800mb available ram. I just can not understand why the G version has been locked with ram and not the nonG version , still while launching the G version Samsung said that both devices are similar in performance. But we all know about it , nothing to say here.
And the most important thing is that Motorola Atrix2 is available @22.5k which have everything same except display, and also gnexus in some places @24 k yet it have more powerful cpu and higher resolution. . ...and what we r paying for i9100g........27.5k . Samsung is only cheating Indian users, even they have not specified on the boxes whether it is G version ( saw many issues like that on google ).
cooladityarai said:
Oh yes it has same as our..... but it has a better display of 720p res. So what does it mean...??? The cpu has to work more on the extra pixels . And the thing that ram is reserved for graphics sounds correct here because more pixels more load on gpu and ram. But did u noticed the same processor and ram having moto razar hav nearly 800mb available ram. I just can not understand why the G version has been locked with ram and not the nonG version , still while launching the G version Samsung said that both devices are similar in performance. But we all know about it , nothing to say here.
And the most important thing is that Motorola Atrix2 is available @22.5k which have everything same except display, and also gnexus in some places @24 k yet it have more powerful cpu and higher resolution. . ...and what we r paying for i9100g........27.5k . Samsung is only cheating Indian users, even they have not specified on the boxes whether it is G version ( saw many issues like that on google ).
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Just go ahead & sue Samsung for cheating... as consumers we have right to know the real model we are paying for... but i dont think can win the case so just be it!
zaclee said:
Just go ahead & sue Samsung for cheating... as consumers we have right to know the real model we are paying for... but i dont think can win the case so just be it!
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Man u r wrong we can win against samsung . They are cheating us Under Consumer Act 1987 . So we can.....either they refund our money or replace with the original one. And also Samsung has to pay for the mental hrassment that we suffered.
What if I told you the 680mb ram is just a display error across the device.
Have you ever exceeded using 680mb ram on the phone?
rskyline said:
I know that this isn't a Q&A Forum, but we don't have any, we only have a post that no ones answer, i know too that this question is anwered so many times before but the answer i got was like "is normal", "an article from Xperia phones that explain some of that", but i still don't get it. System always get an amount of RAM needed for the correct working of all stuff. But why in other phones (even with the same chipset) that doesn't happen? And why we can't see where and how the left memory is been used by system? Normally i've seen before how RAM is reduced to share it with GPU, but in ICS our GPU looks worst than on GB so RAM definetely isn't on the GPU, so is good that all of us reach the point of this, i get some screens from other devices and i will posting this in a little bit time. SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH!
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3-Motorola Droid Razr (SAME CHIPSET) TI OMAP 4430
4-i9300 Galaxy SIII Exynos Quad
5-i9100 Galaxy SII Exynos Dual
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I regret buying this phone, if you ask me, not because is Samsung, just because it's Android. I really don't understand the logic behind a mobile OS that uses lots of RAM in a device that obviously does not have great battery. I had at the time an iPhone 4S and my SGSII simultaneously, so I got the chance to test them in RL. Even iPhone having a less efficient display (LCD vs AMOLED) and a smaller battery than the one on the SGSII, in actual daily use, iPhone seems to handle its RAM way better than any Android I have tested. The problem in many Android IMO is when in idle, still consuming a lot of RAM that greatly affects battery.
jorgelh8 said:
I regret buying this phone, if you ask me, not because is Samsung, just because it's Android. I really don't understand the logic behind a mobile OS that uses lots of RAM in a device that obviously does not have great battery. I had at the time an iPhone 4S and my SGSII simultaneously, so I got the chance to test them in RL. Even iPhone having a less efficient display (LCD vs AMOLED) and a smaller battery than the one on the SGSII, in actual daily use, iPhone seems to handle its RAM way better than any Android I have tested. The problem in many Android IMO is when in idle, still consuming a lot of RAM that greatly affects battery.
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so u think more free ram is better ? its maybe right in ios but its not in android. ram is born to be used.
Dont think ram consuming cause battery drain.
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Straight answer below.
Scenario: An Xperia™ Phone.
