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Hi,
I updated my P760 via the Software Update function, worked fine, kept root etc.
Now I read that this is called a dirty flash :/
Should I wipe and do it again via KDZ?
What are the disadvantages of doing it via Software Update? And, when wiping, will Titanium Backup restore my apps properly on JB?
The dirty flashing here is using kdz files. It's a workaround! Using ota updates is the best solution but it's not available in every region. That's why we look for other options to fulfill our need for the latest updates.
Dirty or non dirty both way same kdz is downloaded and flashed. So no advantages or disadvantage. Kdz is flashed phone is working. That's what we want. Chill and relax.
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Hi Guys, I have looked high and low but cannot seem to find a definitive answer so to what to do.
Basically I have a Samsung S3 which about 5 months ago I rooted to enable me to use any network. Basically O2 who I used to have a contract with messed up somehow and on their records they could not find a IMEI number and so couldn't unlock, I was going round in circles and as I was moving abroad I had no other option.
Everything went fine and it is only now that I would like to update the OS to its latest version that when I go to the settings and update it says something about having a modified firmware (I think, another story altogether but I now broke the screen and so waiting for a replacement to fix it).
My questions are:
Will I ever be able to update normally via the settings menu again?
What is the latest stable Android update that I could use? KitKat?
Where is the best place to source the most recent Android distributions?
Basically I am just looking for a bit of advice on how to go about keeping my phone up to date with the latest features. I am not really interested in adding hacked functionality etc at this point.
Thanks
If you unlocked your phone using the 'free' methods then updating to the latest rom will return the network lock or corrupt your efs folder, depending on how the unlock was achieved.
You can't use ota updates as you've modified your phone.
Sammobile is where you obtain the latest rom.
Also, questions go the q&a forum and all the above information is posted many times.
Sorry for the wrong forum post.
So to be clear if I want to update I need to go to manually update the phone. Is this via kies or will it be more complex as my phone is now rooted / modded.?
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bmouthboyo said:
Sorry for the wrong forum post.
So to be clear if I want to update I need to go to manually update the phone. Is this via kies or will it be more complex as my phone is now rooted / modded.?
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As said, you wont get any updates via OTA if your phone is rooted,
Go to Sammobile.com, find the latest UK / Europe (BTU) generic rom it will be the version ending MJ9.
Download Odin and Guide here
Flash the rom using Odin, doing this will remove root access, once you have installed the rom, enter recovery mode and clear Cache / Dalvik Cache then factory reset (be aware this will wipe your phone and internal storage so copy any files to your PC first)
Boot the phone and set it up, then go to software updates on your phone and update the MJ9 version to MK6,
Now your phone will be fully stock and get OTA updates in the future plus you will have the generic UK and Europe firmware version (BTU) Android 4.3.
Thank you so much, that is a nice clear guide
My last question is if people think it's good to update to 4.3 now? I read the UK was having issues with it?
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bmouthboyo said:
Thank you so much, that is a nice clear guide
My last question is if people think it's good to update to 4.3 now? I read the UK was having issues with it?
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No wait for the next full build .
Read the faqs and guides as you wait .
Had a good read about, thanks for that.
Does anyone know or hazard a guess when next official jellybean release may be? Do they run on development cycles, or is this more an advice patch?
Any ideas on if update coming soon that is good idea to flash with?
Also if I install a new ROM I know everything is wiped, is there a way I can back up all my whatsapp convocations etc? Or will I need to install all the apps a fresh? Ie can I restore the phone as is now or will it be a case of each app installed from scratch?
Thanks so much for help so far, think I will update today.
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Any ideas on if update coming soon that is good idea to flash with?
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Go to the sammmobile link in the previous post I suggested to you and download the UK (BTU) MK6 firmware, there is nothing wrong with that version, if you are already on a stock rom just flash this no need to do any factory resets, wipes.etc
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Also if I install a new ROM I know everything is wiped, is there a way I can back up all my whatsapp convocations etc? Or will I need to install all the apps a fresh? Ie can I restore the phone as is now or will it be a case of each app installed from scratch?
Thanks so much for help so far, think I will update today.
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If you are on a stock rom then flash the rom mentioned above it will not affect any of your apps they will still work the same unless you have root dependant app but then simply root your phone again using CF-Auto Root in my signature.
