Hi there.
My cousin dropped his phone and completely shattered the front glass. Phone still worked fine though. Went shopping for a replacement LCD+Touch glass part and finally found a shop which charged him about 60 bucks (this included service).
The display is not terrible, but it's definitely a no-brand spare, it's darker, has a blue-ish tint to it and on top of that, it seems to run on a lower resolution. It works fine for looking at memes on social media and stuff, but text and icons look jagged. The system effectively believes it's running untouched at 1080x1920 (checked via "wm size"), but the display itself is pushing less pixels than that.
He can live with that, though, so here comes my question point for discussion: Is there any practical way to measure the actual, physical resolution of this display?
I just thought it would be nice for Android to render everything at this display's native resolution. Jagged edges wont be gone, but I'm pretty sure using appropiate graphics assets and proper density is better than whatever downscaling is happening here.
Regards.
Get a magnifying glass and count the number of physical pixels.
All jokes aside, if you're rooted you can first try figure out what panel you have with "dmesg | grep panel" in terminal.
Other than that you should go back to the store your cousin got the screen repaired and demand an explanation from them and a refund.
Attached is the output I get on my own Z2 which has a OEM display. I didn't need root for this hehe. Lets see what it looks like on his phone next time I meet with him.
I really think requesting a refund is out of the question, it's been a few weeks since the repair took place and service technicians are a PITA to deal with 'round here.
Anyhow, what I'm worried about the most is software updates on the repaired Z2. Chinese knock-off parts are known to stop working or straight out break when treated with non-factory default firmware. It's sitting on 5.1 as we speak.
Update: The replacement display works after an upgrade to M build .291, the phone is now rooted and equiped with TWRP. I'll try to run
Code:
wm size 540x960
and
Code:
wm density 240
on it and see what happens. It could very well be a half-resolution panel, or a FWVGA one, we'll see.
UPDATE #2: The display looks worse after the fact. There's no saving it haha.
you buy a stock dislay from Sony or others?
Are they jagged or actually interlacing? I got a replacement that looked jagged but then I noticed they were actually interlacing which kind of looks like every other pixel is tearing slightly.
That gave it a jagged look. So it may be the right resolution, but just a faulty LCD. I was sent a new screen on request (ebay).
Either way you should get a replacement.
i got some low res display cheap from china. it was horrific resolution.. device also crashed ala bluescreen-of-death, especially when plying blossom blast or watching fb video. i ordered a display from eu on ebay, and now i'm happy again. and so is the device.
Same here and how to make things better
Flash kcal flashable mod and then use these settings R=255
Green=250 blue=245
Saturation =65
Value=135
Contrast =135
Ok turns out he broke the display again. This second replacement actually looks great, there's little difference when compared side-by-side with my Z2. Good thing he's no longer doomed to a bad display haha.
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Flash kcal flashable mod and then use these settings R=255
Green=250 blue=245
Saturation =65
Value=135
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Not sure how this is supposed to help with resolution. Perhaps it would help with the blue tint, but the stock white balance does this as well.
Da Iceman said:
Are they jagged or actually interlacing? I got a replacement that looked jagged but then I noticed they were actually interlacing which kind of looks like every other pixel is tearing slightly.
That gave it a jagged look. So it may be the right resolution, but just a faulty LCD. I was sent a new screen on request (ebay).
Either way you should get a replacement.
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Now that you mention it, that could explain the scanlines effect when looked up close.
rbrandser said:
i got some low res display cheap from china. it was horrific resolution.. device also crashed ala bluescreen-of-death, especially when plying blossom blast or watching fb video. i ordered a display from eu on ebay, and now i'm happy again. and so is the device.
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Glad to know that. Who is this "eu"? Europe? Lol I'm out of touch here. Glad to know you got a fine display.
I REALLY hope to never ever need to go through display replacement lottery.
Compared to other devices, this Xperia is not hard to repair, and there are cheap spare parts, and quality parts available from a number of EUropean sellers.
Anyway, it's Friday, good to see this forum again, it's really a nice place.
Oh yeah, my daughter after terrorizing me for years finally made me buy her an iPhone, well... I'm waiting for replacement display nr5 for this 5s in a year now. Lol.
Pixelado said:
Hi there.
My cousin dropped his phone and completely shattered the front glass. Phone still worked fine though. Went shopping for a replacement LCD+Touch glass part and finally found a shop which charged him about 60 bucks (this included service).
The display is not terrible, but it's definitely a no-brand spare, it's darker, has a blue-ish tint to it and on top of that, it seems to run on a lower resolution. It works fine for looking at memes on social media and stuff, but text and icons look jagged. The system effectively believes it's running untouched at 1080x1920 (checked via "wm size"), but the display itself is pushing less pixels than that.
He can live with that, though, so here comes my question point for discussion: Is there any practical way to measure the actual, physical resolution of this display?
I just thought it would be nice for Android to render everything at this display's native resolution. Jagged edges wont be gone, but I'm pretty sure using appropiate graphics assets and proper density is better than whatever downscaling is happening here.
Regards.
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Can you send me a link for the original replacement display?
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Can you send me a link for the original replacement display?
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Sorry, he bought his display from a brick and mortar store, I have no idea where they get their parts from
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Hello, I just got a Thunderbolt through my work and I noticed the screen tends to wash out at angles. I had this same problem with my T-Mobile HTC Glacier or MT4G. It turned out to be 2 different vendors Sharp and Sony displays being used in this model. Once I got the good display it was a noticeable difference in the quality of the better display vs the bad one. Direct viewing from straight on is ok just as it was on the HTC Glacier. So I just wonder if anyone might have a good one and could post some pics to show.
