http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...every-car-through-updated-app-on-smartphones/
Looks like it may run on LP ROMs. Didn't tried yet.
That looks really interesting. Might be the reason I've been waiting for to upgrade to 5.1
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http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...every-car-through-updated-app-on-smartphones/
Looks like it may run on LP ROMs. Didn't tried yet.
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Not installing on my LP unit running @dsa8310 October ROM. Starts the installation and after a few seconds - App not installed. At first I thought it's location-based but installed OK on my Samsung phone (Marshmallow)
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Not installing on my LP unit running @dsa8310 October ROM. Starts the installation and after a few seconds - App not installed. At first I thought it's location-based but installed OK on my Samsung phone (Marshmallow)
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i think you installed the arm64 version. You need the arm version. Mine is working. Make sure you installed the google app and google play music app before installing. Normally android auto is installing this in its installation, but than it goes in a loop (in mine case). So install them first.
For the rest android auto is slow, because it's using google maps, which is slow in the android 5.1 version. Spotify is working fine btw.
I'm working for a MAnufacture which produces HU for cars. Right now there is a native Android System for cars in discussion.
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http://www.computerworld.com/articl...auto-making-your-car-a-big-mobile-device.html
I installed this on my Joying RK3188 running the latest Malaysk 5.1.1 ROM. Unfortunately, the ROM itself is so slow, Android Auto is almost unusuable. It does work, mind you, but the ROM seems to be the problem. Anyone know any bare-bones 5.1.1 ROMs that run quick? Thanks.
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I installed this on my Joying RK3188 running the latest Malaysk 5.1.1 ROM. Unfortunately, the ROM itself is so slow, Android Auto is almost unusuable. It does work, mind you, but the ROM seems to be the problem. Anyone know any bare-bones 5.1.1 ROMs that run quick? Thanks.
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try DSA room, its best 5.1 rom I used
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I installed this on my Joying RK3188 running the latest Malaysk 5.1.1 ROM. Unfortunately, the ROM itself is so slow, Android Auto is almost unusuable. It does work, mind you, but the ROM seems to be the problem. Anyone know any bare-bones 5.1.1 ROMs that run quick? Thanks.
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It's not exactly the ROM. It's the combination Google Maps + Google Now + Android Auto. I tried it on a clean ROM with only root and pretty much everything removed and it's unusable.
I also noticed that a 5.1 ROM will run OK as long as you only have either Google Maps or Google Now. When you have both it's barely working.
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It's not exactly the ROM. It's the combination Google Maps + Google Now + Android Auto. I tried it on a clean ROM with only root and pretty much everything removed and it's unusable.
I also noticed that a 5.1 ROM will run OK as long as you only have either Google Maps or Google Now. When you have both it's barely working.
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Don't know if it is only RAM related. These units have very poor CPU profile - throttling. stepup clock control settings which use highest clock only rarely so most of the time CPU is running slow so many processes suffer especially when multiple apps are running in background.
I'm not using 5.1 ROM (as I see still issues and people complaining) so I cannot test if and what apps mix causes issues.
You may try some kernel tools for testing different governors, CPU throttling (yes I would try also thermal throttling if you want to be on the safe side as rumours are Chinese used above mentioned downclocked setup in order to save CPU from overheating as there is no heat sink).
It would be interesting to open new thread for this. Much improvements may be achieved only by tuning kernel. And that needs some experimenting and practising.
Also, regarding 5.1 it is well known that it is 'heavy' and one of the main points of 6 (MM) was to reduce resource usage. So instead jumping to LP and having resource issues, I'll wait to see if there will be progress on MM which may resolve much of the problems around.
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Don't know if it is only RAM related. These units have very poor CPU profile - throttling. stepup clock control settings which use highest clock only rarely so most of the time CPU is running slow so many processes suffer especially when multiple apps are running in background.
I'm not using 5.1 ROM (as I see still issues and people complaining) so I cannot test if and what apps mix causes issues.
