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http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...every-car-through-updated-app-on-smartphones/
Looks like it may run on LP ROMs. Didn't tried yet.
That looks really interesting. Might be the reason I've been waiting for to upgrade to 5.1
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pa.ko said:
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...every-car-through-updated-app-on-smartphones/
Looks like it may run on LP ROMs. Didn't tried yet.
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Not installing on my LP unit running @dsa8310 October ROM. Starts the installation and after a few seconds - App not installed. At first I thought it's location-based but installed OK on my Samsung phone (Marshmallow)
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Not installing on my LP unit running @dsa8310 October ROM. Starts the installation and after a few seconds - App not installed. At first I thought it's location-based but installed OK on my Samsung phone (Marshmallow)
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i think you installed the arm64 version. You need the arm version. Mine is working. Make sure you installed the google app and google play music app before installing. Normally android auto is installing this in its installation, but than it goes in a loop (in mine case). So install them first.
For the rest android auto is slow, because it's using google maps, which is slow in the android 5.1 version. Spotify is working fine btw.
I'm working for a MAnufacture which produces HU for cars. Right now there is a native Android System for cars in discussion.
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http://www.computerworld.com/articl...auto-making-your-car-a-big-mobile-device.html
I installed this on my Joying RK3188 running the latest Malaysk 5.1.1 ROM. Unfortunately, the ROM itself is so slow, Android Auto is almost unusuable. It does work, mind you, but the ROM seems to be the problem. Anyone know any bare-bones 5.1.1 ROMs that run quick? Thanks.
dcdttu said:
I installed this on my Joying RK3188 running the latest Malaysk 5.1.1 ROM. Unfortunately, the ROM itself is so slow, Android Auto is almost unusuable. It does work, mind you, but the ROM seems to be the problem. Anyone know any bare-bones 5.1.1 ROMs that run quick? Thanks.
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try DSA room, its best 5.1 rom I used
dcdttu said:
I installed this on my Joying RK3188 running the latest Malaysk 5.1.1 ROM. Unfortunately, the ROM itself is so slow, Android Auto is almost unusuable. It does work, mind you, but the ROM seems to be the problem. Anyone know any bare-bones 5.1.1 ROMs that run quick? Thanks.
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It's not exactly the ROM. It's the combination Google Maps + Google Now + Android Auto. I tried it on a clean ROM with only root and pretty much everything removed and it's unusable.
I also noticed that a 5.1 ROM will run OK as long as you only have either Google Maps or Google Now. When you have both it's barely working.
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It's not exactly the ROM. It's the combination Google Maps + Google Now + Android Auto. I tried it on a clean ROM with only root and pretty much everything removed and it's unusable.
I also noticed that a 5.1 ROM will run OK as long as you only have either Google Maps or Google Now. When you have both it's barely working.
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Don't know if it is only RAM related. These units have very poor CPU profile - throttling. stepup clock control settings which use highest clock only rarely so most of the time CPU is running slow so many processes suffer especially when multiple apps are running in background.
I'm not using 5.1 ROM (as I see still issues and people complaining) so I cannot test if and what apps mix causes issues.
You may try some kernel tools for testing different governors, CPU throttling (yes I would try also thermal throttling if you want to be on the safe side as rumours are Chinese used above mentioned downclocked setup in order to save CPU from overheating as there is no heat sink).
It would be interesting to open new thread for this. Much improvements may be achieved only by tuning kernel. And that needs some experimenting and practising.
Also, regarding 5.1 it is well known that it is 'heavy' and one of the main points of 6 (MM) was to reduce resource usage. So instead jumping to LP and having resource issues, I'll wait to see if there will be progress on MM which may resolve much of the problems around.
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Don't know if it is only RAM related. These units have very poor CPU profile - throttling. stepup clock control settings which use highest clock only rarely so most of the time CPU is running slow so many processes suffer especially when multiple apps are running in background.
I'm not using 5.1 ROM (as I see still issues and people complaining) so I cannot test if and what apps mix causes issues.
You may try some kernel tools for testing different governors, CPU throttling (yes I would try also thermal throttling if you want to be on the safe side as rumours are Chinese used above mentioned downclocked setup in order to save CPU from overheating as there is no heat sink).
