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Hi guys,
Just wondering if I can get root without unlocking the bootloader. Seems that I;m hearing that this isn't possible, which makes no sense. I know Verizon is Verizon when it comes to locking things down(They were even blocking free games on dumbphones back in the day so that you would have to buy them, even when the manufacturer included them for free), but it seems that gaining root access is completely different than flashing a new ROM. Am I correct here?
Also, would towelroot work for this phone? I know it's a nice simple solution, but I believe their claim is for phones manufactured before Jun '14.
Lastly, would a solution like Safestrap work here? It's what I used on my last phone (S3), when Verizon locked THAT down.
I know it is a battle fighting Verizon on this, and I know it takes time, I was just wondering if I am reading this right, or if I could root, but run the standard ROM, just with the extra access... Really, the phone is working so well that I just want better control for things like deleting/disabling/freezing stock apps and such.
Thanks for any help!! Sorry if this is in the wrong thread, seemed appropriate.
I am a user of H961N and it is also cannot be rooted.
I think root injection may be the answer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-100-root-success-directives-root-t3180586
This is the related thread in G4 forum. I have tried this method. However, I have encountered a problem shown below during the process:
Code:
D:\V10\LG_Root>Send_Command.exe \\.\COM8
Author : blog.lvu.kr
SPECIAL COMMAND : ENTER, LEAVE
#dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p51 of=/data/media/0/system.img
FAIL
#ls
FAIL
#
It keeps returning "FAIL" to me no matter what command i enter. I have asked about this in the thread in G4 forum but no one answer me, sad
I think that you may try it and it may work, as the above problem may not due to the phone but my computer.
Where did you get you system.img file? if you are using the one from the g4 it will not work. The file needs to be rooted for your device and then injected.
ivangundampc said:
I am a user of H961N and it is also cannot be rooted.
I think root injection may be the answer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-100-root-success-directives-root-t3180586
This is the related thread in G4 forum. I have tried this method. However, I have encountered a problem shown below during the process:
Code:
D:\V10\LG_Root>Send_Command.exe \\.\COM8
Author : blog.lvu.kr
SPECIAL COMMAND : ENTER, LEAVE
#dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p51 of=/data/media/0/system.img
FAIL
#ls
FAIL
#
It keeps returning "FAIL" to me no matter what command i enter. I have asked about this in the thread in G4 forum but no one answer me, sad
I think that you may try it and it may work, as the above problem may not due to the phone but my computer.
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ivangundampc said:
I am a user of H961N and it is also cannot be rooted.
I think root injection may be the answer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-100-root-success-directives-root-t3180586
This is the related thread in G4 forum. I have tried this method. However, I have encountered a problem shown below during the process:
It keeps returning "FAIL" to me no matter what command i enter. I have asked about this in the thread in G4 forum but no one answer me, sad
I think that you may try it and it may work, as the above problem may not due to the phone but my computer.
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I'm curious, the 'Fail' just means that it fails to work, right? Phone works fine after that and all? No bricking or need to restore? If so, that's a safe risk. Thanks for the suggestion.
Mikey1969 said:
I'm curious, the 'Fail' just means that it fails to work, right? Phone works fine after that and all? No bricking or need to restore? If so, that's a safe risk. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Yes, the phone is working fine after I have tried this. So it is a safe risk.
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spidey44 said:
Where did you get you system.img file? if you are using the one from the g4 it will not work. The file needs to be rooted for your device and then injected.
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That's why I am trying to clone the system partition but it shows fail
Good luck with this but I have a feeling that unless someone has an exploit laying around, you'll need an unlocked bootloader.
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Should this be in the Q and A sections as this is not development?
Don't have an LG v10 yet, but found this:
www.droidviews.com/how-to-root-lg-v10-with-supersu-v2-56/
Thought I'll share if someone would like to give this a shot.
(try at your own risk, that's all I can write to that, since i can't try myself.)
Thanks for this.....but i was reading that article...it says you root it by flashing the superuser zip in TWRP recovery....um....you cannot flash custom recovery without root....or am i missing something. Im not bashing you for posting the article. I thank you very much for posting it! More like questioning the articles validity.