You may try some kernel tools for testing different governors, CPU throttling (yes I would try also thermal throttling if you want to be on the safe side as rumours are Chinese used above mentioned downclocked setup in order to save CPU from overheating as there is no heat sink).
It would be interesting to open new thread for this. Much improvements may be achieved only by tuning kernel. And that needs some experimenting and practising.
Also, regarding 5.1 it is well known that it is 'heavy' and one of the main points of 6 (MM) was to reduce resource usage. So instead jumping to LP and having resource issues, I'll wait to see if there will be progress on MM which may resolve much of the problems around.
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I agree. From monitoring resource usage under 5.1 I have to say that while RAM usage will rarely go over 700 MB CPU is aggressively downclocked. However, I need to first add a heatsink and then play with governors.
However, not sure how much would that really help with Android Auto, it's so damn slow it takes like 20 seconds just to start
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I agree. From monitoring resource usage under 5.1 I have to say that while RAM usage will rarely go over 700 MB CPU is aggressively downclocked. However, I need to first add a heatsink and then play with governors.
However, not sure how much would that really help with Android Auto, it's so damn slow it takes like 20 seconds just to start
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Heatsink issue is to be investigated also. For instance many phones do not have heatsinks and still endure very heavy usage. So it may be not necessary. For instance, thermal throttling may be sufficient.
Thus, both governor and thermal control should be investigated. I believe it is possible with little effort to tune these units to work very nicely without much hw poking.
SW in these units is just so bad and poor it is almost unbelievable! Beside designers didn't have basic knowledge on architecture, they even 'tuned' many things in just opposite of what is needed. They could have better situation if only leaves everything by default in AOSP
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I've had this tablet since the big sale in the winter, using it mostly for gaming (FIFA 16 mobile with those graphics tho) and reading PDFs. Never got around to rooting and ROMing because of school. I've experienced the usual minor frustrations: heat/throttling (sometimes a big deal while playing FIFA), screen redraw lags, etc.
So what modifications should I do to bring out the best performance, for gaming and for just general usage? :good:
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I've had this tablet since the big sale in the winter, using it mostly for gaming (FIFA 16 mobile with those graphics tho) and reading PDFs. Never got around to rooting and ROMing because of school. I've experienced the usual minor frustrations: heat/throttling (sometimes a big deal while playing FIFA), screen redraw lags, etc.
So what modifications should I do to bring out the best performance, for gaming and for just general usage? :good:
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I used the skipsoft program to unlock my bootloader, remove the encryption, install Super SU root, and install TWRP recovery. Then I downloaded and installed the latest Pure Nexus (CMTE) and fire and ice kernel. I haven't tried any other ROMs. I also bought mine during the winter sale. Stock Nexus 9 is unbearable. Rooted and ROMed these things fly! Been on my tablet for almost 2 hours during internet. Haven't had any lag or any noticeable rise in temperature.
Using AICP with NaHCO₃ kernel. AICP is based off of cm but adds a lot of features like slim/omni-recents, adaway, and more customizations. With NaHCO₃ you can disable zram and enable ksm, which makes 2 GB of ram barely noticable(it got a better antutu ram score than the s6). It also has a lot of governors, I/O schedulers, and TCP congestion algorithms. (you can change all of this with kernel auditor)
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I used the skipsoft program to unlock my bootloader, remove the encryption, install Super SU root, and install TWRP recovery. Then I downloaded and installed the latest Pure Nexus (CMTE) and fire and ice kernel. I haven't tried any other ROMs. I also bought mine during the winter sale. Stock Nexus 9 is unbearable. Rooted and ROMed these things fly! Been on my tablet for almost 2 hours during internet. Haven't had any lag or any noticeable rise in temperature.
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Hmm... I usually prefer to avoid all-in-one programs and do things manually to get familiar with all the steps, although this program does seem like it would save me a lot of time haha. Speaking of encryption, I've read most people don't see much difference after removing, do you agree?