It would be interesting to open new thread for this. Much improvements may be achieved only by tuning kernel. And that needs some experimenting and practising.
Also, regarding 5.1 it is well known that it is 'heavy' and one of the main points of 6 (MM) was to reduce resource usage. So instead jumping to LP and having resource issues, I'll wait to see if there will be progress on MM which may resolve much of the problems around.
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I agree. From monitoring resource usage under 5.1 I have to say that while RAM usage will rarely go over 700 MB CPU is aggressively downclocked. However, I need to first add a heatsink and then play with governors.
However, not sure how much would that really help with Android Auto, it's so damn slow it takes like 20 seconds just to start
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I agree. From monitoring resource usage under 5.1 I have to say that while RAM usage will rarely go over 700 MB CPU is aggressively downclocked. However, I need to first add a heatsink and then play with governors.
However, not sure how much would that really help with Android Auto, it's so damn slow it takes like 20 seconds just to start
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Heatsink issue is to be investigated also. For instance many phones do not have heatsinks and still endure very heavy usage. So it may be not necessary. For instance, thermal throttling may be sufficient.
Thus, both governor and thermal control should be investigated. I believe it is possible with little effort to tune these units to work very nicely without much hw poking.
SW in these units is just so bad and poor it is almost unbelievable! Beside designers didn't have basic knowledge on architecture, they even 'tuned' many things in just opposite of what is needed. They could have better situation if only leaves everything by default in AOSP
Hey all!
I'm very curious. My Honor 5X is unbelievably slow (read: laggy) despite having 2 gigs of RAM and the Snapdragon 616 - which is an octacore chip for God's sake.
I can't even explain how terrible the experience is. Sometimes I can't even pick up calls. Opening system apps like Dialer, contacts etc takes 6-8 seconds - YES, SECONDS - on average. This has been since Day 1.
I attributed the lag to buggy software (Huawei's official ROM) and switched to Lineage OS 14.1 but damn there has been absolutely no improvement.
Many people suggested clearing the cache, removing unused apps (the age old advice for android users) when the phone gets slow but I don't have more than 25 apps (which is restraint on my part), I make sure there's no clutter, wipe the caches regularly but still nothing.
I started blaming the Snapdragon 616 for this when switching to LineageOS didn't work. Didn't let anyone I know buy a phone with Snapdragon's 600 line of SoCs but it just doesn't make sense. My friend's Moto G4 has the Snapdragon 617 and it works fine. Even the Moto Z Play has the Snapdragon 625 and its one of good mid rangers on the market!
Need your opinions on what the problem could be.
Also if anyone here has the Huawei Honor 5X, how has your experience been with this absolute **** excuse for a phone?
I'm on LineageOS 14.1 latest nightly and opening the dialer takes probably 1 or 2 seconds max.
It really feels like your phone has a hardware problem if wiping everything doesn't make it better.
The phone is pretty snappy in day to day use for me, not fast like a Pixel or a OP5 but still pretty damn fast.
I don't have much apps in the background either.
Consider using your warranty to see if the phone is not defective.
I have it and often switch roms. I experience lags but not as severe as yours.
EMUI is laggy, but custom roms works good with this device. Fluid enough as a daily driver. May be your hardware is getting somewhat inefficient. 5x is my first and last buy from huwaei.
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Hey all!
I'm very curious. My Honor 5X is unbelievably slow (read: laggy) despite having 2 gigs of RAM and the Snapdragon 616 - which is an octacore chip for God's sake.
I can't even explain how terrible the experience is. Sometimes I can't even pick up calls. Opening system apps like Dialer, contacts etc takes 6-8 seconds - YES, SECONDS - on average. This has been since Day 1.
I attributed the lag to buggy software (Huawei's official ROM) and switched to Lineage OS 14.1 but damn there has been absolutely no improvement.
Many people suggested clearing the cache, removing unused apps (the age old advice for android users) when the phone gets slow but I don't have more than 25 apps (which is restraint on my part), I make sure there's no clutter, wipe the caches regularly but still nothing.