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Thanks for this.....but i was reading that article...it says you root it by flashing the superuser zip in TWRP recovery....um....you cannot flash custom recovery without root....or am i missing something. Im not bashing you for posting the article. I thank you very much for posting it! More like questioning the articles validity.
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you need an unlocked bootloader
http://www.droidviews.com/how-to-unlock-bootloader-on-lg-v10/
and adb & fastboot tool, not root
To install a custom recovery
http://www.droidviews.com/how-to-install-twrp-recovery-on-lg-v10-h901/
That's how I usually would do it, the way it's described in the articles, since I still have to get my v10 from Far East can't test it.
And don't worry, I don't feel like you are bashing.
Life's too short to take anything too personal.
Awesome thank you for clearing that up!! I was totally confused for a second there.
GerManiac said:
you need an unlocked bootloader
http://www.droidviews.com/how-to-unlock-bootloader-on-lg-v10/
and adb & fastboot tool, not root
To install a custom recovery
http://www.droidviews.com/how-to-install-twrp-recovery-on-lg-v10-h901/
That's how I usually would do it, the way it's described in the articles, since I still have to get my v10 from Far East can't test it.
And don't worry, I don't feel like you are bashing.
Life's too short to take anything too personal.
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What you've mention is only working for tmobile V10, since it's bootloader can be easily unlocked while the other are not.
ivangundampc said:
What you've mention is only working for tmobile V10, since it's bootloader can be easily unlocked while the other are not.
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Thanks for clearing that up. Didn't know that and didn't see that on the article.
Cheers
I think if LG release a genuine ROM file, we could replace recovery parition with rooted one and flash it to our phone, that the only way open but LG hasn't released any ROM file yet.
phillymade said:
Should this be in the Q and A sections as this is not development?
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Sorry, wasn't sure, as I was asking about development.... Sometimes this is like a scene form the movie Big Trouble... At the airport, "Arrivals or Departures"? "Well, we're arriving at the airport, but then we're going to be departing.".
Hello everyone,
Right now I have another thread for the root over ADB with DirtySanta, I've that far. I have a potential method but I need more information on it from somebody else so I am waiting on a response from him, once i have that I'll work on it. If you guys have any other potential ideas that'd be great.
Thanks,
Abine45
This is my link to the root on ADB. I will be updating it tonight or tomorrow for the convenience of others. Thanks for waiting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-v10/general/temporary-root-adb-t3523538
NEW INFORMATION FOUND! I GOT SIGNIFICANT ROOT ACCESS WITH DIRTYSANTA!!!
SO i used the DirtySanta fearing for my life I wouldn't ruin my device, well the v10 failed it. rebooted and it didn't do anything but reboot back into the normal bootloader and stuff. But what i found is that he go the dirty cow to just work under root, so maybe from there we could do something, anybody have any ideas?
people care but it seems kind of like you expect people who have no clue to do any of this to assist. Hence the reason they are willing to pay a rather large sum of money for a bounty.
1. You cannot repackage a TOT file, well you can but, because it is digitally signed so that the locked boot loader will recognize it and allow it access to image the system. Repacking a rooted version on MM or Nougat will brick the phone if it is not digitally signed by LG.
2. You can pull a copy of the boot image with dirty cow but you can do that from the TOT or KDZ. You cannot put a new one in with dirty cow with out bricking the phone.
3. Most likely not. SELINUX policies combined with updates and fixes have removed most of the previous exploits.
4. Nothing personal but if you are asking us where the boot image resides... that does not inspire anyone here to give you a hand. You need to be in the android devs forum asking these questions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking
Haxcid said:
people care but it seems kind of like you expect people who have no clue to do any of this to assist. Hence the reason they are willing to pay a rather large sum of money for a bounty.
1. You cannot repackage a TOT file, well you can but, because it is digitally signed so that the locked boot loader will recognize it and allow it access to image the system. Repacking a rooted version on MM or Nougat will brick the phone if it is not digitally signed by LG.