"Now, let’s look at how the RAM is used. Out of our 512MB RAM, about a third is used for functions that require a dedicated memory slot to operate fast enough. For example, this is the case for certain multimedia functions. The remaining space, which is at least 340MB, is reserved for the Linux user space, as required in the Android Compatibility Definition Document (CDD). Within the Linux user space, functions like the activity manager and Home screen app are running." (Sonymobile, 2012).
Picture illustration as follows:
This partitioning more or less applies to all other manufacturers' devices, thus explains why the promised 1GB in our device is not entirely visible to us.
As to why different phones with the same chipset has different amounts of RAMs (i.e. Samsung SGS2 VS Motorola Droid Razr & that Razr appears to have more usable RAM), it simply goes back to the reason:
Samsung SGS2 consists of more system functions thus uses more more RAM than compared to that of Motorola Droid Razr.
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this was asked before but the answer was found here link:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1682204
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Direct source (read more): Learn about the technical differences between Gingerbread and ICS [Updated] — Developer World
KeithOYS said:
Straight answer below.
Scenario: An Xperia™ Phone.
"Now, let’s look at how the RAM is used. Out of our 512MB RAM, about a third is used for functions that require a dedicated memory slot to operate fast enough. For example, this is the case for certain multimedia functions. The remaining space, which is at least 340MB, is reserved for the Linux user space, as required in the Android Compatibility Definition Document (CDD). Within the Linux user space, functions like the activity manager and Home screen app are running." (Sonymobile, 2012).
Picture illustration as follows:
This partitioning more or less applies to all other manufacturers' devices, thus explains the OP's question why the promised 1GB in our GT-I9100 is not entirely visible to us.
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But that answer why razr doesn't have less ram and our phone does? Same chipset same os same version.
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rskyline said:
But that answer why razr doesn't have less ram and our phone does? Same chipset same os same version.
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it depend on the manufacturer.
s2g samsung
razr motorola
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I know that the ARM architecture is based on low-power mobile processing, but with upcoming release of the new Hardkernel ODROID development boards, at at a price tag of $89 for the ODROID-U2 and a Exynos 4412 Prime CPU, and supporting Ubuntu, I'm almost tempted to try it out as a desktop replacement.
But I'm wondering, how fast would it really be? Compared to Intel? Or is it impossible to say?
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I know that the ARM architecture is based on low-power mobile processing, but with upcoming release of the new Hardkernel ODROID development boards, at at a price tag of $89 for the ODROID-U2 and a Exynos 4412 Prime CPU, and supporting Ubuntu, I'm almost tempted to try it out as a desktop replacement.
But I'm wondering, how fast would it really be? Compared to Intel? Or is it impossible to say?
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From what I've read around the Odroid forums, the performance of the Prime is supposed to be on par with first gen i3 processors, which is pretty descent for a mobile processor. They are also working on an overclock app that will allow the cpu to scale to 2Ghz per core. I plan on getting the odroid-u2 and I already have the odroid-x:laugh:
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From what I've read around the Odroid forums, the performance of the Prime is supposed to be on par with first gen i3 processors, which is pretty descent for a mobile processor. They are also working on an overclock app that will allow the cpu to scale to 2Ghz per core. I plan on getting the odroid-u2 and I already have the odroid-x:laugh:
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I am considering getting one as well for basic testing and developmentment but I also one to use one as a media player it doesn't seem to support many files due to licensing issues
absolutely!
I have been eyeing on these mini-PCs/SBCs(Single board computer) for quite a long time.
Guess I will be getting this sweet little baby soon (ODROID-U2)
Apart from 2GB of RAM (which is ineffect the best at this price point and across all the similar boards) it beats the Tegra 3 by quite a margin
I have read many specs showing the Denver having a massive CPU performance.
However, all of these are "Single Core" performances @3Ghz.
Multi core performance, is just, on par with quad core benchmarks.
However, when I am multitasking, is this going to be a serious issue, with all the overhead of context switching and stuff, especially since Nexus 9 is clocking this at 2.3Ghz (a massive 25% reduction from benchmarks)? I mean, quad core is quad core. Single CPU performance can only do so much.