I started blaming the Snapdragon 616 for this when switching to LineageOS didn't work. Didn't let anyone I know buy a phone with Snapdragon's 600 line of SoCs but it just doesn't make sense. My friend's Moto G4 has the Snapdragon 617 and it works fine. Even the Moto Z Play has the Snapdragon 625 and its one of good mid rangers on the market!
Need your opinions on what the problem could be.
Also if anyone here has the Huawei Honor 5X, how has your experience been with this absolute **** excuse for a phone?
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try checking developer options and check animation speed and transition speed..see if that is the problem
Abhaypraseeth said:
try checking developer options and check animation speed and transition speed..see if that is the problem
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Default setting of that is 1x. There should be no problems with that.
The 617 and 625 are more superior to 616. However, try to factory reset, if it's still the same, ask for a replacement immediately if you have warranty.
try to flash the stock rom again clearing all data and everything.. then flash a custom rom..
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try to flash the stock rom again clearing all data and everything.. then flash a custom rom..
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I believe clearing data is enough. No need to flash stock again.
Have you tried slim rom, aokp or other. Can give a try
usmanshahid said:
Hey all!
I'm very curious. My Honor 5X is unbelievably slow (read: laggy) despite having 2 gigs of RAM and the Snapdragon 616 - which is an octacore chip for God's sake.
I can't even explain how terrible the experience is. Sometimes I can't even pick up calls. Opening system apps like Dialer, contacts etc takes 6-8 seconds - YES, SECONDS - on average. This has been since Day 1.
I attributed the lag to buggy software (Huawei's official ROM) and switched to Lineage OS 14.1 but damn there has been absolutely no improvement.
Many people suggested clearing the cache, removing unused apps (the age old advice for android users) when the phone gets slow but I don't have more than 25 apps (which is restraint on my part), I make sure there's no clutter, wipe the caches regularly but still nothing.
I started blaming the Snapdragon 616 for this when switching to LineageOS didn't work. Didn't let anyone I know buy a phone with Snapdragon's 600 line of SoCs but it just doesn't make sense. My friend's Moto G4 has the Snapdragon 617 and it works fine. Even the Moto Z Play has the Snapdragon 625 and its one of good mid rangers on the market!
Need your opinions on what the problem could be.
Also if anyone here has the Huawei Honor 5X, how has your experience been with this absolute **** excuse for a phone?
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Can please try RR rom
shashank1320 said:
Have you tried slim rom, aokp or other. Can give a try
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Or maybe AOSiP. Using it now.
Go with Crdroid..you wont regret
Hello, Can sd card slow the honor 5x?
issamel said:
Hello, Can sd card slow the honor 5x?
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Probably, if it has a slow read/write speed and it's full. It won't slow it that much where it's noticable
issamel said:
Hello, Can sd card slow the honor 5x?
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Yes only if you are accessing files that are stored on SD card.
A lower class SD card will generally have slow write/read speeds.
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Talking about lag, why would you even be on stock EMUI ROM on honor 5x? EMUI is a heavy skin for a low end SD 616 CPU.
The only way to get rid of those lags is to install a custom ROM. Period.
issamel said:
Hello, Can sd card slow the honor 5x?
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How about removing the sd card and test for sometimes. If it makes any difference then you got the root cause. If it doesn't then something on your firmware causing which you can test further with installing custom rom, crdroid, aosp based, slim rom, aokp etc
I am having lag in snapdragon 617!
My phone is j5 prime 32gb. It just lags whenever it gets hot, even google maps lag. After gaming for a few minutes, there would always be big framerate drop. I know that this is a throttling issue, can anyone pls help to prevent the cpu from throttling?
bbtee said:
My phone is j5 prime 32gb. It just lags whenever it gets hot, even google maps lag. After gaming for a few minutes, there would always be big framerate drop. I know that this is a throttling issue, can anyone pls help to prevent the cpu from throttling?
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May be use of.kernel audiotor can help here and you can limit it
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May be use of.kernel audiotor can help here and you can limit it
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Is there any ways to solve it without root?
Hi,
I used to love my Kenzo 2 gb version, untill I found out that his 1,8 gb of ram are so so low. But, is that true?!
I mean 2 gb are the minimun requirement for MM or NG I think, but with miui, miui port, NG based rom (didn't try oreo, or lineage MM), custom kernel, anything the ram management is really really bad.