2. You can pull a copy of the boot image with dirty cow but you can do that from the TOT or KDZ. You cannot put a new one in with dirty cow with out bricking the phone.
3. Most likely not. SELINUX policies combined with updates and fixes have removed most of the previous exploits.
4. Nothing personal but if you are asking us where the boot image resides... that does not inspire anyone here to give you a hand. You need to be in the android devs forum asking these questions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking
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How did Tungkick manage to repackage it then? The dirty cow exploit can exchange recovery though on an unlocked bootloader so shouldn't I be able to replace the boot image if done correctly wouldn't it work? I could possibly unpack everything and modify it all and test it but the issue comes back to repacking and flashing?
Ask him, but if you attempt to do this on a locked and encrypted boot loader then you will brick the phone. I mean think about it, if it was really just that simple every phone would be rooted and rom'd. Most phones running 6 or above have had the security vastly increased to make the phone secure so they can be used by government employees. Hence the introduction to SELINUX polices into the kernel which is why getting root is so unbelievably difficult. The locked boot loader resets everything at boot so getting root and maintaining is so hard combined with SELINUX does not allow standard root to perm. write anything to the system partition and then good old hboot kills anything you did mange to write on reboot... you can start to see how difficult this really is.
Tungkick did this on 5.1 Lollipop not 6.0 Marshmallow. The above mentioned difficulties with increased SELunix security plus 6.0 and up requires systemless root.
Still would love to know why no dev will go near this Phone. Does XDA have some deal with LG to not hack their phones? Very fishy why every dev avoids this device like it has the plague.
beavis5706 said:
Tungkick did this on 5.1 Lollipop not 6.0 Marshmallow. The above mentioned difficulties with increased SELunix security plus 6.0 and up requires systemless root.
Still would love to know why no dev will go near this Phone. Does XDA have some deal with LG to not hack their phones? Very fishy why every dev avoids this device like it has the plague.
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LG are just not popular devices for hacking due to they make if extremely difficult. LG is a Corp. friendly company it is why Verizon loves them where companies like HTC are a bit more user sympathetic.
Funny you say that
beavis5706 said:
Tungkick did this on 5.1 Lollipop not 6.0 Marshmallow. The above mentioned difficulties with increased SELunix security plus 6.0 and up requires systemless root.
Still would love to know why no dev will go near this Phone. Does XDA have some deal with LG to not hack their phones? Very fishy why every dev avoids this device like it has the plague.
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Funny you say that! Tungick said to me, and i quote "[email protected]#$g you" and blocked me from Facebook. He also told me that he wouldn't tell me because it's a secret. He didn't speak very great English, that's why there is an ing at the end of the F-bomb. I asked Jcase through XDA and he said he wouldn't and so i put it better explanation of help through an email and he said I was harassing him... In which case before hand he said he doesn't develop for LG because he says basically we are A-holes sadly and that we don't live up to our donation pledges.
That's what I'm saying though. It's like no dev will go anywhere near an LG device, at least the newer ones anyway.
They can't be much harder to crack than Samsung and those are getting cracked.
The person who rooted 5.1 on V10 basically tells you to F off. Yeah there is nothing odd about that.
beavis5706 said:
That's what I'm saying though. It's like no dev will go anywhere near an LG device, at least the newer ones anyway.
They can't be much harder to crack than Samsung and those are getting cracked.
The person who rooted 5.1 on V10 basically tells you to F off. Yeah there is nothing odd about that.
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True, that's why I'm going to try to do it. If you know anything and want to help could use it.
Wish I could help. All I know here is you need systemless root on 6.0+. This has nothing to do with the v10 in particular. Systemless root should work on all devices 6.0+. It has already been achieved on the Galaxy s7 and it has locked bootloader. I don't see any reason why this can't work on the v10.
I just installed Linux on my computer gonna try somethings this weekend... We need to keep in touch
qujuanmiller said:
I just installed Linux on my computer gonna try somethings this weekend... We need to keep in touch
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For sure, message me on xda.
beavis5706 said:
Wish I could help. All I know here is you need systemless root on 6.0+. This has nothing to do with the v10 in particular. Systemless root should work on all devices 6.0+. It has already been achieved on the Galaxy s7 and it has locked bootloader. I don't see any reason why this can't work on the v10.