Here is my original thread for the HTC Glacier with the Screen issues. There are some pictures and videos to compare the differences. I'm seeing some washing out at angles, especially around the clock digits where this problem is easily seen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863679
Here are some pictures of mine with the Sharp screen. The noticeable areas are the clock widget black areas where they flip.
I'd say it's possible. I'm sure they have more than one place that manufactures the devices. There's been some variability in the build quality of the devices, so it's not too far fetched.
I don't have a camera other than my phone to take pictures, though. It looks like a really good display to me and doesn't "wash out"
You're right there are two displays. I went to the store last week to compare my phone with the display. Because I used to have the mytouch 4g and it took three tries to get one with a nice display. So I was surprise, when I saw the display model and colors were not as vibrant as mine. Man did I get Lucky, first try and it's a winner.
This is interesting. I ran a "dmesg |grep panel" and it returned sharp. I wonder if anyone would get Sony.
Mine is noticeably worse than my MT4G that had the good screen.
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If you ask me, there is no doubt that there are two panels for this device. My first TBolt (which had several problems) had a really bad screen and I complained about it in another thread like this one. I had it exchanged and the new one is VERY much better. The first one was not crisp, colors were bad, looked blown out next to my DInc OLED. The replacement is crisp and the colors are beautiful.
I didn't get a chance to compare side-by-side, but everyone who had seen my first one, even my wife who is pretty oblivious about these things, would say that the new one is dramatically better.
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If you ask me, there is no doubt that there are two panels for this device. My first TBolt (which had several problems) had a really bad screen and I complained about it in another thread like this one. I had it exchanged and the new one is VERY much better. The first one was not crisp, colors were bad, looked blown out next to my DInc OLED. The replacement is crisp and the colors are beautiful.
I didn't get a chance to compare side-by-side, but everyone who had seen my first one, even my wife who is pretty oblivious about these things, would say that the new one is dramatically better.
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Thanks, could some of you with good screens do a dmesg in terminal and report if you have a sharp or Sony panel. Make sure you restart then immediately run the terminal and dmesg command. Mine is a sharp so I'm thinking it is the bad display. Also if you can post some pictures of the screen from the side at extreme angles.
I will try to take some pictures of mine and post them tomorrow.
Before some of you start stating your opinions about looking at the screen at angles, yes there are situations where you are viewing at angles. Also it has been proven at least in the MT4G with the bad sharp display that the colors are not as vivid as with the sony screen even when looking straight on.
Mine is made in Taiwan. If you have a good one post where it was made please.
Mine returned Sharp.. and the screen is much better than my OG droid and my wife's fasicnate. I can read this post at ~160ish degrees, sooo.. no idea
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Mine returned Sharp.. and the screen is much better than my OG droid and my wife's fasicnate. I can read this post at ~160ish degrees, sooo.. no idea
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Reading this board may not be enough to tell. I will be interested to see if anyone has a Sony screen to compare.
The point is, everything I do on this phone can be done at that angle, in relation to using the screen. Colors do not change, only the brightness, as to be expected from a gloss screen (and gloss screen protector).
I personally think that shows a quality screen.
Definitely not something to worry about.
FYI : I have my dpi set to 200 if that matters
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Here are some more pictures which stand out more with green colors. You can really tell the difference as you tilt to angles and the deep green contrast is lost and it is hard to define the icons. The middle picture is taken from straight on and you can see the difference. I think on the Good Sony displays there will be no difference when looking from angles. I really suspect that the same display problems are following from HTC and the MT4G.
Is there any way to tell my looking at the hardware number what screen we have?
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Is there any way to tell my looking at the hardware number what screen we have?
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No I doubt it, we could never tell with the MT4G. The only one thing that seemed to hold true in the beginning was the ones made in China had a higher percentage of the good screens and more of the ones made in Taiwan had the more of the bad ones.
i have a sharp panel as well. i'm no connoisseur apparently because i think my screen looks just as good as my old incredible.
I have one made in taiwan and it is essentially flawless, only thing wrong with it is 2 very tiny dots of light leak which can only be seen in pitch black
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No I doubt it, we could never tell with the MT4G. The only one thing that seemed to hold true in the beginning was the ones made in China had a higher percentage of the good screens and more of the ones made in Taiwan had the more of the bad ones.
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Odd, mine is made in Taiwan, are all bolts produced there now?
dmesg says sharp panel, but I have no complaints about viewing angle or contrast after quite a bit of fiddling with it and trying to find something to whine about.
I have a sharp panel and it's better than the display model at my local store. I used to own a mytouch 4g, it took three tries to get a good display. And the good display was made in china. My TB is made in Taiwan.
This would explain why some claim to have gorilla glass style display that can't be scratched and others are getting scratches from car keys.
My first phone the digitizer went out after a drop out of the car (no glass broken or cosmetic issues just said touch panel- fail) and the second phone has light leakage not just at the bottom but at the corners too. There is a gap at the right corner for whatever to get into my phone.
I want to know if there is a different 'nicer' panel. It seems quite a few people are popping up with broken digitizers...
The phone I have is a Sharp lq043y1dx04
How do I know? Because I busted mine open to try and fix my broken digitizer. You can see pics and read the story in my post "Anyone want to see the inside of a thunderbolt?"