After only two days of usage, free ram became 200mb or even 100mb with no social media app (just telegram and instagram with no notification allowed) or anything. Doze, greenify, clear ram or not clear it, doesn't change the situation, used ram increase day by day untill the phone is laggy and unusable.
So you have to restart the phone at least every two day. It's crazy today.
On custom ng roms the situation is a bit better but on miui, damn, the ram is so full that sometimes I can't even open the keyboard or camera.
Every 2 gb phones has this issue? is an MM/NG problem? or is a kenzo problem? is there something I (or we) can do to menage ram more efficently (I don't want free ram, I want a ram used in the correct way).?
thank u
Very good question, i suggest you make manual tweaks to lmk (low memory killer), it has helped my rn3 2gb multitask better on oreo
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I have too faced that problem. It's mainly due to ROMs. Some ROMs have lag no matter which kernel you use or how much tweak it. I have literally tried each and every custom rom which are updated and found only some ROMs which have less noticable lag. Default miui rom, aex, RR by movzx, nos some builds and Oreo, and slim rom. On other rom I tried different kernel and when tweaked it to max but still lagged as hell. Even opening dialer app sometimes froze the system leave aside heavy gaming. This is really serious issue on 2gb because of which we are restricted to certain ROMs.
I too have a 2GB kenzo, but never had such problems...currently using NOS Oreo and it is fluid & fast. Same on miui.
Right now system occupies around 700MB + around 400MB apps, rest is available. Never had RAM problems myself...luckily.
Buy MI device unlock bootloader next day > Flash custom ROMs > RIP ****UI
That is the main reason why I've changed my Kenzo 2gb. I wasn't able to use miui at all with this phone, app killing and lagging was a daily basis. So I used the most Ram friendly rom with this phone, but still keeping more than 3 apps in the memory was a problem.
Idk, but maybe it's because of the x64 architecture (similar to pc, this architecture uses more ram). I had many phones with 32gb and x32 architecture and ram was never an issue.
So trust me, I've tried everything to improve the ram efficiency, but not much has changed. The only solution for me to change the phone.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
man use rambexpander app you can have 4 GB RAM and it does work very well
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[email protected] said:
Very good question, i suggest you make manual tweaks to lmk (low memory killer), it has helped my rn3 2gb multitask better on oreo
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I don't know how to turn the lmk aggressive on radon I know that I have to edit the radon.sh script but I don't know what I have to write there.
Oreo I think is pretty unstable for me know better wait some months
diyar95 said:
man use rambexpander app you can have 4 GB RAM and it does work very well
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I read that that app bricked some devices. Does it really help? It just create a swap partition I believe
RealPsygnosis said:
I don't know how to turn the lmk aggressive on radon I know that I have to edit the radon.sh script but I don't know what I have to write there.
Oreo I think is pretty unstable for me know better wait some months
I read that that app bricked some devices. Does it really help? It just create a swap partition I believe
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Oreo is unstable, but i can't go back
I use agni, so its easy af to change lmk settings
Anyway, you should set it to light, not aggressive bro
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Ram to sd for konzo
Does ram to sd like some app works really i havent rooted my phone still on stock miui reply soon... I also face ram management problem on my kenzo 2gb
i have around 400-500 mb of free ram, i'm using greenify often and set background process limit to 4.
i uninstalled every apps that not really used and yeah less lag noticed
Hello everyone!
I've been on smallEUI for a while, and I've decided that it's not worth it to keep anymore. SOT is inconsistent, there are small bugs here and there, and some major that begin to appear after a while.
I've been looking at Mokee and Ressurection Remix (sadly, author has stopped development of a buggy nougat version and moved to oreo)
I'm not looking for spectacular SOT that will blow me away. 4-5 hours is enough for me.
Stability is a huge must for me, i use my phone everyday and I need to be able to depend on it. EUI ROMs have aggressive RAM management (I have the 6gb RAM version and EUI treats it as if I only have 2gb, removing apps from RAM like my launcher). I need basic features like VoLTE and Bluetooth to work without fail.
I don't really care about safetynet, so I'm fine without that.
EDIT: I'm a fool, I said OmniROM instead of Slim. Sorry about that.
Thanks!