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Anybody can help! Do some research and send it and whatever you would like to do. Try different things, Try to modify bits of code and see what you can do! Always gotta start somewhere!
Modify code? You just went way above my head. I know about root, certainly don't know how to achieve it. That's why I count on the folks at XDA. I only have one v10, can't afford to brick it. Plus I already have root on 5.1.1 and I heard that 6.0 causes this phone to have problems.
Many, many v10's were offered up in order to attain root. Not one was taken by any dev. Maybe you can still get your hands on one of those.
You need to find someone that knows about systemless root. Without that you aren't getting anywhere.
beavis5706 said:
Modify code? You just went way above my head. I know about root, certainly don't know how to achieve it. That's why I count on the folks at XDA. I only have one v10, can't afford to brick it. Plus I already have root on 5.1.1 and I heard that 6.0 causes this phone to have problems.
Many, many v10's were offered up in order to attain root. Not one was taken by any dev. Maybe you can still get your hands on one of those.
You need to find someone that knows about systemless root. Without that you aren't getting anywhere.
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The thing with that is the fact that even if I know how systemless root works, I still have no way to install it, so first I need to find a way to get in the system.
Think I might have a way though
From what I understand systemless root will modify the boot image to attain root. Super SU will decide how to flash based on firmware version. Will automatically root normal with Lollipop and down, will automatically modify boot image on Marshmallow and up. How you will be able to modify the boot image on a VS990 without bricking it I don't know.
In order to do system less root we need a unlocked bootloader... It says that everywhere I'm reading
Hi abine45,
Please read this post completely, the guys here are close to obtain the perma root on android 6, using dirty cow.
https://github.com/timwr/CVE-2016-5195/issues/9
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I looked at this thread... a bit more technical than I am able to do... did it end up working? Looks like no, but I might have missed something.
Thanks!
i have been trying root apps like kingroot ect to root with and without pc and it fails everytime.
does boost have something in these phones to prevent it? yes according to kingroot my bootloader was unlocked when i tried rooting. if it helps my device info is
model# LGLs755
hardware. Rev 1.1
android version. 6.0.1
Kernel 3.18.22
build#MXB48T
if their is a way that has worked please let me know...thanks
oh and is their a way to perm unlock the bootloader that wont mess anything up
bigmoe1738 said:
i have been trying root apps like kingroot ect to root with and without pc and it fails everytime.
does boost have something in these phones to prevent it? yes according to kingroot my bootloader was unlocked when i tried rooting. if it helps my device info is
model# LGLs755
hardware. Rev 1.1
android version. 6.0.1
Kernel 3.18.22
build#MXB48T
if their is a way that has worked please let me know...thanks
oh and is their a way to perm unlock the bootloader that wont mess anything up
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Good morning BigMoe1738,
I think that you should try Kingoroot App or iRoot (if you have a PC of course) to root your LG. I have rooted my own LG L3ii using iRoot, but I do not own the LG Ls755.
Please inform me if you try these methods.
Regards,
Apousiologos
I'm finding that the LG x Power is bullet proof. I have tried every kind of way to root it that I can find on the black mart to the internet and youtube. Nothing seems to want to work. The good news is the phone doesn't brick after a failed attempt. That is my experience only. It may freeze up but still can be turned off and back on again.
So I ask... Is there any working things out there?
I want to learn to code to make a way to root if someone wants to help me? Trying to get info to learn how and linux a computer.
Just got a system update from LG... Wondering if I should hold off on it as long as I can?
Such a sad strange sick world we live in where we have to knowingly attempt to make our mobile computers vulnerable to viruses just to have administrative rights to a system we bought and paid for...
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Rooting work with FRP lock enabled?
Hi, I am trying to root my Lg X Power as well. However in preparation of this, I factory reset it, completely forgetting about the FRP.
So long story short, I need some sort of bypass for the FRP lock, or a way to root that doesn't care about the FRP being activated.