Still no replacements out there :-(
Digitizer or LCD
I have not taken this phone apart. But I did replace the digitizer on the HTC INC. The Digitizer is separate from the LCD in that phone. Does anyone know if the Digitizer is separate in the Thunderbolt? If so, it does not matter who the manufacturer of the LCD is.
I to agree with this thread that the digitizer on the Thunderrbolt is very easily scratched especially compared to the HTC INC.
Hey guys, as we know, the very first batch of any device likely will have some flaws. Hopefully this won't happen to the nexus 10. Anyway, Im a very picky consumer so I have to ensure my device is perfect. So I will list some of the things we need to check when the item arrives. feel free to give tips etc..
1/ Check the screen to see there are any dead pixels/ discolored area/ uneven white screen/ yellow or pink spots
2/ Light bleed
3/ any scratch on the body
4/Buttons are all good.
5/ Speakers
All I can think of so far..
also would want to check if the cameras, radios, ports, battery and other such components work properly, along with checking along the seams of the tablet to make sure it is solidly put together.
Microscope... check EVERY pixel.
I also have a few questions. It has to deal with the snap on cover if anyone got those (if they are out). When you unfold the cover does the screen light up like the iPad does with its smart cover. And also can the cover be used as a stand or does it just fall over? And how bad is the lag on Chrome compared to anyone who has used Safari on an iPad. Thanks. I'm hoping to switch from my ipad to the nexus 10!
Add couple more
1. Check GPS
2. Pixel check can be done with https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ossibussoftware.deadpixeltest&hl=en
Will Google even replaces screens with a couple dead pixels?
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duarian said:
Will Google even replaces screens with a couple dead pixels?
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Well in my case they'd be replacing the screen whether they intended to or not. If I had to, I'd just order a new one, then send the old one back in its place and say I changed my mind. And that just if they didn't want to exchange a clearly defective product. Up to them, but either way I'm going to make it right for myself in the end :good:
With 2560x1600 x3 sub-pixels (=12.288.000 pixels) you will very likely not get a sample without a single defective sub-pixel. Doesn't really matter either, a stuck sub-pixel at 300 DPI resolution is so small that it will be hard to find even if you "know" where it is.
My tab 10.1 and GS3 first batch were flawless. I expect a pretty close to perfect initial batch here as well. This isn't Asus or HTC.
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My tab 10.1 and GS3 first batch were flawless. I expect a pretty close to perfect initial batch here as well. This isn't Asus or HTC.
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Bam !
Good point !
Samsung has an excellent track record!
Nothing is for sure but every samsung product ive ever had has been perfect!
From my Note 2
It's not only about the company behind the product, it's also about math/probability.
Hint: Try counting the sub-pixels on the Galaxy 10.1 or S3 and compare to the N10.
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My tab 10.1 and GS3 first batch were flawless. I expect a pretty close to perfect initial batch here as well. This isn't Asus or HTC.
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not really...I guess it's a matter of luck. I bought my S3 in june and after 3 replacements, I got the satisfying one.
One thing concerns me the most is the screen. It's true that it's hard to get a screen without any dead pixels considering the huge amount of pixels. well, I really hope this won't happen since if I ever find out just one single dead pixel, it would turn me off really bad even if I normally can't see it. But you know, it is there... haha
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not really...I guess it's a matter of luck. I bought my S3 in june and after 3 replacements, I got the satisfying one.
One thing concerns me the most is the screen. It's true that it's hard to get a screen without any dead pixels considering the huge amount of pixels. well, I really hope this won't happen since if I ever find out just one single dead pixel, it would turn me off really bad even if I normally can't see it. But you know, it is there... haha
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I forgot to include the legendary GS2 as another first batch flawless device. It might be about luck sometimes but generally you can deduce when it is safe to buy a first batch.
I use two methods that I feel pretty good about.
One, like I said, my GS2, tab 10.1, and GS3 were all flawless first batches for me. I realize that using just myself as a sample size is pretty shady statistically but if you look at the posts of complaints of the GS3 in May/June, they are far less than most devices.
Two, we know for a fact that Samsung is not only a manufacturer, but one of the if not the best manufacturer. Sure HTC and Apple are moving away from them, but it is not because of the quality. People trust their factories and manufacturing processes so unless the Nexus 10 uses some fancy new manufacturing process, Samsung already has the wisdom and experience and chances are, they won't need to make many changes to the manufacturing process like others might.
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It's not only about the company behind the product, it's also about math/probability.
Hint: Try counting the sub-pixels on the Galaxy 10.1 or S3 and compare to the N10.
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I'm not so sure we should expect the majority of units to have dead pixels. I deal a lot with high resolution 2560x1600 computer monitors and very rarely do I encounter dead/stuck pixels. You're right that they would be harder to notice because of the high pixel density, but I'll use pixel checker and send it back if there's an issue. Just because it's a smaller screen doesn't mathematically necessitate pixel issues. The 13in retina macbook pro has almost the same pixel density and of the few I've tested, none have any pixel issues.
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I'm not so sure we should expect the majority of units to have dead pixels. I deal a lot with high resolution 2560x1600 computer monitors and very rarely do I encounter dead/stuck pixels. You're right that they would be harder to notice because of the high pixel density, but I'll use pixel checker and send it back if there's an issue. Just because it's a smaller screen doesn't mathematically necessitate pixel issues. The 13in retina macbook pro has almost the same pixel density and of the few I've tested, none have any pixel issues.
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Are you really spending maybe 15-30 minutes (if that's enough) to check each display in a dark room with dark-adapted eyes?