EDIT
Alright, I've actually installed Slim. Its superior to SmallEUI in almost every way.
Camera is almost as good as stock, no noticable difference.
Battery life is much more consistant (Expect 4 h 30m of SOT with mixed usage.)
No more crappy EUI RAM management (Its really bad, it treats 6GB of RAM like its 512MB of ram, killling any background processes, including your launcher, forcing frequent redraws)
Slim handles thermals MUCH BETTER than EUI. Way better!
Noticably faster UI, and smoother sustained performance under heavy load.
Nougat!
VoLTE works on T-Mobile US.
Fingerprint sensor works perfectly, and works faster in Slim than EUI, and more accuratly too!
Bug free so far.
And OTA updates!
This is hands down the most stable experience I've seen so far.
Better than Lineage, better than Mokee, and SmallEUI.
Go for this ROM, you won't regret it.
The_Rusty_Geek said:
Hello everyone!
I've been on smallEUI for a while, and I've decided that it's not worth it to keep anymore. SOT is inconsistent, there are small bugs here and there, and some major that begin to appear after a while.
I've been looking at Mokee and Ressurection Remix (sadly, author has stopped development of a buggy nougat version and moved to oreo)
I'm not looking for spectacular SOT that will blow me away. 4-5 hours is enough for me.
Stability is a huge must for me, i use my phone everyday and I need to be able to depend on it. EUI ROMs have aggressive RAM management (I have the 6gb RAM version and EUI treats it as if I only have 2gb, removing apps from RAM like my launcher). I need basic features like VoLTE and Bluetooth to work without fail.
I don't really care about safetynet, so I'm fine without that.
Thanks!
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Hi I'm currently using MOKEE and it's actually pretty stable. I haven't found any bugs at all but I'm not sure if VoLTE works and if you download it there will be almost everyday update but you don't have to download them because they don't change anything for our device
LameMonster82 said:
Hi I'm currently using MOKEE and it's actually pretty stable. I haven't found any bugs at all but I'm not sure if VoLTE works and if you download it there will be almost everyday update but you don't have to download them because they don't change anything for our device
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Thanks!
If I were to switch to Mokee, should I download the stable version?
The nightlies seem to be auto compiled and they look really unstable.
EDIT: Also, how is SOT?
The_Rusty_Geek said:
Thanks!
If I were to switch to Mokee, should I download the stable version?
The nightlies seem to be auto compiled and they look really unstable.
EDIT: Also, how is SOT?
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It's recommend to download the stable and the nighties are almost the same so don't worry downloading them.
Also I'm not sure what do you mean by SOT.
LameMonster82 said:
It's recommend to download the stable and the nighties are almost the same so don't worry downloading them.
Also I'm not sure what do you mean by SOT.
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You have never heard of the term?
I'm just kind of surprised. It means "screen on time".
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You have never heard of the term?
I'm just kind of surprised. It means "screen on time".
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I just haven't come across it but I don't have any problem SOT but I'm not a lot on my phone so I can't say a lot.
I’m in a similar position as you are. Using LOS 14. It’s been really stable. Best ROM i’ve used so far for the Le max 2. Small eui was a buggy mess when I used it. RR was good at first, but more bugs made me switch. Happily using LOS as a daily driver now.
mkerr said:
I’m in a similar position as you are. Using LOS 14. It’s been really stable. Best ROM i’ve used so far for the Le max 2. Small eui was a buggy mess when I used it. RR was good at first, but more bugs made me switch. Happily using LOS as a daily driver now.
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How is Lineage os in general?
Does gps work fine?
Fingerprint scanner can be fixed easily with a firmware update, so I don't mind that.
How is SOT?
Does camera quality match EUI?
Thanks!
Los if probably my favourite flavour android. RR has more options, though seems slower and more prone to issues (in my experience).
Camera is great. I've installed the Google hdr released camera app though, it's excellent.
Not too sure about sot sorry. Phone is usually around 20% when I finish the day. That's from 6am till say 10pm. I'd say average use for anyone that's on XDA.
This phone has never had good battery for me, except for small eui. But that was at the expense of an unusable rom with no SMS or push notifications working.
Finger print works perfectly.