Hey I just found a post about it at another page, they claim it works on this model, as well as other versions of the X power, has anyone read about it or try it??
NoBrickToday said:
I'm finding that the LG x Power is bullet proof. I have tried every kind of way to root it that I can find on the black mart to the internet and youtube. Nothing seems to want to work. The good news is the phone doesn't brick after a failed attempt. That is my experience only. It may freeze up but still can be turned off and back on again.
So I ask... Is there any working things out there?
I want to learn to code to make a way to root if someone wants to help me? Trying to get info to learn how and linux a computer.
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I would so be down for that if someone would right the code I could figure out how to get that far.
If we can get a stock image for my LG x charge (lg x sp320) im ready to install Magisk...
I have a boost lg-320 7.1.1 can anyone help me with rooting? Ive tried all the obvious one clickers and im without a PC.
james.ellis92 said:
I have a boost lg-320 7.1.1 can anyone help me with rooting? Ive tried all the obvious one clickers and im without a PC.
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Here you go:
1) Obtain hammer
2) smash LG Phone
3) research, research, research
4) buy different phone with working root
In all seriousness, if you can take the phone back do so. LG phones do not root. If unable to return it, hopefully you at least got a good deal. Next time do the homework and buy something with a known root. The days of buying a phone and just rooting it with an all-in-one kit are over.
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bornagainpenguin said:
Here you go:
1) Obtain hammer
2) smash LG Phone
3) research, research, research
4) buy different phone with working root
In all seriousness, if you can take the phone back do so. LG phones do not root. If unable to return it, hopefully you at least got a good deal. Next time do the homework and buy something with a known root. The days of buying a phone and just rooting it with an all-in-one kit are over.
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I don't understand why LGLS755 are so hard to root. I tried for months to root it. XDA can't do it I have tried every root tool myself.
boots123456 said:
I don't understand why LGLS755 are so hard to root. I tried for months to root it. XDA can't do it I have tried every root tool myself.
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The reason it can't be rooted is because manufacturers and software developers are securing THEIR investment. By locking down devices it increases security measures against malicious attacks from outside sources and software and decreases the risk of consumers reporting vulnerabilities and attacks on their hardware and software due to end-user modification.
While we own the individual hardware with the software installed, we do not own the RIGHTS or LICENSE to the software and hardware. Therefore we cannot claim to be able to do whatever we want with the device just because it's in our pockets.
You want root? Get any Samsung, HTC, Pixel or older LG device. While the same rule above applies, people try harder on them because they are the most popular devices among users and the ecosystem between them is very similar and easily exploitable.
Aside from all that, root and rom developers don't really give many ****s about low-end, stupid cheap hardware anymore like they used to. *Insert related Metallica lyric here*
DrSubstance said:
Hi, I am trying to root my Lg X Power as well. However in preparation of this, I factory reset it, completely forgetting about the FRP.
So long story short, I need some sort of bypass for the FRP lock, or a way to root that doesn't care about the FRP being activated.
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I bypassed this with the talkback option
How do i root my phone
How do i root my phone it's really pissed me off
bornagainpenguin said:
Here you go:
1) Obtain hammer
2) smash LG Phone
3) research, research, research
4) buy different phone with working root
In all seriousness, if you can take the phone back do so. LG phones do not root. If unable to return it, hopefully you at least got a good deal. Next time do the homework and buy something with a known root. The days of buying a phone and just rooting it with an all-in-one kit are over.
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what? LG phones can get ROOT, its just difficult to do so, and some models can't get it, but not all of them... just unlock bootloader, install the right recovery and then flash super su, of course every phone is different and the procedures may be different
Antel1904 said:
what? LG phones can get ROOT, its just difficult to do so, and some models can't get it, but not all of them... just unlock bootloader, install the right recovery and then flash super su, of course every phone is different and the procedures may be different
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Yeah? Those some models have included the last three that I've purchased. Most of the time a root exists for some European model but not the US model so when I try to do my diligence and research it comes up as having a root method only for me to discover that the method does not actually work.