I'm asking that because as an example my Nexus 7 has 1 stuck blue sub-pixel almost smack in the middle of the screen, I know where it is and I still need about 10-20 seconds in a dark room with a (mostly) black screen to find it again - in daylight it's just plainly impossible to locate it. On a Retina/N10/WQXGA display this will be even harder.
It's my personal opinion that a lot of the people posting here how their displays are perfect with zero errors just never see any of their stuck/dark sub-pixels. They're really that hard to find unless you have bad luck and get a completely broken pixel or a cluster of broken sub-pixels in close proximity.
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Are you really spending maybe 15-30 minutes (if that's enough) to check each display in a dark room with dark-adapted eyes?
I'm asking that because as an example my Nexus 7 has 1 stuck blue sub-pixel almost smack in the middle of the screen, I know where it is and I still need about 10-20 seconds in a dark room with a (mostly) black screen to find it again - in daylight it's just plainly impossible to locate it. On a Retina/N10/WQXGA display this will be even harder.
It's my personal opinion that a lot of the people posting here how their displays are perfect with zero errors just never see any of their stuck/dark sub-pixels. They're really that hard to find unless you have bad luck and get a completely broken pixel or a cluster of broken sub-pixels in close proximity.
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first thing I do is go to my closet and turn the brightness all the way up... lol I can not live with dead pixels..
rookiegenius said:
first thing I do is go to my closet and turn the brightness all the way up... lol I can not live with dead pixels..
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Whatever brings more happiness into your live ...
My personal view on sub-pixel errors is: if I have to search for them to see them ... I don't really care about them.
A full stuck/dark pixel (or anything that catches the eye) is a reason to send the device back though, no doubt about that.
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first thing I do is go to my closet and turn the brightness all the way up... lol I can not live with dead pixels..
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I thought I was a bit wierd doing this to test for Light Bleed! lol I feel slightly better now!
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first thing I do is go to my closet and turn the brightness all the way up... lol I can not live with dead pixels..
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I tend to do that anyway for light bleed... That's my worry. My Nexus 7 has pretty bad light bleed, and i'm okay with that because it's a cheap tablet, but I won't be happy if the Nexus 10 has bleed like that one. I can deal with a minor amount around the edges, but it's really annoying if it extends to the center of the screen, etc.
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With 2560x1600 x3 sub-pixels (=12.288.000 pixels) you will very likely not get a sample without a single defective sub-pixel. Doesn't really matter either, a stuck sub-pixel at 300 DPI resolution is so small that it will be hard to find even if you "know" where it is.
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Not really true. My monitor is 2560x1440 and I promise you, there are no dead pixels. Granted it's 27", and the Nexus is only 10", it may be a little harder to see, but throw up solid color backgrounds and you will probably see it.
Hi there!
I'm from the Sony Xperia S section, but I have a question.
My friend's i9300 fell out of his pocket when he was just getting in his car. Somehow, he drove over it, stopped the car on the driveway and went to see what he drove over.
The screen -- all, glass, the AMOLED screen and the digitizer -- is completely shattered, not working at all. The phone, however, seems perfect inside (also boots up and connects to the PC correctly).
Not rooted, no bootloader unlock (or whatever that's called on these sides of XDA ), nothing. He's a noob user, only made calls, SMS and occasional pictures.
So he (having lots of cash) said if I can fix it, but if not, I can keep it. We saw that a new digitizer/screen/glass combo costs around 140$, used about 130$ (take into account that this is central europe, not USA, Canada, UK or Germany -- the delivery fees from anywhere but Slovenia are 50€ for each package).
In the end, I get to keep the phone. It's a nice piece of hardware and I'd like to see how it'd do as a daily driver and to see how development is going around here (seeing as you people already have PA 3+ and other goodies). But damn, that's just too expensive for a screen (note that a Xperia S screen+digitizer+glass costs ~30$, and this one has more ppi at only 4.3").
My question to you is, how long do I have to wait for working pieces of hardware to emerge that will cost around 60$? Note that a new Galaxy S2 screen costs around 60$ and last year's first Sony flagship screen costs 30$.
I'm thinking one more year, maybe?
Thanks a lot for any help at all (PLEASE, make this a discussion thread, I want to read your opinions and speculation ),
--someone755
P.S.
Also, if my 'one year' theory turns out to be true, it'll be just in time for a replacement phone. Would you guys recommend the S3 in 2014 (or even in 2013)?
You must be thinking that I'm going mad with using a 2012 phone in 2014-15.
P.P.S.
If anyone knows where the SMS messages are stored and can tell me how to get them (IF that's even possible) off the phone without the need for a screen, that'd be great... It just seems like I at least own the SMS messages to the guy...
P.P.P.S.
The notification light is blinking in blue... Does that mean something is wrong or is it just a notification...? I figure the latter, since I heard the sounds of it booting to Android...
Also, there's this weird water-y sound effect when I press the home button. Could that be the famous lockscreen?
Sorry for being a pain, I'm just visiting to see if it's all worth it (might sell the parts if the components never get any cheaper)...
Notification blue, is just that.
Sms, you could possibly get an hdmi cable if you are sure about fixing it in the long run and you will be able to use the phone through your tv...until you wait for a screen.
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Thanks for the reply.
Well I don't feel like buying a new cable adapter every time I have a phone to fix, plus there's no way to control the screen because the digitizer is also broken.
I don't really care all that much for fixing the phone, I'd just like to hear your opinions on how long until prices go down to see if fixing is even worth it...