The times you have problems is when you have custom roms then going to a different custom rom or back to a stock rom, in these cases you need to do a full wipe and factory reset so you loose all data unless you have back it up.
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Go to the sammmobile link in the previous post I suggested to you and download the UK (BTU) MK6 firmware, there is nothing wrong with that version, if you are already on a stock rom just flash this no need to do any factory resets, wipes.etc
If you are on a stock rom then flash the rom mentioned above it will not affect any of your apps they will still work the same unless you have root dependant app but then simply root your phone again using CF-Auto Root in my signature.
The times you have problems is when you have custom roms then going to a different custom rom or back to a stock rom, in these cases you need to do a full wipe and factory reset so you loose all data unless you have back it up.
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Factory reset will not wipe the internal sd card. So if u back up whatsapp conversations without ext sd card, factory reset will not wipe it.
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ag4751 said:
Go to the sammmobile link in the previous post I suggested to you and download the UK (BTU) MK6 firmware, there is nothing wrong with that version, if you are already on a stock rom just flash this no need to do any factory resets, wipes.etc
If you are on a stock rom then flash the rom mentioned above it will not affect any of your apps they will still work the same unless you have root dependant app but then simply root your phone again using CF-Auto Root in my signature.
The times you have problems is when you have custom roms then going to a different custom rom or back to a stock rom, in these cases you need to do a full wipe and factory reset so you loose all data unless you have back it up.
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Thanks for that, I am downloading that ROM now.
When you say stock ROM, I did not go to a custom one but I did root my phone to allow it to be region free. I still get the O2 splash screen etc, so is it safe to say it is still stock and I can simply flash the new ROM without a factory reset?
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Thanks for that, I am downloading that ROM now.
When you say stock ROM, I did not go to a custom one but I did root my phone to allow it to be region free. I still get the O2 splash screen etc, so is it safe to say it is still stock and I can simply flash the new ROM without a factory reset?
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Yes, my phone was Stock o2 when I got it in May 2012, first thing I did was flash the Generic BTU firmware to get rid on o2 stuff, I have never had to do a Factory reset nor wipe Cache, Dalvik Cache on my phone, it has always been rooted and apart for the MJ9 issues that Samsung had late last year it has worked fine, no lag, no random reboots, no freezing.
If you don't root you will get OTA updates, if you root you wont but you can still use Kies or Sammobile to update to any latest version releases, the factory reset will wipe pictures, music and your app data from your internal storage so if you back them up to your PC before a Factory reset you can replace them afterwards, but if you have not had any custom roms on your phone the need for a factory reset would be highly unlikely.
That's great, all went well today with the MK6 update listed above. I now see there is a MK7 update for jellybean from Israel. Worth going to this?
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That's great, all went well today with the MK6 update listed above. I now see there is a MK7 update for jellybean from Israel. Worth going to this?
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Choice on that is yours really.
Just because there is a higher number version doesn’t mean its an update from what you have unless it is based on the same version (eg BTU) if you have BTU MK6 and there was a BTU MK7 then that is an upgrade.
Where Isreal has MK7, India has ML4 this generally relates to how long and how many attempts they have in getting that country specific version ready for release, not an upgraded version of MK6.
You need to ensure that the rom you do install has multi CSC’s otherwise you could end up with no network signal or data.
So, I am getting an LG G3 tomorrow.
I already looked up how to downgrade it to 10B, root with Stump or Ioroot, and use Bump! to install TWRP. (Unless the software it comes with will be rootable, but I doubt it. If I am wrong, please let me know!) I obviously don't know everything there is to know, and may have missed some things.
Once I have it rooted.
I upgrade it via OTA keeping root with SuperSU's survival mode.
And it should stay rooted?
Then I use Bump! to flash TWRP into it, or can I do that before and update? I am just getting this phone and I really don't want to mess it up.
Downgrading and rooting it will be no issue, but I am unsure whether I use Bump! to install TWRP before or after updating it OTA.
Or if I should even update it at all and wait until developers say it's okay on the latest software as of Dec. 13th.
I checked around for a good thirty minutes and did not find a clear answer, I am hoping someone can directly clear this up.
I know updating a phone OTA while trying to keep root isn't the smartest thing to do, but if it works then I have the latest software and it's also a rooted device.
Also, the latest software I saw was 12D? Is that it, or is it 11C? I am confused on how the updates are (in the sense of which ones are out for this phone/coming out soon).