Your word games to the contrary I think the posts in this thread make it clear that LG phones do not have root. Much easier to write off LG than to keep wasting money on phones that don't actually root. Effectively LG phones do not root.
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I am sorry you haven't rooted yet with this phone.
james.ellis92 said:
I have a boost lg-320 7.1.1 can anyone help me with rooting? Ive tried all the obvious one clickers and im without a PC.
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Hi,
I have the same phone. Lg-sp320 x-charge. On boost/sprint. I have a computer and i can use adb to push files and run a script. I don't know if i need to preform a permanent oem unlock for the bootloader. And im sure i can probably find, well i hope i could find an original firmware. Any help would be a godsend. Thanks.
LG phones do too root. I've done several
equitube said:
LG phones do too root. I've done several
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Great!
Root this one. Root the last several LG phones released. LG phones *used* to root. They do not any more.
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bornagainpenguin said:
Your word games to the contrary I think the posts in this thread make it clear that LG phones do not have root. Much easier to write off LG than to keep wasting money on phones that don't actually root. Effectively LG phones do not root.
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I've rooted several LG phones
Hi I want to know if anyone knows how too root the LG G Pad X 2 10.1 UK750 model and if not then if I can get a hold of a developer who can help. Thank You
Bump-I want to root this thing too, it's a pretty good pad if I could only get the LG crap off of it
Just bought one at US Cellular
I would also like to know this. Seems like a decent tablet for the price I got it
I can supply a system dump I believe, if it will help. If anyone finds anything- please, post it here. Having what few scraps we can find in one spot has to help.
We have to know the bootloader can be unlocked and are all fastboot commands stay intact.
Here's a system dump if that'll help at all.
mingkee said:
We have to know the bootloader can be unlocked and are all fastboot commands stay intact.
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Here's a system dump. ADB works, can't get into fastboot. I have developer options enabled and I CAN enable OEM unlock...but of course LG isn't allowing unlocking on their dev site.
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We have to know the bootloader can be unlocked and are all fastboot commands stay intact.
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I can get into download mode, and adb works. Fastboot doesn't seem to be there. I suppose it might be possible to factory sign a modified .kdz? I don't know enough to know if that's possible, but I'll test it if you try and make one
LG Gpad X II 10.1 REALLY want to ROOT!!
Ok, more stuff. Here's a stock boot image and a patched boot image I extracted with magisk. Can anyone figure out a way to put these together and sign it such that it will install? I really want to root this thing. I am willing to try just about anything that stands a chance of working. If you're a dev and willing to at least give it a try, let me know and I'm ready to go at it. If I brick it trying I'm not going to be worried about it-it's nearly useless to me without root.
I notice the stock .Marshmallow .kdz is out in the world now...is there any way to factory sign a modified .kdz and install that, maybe?
wyvernwaddell said:
Ok, more stuff. Here's a stock boot image and a patched boot image I extracted with magisk. Can anyone figure out a way to put these together and sign it such that it will install? I really want to root this thing. I am willing to try just about anything that stands a chance of working. If you're a dev and willing to at least give it a try, let me know and I'm ready to go at it. If I brick it trying I'm not going to be worried about it-it's nearly useless to me without root.
I notice the stock .Marshmallow .kdz is out in the world now...is there any way to factory sign a modified .kdz and install that, maybe?
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The Android 6.0.1 Build is MXB48T" the same android build as the Pixel C, maybe you can make something from the Pixel C.
Hiya!
I'm a decent bugtester, but definitely not a Developer..I'd be more than happy to bugtest anything installable if someone can come up with it. I did find I can get into EDL mode..but have no idea how to work with it.
Also gonna bump this, I don't even need permanent root or anything like that. I only want to change one line in the build prop so that I can use all apps in dual window (persist.splitwindow.support_all), and setprop did not work.
I've sat over this device for hours at a time, trying every obscure one click root tool, method, and app, to no avail. Strange for a device with a 2016 security patch.
I will test anything you guys can find, regardless of brick potential. I need that split window goodness.