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Thanks for the reply.
Well I don't feel like buying a new cable adapter every time I have a phone to fix, plus there's no way to control the screen because the digitizer is also broken.
I don't really care all that much for fixing the phone, I'd just like to hear your opinions on how long until prices go down to see if fixing is even worth it...
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You can plug a mouse in too
The price sounds about right. I struggle with an Xperia screen being $30 though. What? The Screen is always the most expensive component. Digitisers / Glass is always cheap £15, £20 for most phones but screens (LCD, AMOLED etc) are always expensive.
I don't see these components coming down. There will be a need for them for years as some people will run their Galaxy for 3+ years.
In 5 years, the prices could even go up due to rarity
But if the USB port is already connected to a screen, there isn't any more place for a mouse...
For the Xperia S screen, I found you a link: http://www.etradesupply.com/oem-sony-xperia-s-lt26i-lcd-screen-and-digitizer-assembly.html So I missed it by $10...
Well I also thought about the price increase, but I'm seeing the S2 as an example... It started out at about $100 but nowadays you get one for $60...
I guess the best thing is to wait, no?
Wait only if you don't mind no supply or a price increase .
Trade that off versus your thought that its overpriced at present .
jje
Well if prices for the screen increase, thee prices for the other components should also increase, right? In that case, if prices don't fall, I can sell what's left of the phone... Right...?
Since everything is working perfectly, I don't see why not...
someone755;42934541I found you a link: [url said:
http://www.etradesupply.com/oem-sony-xperia-s-lt26i-lcd-screen-and-digitizer-assembly.html[/url] So I missed it by $10...
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Ah ok. It's an LCD screen though, not AMOLED. ...and much smaller. so it's not a fair comparison
Oh, I completely forgot about the Amoled screen...
Though isn't it more expensive to make a screen with more ppi, albeit smaller? Would be more logical (as it's harder and more complex). But then again, the way Amoled pixels are arranged is also the most complex thing ever...
Quoting GSMarena
For the S2; Super AMOLED Plus capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors | 480 x 800 pixels, 4.3 inches (~217 ppi pixel density)
And for the S3; Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors | 720 x 1280 pixels, 4.8 inches (~306 ppi pixel density)
I've also read a lot that the S2's screen wasn't as breakable as the S3's. Could that be one of the causes that the S2's screens started off way cheaper?
someone755 said:
Well if prices for the screen increase, thee prices for the other components should also increase, right?
I doubt it .
jje
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Well why not?
If the screens become rare, shouldn't that also mean that, say, vibrators would also become rare?
I've been thinking about connecting the thing to a screen and using it as a poor pc for media (movies, pics, etc.) or a small personal file server. In theory, that could work, since this still is a pretty powerful device...
Also, I've seen some Chinese sites selling fake screens and digitizers. I have yet to find a version that is compatible with the i9300... Again, would be grateful for any links
Screens are the most common things to need replacing due to accidental breakage
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For those of you who've replaced your screens either DIY or via LG warranty replacement...please post how your screen quality and viewing angles compare to the original LCD.
I'll start...
1. On my Current G2, I had a perfect screen. Perfect viewing angles and excellent image quality with no defects
2. Ebay Replacement screen #1 had dead pixels and Mira lines.
3. Ebay replacement screen # 2 had horrible color. Almost black and white
4. Amazon replacement screen has great color & image quality but lesser degree of viewing angles.
It's hard to explain but easy to compare to other G2s and phones when you compare side by side.
After all these screen swaps in the last couple months I've decided to keep this screen and use the phone as is.
How does your replacement screen compare to the original one?
I got LG performed a "total refurbished" when I dropped and shattered my screen.
It came back and looked like new, no difference to the original.
After a shattered screen i got it replaced.two months waoting time.now have jdi panel but brightness is very low and have lots of screen bleed around the edges.the repairman did not do a good job but the panel itself is of lower quality.color and contrast ok but luminosity is about 70%of the original...not happy but no money for yet another panel...
Conclusion:dont drop the phone...
After having touch screen issues on my phone (no-touch zone, ghost touches), I bought a replacement screen for my D800 off eBay.
Got it replaced and so far, the quality (colours, brightness, touch accuracy) is very good. I'd say the screen is slightly more yellow than my original screen but it's by no means an issue.
The screen I got for my "new" Z3, is full of problems. It has press marks(areas on the screen which appear brighter/whiter) and the screen "flickers" on high brightness. My friend can't see it well, but I can very clearly see the screen going bright->dark->bright->dark slightly and very quickly.
Dropped mine and got it replaced at a cheap place in Bangkok.
Colours are the same, viewing angles are not as good, but
those doesn't matter to me.
Been 2 months dropped phone again, screen shattert again...
Biggest supprise: Touch is still working perfectly! Seems like the cheap replacement screen doesn't have the NoGap technology like the original ones haha. Seems like win win to me!
laboratik said:
After a shattered screen i got it replaced.two months waoting time.now have jdi panel but brightness is very low and have lots of screen bleed around the edges.the repairman did not do a good job but the panel itself is of lower quality.color and contrast ok but luminosity is about 70%of the original...not happy but no money for yet another panel...
Conclusion:dont drop the phone...
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Thanks for the responses guys and sorry to hear about your screens.
Made a new poll. Please participate.
I'm trying to make a case that there are different versions of LCD panels made by different manufacturers.
They don't advertise which is which but we're starting to notice now that we're having out screens replaced.