In simplicity/TL;DR:
(I did read about my issue, but could not find anything so I asked here!)
Once I downgrade to 10B and root my G3, is it safe to update OTA and keep root? (With SuperSU Survival Mode I'd assume.)
If so, should I flash TWRP with Bump! before or after the updates?
- If after, what should I do? Reflash completely back to 10B?
What is the latest released update for the G3 (Verizon - VS985)?
- Is there a new update coming soon?
Do the updates actually help the phone performance and fix issues without me doing anything to improve performance and fix issues myself?
Thanks!
Ariac Konrel said:
So, I am getting an LG G3 tomorrow.
I already looked up how to downgrade it to 10B, root with Stump or Ioroot, and use Bump! to install TWRP. (Unless the software it comes with will be rootable, but I doubt it. If I am wrong, please let me know!) I obviously don't know everything there is to know, and may have missed some things.
Once I have it rooted.
I upgrade it via OTA keeping root with SuperSU's survival mode.
And it should stay rooted?
Then I use Bump! to flash TWRP into it, or can I do that before and update? I am just getting this phone and I really don't want to mess it up.
Downgrading and rooting it will be no issue, but I am unsure whether I use Bump! to install TWRP before or after updating it OTA.
Or if I should even update it at all and wait until developers say it's okay on the latest software as of Dec. 13th.
I checked around for a good thirty minutes and did not find a clear answer, I am hoping someone can directly clear this up.
I know updating a phone OTA while trying to keep root isn't the smartest thing to do, but if it works then I have the latest software and it's also a rooted device.
Also, the latest software I saw was 12D? Is that it, or is it 11C? I am confused on how the updates are (in the sense of which ones are out for this phone/coming out soon).
In simplicity/TL;DR:
(I did read about my issue, but could not find anything so I asked here!)
Once I downgrade to 10B and root my G3, is it safe to update OTA and keep root? (With SuperSU Survival Mode I'd assume.)yes
If so, should I flash TWRP with Bump! before or after the updates?after, or you will get stuck in recovery
- If after, what should I do? Reflash completely back to 10B?no, just flash twrp after updating
What is the latest released update for the G3 (Verizon - VS985)?12b
- Is there a new update coming soon?unlikely anyone can answer this
Do the updates actually help the phone performance not really and fix issues other than lag im not sure what needs to be fixed without me doing anything to improve performance and fix issues myself? for the most part, you will need to tweek and mod yourself to improve performance and fix issues such as lag
Thanks!
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One more thing...
When I am updating and another software update is released, I will have TWRP flashed.
Updating it will cause a bootloop.
How can I prevent that?
Using titanium backup (TiBU) or similar program, freeze the app called "System updates 1_...". For me this has worked, though some people seem to still have issues; I'm trying to figure out if it is a TiBU problem or if they have accidentally frozen the wrong thing.
Alternative is to go to /system/app and rename the two LGDMSClient files, add a .bak to the end of the names, then restart.
See this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56061720
Copy the zip in the first post onto your phone. If you accidentally do get an ota after you have a custom recovery, tell twrp to Install that zip
file. It will flush the ota from your system, so you aren't such buying to recovery.
HTH!
Fwiw I just got a new G3 and it came with 10B
Doh...
BladeRunner said:
Fwiw I just got a new G3 and it came with 10B
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Lucky....12b here
rensmooth said:
Lucky....12b here
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You DO know that you can downgrade back to 10b to root and bump, correct? Just use KDZ or TOT files.
That was one of the other things I researched before getting this phone. Luckily, it came with 10B, but I'm on 12b, rooted and bumped.
Yes thanks. Just preparing everything. I had LG usb driver issue,resolved now with latest from LG. Now downloading 10b TOT. Too many years getting comfortable rooting HTC 's lol.
rensmooth said:
Yes thanks. Just preparing everything. I had LG usb driver issue,resolved now with latest from LG. Now downloading 10b TOT. Too many years getting comfortable rooting HTC 's lol.
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I know the feeling. For the past 3 three years, I was on Motorola phones, so there was a lot of FXZ files and fastboot flashing for me. Switching to LG meant learning that all over again.
New Question
Here, if any of you know the answer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/help/lg-g3-overheating-issues-t2975509
Still looking for a way to downgrade with wither OS X or Linux, my only two options.
manchucka said:
Still looking for a way to downgrade with wither OS X or Linux, my only two options.