Follow the instruction of your OS (GrapheneOS or CalyxOS) as normal, then just before locking the bootloader back follow the guide here. The end result is a OS with Magisk and root, but the bootloader can not be lock again (because of the root process).
So, if you would like to be able to record call, block advertisement and enjoy your device because it is your freedom to do with your device what ever you want, root your OS.
PS, if security is more important then privacy, rooting is not the way to go, at the moment I didnt find how to maintain both
Old news.
And technically, you CAN relock the bootloader if you wanted to, by resigning everything. There's links (somewhere, you'll have to search for it) to a program on git that someone wrote to do this, but I haven't tried it.
The reality is that locking the bootloader really doesn't do much for you. It might protect you a BIT if you lose physical control over it, but when you lose physical control over a device, you have to assume that its been compromised anyway.
Locking the bootloader will be essential in the future when Google enforces Hardware Backed attestation for those who use contactless payments.
This is good to know.
shoey63 said:
Locking the bootloader will be essential in the future when Google enforces Hardware Backed attestation for those who use contactless payments.
This is good to know.
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Source?
96carboard said:
Source?
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It's all in This thread
Edit: More reading Here
shoey63 said:
It's all in This thread
Edit: More reading Here
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Your links seem to be showing something about current issues that people are having, not about something "in the future" regarding enforcement of locked bootloader.
Edit: what I'm looking for is some statement from gooble that they intend to make some changes with respect to this, otherwise it appears to be just speculation.
Edit 2: The subject is also pretty off topic, since there's a good chance that it doesn't come into play at all with graphene or calyx, both of which do NOT include integrated binary gooble services. Graphene goes to a lot of trouble to make it installable, but strongly isolated from everything else, which includes restricting hardware status flags from being readable by it. Calyx promotes microG.
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Old news.
And technically, you CAN relock the bootloader if you wanted to, by resigning everything. There's links (somewhere, you'll have to search for it) to a program on git that someone wrote to do this, but I haven't tried it.
The reality is that locking the bootloader really doesn't do much for you. It might protect you a BIT if you lose physical control over it, but when you lose physical control over a device, you have to assume that its been compromised anyway.
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It may be old news for you, I didnt find it anywhere. That is why I posted it here, just in case there are people like me that looking for that answer.
Asking in the GrapheneOS chats, I only got an answer that rooting is not supported and not recommended.
Since I'm using call recorder to my work and will be glad to block advertisements locally, and god forbid, I also would like to use either Graphene or CalyxOS.
I dont see other way around it unless using root.
Can you please send your links for looking back the bootloader? that will be awesome. Thanks!
HQwarp said:
Can you please send your links for looking back the bootloader? that will be awesome. Thanks!
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Use the search bar at the top of the screen, or read through all the other threads in the 6 and 6pro forums, that's what I would have to do to find it for you.
96carboard said:
Use the search bar at the top of the screen, or read through all the other threads in the 6 and 6pro forums, that's what I would have to do to find it for you.
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Very sad respond from you. You can be helpful and point me to the right direction and with less arrogance attitude of yours...
XDA is a place to share knowledge, not to show your arrogance on how good you are to type in google search.
FYI, if anyone want to sign the bootloader after using Magisk this is probably the way
Rooting Graphene/Calyx/LeOS/DivestOS/eOS/CopperHead completely defeats t he purpose as now it gives potentially a malicious app root abilities.
As the head of Graphene's Twitter once said "but why... that opens so many security risk doors"|
You can't re-lock the bootloader with root unless you create a new avb-key. Don't bother rooting security roms, its pointless.
Yes, you are right, it is lowering the security of the phone. But, that's ok, each one with his use case of attack. If it is ok for you to use your phone without sudo, good for you. Since I'm not Edward Snowden and I'm not afraid to use sudo on my machines, and when I do, I know enough when and how to use it.
Therefore, I don't see why I can't use sudo on my phone. Especially when some of us do need our phone to perform tasks that currently are not supported by Security oriented OS as you mentioned, AND also do want to lower our information footprint on the net. For this case using sudo on the formation ROMs seems ideal.
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Very sad respond from you.