Heyyo, for most stable? I'd say OmniROM 7 or LineageOS 14.1. They tend to not get the newest changes right away which is good for stability.
OmniROM is unique in the sense that it actually gets certified official builds signed by Google so they do come with SafetyNet Certification. It's the only custom ROM for the LeEco Le Max 2 that gets that.
Hopefully once GalacticSryder receives his Le Max 2 he can get his Mach LeEco kernel working for it and get official signed builds of Paranoid Android as that is the only other ROM that I know of that gets Google signed builds. Tbh I'm really stoked for this as I failed to port his Mach LeEco kernel haha.
Oh, if you plan on using MultiROM? OmniROM play store certification only works if you install it as the internal ROM and not secondary ROM as it mounts the system as writeable. You'd then need to do Magisk plus Universal SafetyNet fix module to spoof the Play Store.
The only downside to OmniROM is Andr68rus has moved onto Oreo development so it probably won't get Le Max 2 specific upgrades but thus far from my testing all Le Max 2 bugs have been squashed much like LineageOS 14.1.
If you want better screen on time with OmniROM or LOS? You can always root with Magisk and then install the AKT Profiles App and use something like Project X.A.N.A. balanced or battery.
If screen on time is your goal though? Slimroms I'd say currently has the best balance of screen on time and performance.
Anywho? Lots to choose from and there isn't really a wrong answer except for say the AOKP or other discontinued ROMs.
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Thanks for the detailed reply!
Sorry for the late reply.
So, I'm deciding between Lineage and Omnirom right now. Are there are basic features that differ between the two ROMs? Like included customization options or small tweaks that give the ROM it's unique personality?
It's amazing to see that a relatively not that known device has such a large and dedicated community to support it even when the company is going down under.
Thanks!
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Thanks for the detailed reply!
Sorry for the late reply.
So, I'm deciding between Lineage and Omnirom right now. Are there are basic features that differ between the two ROMs? Like included customization options or small tweaks that give the ROM it's unique personality?
It's amazing to see that a relatively not that known device has such a large and dedicated community to support it even when the company is going down under.
Thanks!
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LineageOS has weekly build updates so it does still receive the Google Monthly Security updates which is nice. It also has a lot more customization options than OmniROM
OmniROM as I mentioned is the only custom ROM for the Le Max 2 with official SafetyNet certification as a main feature. I've also noticed because of it that it's the only ROM I know of where fingerprint unlocking works with stuff like my RBC banking app.
OmniROM tends to not get as many flashy features as LineageOS but it has a few unique ones built into it such as OmniSwitch which is an alternative to the recent apps screen where it slides a small panel from the side of the screen and has the same functionality as recent apps but without the need of exiting your current app.
There's also their open source clock app as another example.
For Le Max 2 specifics? OmniROM has Dolby Atmos built into it for better sound quality and also the LeEco infrared app for using the IR blaster built into this phone so both work out of the box without the need of flashing Magisk Modules or anything like that.
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Thank you!
I will be installing Lineage OS and try it out!
Actually pulled a switcharoo at the last moment. I decided to go with Slim instead of Lineage because Lineage doesn't have VoLTE, and users report various problems with Lineage.
If anyone here is deciding on what to install, go for Slim.
Safetynet+Magisk passes safteynet, and everything is very fast.
UI and interface is really smooth, phone tempratures are much better than stock EUI, and SmallEUI
If gaming performance is your thing, expect a 20-30% increase in FPS than EUI based ROMS.
Battery life is a bit worse than EUI, but its consistent. In SmallEUI SOT would vary from almost 6 hours to as little as 1 hour and 30 minutes. Slim has a consistant 4 hour 30 min with mixed usage (Reddit, Gaming, and YouTube).
And best of all, no more annoying EUI RAM management! I have 6GB of RAM in my phone! Stop treating it like its 512MB and killing all background apps! It even killed Nova Launcher occasionally!
Slim is amazing. Simply amazing. I'm glad I made the switch now, and not later. I love it.
EDIT: I'm a fool, I said Omni instead of Slim. Sorry about that everyone.