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That I don't know about, since the two tools to flash the TOT and KDZ files are windows based.
Not sure if you could get them to run via Wine or something, but that might be an option, but since it also requires all the drivers and such, I have no idea how/if that would work and wouldn't even know how to start to set that up.
On motorola phones, you could use the fastboot command line tool that comes with the Android SDK and drivers, so that was nice.
But to take the TOT and KDZ files and flash them under Linux, I have no idea.
I got my phone on 11b, and downgraded it.
Used the Stump root, and then I used Bump! to install TWRP.
Forgot to do the updates, oh well another day.
They're not that important., right?
It's often handy to update modem, to pick up any enhancements on the rf side, the sw that actually talks to the cell tower.
I also ended up updating to the 11c boot, and the 12b system. IMG. 12b system picks up Verizon's first VoLTE, what they call Advanced Calling 1.0.
I did the above by using autoprime's flash2xxx zip files, and the .IMG files.
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It's often handy to update modem, to pick up any enhancements on the rf side, the sw that actually talks to the cell tower.
I also ended up updating to the 11c boot, and the 12b system. IMG. 12b system picks up Verizon's first VoLTE, what they call Advanced Calling 1.0.
I did the above by using autoprime's flash2xxx zip files, and the .IMG files.
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Advanced calling does nothing for me because I believe it's an extra charge on your bill for it. Forget that!
AC 1.0 is no added charge. HD voice is billed the same as any other call. The video part of a video call gets booked against your data plan (I'm grandfathered Unlimited), and free if it goes over WiFi.
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Still looking for a way to downgrade with wither OS X or Linux, my only two options.
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If I was you. I would get me an older used Win7 Laptop if you want to flash phones. Will make your life easier...
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markfm said:
It's often handy to update modem, to pick up any enhancements on the rf side, the sw that actually talks to the cell tower.
I also ended up updating to the 11c boot, and the 12b system. IMG. 12b system picks up Verizon's first VoLTE, what they call Advanced Calling 1.0.
I did the above by using autoprime's flash2xxx zip files, and the .IMG files.
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can you please show me how to this my phone got stuck tryin to go to 11c
In the Verizon g3 General section, stickies, bweN diorD has a reference thread. He has links to the various images, and to a thread on using flash2.
one click root
BladeRunner said:
Fwiw I just got a new G3 and it came with 10B
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This is the second G3 I have purchased. I Suggest using one click root to root. Also stop and Phil's can be flashed using flashing. It seems easier to me dealing with image rather than zip. I've foremost roms and so far my experience has me favoring Bliss Pop. That is what I am running now and to be honest I think I'm going back to 10b. The customizations are nice but to me it's not worth the problems associated with L.P. My opinion Bliss Pop has the best handle on the problems and still too much for me. I'm going to give LP a few months for the developers fix all bugs. Verizon hasn't released LP yet and there is reason behind that other than being big bully carrier. Once again my opinion only. You picked a great phone that is for sure!
I was wondering if their a way to receive and install OTA without having to unroot my device if you do can someone point me in the right direction thanks in advance
lavin40 said:
I was wondering if their a way to receive and install OTA without having to unroot my device if you do can someone point me in the right direction thanks in advance
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No. You must be on pure stock, never rooted or it will never accept it. Rooting modifies the system partition which the OTA senses and refuses to install.
And, if you are rooted, unrooting won't fix it as the system partition has already been modified.
Also, you have to remove TWRP (if bumped) as it cannot apply the OTA.
So you have to either flash back via TOT or KDZ to 12B and then start accepting the OTAs that way.
You can, however, try dirty flash JasmineROM 8.0 over what you have now (do a backup first). Several people have reported success dirty flashing over 23C. Make sure and wipe Cache & Dalvik before or after dirty flashing if you try it. Personally, I rarely dirty flash, but I have noticed several people commenting that it worked fine for them.
I would also use LG Backup in Settings / Backup & Reset menu first. That way, if everything doesn't come out right dirty flashing, you can wipe everything (data/system/cache/Dalvik), flash JasmineROM 8.0 again, and when it boots up, use LG Backup to restore what you did.