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Hmm... I usually prefer to avoid all-in-one programs and do things manually to get familiar with all the steps, although this program does seem like it would save me a lot of time haha. Speaking of encryption, I've read most people don't see much difference after removing, do you agree?
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Didn't notice too much of a difference. Mainly because I did everything at once. Went from stock to completely ROMed. I do have to say that the difference between the two is like night and day. The skipsoft program also allows you to manually install steps. I used to do things completely manually, but can't anymore. Newborn in the house make it hard to concentrate on steps.
I'm on latest stock and fire-ice kernel! ?
latest DU Official and Fire-Ice
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Using AICP with NaHCO₃ kernel. AICP is based off of cm but adds a lot of features like slim/omni-recents, adaway, and more customizations. With NaHCO₃ you can disable zram and enable ksm, which makes 2 GB of ram barely noticable(it got a better antutu ram score than the s6). It also has a lot of governors, I/O schedulers, and TCP congestion algorithms. (you can change all of this with kernel auditor)
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I use AICP on my phone and its great, but ran like sludge on my OG nexus 7 (relatively speaking for that thing, CM and stock were faster). How does it run on the 9?
fyarf said:
I use AICP on my phone and its great, but ran like sludge on my OG nexus 7 (relatively speaking for that thing, CM and stock were faster). How does it run on the 9?
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So I actually ended up using AICP (tried Dirty Unicorns first but couldn't get it to boot because of an encryption issue that has since been fixed in the ROM) and it runs fine. As you guys have mentioned, significantly smoother than stock. It's the difference between unusable and usable for leisurely browsing. Haven't really bothered with the customization options yet, and the weather clock that I wanted to use doesn't work, but all in all not sludgy at all. :good:
Hello, I flashed LineageOS to my Honor 5X, but my RAM is bad.... Phone is really lagging beacause of that. In settings it says average using RAM is 96%... On my old phone with 2GB RAM too, it was about 70 - 80%. Android takes about 40 - 55% of ram as it says in my settings, is that not too much? And sometimes apps like Messenger, Chrome etc. are closing by themself. I dont use smart cleaner or something like that. Do you know the solution? How do I free my RAM? If LineageOS is that bad optimized, what best optimized ROM do you recommend me? I dont need Nougat, it can be MM too. Is CM 13 or RR or Cosmic OS good?
You have a wild runner there, check RAM usage by apps. If you're using one of those big GAPPS packages, reflash and use small GAPPS package and install other google apps as user apps.
My device is on Lineage + nano GAPPS, doesn't move above 1.2-1.4GB RAM no matter what.
Do you have the latest version of Lineage? What score in AnTuTu did you have?
Yes, latest one from a week ago, and no I haven't tested anything in antutu, benchmark numbers really mean nothing within this device class.
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Do you have the latest version of Lineage? What score in AnTuTu did you have?
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well those scores are nothing more than dancing. I hope you already heard of Chainfire here. He himself said, its amusing to sit back and see numbers on the screen doing nothing. Real world conditions are different than those numbers.
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well those scores are nothing more than dancing. I hope you already heard of Chainfire here. He himself said, its amusing to sit back and see numbers on the screen doing nothing. Real world conditions are different than those numbers.
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He couldn't be more right. My previous device could pull up to 35k on Antutu, but compared to 5x, even on EMUI, was sluggish. I don't know how much this one can pull, and I don't care, as long as it works well with Lineage I'm happy.
So much the phone pullout on nougat ?
Is it just me, or does the phone use a lot of RAM? Mine seems to be using 2.7GB minimum at all times. Seems high.
Higher would be more ideal. The Windows mindset of "I'm running out of RAM!" doesn't get you anywhere here; in Android, empty RAM is wasted RAM. My Droid Turbo averages ~1.8gb used of 3gb. Seems Nougat tries to average 60%-70% usage.