I replaced my LG D800 screen with one from Amazon and the colors are slightly darker but other than that no big deal. I didn't do a good job with the replacement so there is definite light bleed on the edges and after four months of using it im getting ghost touches if I press on the lower portion of the screen. Don't think it's quite worth the $80 replacement to try again and get it right, just something I'll deal with until a new phone comes out and I can get it replaced all together.
Similar experience to laboratik except the repair was done at LG so the workmanship is good. But it is jdi panel and darker than the original.
Thank you guys for the responses. This thread should be helpful to others in our same situation.
The sad fact is that the market is flooded with aftermarket screens made by who knows.
Just compared my screen with the S6 Edge and have to say I'm very impressed with the image and color on this replacement screen however that's where the buck stops.
The reduced viewing angles are tolerable at best. I'd hate to remove this replacement screen send it back all over again...roll, dice pray I get a perfect match but unless I'm removing it from a G2 myself I'm starting to believe it's not likely it'll happen.
Check out this review on Amazon re: the screen I have.
This guy nails my current situation
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/review/..._dp_cr?cursor=3&qid=1428191059&sort=rd&sr=8-1
tiguy99 said:
For those of you who've replaced your screens either DIY or via LG warranty replacement...please post how your screen quality and viewing angles compare to the original LCD.
I'll start...
1. On my Current G2, I had a perfect screen. Perfect viewing angles and excellent image quality with no defects
2. Ebay Replacement screen #1 had dead pixels and Mira lines.
3. Ebay replacement screen # 2 had horrible color. Almost black and white
4. Amazon replacement screen has great color & image quality but lesser degree of viewing angles.
It's hard to explain but easy to compare to other G2s and phones when you compare side by side.
After all these screen swaps in the last couple months I've decided to keep this screen and use the phone as is.
How does your replacement screen compare to the original one?
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I got a few of them from eBay, I can link you the buyer if you want, I've sold them and they are close to OEM, they only have one MAJOR flaw, they are thicker. While you'd think this wouldn't be an issue, they are thick enough to not be able to slip into most cases, so it's annoying.
http://www.ebay.com/usr/wholesaleblimited?_trksid=p2053788.m1543.l2754
That's the ebay seller I use for replacement parts.
So far the screens have been OEM quality( G2, GPro, AHD) I've bought a few from there, and they all have great quality, except for the thickness, they all seem to be thicker, this is probably due to it not being real gorilla glass, and just a knock off lol.
it looks like my replacement screen for LG service center has slightly lower sunlight legibility than original,
I dont know which panel is this, but brightness is reduced
sameerm02 said:
it looks like my replacement screen for LG service center has slightly lower sunlight legibility than original,
I dont know which panel is this, but brightness is reduced
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After removing the Amazon screen and reinstalling the original one, I notice the Amazon one has slightly higher ppi/contrast with a smoother looking picture....WTH
Now if I can have that with the original screen's viewing angles I'd be golden....
Oh well....time to pack it back and return it back...will report back shortly
sjk971005 said:
After having touch screen issues on my phone (no-touch zone, ghost touches), I bought a replacement screen for my D800 off eBay.
Got it replaced and so far, the quality (colours, brightness, touch accuracy) is very good. I'd say the screen is slightly more yellow than my original screen but it's by no means an issue.
The screen I got for my "new" Z3, is full of problems. It has press marks(areas on the screen which appear brighter/whiter) and the screen "flickers" on high brightness. My friend can't see it well, but I can very clearly see the screen going bright->dark->bright->dark slightly and very quickly.
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strange, that happens to me also, totally stock phone, no replacements at all
sent from the grey stuff inside my skull
Silentwidow said:
I got a few of them from eBay, I can link you the buyer if you want, I've sold them and they are close to OEM, they only have one MAJOR flaw, they are thicker. While you'd think this wouldn't be an issue, they are thick enough to not be able to slip into most cases, so it's annoying.
That's the ebay seller I use for replacement parts.
So far the screens have been OEM quality( G2, GPro, AHD) I've bought a few from there, and they all have great quality, except for the thickness, they all seem to be thicker, this is probably due to it not being real gorilla glass, and just a knock off lol.
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I bougth several screens from that seller... but with frame... i have not noticed about the "thicker".
But, is not just knock off, my screens has knock on... I think you have to run the "update touch menu" in service menu...
Hye guys. Im sorry if im in the wrong thread. Right now im in need for lg g2 d802 lcd full assembly replacement but im in tight budget right now. I can afford max for 60 bucks. ( im still depressed about losing my job though lol ) I've found several replacement at ebay from China that is under my budget but im in doubt if it is quality enough to be acceptable to be use in this great phone? I've heard about "crazy touch" issue too so im afraid if im not lucky enough to get one of those. Anyone here have experienced with these full lcd assembly from ebay? I would like to know if all those claim are true or not.
Anyway this is one im talking about - http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/301568732266?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
kopter36 said:
Hye guys. Im sorry if im in the wrong thread. Right now im in need for lg g2 d802 lcd full assembly replacement but im in tight budget right now. I can afford max for 60 bucks. ( im still depressed about losing my job though lol ) I've found several replacement at ebay from China that is under my budget but im in doubt if it is quality enough to be acceptable to be use in this great phone? I've heard about "crazy touch" issue too so im afraid if im not lucky enough to get one of those. Anyone here have experienced with these full lcd assembly from ebay? I would like to know if all those claim are true or not.
Anyway this is one im talking about - http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/301568732266?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
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That one almost certainly looks like it will be a low quality replacement you will be unhappy with.