Yep, tried them all and Omni's the best. Was worried that I'd miss functionality from EUI but everything actually works better. There's no reason at all to stick with stock roms. Do you know does Vulkan work with Omni?
so i know that this phone is 4 years old. but in 2016/2017 it had a high end cpu/4gb ram(even today it has a higher antutu scores than lots of newers models). yet it feels so laggy to work on after some use, mine still has stock android. but i feel like when swaping between apps, or using them , it just feels crappy. also the phonebook behave weird, can't add phone numbers cause i get this thing ''phonebook stoped working'' , and almost all my contacts dissapeared like i deleted them. i'm not the type of person that changes phones every year,i had mine 3 years now. but i think i'm just gonna give up on this phone, and get something that gets software updates
Things get corrupted after a while, apps you've installed running in background hogging resourses, etc. Do a factory reset, or better still, flash a recent Anroid 9 or 10 rom. This phone still flies on the right rom.
Heyyo, yeah depending on your build of EUI ROM? It'll suck. Anything prior to 19s is definitely garbage. X821 19s was pretty good and same with x829 20s or x820 30s (albeit with ads). The best way to experience EUI ROM is CrisBalGreece modified versions.
Otherwise? I highly recommend custom ROMs. We have a lot of great Android 9 ROMs and Android 10 is pretty decent albeit with more bugs.
bluehillday said:
so i know that this phone is 4 years old. but in 2016/2017 it had a high end cpu/4gb ram(even today it has a higher antutu scores than lots of newers models). yet it feels so laggy to work on after some use, mine still has stock android. but i feel like when swaping between apps, or using them , it just feels crappy. also the phonebook behave weird, can't add phone numbers cause i get this thing ''phonebook stoped working'' , and almost all my contacts dissapeared like i deleted them. i'm not the type of person that changes phones every year,i had mine 3 years now. but i think i'm just gonna give up on this phone, and get something that gets software updates
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It simply because the chipset it is using is a "bad" one..... You can see this with every Snapdragon 820 and 821 phones(Zuk Z2, Google Pixel 1(OG) etc) ... They heat up and throttle down easily = lag... on paper the 82x should be able to outperform a SD625 any day but not so in real life.... with custom ROM they are much more manageable... I think you should definitely be fine with custom ROM unless you are planning on gaming on it...
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It simply because the chipset it is using is a "bad" one..... You can see this with every Snapdragon 820 and 821 phones(Zuk Z2, Google Pixel 1(OG) etc) ... They heat up and throttle down easily = lag... on paper the 82x should be able to outperform a SD625 any day but not so in real life.... with custom ROM they are much more manageable... I think you should definitely be fine with custom ROM unless you are planning on gaming on it...
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so was the snapdragon 820 bad on all phones models not only the cheap chinese ones like i thought,only if i knew this when i bought it... to be honest, i took my abandoned xperia z3 compact from the drawer..and it moved more smoothly. indeed, i think this phone has some overheating issues.what rom do you recommend,should i stick to EUI, not a fan really to the stock eui i got,full of bugs. i have just rooted my phone now and i'm ready to instal other ROM . but there are so many options. looking at android 9 or 10 but so many variants available. i just want it to run smoothly. also , do i have to update the firmware version via twrp? i have the stock one. anyway i think i have the indian version, and the linegeOS android 10 version i wanted to install seems like it doesn't support this mode(only CN on the x820) looking at aosp 9.0 now
popoyaya said:
Things get corrupted after a while, apps you've installed running in background hogging resourses, etc. Do a factory reset, or better still, flash a recent Anroid 9 or 10 rom. This phone still flies on the right rom.
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what rom variant do you recommend? also are android 10 version stable enough or should i flash older android 9?