When you switch out of an app, it's moved to the background and (usually) suspended, but kept in memory so you can switch back to it quickly. It's things like this that take up memory you think should be "free".
In the event that you need to load up a big app, stuff running in the background is quickly and gracefully unloaded.
Unless you're getting constant foreground app crashes - which might indicate that something is forcefully keeping itself loaded and starving everything else of needed memory - you shouldn't worry about it. Android is fairly good at handling memory these days.
Septfox said:
Higher would be more ideal. The Windows mindset of "I'm running out of RAM!" doesn't get you anywhere here; in Android, empty RAM is wasted RAM. My Droid Turbo averages ~1.8gb used of 3gb. Seems Nougat tries to average 60%-70% usage.
When you switch out of an app, it's moved to the background and (usually) suspended, but kept in memory so you can switch back to it quickly. It's things like this that take up memory you think should be "free".
In the event that you need to load up a big app, stuff running in the background is quickly and gracefully unloaded.
Unless you're getting constant foreground app crashes - which might indicate that something is forcefully keeping itself loaded and starving everything else of needed memory - you shouldn't worry about it. Android is fairly good at handling memory these days.
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I notice this issue more on custom ROMs than stock firmware. On mine and my wife's Quarks (3GB RAM, as you well know), running Marshmallow and Lollipop versions of the same ROM, something causes the phones to just freeze up for about a minute, crashes, then RAM is released to use. It was happening at least once a day on my phone, then my wife said it was happening to her phone. (Our old phones, not the new LG V30 phones.) I've messed with the LMK settings, trying different combinations, to no avail. And I did report it in the Nougat ROM thread for that phone. (Marshmallow ROM thread no longer has support.)
So, while I totally agree with your answer, it is the technically correct answer, I do understand the OP's concern. I've gotten to the point where I like to see more free RAM, so I know my phone isn't about to freeze up. At least on my old phone.
I love custom ROMs, but the past couple of weeks it's been nice to run stock on my new LG V30 and have a very fluid experience. I've not disabled anything. I saw some others disable stuff and then got lagging. I've not touched a thing and my phone is very smooth.
Could a "theme" downloaded from play store take up a lot of RAM and/or slow things down, too?
This is my first experience with a theme.
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Could a "theme" downloaded from play store take up a lot of RAM and/or slow things down, too?
This is my first experience with a theme.
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Possibly, but probably not. From what I've seen, LG themes seem to skin far less than say, substratum does, and even substratum is pretty lightweight unless you get into transparent themes.
Keep in mind the default theme is itself...well, a theme. You're not really saving anything by staying on it. If you see a skin you like, use it, if you're really worried use one of the LG-provided ones that come with the phone.
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I notice this issue more on custom ROMs than stock firmware. On mine and my wife's Quarks (3GB RAM, as you well know), running Marshmallow and Lollipop versions of the same ROM, something causes the phones to just freeze up for about a minute, crashes, then RAM is released to use. It was happening at least once a day on my phone, then my wife said it was happening to her phone. (Our old phones, not the new LG V30 phones.) I've messed with the LMK settings, trying different combinations, to no avail. And I did report it in the Nougat ROM thread for that phone. (Marshmallow ROM thread no longer has support.)
So, while I totally agree with your answer, it is the technically correct answer, I do understand the OP's concern. I've gotten to the point where I like to see more free RAM, so I know my phone isn't about to freeze up. At least on my old phone.
I love custom ROMs, but the past couple of weeks it's been nice to run stock on my new LG V30 and have a very fluid experience. I've not disabled anything. I saw some others disable stuff and then got lagging. I've not touched a thing and my phone is very smooth.