My personal opinion, if you want a full frame screen replacement....at least get one with the LG logo.
Saw one on ebay for 59.00 last night. The seller claimed to test them before they ship.
Http://www.ebay.com/itm/181670823997?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Not sure which model you have but make sure you confirm with the seller before you bid
i have ordered my replacement screen with frame from etradesupply.com should be reaching me in 5 days time.. Will report back. Got it for $60.
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That one almost certainly looks like it will be a low quality replacement you will be unhappy with.
My personal opinion, if you want a full frame screen replacement....at least get one with the LG logo.
Saw one on ebay for 59.00 last night. The seller claimed to test them before they ship.
Http://www.ebay.com/itm/181670823997?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Not sure which model you have but make sure you confirm with the seller before you bid
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That one looks legit to me but i need to ask the seller first. Its going to be so many question from me. Lol.
Btw my phone model is D802.
somberi said:
i have ordered my replacement screen with frame from etradesupply.com should be reaching me in 5 days time.. Will report back. Got it for $60.
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Once you got it could you reviewed it here? I might order from etradesupply .com too.
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That one looks legit to me but i need to ask the seller first. Its going to be so many question from me. Lol.
Btw my phone model is D802.
Once you got it could you reviewed it here? I might order from etradesupply .com too.
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My shipment status says expected delivery Wed, Apr 15. Hope there are no more delays. Will keep the thread posted on how the screen performs.
Does any tablet owner here of M5 or same family tablet, has noticed if one of your display has an edge or sideline that is slightly slightly darker, during using a fully white background?
On my m5 Pro I've noticed that with a fully white backgroud, I do have an edge, close to the left bottom corner (holding the tablet horizontally) that is slightly gray rather than the right side. Off course that: if I'm rotating it, then it Will happear to the top instead.
If you don't stay there and looking at it for a minute, you don't notice it. But if you look at it and compare to the rest of the screen or other side, then you'll see this small difference.
Do you have same issue? Does it is an IPS display issue?
Ah! It makes it only with the White. Only the White. Other colors comparisions are fine.
Looking videos, pictures or anything else that does not push the screen to a very high density white in that side, it's fine.
You can try to see if you're having the same of opening the cleaning chache program, where there is a lot of White all around the screen. There you can watch side by side and every corner... and you can try too see if somewhere do you have a slightly white difference compared to the rest.
But as said above. Only white make this.
Videos, pictures with same colors side to side are fine. It's all about the White.
I've contacted the Huawei assistance trough Phone and they said that is normal and panels might do this, and if in doubt, I'm free to go to the Local official technical assistance in my town to have a confirm for it .
So I've done that! I've moved to the Local technical assistance and the technician told me that it might happens and it is not worthy of a repair, because changing panel might not solve the problem as this slightly slightly brightning difference might show on another side. Has more sense to wait if in these 2 years something going worse and repair it over warranty.
It's hard to see this difference of White brightness, and I've noticed that just because I'm a really fussy guy and ... off course I don't spend my time on surfing on the menus. It's also a post to understand it these kind of IPS panels may encount these issues.
Anyone here is experiencing this thing? Or are you watching all the sides of your tablet to see if do you have it aswell? :laugh:
It's called uneven brightness, and reading notebookcheck's review said that it is above average. Seems you have received a dud, but it's likely within tolerance im afraid.
Michaelflat1 said:
It's called uneven brightness, and reading notebookcheck's review said that it is above average. Seems you have received a dud, but it's likely within tolerance im afraid.
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Are you sure It's a dud? In a FB group a guy said that he's even worse on his 8.4 because he has it all over the edges . And on a previous M3 he got, there was an even worse side with less brightness. And so He returned the tablet.
In my case, it's so soft that you don't notice it at all. You do have to search for it. And it happens only with the White.
It the technician in the store told me it's not worth a replace the panel, this slightly brightness might happpen and same issue might happen in another side, nobody knows. I wish to beleive him . Why He would had lied to me?
Anyway I've read the m5 review and they are showing the characteristic of the brightness all over the display. Yea, it is seems a trait of it, and a 0,25 cd/m2 is barely perceivable.
What's your opinion?
andreawars said:
Are you sure It's a dud? In a FB group a guy said that he's even worse on his 8.4 because he has it all over the edges . And on a previous M3 he got, there was an even worse side with less brightness. And so He returned the tablet.
In my case, it's so soft that you don't notice it at all. You do have to search for it. And it happens only with the White.
It the technician in the store told me it's not worth a replace the panel, this slightly brightness might happpen and same issue might happen in another side, nobody knows. I wish to beleive him . Why He would had lied to me?
Anyway I've read the m5 review and they are showing the characteristic of the brightness all over the display. Yea, it is seems a trait of it, and a 0,25 cd/m2 is barely perceivable.
What's your opinion?
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my M5 is perfect, no noticeable differences in brightness anywhere. Notebookcheck said that the 8 in model has poorer display anyway.
If it's not noticeable in normal use then it's fine.
Michaelflat1 said:
my M5 is perfect, no noticeable differences in brightness anywhere. Notebookcheck said that the 8 in model has poorer display anyway.
If it's not noticeable in normal use then it's fine.
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Nah...exept The White background, it's ok on all use.
But as said above, if I do watch that edge to try to catch the eye to find this difference.
Technician said it's ok. Hope it is. I just want to know if anyone experienced this with this model or any other tablet with IPS display
Michaelflat1 said:
my M5 is perfect, no noticeable differences in brightness anywhere. Notebookcheck said that the 8 in model has poorer display anyway.