From the looks of things it'll pull it's weight for multi core loads as well. The only thing that out performs it on multi core workloads is the Galaxy Note 4, and even then it's not by much.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nexu...gra-K1-outperforms-Apple-iPhone-6s-A8_id61825
WisdomWolf said:
From the looks of things it'll pull it's weight for multi core loads as well. The only thing that out performs it on multi core workloads is the Galaxy Note 4, and even then it's not by much.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nexu...gra-K1-outperforms-Apple-iPhone-6s-A8_id61825
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Thanks. This should be enough to do pretty much anything seamlessly. I am primarily interested in graphics performance, one reason being the QHD screen, and that is mind blowing anyway.
Don't know why they removed 4K recording, as the CPU and GPU can handle it.
There might be a mod for it in the very near future? 4k
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There might be a mod for it in the very near future? 4k
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I sure hope so!
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one reason being the QHD screen, and that is mind blowing anyway.
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QXGA (2048 x 1536), not QHD (2560x1440). Close enough though, only about a half million pixels difference between the two.
Multicore performance doesn't matter much in real world scenarios.
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QXGA (2048 x 1536), not QHD (2560x1440). Close enough though, only about a half million pixels difference between the two.
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Thanks. You are indeed correct. I was just looking at Nexus 6 and note 4 and "missed" it. Besides, that half a million pixel difference (actually 540672), is only 17.19%, so The Tegra K1 won't notice it anyway
And now I'm unsure. Why would they put a lower resolution in N9, when they are putting QHD in N6?
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And now I'm unsure. Why would they put a lower resolution in N9, when they are putting QHD in N6?
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same with ram.
Maybe the price would be to high, like it already is?
Far_SighT said:
I have read many specs showing the Denver having a massive CPU performance.
However, all of these are "Single Core" performances @3Ghz.
Multi core performance, is just, on par with quad core benchmarks.
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It is really impressive to see a dual core getting the same performance as a quad core in multi-threading tasks, shows just how powerful the cores are. I dont think it is a setback really since it isnt performing a lot worse, and single thread gets such a large boost. This is Nvidia's first every CPU core, and it is really impressive. I am sure we will see a quad core version next generation or so when they can make the processor on a smaller node.
Being that Android L doesn't appear to have multi-window or floating-window multi-tasking, I don't think the lack of a quad-core is a big issue. Many Macbook Airs and Surface Pros have been running dual-core forever (even current models), and you could argue that people do far more multi-tasking on those full desktop OS's than an Android tablet.
Also, related, Antutu benchmark of the N9 from the other thread - http://i.imgur.com/c6b57dT.jpg
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Maybe the price would be to high, like it already is?
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same with ram.
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More likely, they are trying to match it with Apple's iPad Air 2, which seems reasonable.
However, they probably should have gone with 1080p in N6. That is wayyy overpriced.
I would have preferred to get a QHD in N9 and QXGA in N6, which would have given N9 an edge.
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Being that Android L doesn't appear to have multi-window or floating-window multi-tasking, I don't think the lack of a quad-core is a big issue. Many Macbook Airs and Surface Pros have been running dual-core forever (even current models), and you could argue that people do far more multi-tasking on those full desktop OS's than an Android tablet.
Also, related, Antutu benchmark of the N9 from the other thread - http://i.imgur.com/c6b57dT.jpg
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I am actually waiting for an A8X vs N9 (Denver) benchmark as I read stuff like "they turn off graphics features on Android despite more powerful hardware".
If the above holds true though, I'll probably get N9.
I wanted to make a custom PC build but I wanted to ask you what processor recommended. My search on wallapop is Intel Core i5, but which version recommended? Link to my search
@CzechosDrama,
When looking for anything you want to purchase, build, repair, install, or uninstall. Always do research yourself as that will get you the best results. Luckily, Google has all the information you need for free to do this research, not to mention pricing and availability. Google is your friend.