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Interesting. It does seem like stock ROMs tend to be more conservative with RAM usage, whereas custom ROMs will have less aggressive minfree settings in order to keep more stuff loaded up. "Unused RAM is wasted RAM", but only up to a certain point; in my experience (Maserati with its ancient kernel as well as Quark) approaching ~100mb of free memory in LP/MM/N can bring things to a crawl, and pushing it can cause a kernel panic :good:
The only issue I've seen in Quark RR has been with the Pixiv app, though, and it does exactly what you said. But...I'm fairly certain the app itself leaks memory, as it only happens after browsing a while and is perfectly fine for another stretch after it OOMs and restarts.
My experience with stock ROMs in the past - Quark included - has been "smooth but lacking in features/customization" --- I've never really understood the complaints that stock is slow and claims that custom is blazing fast in comparison. The OEM has a decided advantage in that they have all the tools they need to compile the ROM properly, with then-current driver and kernel sources and a deep understanding of the hardware...I'd be really surprised to find a stock ROM from the last few years to be slower than custom.
But to be honest, my sample size is pretty small. *shrugs* I stick by what I've said, though, if anything the V30 doesn't use its memory enough; some people have complained about apps popping out of memory sooner than expected. LG is still putting out updates too, if a memory-management problem is found, hopefully they'll get right on fixing it.
Hi guys,
I've got 2x 32GB Note 4's in the family and I want to take the unofficial jump from 7.0 (MIUI 11) to one of the very many, current, custom ROM's posted here...
My question is which one? There are loads
Stability is my primary concern - not that fussed about all the 'whistles and bells,' just stability.
Thanks.
Pixel Experience Plus Edition.
It is well maintained, updated and STABLE.
https://download.pixelexperience.org/mido
I use Servicely and Naptime from the Play Store to reduce battery usage when on standby.
Ideally you can also underclock the kernel using FK Manager, our phone runs normal stock at around 2000mhz when at max speed but I underclocked to 1400mhz and haven't had any slowdowns or stuttering.
If I do play a game, I use stock speeds or set a gaming profile.
9.0 lineage (official but support ended)
10.0 atom rom
jason88fr said:
Pixel Experience Plus Edition.
It is well maintained, updated and STABLE.
I use Servicely and Naptime from the Play Store to reduce battery usage when on standby.
Ideally you can also underclock the kernel using FK Manager, our phone runs normal stock at around 2000mhz when at max speed but I underclocked to 1400mhz and haven't had any slowdowns or stuttering.
If I do play a game, I use stock speeds or set a gaming profile.
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I want to try PE out, bUt is there any fix for goodix FP?
Thanks people! Are there any guides going for how to flash a non-gen ROM? I see a lot of mentions of "Wipe System, Data, Dalvik, Cache" . Then having to manually install GApps/Magisk etc.
Thanks.
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I want to try PE out, bUt is there any fix for goodix FP?
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You're in luck, Goodix FP has been fixed for some time now on PE+
There are too many roms right now!
Which is better right now?
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There are too many roms right now!
Which is better right now?
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Just pick one that is often updated so you are not too far back on security updates. Other than that all AOSP based roms are kind of the same with some minor differences in built in customization.
I recently went from a oneplus 5 to the nord 200 when I switched to t-mobile because of the free promotion. Before I got it I did a little bit of research on the processor and storage speed and didn't expect much of a difference in performance because the snapdragon 480 seems to be fairly powerful and the nord has the same UFS 2.1 storage as my old phone.
I was pretty disappointed to find in my use the phone about 1/2 the time the phone was pretty sluggish in the general user experience and app launch times were significantly longer. May be placebo, but I disabled digital wellbeing, and all the tmobile bloatware and it may have helped a little. I remember reading oneplus heavily throttled some of their phones in recent history. I may switch back to my old phone.
I know the device is relatively new, do you guys think it will get better with software updates or is this just how it is?