bluehillday said:
so was the snapdragon 820 bad on all phones models not only the cheap chinese ones like i thought,only if i knew this when i bought it... to be honest, i took my abandoned xperia z3 compact from the drawer..and it moved more smoothly. indeed, i think this phone has some overheating issues.what rom do you recommend,should i stick to EUI, not a fan really to the stock eui i got,full of bugs. i have just rooted my phone now and i'm ready to instal other ROM . but there are so many options. looking at android 9 or 10 but so many variants available. i just want it to run smoothly. also , do i have to update the firmware version via twrp? i have the stock one. anyway i think i have the indian version, and the linegeOS android 10 version i wanted to install seems like it doesn't support this mode(only CN on the x820) looking at aosp 9.0 now
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The Xperia Z3 Compact are Snapdragon 801.... Those were great... on paper SD820 or 821 should be miles ahead in performance compared to 801 or 800... but IRL on most of the phones they usually suck... (I did saw someone swear that his Oneplus 3 ran great after getting angry because I said SD820 821 are bad chipsets... then again Oneplus 3/3T probably have a much bigger ROM community both dev and user wise)
unfortunately I also just recently took my Le Max 2 from the drawer and started fiddling with these new android 9/10 roms, I can't give much advice... I'm currently on Android 9 Lineage it's pretty stable.
Generally, you'd want custom ROM so you can remove the bloatware, install a custom kernel so you can use a kernel that better manage the chipset(battery or usagewise) and a config that might suit your usage...CMIIW
funtikar said:
The Xperia Z3 Compact are Snapdragon 801.... Those were great... on paper SD820 or 821 should be miles ahead in performance compared to 801 or 800... but IRL on most of the phones they usually suck... (I did saw someone swear that his Oneplus 3 ran great after getting angry because I said SD820 821 are bad chipsets... then again Oneplus 3/3T probably have a much bigger ROM community both dev and user wise)
unfortunately I also just recently took my Le Max 2 from the drawer and started fiddling with these new android 9/10 roms, I can't give much advice... I'm currently on Android 9 Lineage it's pretty stable.
Generally, you'd want custom ROM so you can remove the bloatware, install a custom kernel so you can use a kernel that better manage the chipset(battery or usagewise) and a config that might suit your usage...CMIIW
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so today i have instaled the first time a custom ROM,after struggling with twrp for 2hours . i have instaled AospExtended ROM V6.0 [X2] (adroid PIE) . it move more smoothly for sure,but not sure it moves this way beucase it's just a fresh rom..will way some weeks to see if it keeps up.
and about instaling a custom kerne . isn't that coming instaled with the ROM?
I have my device for nearly two years, and I am using eui 6.0.30s CBG cleaned edition since last year... I never face any kind of lag or bug except the lag caused by power save mod, which automatically enables itself when the battery goes down under %5. I think full wipe+reinstall firmware would be a great solution for you.
Heyyo, I definitely don't agree that 820/821 is bad lol... That's ridiculous. It's true that back in 2016 no one cared about proper cooling for the SoC though. I've seen people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling.
On any pie or Q ROM though, we do have tuned thermal-engine.conf by Shiva which helps quite a bit and also allows for better sustained performance too which also performs a lot better than EUI ROM which focuses more on lower temperatures than balancing thermals and performance.
Anywho, yeah, if you're upset with performance of EUI ROM? I'd definitely recommend a custom ROM. Anything on pie that's actively maintained is a good idea.
Android 10 ROMs still sometimes have performance stutters for now... So hopefully later on it'll work better, so that's why I recommend for now sticking with pie.
ThE_MarD said:
Heyyo, I definitely don't agree that 820/821 is bad lol... That's ridiculous. It's true that back in 2016 no one cared about proper cooling for the SoC though. I've seen people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling.
On any pie or Q ROM though, we do have tuned thermal-engine.conf by Shiva which helps quite a bit and also allows for better sustained performance too which also performs a lot better than EUI ROM which focuses more on lower temperatures than balancing thermals and performance.
Anywho, yeah, if you're upset with performance of EUI ROM? I'd definitely recommend a custom ROM. Anything on pie that's actively maintained is a good idea.
Android 10 ROMs still sometimes have performance stutters for now... So hopefully later on it'll work better, so that's why I recommend for now sticking with pie.
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dude.. people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling. .. I never had to do that on SD800/801 phones lol...
since you are very determined that its not a bad phone , I'm taking out my Le Max 2 a second time .... hehe... I occasionally play Mobile Legends.. any other tips you can give?
Nexus 5 was SD800 and was known for overheating issues
https://www.technobezz.com/fix-overheating-problem-nexus-5/
Like I said, the main thing would be to switch to a custom ROM that has Android Pie and is decently updated. Most of those pie custom ROMs will have pretty decent thermals while still delivering decent performance.