Thank you!
thisguy12win
Jason Tollakson
If I was to do a PC build though. In regards to a processor I would go with the Intel i7. It's really fast and reliable.
Thank you!
thisguy12win
But you are building a pc for office or a gaming pc? this is very relevant
thisguy12win said:
If I was to do a PC build though. In regards to a processor I would go with the Intel i7. It's really fast and reliable.
Thank you!
thisguy12win
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Thanks for your recomendation, gotta check on wallapop to see a low cost and good i7 proccesor.
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I wanted to make a custom PC build but I wanted to ask you what processor recommended. My search on wallapop is Intel Core i5, but which version recommended? Link to my search
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If it's not too late, here's some important things to know:
1. The biggest mistake people make is that they always classify processors by i3, 5, 7 and 9. Don't do this. Each processor is different based on its generation. For example, the 12th gen October 2021) i5-12600K is much faster than the 11th gen i9-11900K (March 2021), even though the number is lower.
2. There are always two types of i5 CPUs in each generation:
- i5-#400
- i5-#600
Where # is the generation number.
i5 600 CPUs are better than i5 400 CPUs but are more expensive.
3. Intel has different letters at the end of some CPUs, the main ones to know are:
K - This means that the chip is unlocked, meaning you can overclock it without voiding warranty. For any processor that is 12th gen or newer, it also means they get extra cores.
F - No integrated graphics. If you get a CPU ending with F (e.g: 12400F, 11600KF), your PC will not work unless you brought a separate graphics card (which you probably will). As a return, F CPUs are cheaper than the non-F versions.
On top of all that, i7 and i9 are still options depending on the generation.
It all depends on your budget and what you need from your PC.
I know that seemed way too complicated, so let me help you pick a CPU. Just tell me your budget and what you want your PC for.
A3RNAV said:
If it's not too late, here's some important things to know:
1. The biggest mistake people make is that they always classify processors by i3, 5, 7 and 9. Don't do this. Each processor is different based on its generation. For example, the 12th gen October 2021) i5-12600K is much faster than the 11th gen i9-11900K (March 2021), even though the number is lower.
2. There are always two types of i5 CPUs in each generation:
- i5-#400
- i5-#600
Where # is the generation number.
i5 600 CPUs are better than i5 400 CPUs but are more expensive.
3. Intel has different letters at the end of some CPUs, the main ones to know are:
K - This means that the chip is unlocked, meaning you can overclock it without voiding warranty. For any processor that is 12th gen or newer, it also means they get extra cores.
F - No integrated graphics. If you get a CPU ending with F (e.g: 12400F, 11600KF), your PC will not work unless you brought a separate graphics card (which you probably will). As a return, F CPUs are cheaper than the non-F versions.
On top of all that, i7 and i9 are still options depending on the generation.
It all depends on your budget and what you need from your PC.
I know that seemed way too complicated, so let me help you pick a CPU. Just tell me your budget and what you want your PC for.
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My budget is 30€-80€ and I want my pc for gaming, surfing the internet and testing VMs (maybe).
What exactly is your full budget (like for everything)? I would personally recommend spending a bigger part of your budget towards your CPU. Ideally you would want a 6-core CPU, but the best thing I can find under 80 is an Intel i3-10100F from 2019 on sale.
CzechosDrama said:
I wanted to make a custom PC build but I wanted to ask you what processor recommended. My search on wallapop is Intel Core i5, but which version recommended? Link to my search
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I would go with a AMD Ryzen CPU, they come with built in Vega graphics that perform really well in gaming, meaning, you won't have to buy a graphics card, if you go with an Intel CPU, you will have to buy a graphics card. AMD is a real cost saver because they are cheaper than Intel and come with excellent built in graphics.
That's actually true. The integrated graphics are really good, and you can easily get a 2nd or 3rd gen Ryzen 3 or 5 for a good price now. If you ever need to upgrade your GPU down the line the older RX series is also dropping in price
13th Gen i5 or i7 if you've got a broader budget. i9 isn't worth it the money.
Ryzen are decent, I've got one, but the Intel 13th Gen outperforms them this round.