I found turning on "Mobile data always active" in the developer options massively improved performance in my apps (at least where online load times and download speeds in-game were concerned)
Did you just get your phone recently? After setting up this phone for the first time, I also noticed the device was extremely slow, with all the app and software updates happening in the background. After all the updates were installed, I turned the phone off for about a day, and performance went to normal. It's not as fast as a flagship and there are minor hiccups here and there, but that's about what I expected from a 400 series SoC.
My original report was the day after I set everything up, I disabled the permissions for the launcher which did improve the responsiveness of the launcher, but application performance and launch times are still slow compared to my old device and not what I would expect from a phone of this spec.
I'm pretty confident this phone is a victim of oneplus' recently reported throttling for battery life. I was curious and compared geekbench scores (which aren't throttled under oneplus' list) and both the nord and my oneplus 5 got fairly similar scores for both cpu and compute. I tried out a browser benchmark motionmark which benches graphics performance. The nord got a 25 and the oneplus 5 got a 189... I ran the test again to make sure but got similar results.
That graphics should be coming from gpu and not cpu though....
I tested cpu and compute on geekbench, compute is a measure of gpu performance. The nord scored a little higher than the 5 in that.
I would assume oneplus' throttling would effect cpu and gpu but even if not, my oneplus 5 scoring almost 8x as high does not seem anywhere near normal
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I recently went from a oneplus 5 to the nord 200 when I switched to t-mobile because of the free promotion. Before I got it I did a little bit of research on the processor and storage speed and didn't expect much of a difference in performance because the snapdragon 480 seems to be fairly powerful and the nord has the same UFS 2.1 storage as my old phone.
I was pretty disappointed to find in my use the phone about 1/2 the time the phone was pretty sluggish in the general user experience and app launch times were significantly longer. May be placebo, but I disabled digital wellbeing, and all the tmobile bloatware and it may have helped a little. I remember reading oneplus heavily throttled some of their phones in recent history. I may switch back to my old phone.
I know the device is relatively new, do you guys think it will get better with software updates or is this just how it is?
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Same experience here, i picked up this phone expecting at least a decent experience but still get bad slow not usable for everyday tasks sometimes.
Im not expecting a flagship performance of course but this is far from decent in my experience.
I hope android 12 will solve many performance issues. Or custom fw
I'm about to throw away this phone into trash. Did not expect so weak dev community activity. The laggy interface is almost unusable if you constantly swap between apps and find them unloaded from RAM. All my text or uploaded content just disappear. It is very frustrating experience. I never had this behaviour with my 2/32 gb xiaomi.
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I'm about to throw away this phone into trash. The laggy interface is almost unusable if you constantly swap between apps and find them unloaded from RAM. All my text or uploaded content just disappear. It is very frustrating experience. I never had this behaviour with my 2/32 gb xiaomi.
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If you're really at your wit's end, have you considered installing a GSI? I've tried Phh's AOSP w/ gapps, and once you register your device with Google, it works flawlessly (except safetynet/drm) and is a million times faster than stock. Or I'd be more than happy to take your device off your hands.
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Did not expect so weak dev community activity.
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You know, custom ROMs don't just appear out of thin air. Someone has to take the time to bring up a device and make it stable, and it's not an easy task. I would say to be patient and just accept the fact that there's no guarantee that this device will get custom ROMs.
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If you're really at your wit's end, have you considered installing a GSI? I've tried Phh's AOSP w/ gapps, and once you register your device with Google, it works flawlessly (except safetynet/drm) and is a million times faster than stock. Or I'd be more than happy to take your device off your hands.
You know, custom ROMs don't just appear out of thin air. Someone has to take the time to bring up a device and make it stable, and it's not an easy task. I would say to be patient and just accept the fact that there's no guarantee that this device will get custom ROMs.
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Any disadvantages with gsi besides safety net drm? Want to try gsi but this is new to me
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Any disadvantages with gsi besides safety net drm? Want to try gsi but this is new to me
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Other than pictures from the camera being degraded compared to stock and having to install apps from the Play Store/changing a few settings in the Settings app, everything seems to work fine