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Very sad that you expect to be spoon fed when you have the capacity to search for yourself.
to make it easier for people who may look for it (I was one of those people)
this is that script mentioned earlier which will allow you to resign the rom to allow you to lock the bootloader with Magisk https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...s-and-add-adb-root-and-other-changes.4440367/
This is exactly what I needed https://github.com/chenxiaolong/avbroot
I believe so anyway, still actually trying to get it to work, just need to setup android studio as far as I can make out
then you can easily patch the rom with magisk and sign it with your own keys
And this information could be useful as well https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/signing-boot-images-for-android-verified-boot-avb-v8.3600606/
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to make it easier for people who may look for it (I was one of those people)
this is that script mentioned earlier which will allow you to resign the rom to allow you to lock the bootloader with Magisk https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...s-and-add-adb-root-and-other-changes.4440367/
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So how would this work? Would I have to unlock and wipe after every update
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So how would this work? Would I have to unlock and wipe after every update
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I have been working on this when I have had time, I have been able to successfully flash Graphene with Magisk and lock the bootloader, turning what I learned into this guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lock-boot-loader-magisk-root-grapheneos.4510295/
I believe there is a way to update with signed OTA files that are patched with Magisk, using AVBRoot that I use in the guide
I haven't figured this part out yet. it took me long enough just to work it out for the firmware/system rom but I will definitely be trying and updating the guide as I learn more about the process
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I have been working on this when I have had time, I have been able to successfully flash Graphene with Magisk and lock the bootloader, turning what I learned into this guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lock-boot-loader-magisk-root-grapheneos.4510295/
I believe there is a way to update with signed OTA files that are patched with Magisk, using AVBRoot that I use in the guide
I haven't figured this part out yet. it took me long enough just to work it out for the firmware/system rom but I will definitely be trying and updating the guide as I learn more about the process
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That sounds extremely promising.
Since proton is obsolete now, I'm searching for a rom with sandboxed google play that I can root. Rooting GrapheneOS seems to be the only way for that.
Locking bootlaoder doesn't really matter to me, but rooting graphene and then being able to dirty flash updates later (I don't care about OTAs, even if it's cool and comfortable) is important.
How would you update graphene right now when you're rooted? Just dirty flash the new rom, then flash patched boot.img?
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That sounds extremely promising.
Since proton is obsolete now, I'm searching for a rom with sandboxed google play that I can root. Rooting GrapheneOS seems to be the only way for that.
Locking bootlaoder doesn't really matter to me, but rooting graphene and then being able to dirty flash updates later (I don't care about OTAs, even if it's cool and comfortable) is important.
How would you update graphene right now when you're rooted? Just dirty flash the new rom, then flash patched boot.img?
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If you don't care about locking the boot loader you do lose some physical security advantages of it
but it does make the process easier, I believe you should just be able to use AVBRoot as it's intended
GitHub - chenxiaolong/avbroot: Maintain Android Verified Boot using a custom key while rooted with Magisk
Maintain Android Verified Boot using a custom key while rooted with Magisk - GitHub - chenxiaolong/avbroot: Maintain Android Verified Boot using a custom key while rooted with Magisk
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Once you have completed all the initial steps then updates are as simple as
Follow step 6 in the previous section to patch the new OTA (or an existing OTA with a newer Magisk APK).
Reboot to recovery mode. If stuck at a No command screen, press the volume up button once while holding down the power button.
Sideload the patched OTA.
Reboot.
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If you don't care about locking the boot loader you do lose some physical security advantages of it
but it does make the process easier, I believe you should just be able to use AVBRoot as it's intended
GitHub - chenxiaolong/avbroot: Maintain Android Verified Boot using a custom key while rooted with Magisk
Maintain Android Verified Boot using a custom key while rooted with Magisk - GitHub - chenxiaolong/avbroot: Maintain Android Verified Boot using a custom key while rooted with Magisk
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If updating is that easy with a locked bootloader I'm gonna try this. Thanks for your efforts man
Anyone know if I can I expect the same procedures to work for GOS installed on a Pixel 5 or 4?