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So.. The Android 5.1.1 version is here and I've unrooted my phone for the update, but it still shows "Could not verify." Are there any files that cause the verifying process to know that I had rooted my device? If yes, can I delete it or what? Or are there any other ways to update without flashing a ftf file? (1. Because that ftf file is very big and my Internet speed couldn't afford it. 2. Because I don't want to wipe my apps and data) Any help would be appreciated!
@OP, If I understand right, it's the custom recovery you might have that prevents the OTA update from completing successfully. Which, in a way, is a good thing.
Step 1: reroot your phone while you still can.
Step 2: download any of a number of flashable, pre-rooted 5.1.1 ROMs with recovery (*.zip) floating around now and flash it with your current recovery, wiping only cache and Dalvik upon exit. This is what I've done to keep all my date and settings and still be rooted and have recovery on 5.1.1.
wicozani said:
@OP, If I understand right, it's the custom recovery you might have that prevents the OTA update from completing successfully. Which, in a way, is a good thing.
Step 1: reroot your phone while you still can.
Step 2: download any of a number of flashable, pre-rooted 5.1.1 ROMs with recovery (*.zip) floating around now and flash it with your current recovery, wiping only cache and Dalvik upon exit. This is what I've done to keep all my date and settings and still be rooted and have recovery on 5.1.1.
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After I flash this, can my phone update OTA or the same problem will happen?
As far as we know, custom recoveries will always prevent OTA updates to our Xperia devices. Why are OTA updates seemingly so important to you? With your custom recovery installed, you can always simply flash the new update when it becomes available; often before the OTA update is released.
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As far as we know, custom recoveries will always prevent OTA updates to our Xperia devices. Why are OTA updates seemingly so important to you? With your custom recovery installed, you can always simply flash the new update when it becomes available; often before the OTA update is released.
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Hmm okay thankyou
wicozani said:
As far as we know, custom recoveries will always prevent OTA updates to our Xperia devices. Why are OTA updates seemingly so important to you? With your custom recovery installed, you can always simply flash the new update when it becomes available; often before the OTA update is released.
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Can you give me a link for the official ROM? Thanks!
Can I use the AOSPA ROM? Does it need to unlock my bootloader to flash it?
Some consideration about this thread.
1) Not never the OTA updade overwrite the ROOT, example I passed from .627 to .28 through OTA update without lose the root and recovery. This depend of kind of update.
2) I think that to install a pre-rooted rom is not a good thing, because the baseband is almost always different an this can create issue related the WI-fi and carrier signal (3G, 4G).
3) I always installed the root, recovery and mod as well. But now I have understand that is not really necessary to install this. At least the stock Z2 have a good/beautiful OS and good hardware and there is no need to change some colors or icons to improve it.
I'm boring to flash and restore my data every new firmware or new mod. (now a new firmware is already certified and will be ready soon).
Maybe I will think to change the room when my phone will be obsolete
Regards
giancaleone said:
Some consideration about this thread.
1) Not never the OTA updade overwrite the ROOT, example I passed from .627 to .28 through OTA update without lose the root and recovery. This depend of kind of update.
2) I think that to install a pre-rooted rom is not a good thing, because the baseband is almost always different an this can create issue related the WI-fi and carrier signal (3G, 4G).
3) I always installed the root, recovery and mod as well. But now I have understand that is not really necessary to install this. At least the stock Z2 have a good/beautiful OS and good hardware and there is no need to change some colors or icons to improve it.
I'm boring to flash and restore my data every new firmware or new mod. (now a new firmware is already certified and will be ready soon).
Maybe I will think to change the room when my phone will be obsolete
Regards
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Totally understand, thankyou, so I just flash the original ROM from AOSPA and without root is enough right?
Wayhome said:
Totally understand, thankyou, so I just flash the original ROM from AOSPA and without root is enough right?
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If you do not have an unlocked bootloader, you cannot flash anything but a pre-rooted stock 5.1.1 ROM with recovery. There are several types available in the General Z2 column.
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I have a crazy thought flashed across my mind haha, that file that I downloaded via OTA SYSTEM UPDATE is still there, can I make it as a zip file and flash it?
Wayhome said:
I have a crazy thought flashed across my mind haha, that file that I downloaded via OTA SYSTEM UPDATE is still there, can I make it as a zip file and flash it?
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Why would you do that? You wouldn't have root and you wouldn't have a recovery; you'd be stuck, unable to root and install a recovery. Do what I said and you'll be fine.
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Can you help me to find one? That doesn't need to unlock bootloader to flash.