If it's not noticeable in normal use then it's fine.
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Is there any reliable software for Android to do the same thing done by notebookcheck and testing the brightness? Like this:
I've checked that one on playstore, but I did not find nothing.
Any suggestion?
andreawars said:
Is there any reliable software for Android to do the same thing done by notebookcheck and testing the brightness? Like this:
I've checked that one on playstore, but I did not find nothing.
Any suggestion?
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You need something that can detect the brightness, usually expensive hardware that connects to a windows machine. I think they start at around $500 or so. You could rent one i suppose. (if you could find somewhere or someone!).
But yeah it needs hardware.
andreawars said:
Does any tablet owner here of M5 or same family tablet, has noticed if one of your display has an edge or sideline that is slightly slightly darker, during using a fully white background?
On my m5 Pro I've noticed that with a fully white backgroud, I do have an edge, close to the left bottom corner (holding the tablet horizontally) that is slightly gray rather than the right side. Off course that: if I'm rotating it, then it Will happear to the top instead.
If you don't stay there and looking at it for a minute, you don't notice it. But if you look at it and compare to the rest of the screen or other side, then you'll see this small difference.
Do you have same issue? Does it is an IPS display issue?
Ah! It makes it only with the White. Only the White. Other colors comparisions are fine.
Looking videos, pictures or anything else that does not push the screen to a very high density white in that side, it's fine.
You can try to see if you're having the same of opening the cleaning chache program, where there is a lot of White all around the screen. There you can watch side by side and every corner... and you can try too see if somewhere do you have a slightly white difference compared to the rest.
But as said above. Only white make this.
Videos, pictures with same colors side to side are fine. It's all about the White.
I've contacted the Huawei assistance trough Phone and they said that is normal and panels might do this, and if in doubt, I'm free to go to the Local official technical assistance in my town to have a confirm for it .
So I've done that! I've moved to the Local technical assistance and the technician told me that it might happens and it is not worthy of a repair, because changing panel might not solve the problem as this slightly slightly brightning difference might show on another side. Has more sense to wait if in these 2 years something going worse and repair it over warranty.
It's hard to see this difference of White brightness, and I've noticed that just because I'm a really fussy guy and ... off course I don't spend my time on surfing on the menus. It's also a post to understand it these kind of IPS panels may encount these issues.
Anyone here is experiencing this thing? Or are you watching all the sides of your tablet to see if do you have it aswell? :laugh:
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What did you decide? I have one side that is darker or M5 10.8, not a pro version.
Should I try to replace it? It does not bother me much and I read here that there are more units, that come with more darker sides/edges.
kaimyns said:
What did you decide? I have one side that is darker or M5 10.8, not a pro version.
Should I try to replace it? It does not bother me much and I read here that there are more units, that come with more darker sides/edges.
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The problem for me it's just a little and not worth a change for defect.
Because a repairing stores told me that quite always somewhere that little little darker side happear. It's not guarranteed that with a replacement it would not happear elsewhere. It's happening only with the White. Normal use the tablet is fine.
It's an issue of the IPS display, expecially large displays. That's Why i love the AMOLED all the way.
Technician said it's not for a change/repair, exept if it is gonna go worse.
So I'll keep it. Does your problem is so noticeable?
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The problem for me it's just a little and not worth a change for defect.
Because a repairing stores told me that quite always somewhere that little little darker side happear. It's not guarranteed that with a replacement it would not happear elsewhere. It's happening only with the White. Normal use the tablet is fine.
It's an issue of the IPS display, expecially large displays. That's Why i love the AMOLED all the way.
Technician said it's not for a change/repair, exept if it is gonna go worse.
So I'll keep it. Does your problem is so noticeable?
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It is, the whole left side is darker, so I contacted for replacement. Amazon was very helpful and the replacement is coming to me. Hope that unit will be be without darker sides.
Thanks for help.
kaimyns said:
It is, the whole left side is darker, so I contacted for replacement. Amazon was very helpful and the replacement is coming to me. Hope that unit will be be without darker sides.
Thanks for help.
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Did you had this issues also with other colors? If you were watching a movie or working on a picture was noticeable?
For me it's only the White, but you do have to look for it. It's same issues that have low/mid ranged TVs.
Not worth a change or a repair. Because it can ne elsewhere.
Does it is the same for you?
Keep us updated.
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Did you had this issues also with other colors? If you were watching a movie or working on a picture was noticeable?
For me it's only the White, but you do have to look for it. It's same issues that have low/mid ranged TVs.
Not worth a change or a repair. Because it can ne elsewhere.
Does it is the same for you?
Keep us updated.
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Yes, there was also a problem with other brighter colors. It was noticable only when browsing, but that's mainly what I do with a tablet. After a while I started searching for that darker side in various apps/colors, instead of enjoying a tablet.
Today I got a replacement. The screen looks more or less fine on the sides/edges both with white and other colors.
my m5 pro 10.8 is perfectly in balance.
iv´e tested with a white fullscreen wallpaper on max. brightness. everything is ok.
also other colors are fine.
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every M5 screen has it. I had 3 pieces, each one had a near the status bar (battery, hour) visible only at a sharp angle. If you do not see it, you look at it badly. I stayed with the first copy. These two still had dead pixels. This is the construction of ips.
yeah i have no issues on mine, full brightness and looking from sharp angles doesn't make much difference at all. Slight brightness changes maybe, but same happens to any screen.